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| sali_ko_bhena |
Posted
on 08-Apr-04 07:17 PM
It boils my blood when i hear nicompoops like you who have safely tucked themselves in america or europe - many are even scared to venture to Kathmandu during the summer -advocating who should rule Nepal and how they should rule the country!! Sad.... Listen guys, you pay taxes to George Bush, and not to the Nepalese govenment thus you have no right to criticize the Nepalese King or the PM. American govt. ko khutta dhokera tax tirchau, gali chai nepali sarkarlai! Since your contribution to Nepalese Govt is zero, you have no right to criticize it. Nepalko chora/chori and nepali blood don't count...make contributions then talk....
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| Dominatrix |
Posted
on 08-Apr-04 07:34 PM
Oh my...what a bitter person...
This is a 'discussion forum' 'sali_ko_bhena.' our views dont make a difference anywhos.
Human Rights for our freedom of speech, etc.
Nepal will always be our motherland we all love regardless of where we are in the world.
Love to write more but i got to dash!
Miss Domi
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| jay_sambho |
Posted
on 09-Apr-04 02:37 AM
I support saali ko bhena. Those people living in US or other countries should not try to teach us what we poor nepali janata should be doing. They left Nepal because they saw "no scope" in their own motherland or they saw "more scope" in foreign soils.
Opinions of opportunists like them will never do good to anyone because after all they are opportunists. I dont want to hurt their egos, forgive me for it. But facts are facts. So no more "kaite opinions" about Nepal when you are not living in Nepal.
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| gsubedi |
Posted
on 09-Apr-04 03:43 AM
Do not be upset for others' opinions about Nepal.I believe this site is visited mostly by Prabasi Nepali and how can you tell them not to express their opinions. I recommend that if any opinion makes you feel uncomfortable, then do not read that at all.
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| dyamn |
Posted
on 09-Apr-04 08:47 AM
Friends, I would like to make some corrections. I don't think just cuz you're living in the foreign land you will become less Nepali. I have a house back in Nepal, and Nepali govt don't give me tax cut for not living in that house , just to give you an instance that we pay tax too. More over , we pay airport tax, we pay custome and we pay passport renewal to the Nepal Embassy which most Nepali living in Nepal do not. Not only that but we bring money to Nepal. when you said people living in foreign land, it includes mamas in HK, our brothers working in dubai, our sisters/brothers working in restaurants in USA or UK and all the hard working Nepali working in India too, and we all bring money to Nepal. how often do you hear that someone is taking money from Nepal to live in USA?, not very often i suppose, if you're a rational and honest person.
Friends, I don't know why you guys are mad at US living in the foreign land. I don't just see a point for you to get mad on us for having concern about our home country. Most of US have friends and families back home, and lots of people like me are intending to return and we are concerned about t safety and prospirity. Why is it a crime in your view for us to be concerned about our mother land?
no hard feeling, take care
your sathi,
dyamn bahadur..
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| mildseven |
Posted
on 09-Apr-04 09:34 AM
I was going to say something but I suppose dyamn said it all. Instead of
So no more "kaite opinions" about Nepal when you are not living in Nepal
I would say more opinions about nepal from people living outside since they have the chance to see it from the outside and they have seen democracy work (for the most part). I for one enjoy reading their opinions. I may not agree to all but i enjoy reading most of them.
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| jay_sambho |
Posted
on 09-Apr-04 10:31 AM
Dear Dyamm bahadur & co
We are not mad about you living in US/ We do not have anything to say about it. I believe everyone is free choose where to stay. You are familiar to problems of your locality. How can someone living in US have a better understanding of Nepal than one living in Nepal?
Coming back to tax, people living in nepal seldom fly (I am talking about avrage Nepali), so how can you expect you to pay airport tax? If they ever flew, they would pay airport tax. Renewal of passport and customs are also same for nepalis living in Nepal if they ever use them.
As for mamas in HK and Kanchhas in Middle Easts, they are true NRNs, keeping the country afloat in current economical depression. Moreover, I HAVE NEVER HEARD ANY mamas or kanchhas publicizing their opinions.
Those Mamas and kanchhas are not as literate as those in US, and they seldom have any inlfuence in policy making. You cannot compare yourselves with those folks in HK and Middle East or the bahadurs in Delhi. Much like comparing horses to jackals , and drawing an anology that both are 4-footed animals. Does you make as much nepali as those mamas and/or kanchhas? Nepal bigareko padheko manchhe le.
We can always agree to disagree.
Pashupatinath le tapai ko rakshaya garun
Jay sambho
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| Kiddo |
Posted
on 09-Apr-04 10:42 AM
Sali_ko_bhena Another Nepali who stayed in long line in PaniPokhari only to be rejected 2 times.
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 09-Apr-04 10:48 AM
"Opinions of opportunists like them will never do good to anyone because after all they are opportunists." jay Sambho
I wonder, if you've ever wondered whatever happened to the cave-dwelling, skin wearing, nomadic huntes/gatherers. The nature of nature itself is to look for opportunities of survival adn betterment. Survival- the word is open to interpretation, Sir.
Really, now we should not be allowed to express our opinions about our beloved motherland, hajur??? Just a question: If you don't live in the same house of your mother, does it make you less of her son?
Dyamn ji, well said!
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 09-Apr-04 10:50 AM
hunters*, and*
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| VincentBodega |
Posted
on 09-Apr-04 11:12 AM
Just a question: If you don't live in the same house of your mother, does it make you less of her son?
YES... Especially if you leave that mother of yours. No one forced us to leave. We left as we felt that was in the best interest for us. We didnt think about our mothers and our duty towards her when we left. If we had then we wouldnt have left an old and an ailing mother.
I think sali ko bhena brings out an important point here. There are no rights without obligations. We failed in our obligations and for that matter we have less of a right to preach in the present condition the country is in. If we consider ourselves children we should ashamed that we are in small ways responsible for this.
For Mr. Dyamn bahadur all the taxes you mentioned even a foreigner pays all/ most of those taxes. so tell me whats the difference between you and a foreigner?
Sali ko bhena got a point here ladies and gentlemen.
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| dyamn |
Posted
on 09-Apr-04 11:31 AM
Jya samboo broda and Co
Thank you for your time and energy spent on effort to enlightning me . However, your message did not convey clearly what you are actually trying to say:
Samboo broda, are you saying it's bad or it's not bad to have an opinion while living in the USA? If you're saying it's not bad to have opinion about Nepal then why did say write these lines in the first place:
support saali ko bhena. Those people living in US or other countries should not try to teach us what we poor nepali janata should be doing. They left Nepal because they saw "no scope" in their own motherland or they saw "more scope" in foreign soils.
Also broda, why do you think we're not true NRIs and mamas and middle east Nepali work force are? is it in your view to be a crime to be educated and have an opinion?? I wish, mamas and middle east working crew Nepali brothers would come in here and write thier opinions too, but they don't, .. so does that make the US/UK living Nepali broders to be blamed?
You're right , ppl in Nepal (avg) seldom fly. So , I'm not expecting them to pay airport tax, on the other hand People who fly frequently pay airport tax. So isn't that a contribution for the brothers living in Nepal by the brother leaving Nepal?
"How can someone living in US have a better understanding of Nepal than one living in Nepal?"
>>> Brothers/sisters living in the US can have a better understanding from better education, better understanding of the Democratic system, and love and appreciation of his /her homeland that you could tell if you were living outside of Nepal.
Seriously bro, when i was in Nepal i've had lots of friends who did not give a dyamn about Nepali politics, Nepali economy and anything at all besides bitching about it in some chya pasal. Besides, a chora can live in a house and be a ''lampu' and a chora and go overseas and gain education. A rational mom would love both her sons but would be more proud on a son who went overseas to gather knowledge, ability , skills to help her mom.
So brother, please be sure what you are trying to say first of al,l and before jumping on all the USa living brothers/sisters to be useless Nepali children and telling us not to have opinion/concern about our mother land, you better think thousand times.
may pashupati nath be with you and me , both living in Nepal and living off the Nepal
hajur ko bhakkta,
Dyamn bahadru:)
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| Go_Lakerssssssssssss |
Posted
on 09-Apr-04 11:31 AM
i support sali ko bhena. i am in us pay tax to us goverment and i have no right to criticize about nepal.
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| dyamn |
Posted
on 09-Apr-04 11:33 AM
Mr. Dyamn bahadur all the taxes you mentioned even a foreigner pays all/ most of those taxes. so tell me whats the difference between you and a foreigner?
a foreigner don't pay tax for his/her house in Nepal when he/she's living overseas.. read it first... goddd dyammmmm
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 09-Apr-04 12:12 PM
Bodega ji... If such is the cross that you bear of a "lesser" son, it is indeed unfortunate. The yokes of guilt when tied to the physical presence, translate into "kartabhya" and "responsibility", love becomes conditional.
Could it be possible that oftentimes we may be able to contribute more to the needs of the family through their toils in a foreign land? I have known many who have paid for their brothers' and sisters' education, marriage, parents' health care...etc. by living and working abroad. Call it sacrifice or survival or even desh-drohy....again, survival and sacrifice are words open to interpretation.
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| confused |
Posted
on 09-Apr-04 12:24 PM
dyaam bro totally agree with you..
so called or self called Intellectual NEpalese think that it is wrong to say your opinions or have your opinions for your mother country living aborad. I just read a story, which was suppose to be a humorous story which satired ANA and Foreing Nepalese because they were trying to help Nepal..hOina tell me..how many nepalese lliving in NEpal chaii have actually tried to help NEpal?? WHy is it wrong to form a society which disscusses issue of current Nepal in a foreign land?? why cant we understand NOT Everyone is a MAHATMA ..Not everyone would like to give up their oppurtunites and live in developing country where there is no hope for future....this may sound harsh but thats the reality and thats a real human nature....Giving opinions and just trying to build a good society by living in a foreing land iis not wrong att all..understand that people....IF someone travelled back to nepal because he had more love for his mother country than other people ..does that mean everyone should be like him?? would have world been better place if there were 10000 of MAHATMA GANDHIS ?? SALI_KO_BHENA bro if we have lived in society like that than there would be no need of democracy Communism would be a best choice..(if you know what i mean)
Selfishness is something that every human possess and not everyone can break the barrier of Selfishness and travel back to uncertainity..people who have established themselves here have also eaten dirt and climbed up the stairs of difficulties to get there...So they travelled the difficuties and made it and are now happy ..whats wrong with them not wanting to going back and living in a country where they are happy.. The first and foremost right that HUman gets to have after being born i beilive is able to be FREE and LIVE WITH HAPPNIESS......if he is happy here and wants to do something for his mother land why are you trying to stop him?? whats wrong if ANA tries to Propose a systematic goverment in NEpaL?? maybe it wont work FOR SURE, but i dont see anything to critiicize on, maybe you could critize on the proposal itself, but a person who has spend his time trying to figure out something for better future why should you critizie on him??
ANYWAY WHAT HAVE THE NEPALESE LIVING IN NEPAL DONE FOR THEIR COUNTRY?? CREATE TERRORISM, NEPAL BANDHS AND THOSE PEOPEL WHO HAVE TRAVELLED BACK, JUST CLAIMING TO BE BACK THEIR HAVENT DONE ANYTHING BUT HAVE BEEN LIVING A LAVISH LIFESTYLESS....ITS NOT WRONG TO GIVE OUR OPINIONS FROM A FOREIGN CONTRY TO OUR MOTHER LAND...YES I DO PAY TAX TO GEROGE BUSH BUT I DO ALSO HAVE LOVE FOR MY MOTHER LAND WHERE I WAS BORN...
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| kILLERbUZz |
Posted
on 09-Apr-04 12:43 PM
$HITHEADS !!!
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| DotNet |
Posted
on 09-Apr-04 12:49 PM
dyamn, confused & others
let see your contributions for nepal. nothing gonna happen if you sit your ugly ass their in US and make comments about motherland everyday." yo pani tyo pani bhayena. junai jogi aye pani kanai chirye ko" let see if you really love your mother land. nothing gonna happen if you just sit your ass their get well educated what is used if you are using for foreign land & make . let see some contributions for your motherland since you were born here. if you gonna stay in US criticize about the Nepalese King or the PM. then u have NO RIGHT TO DO THAT.
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| dyamn |
Posted
on 09-Apr-04 12:57 PM
hyaaa phokkataya tauko dukhayee k , bekarrrr maaaaa
timi lay j bhanaypani ma khurukaa plane chadayra aaunay hoina, timi layee mailay j bhanay pani timi yedi DV paryo ya ramrro Job or scholorship payo bhanay na aaunay hoina bholee nai plane chandayra... bhanay pachi bekar ko khokkyeee - taukooo dukhayee na garumm la brooo....
ok you have fun, you criticize Nepal and KIng and Maoists, and congress and communist and india and whatever you do in that chhya pasal.. i am busy now..
bye,
dyamn
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| DotNet |
Posted
on 09-Apr-04 01:09 PM
see tai ta JHUR ni nepali ko bani. when some thing need to be done for homeland then
"phokkataya tauko dukhayee na cha ra bekarrrr maaaaa" that's not rite.
ani bidesh ma basera criticize garney yo bhayena tyo bhayena tyo pani bhayena yo pani bhayena bhanera.
let see some contributions for your motherland bhanda kheri >>
" taukooo dukhayee na garumm la brooo....
you criticize Nepal and KIng and Maoists, and congress and communist and india and whatever you do in that chhya pasal"
let see some contributions for your motherland since you were born here. if you gonna stay in US criticize about the Nepalese King or the PM. then u have NO RIGHT TO DO THAT.
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| dyamn |
Posted
on 09-Apr-04 01:14 PM
ok.. i won't criticize anymore.. i learned a big lesson in my life. you enlightned me.. you must be the recarnation of gautam buddha...
btw, i said tauko dukhayee ko argue with you- not dukhing tauko to observe/analyze Nepal's situation..
ja timi lay jityou - mailya haray.. aba restaurnt ma gayaraaa tannaaa beer khau ani tannaa criticize gara hai..
happy friday
:)
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| confused |
Posted
on 09-Apr-04 01:19 PM
DONET b4 you tell me that LET ME SEE WHAT HAVE YOU DONE>>yes i am in USA and i will sit my UGLY ASS down in chair and criticize about NEPAL" PM coz i have the right to do so..i still have a NEPALI CItizenshipp..and i am a NEPALI...and i do care about my country...but i also love myself...and i will do anything possible that can i do from here to improve the situation of Nepal...AND STILL I THINK I AM BETTER THAN SOME NEPALI WHO STAY IN NEPAL AND CREATE BANDHS AND SIMPLY DO NOTHING BUT COMPLAIN..ok i am here why dont you all at nepal do something then??? yess i will continue to criticize..coz i am a NEPALI still...
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| confused |
Posted
on 09-Apr-04 01:24 PM
see tai ta JHUR ni nepali ko bani. when some thing need to be done for homeland then
"phokkataya tauko dukhayee na cha ra bekarrrr maaaaa" that's not rite
why isnt it rite?? arent you born free, dont you have the degree to fulfill your happiness..bro if you are a Dharmatma it doesnt mean we all have to be one....yes it sounds cruell but all of us here do the same thing...donet if you are from nepal then why havent you done anything to Nepal because you are living there and if you are from some foreign land, why did you even travel there if you have so much to criticize about Nepalese..
this is what exactly i am talking about...people like you who consider themselves i dont know what..yourself dont do nothing, and if other tries to take a small step to better up the situation you complain..people like you all just suck..
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| dyamn |
Posted
on 09-Apr-04 01:29 PM
contribute my azzz.. prolly justt contribute to his safety tank.... if thas what he's talking about then have phun....
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| EKAR |
Posted
on 09-Apr-04 02:43 PM
WELL! IF IT BOILS YOUR BLOOD THAT WE NEPALI LIVING ABROAD TALK ABOUT NEPAL AND GIVE OUR OPINION THEN THAT IT YOUR PROBLEM. DON'T GIVE SHIT TO THOSE LIVING ABROAD JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE THERE IN NEPAL AND HAVE DONE NOTHING AND JUST PARTICIPATE IN BHANDAS AND BE CHAMCHAS OF THOSE CORRUPTED POLITICIANS, WHO SHOULD BE IN RETIREMENT HOME INSTEAD ARE TRYING TO LEAD OUR COUNTRY.
AND YOUR COMMENT ABOUT TAX BRO..YES WE DO PAY TAX TO US GOVERNMENT IN RETURN WE WORK AND MAKE MONEY AND THAT TOO IN $$$$. WHEREAS IN NEPAL YOU PAY TAX AND GUESS WHAT YOUR MONEY IS ALL GONE TO BUY SOME LUXURY HOMES OR CAR TO SOME CORRUPTED GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE JUST JUST FLIES AWAY WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING TO IMPROVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF NEPAL. aND DON'T FORGET ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO WOULD DIE WITH HUNGER OR BE HOMELESS IF THERE SIGNIFICANT OTHER OR SON/DAUGHTER HAD NOT GONE ABROAD AND EARN MONEY TO SEND HOME AND LET THEIR LIVE PROSPEROUSLY. DO YOU THINK ALL THOSE MONEY CAME FROM YOUR PAID TAX OR DO U THINK THE GOVERNMENT PAID THEM TAX. WHAT ABOUT THOSE BRICK HOUSES ALL OVER THE COUNRTY AND THOSE LUXURY STUFF THEY HAVE IN THEIR HOME CAME FROM YOU-DID YOU GAVE IT TO THEM. aLMOST 90% NEPALI GOES ABROAD JUST TO SEND MONEY TO NEPAL...AND GO AND ASK THE ECOMOMIST OF NEPAL HOW THOSE MONEY ARE HELPING NEPAL.
JUST BECAUSE U STAY HOME AND YOUR PARENTS PAY YOU FOR HOUSING, FOOD AND CLOTHES DOESNOT ONLY GIVE YOU RIGHTS TO TALK ABOUT NEPAL. WE DO CONTRIBUTE A LOT ONE WAY OR OTHER AND WE DO HAVE MORE RIGHTS THEN YOU TO TALK ABOUT OUR MOTHERLAND. IF YOU GOT REJECTED IN VISA OR CAN'T GO ABROAD THEN DON'T BLAME US....JUST BE THEIR SWEAR TO ALL NEPALIS LIVING ABROAD AND GO FOLLOW SOME NETAS...
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| babaal |
Posted
on 09-Apr-04 02:57 PM
stop shouting ! People in Nepal too can hear normally.
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| meera |
Posted
on 09-Apr-04 07:35 PM
Maya gare ni, gali gare ni afnai Nepal ama lai gali garya ta ho ni, timro kya tauko dukhyo ?
I remember this talk between granpa and one American counsellor which was something like, "You know,Mr. Thapa, if tomorrow if I say that I will give a visa to the people in Nepal, the one who criticize people going abroad, will be the very first one to wait on the line."
Does the above line make any sense ???
Anyway, what do you think of political refugee criticing Nepal, don't you think they do that because the government is unable to provide protection and they are forced to run away from the country?
Any comments will be appreciated.
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| jay_sambho |
Posted
on 10-Apr-04 12:26 AM
I remember this talk between granpa and one American counsellor which was something like, "You know,Mr. Thapa, if tomorrow if I say that I will give a visa to the people in Nepal, the one who criticize people going abroad, will be the very first one to wait on the line."
So you believe in American counsellor word's. Maybe there are a few who would do what American Counsellor told. Isnt it a hasty generalization. Do you think people are criticizing out of jealousy?
"Nepal ama lai gaali garya ta ho"
Cursing ones mother is no sin at all. Do you mean it?
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| VincentBodega |
Posted
on 10-Apr-04 05:16 AM
Sitaraji,
I think we are confusing the "mom" we are referrring to. I was talking about Nepal. Even if its the biological mom, what if she had deserted her child to earn some green and supported her child that way. How would the child feel? Why cant the mom feel the same way? The words like "kartabya" and "responsibility" is like pregnancy (as a friend of mine used to say). Either you are, or not you are not. Being responsible part failed when we decided to leave the mother behind alone.
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