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| Biruwa | Posted
on 18-Apr-04 11:05 AM
Gorkhas are considered today as a martial race the world over. There has even been talk about encorporating the gorkha army in the UN peacekeeping force. They are considered to have a glorious history in the various war fronts in which they found valiantly - for the British. However, before the british influence the race of Gorkhas were really peaceful. They did not fall under the so-called 'martial race'.There is no record of them having been as cruel to their enemies, or in other words 'as war-like' in the pre-british era. It is a matter of pride to be associated with some achievements and the British exploited this need of the Nepali dream. And then there have been myths floated for certain ends. Certainly the most pervasive myth of Gurkha ferocity fans from their famed wielding of the kukri, or the curved Himalayan knife. Legend has it that once a Gurkha unsheathes his kukri, he must draw blood with it. When a Gurkha unsheathes his weapon in a noncombative situation, he must then nick himself to satisfy the "blood thirst" of the blade or slit the throats of the enemy. But whose enemy? What wrong did this 'enemy' do to the Nepali 'Gurkha' soldier? Did this enemy come looking to occupy our land? Did this enemy try to recruit us to fight his wars? The term 'martial race' has come knocking home. Have we become a 'martial race' now? |
| viswas | Posted
on 19-Apr-04 09:49 AM
Biruwa Ji, While I do condemn the tendency of the media to stereotype the Gurkhas as inhumane mercenaries, I still think that there is little, if any room for hue and cry when the Gurkhas are called a martial race. That they are, has been demonstrated throughout history. However, I would like to veer off a tangent here and draw your attention to a slightly different issue today: How did the British Gurkhas come to be comprised of a select group of jan jatis? It is quite safe to say that the Gurkha army (British Gurkhas to be more precise) solely comprises of a select group of janjatis: the Gurungs, Rais, Magars, and Chettris (to a certain extent). How did this come to be? Here is my take on this: It is well known how with the migration of the Hindus, the process of Hinduisation and Sanskritisation swept across the foothills and hinterlands of the then small states ( current Nepal); this process of Hinduisation fared largely against the Jan-Jatis as an alien language, customs and culture were imposed by the dominant population. It is no wonder that soon the jan jatis (who were now a minority) were placed at a grave disadvantage resulting from Hinduisation and sanskritization. At any rate, largely alienated from the tentacles of education, (Sanskrit) hence government (Hindu affiliated), politics (courtesy of the imposing of Hinduisation and sanskritization) left them ill equipped, or with very less tools to wield in order to earn a living. Therefore, when they were presented with a chance to join the army of the British, these groups of Janjatis saw this as an opportunity to (no wonder) make money and thereby enrich or up heave the status of their living. Furthermore, a career in the army would not only yield some wealth but also give them a coarse knowledge of the world beyond their own that would help them catch up with the world. But, it is important to note here that it was through forces of need and necessity that they joined the army. They did not have a better choice. Well, the other alternative would have been to toil in the fields and terraces with hardly enough yields to sustain their families. The Gurkhas were first recruited by the British during 1815. Initially the Gurkhas might have comprised of men from diverse caste and subcaste groups, but in due course of time the British learned that this select ilk of people without education and submissive-non assertive character (their history, culture has shaped them into this frame of character) could well be used to fulfill their purpose, namely colonization. Hence, started the trend of recruiting men from these select group of Nepalese and this tradition still exists today. > Despite the opportunity to get education and enter politics and government why do the children of the janjatis get recruited in the British Army? Because, it is a lucrative offer. But more so because it has become more of a tradition. >What effect does it have on the Janjatis? Drains away a good chunk of youth who could have struggled but with enough failures made it in the governing system of Nepal (maybe??!!). They cannot be complaining that they don’t have enough representation in the academic, economic or political fronts.Also when the Gurkhas retire, they are left with null skill to further invest their money or further make themselves useful in the job market. >So is the trend of joining the army beneficial in the empowerment of the janjatis? Quite clearly a NO! >What ought to be done? The British Gurkhas should be abolished . Viswas. |
| Biruwa | Posted
on 19-Apr-04 11:31 AM
Viswas ji, I enjoyed reading your informative and speculative discourse. Indeed the tradition of violence and martial culture started when the British started recruiting the select Nepali jana jatis who had at that time been bargained away by the ruling ranas? The Nepali Gurkhas are retired early just like the special troops in developed courtries. These people who are trained in warfare and are psyched up to kill humans are ill-equiped to deal with daily hum-drum of civil life. Thus most of them end up as security guards of rich foreigners (as we hear from time to time from new sources). Others end up as merceneries. |
| Dr. Strangelove | Posted
on 19-Apr-04 12:56 PM
Excellent commentary andd analysis, Viswas. I think you missed out the Limbus, who have a significant presence within the Gurkhas. And yes, Rais and Limbus aren't one and the same! Since the Gurkha recruitment has dropped drastically since repatriation of Hong Kong, its impact on the janjati youth has been curtailed somewhat. I don't agree that once they retire and return home they have no skills to offer. In today's army you are not only trained to shoot and kill but you are also taught a whole slew of other skills which can be utilized quite nicely after coming home with a nice pension. |
| thugged out | Posted
on 19-Apr-04 02:23 PM
Gurkhas couldn't even open a coke bottle, much less open a can of whoopa$$. They're worthless and weak. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 19-Apr-04 07:12 PM
Yo ! all da good Jati biraders (them who call I and I Janjatis) You biraders always accuse I and I. Them Jati biraders who is them skilled, educasion and diplomatic never look at them fact. When them white men Invaded da country all them Jati biraders with their knowledge and them educasion or diplomatic did Jack. Where was them Jati biraders in Nalapani? Them Jati biraders was probably shittin in them suruwal in them modas arms. Them white peopal realized that them most useful peopal from da country was I and I. Who them live and die with honor. Someone say that them biraders was go away drains youth. Yeah youre right! Them if them have not go away to get them money your fada would have made money by writing bestsellers like Ramayan. Nepal never no produce no shit. Above all them good Jaati biraders never no produce shit. Them only deceieve and cheat and make money. Them still doing that. Who them toils da land? who them weaves da carpet? Like him Tenzing Sherpa was one of this Jaati biraders? If him was not there Nepal would have even littler money. Go back and look at da facts birader Jaatis! What was them Nepal before 1970 and where them money that your fada corrupsion come from? Like your biraders Produced lots of things and produced money. Come on bring on them your Jaati Biraders. I is fine with Janajatis. I is I and I is never no cheat. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 19-Apr-04 08:03 PM
Now let I tell you what them nice Jaati biraders do for da country! Them nice nice Jaati biraders with them educasion and knowlej and diplomacy did many many nice nice things to da country and still doing it. Them nice biraders with great knowleje of mathamatical, diplomacy and intelligent divided da country so nicely that it can not be put back together. Them biraders divided da countrys wealth for developement so nicely among themselves that them leave nothing for da kingdoms developement. Them divided everything so nicely. Them peopal call I and I worthless and weak because I is not have them courage to take up all them corrupsion money. Them call I worthless because I is could not sell da kingdom to da Indians. Them Jaati biraders is so nice that them already sold da country. As we is all knowing that them Jaati biraders is always very worthwhile. Them been tilling da soil, weaving da carpet, doing da trade, climbing da mountains, making da music, painting da art, making da statues, and everything On da other hand I and my Janajati biraders never do nothing of these . We is always worthless peopal playing politics, taking big big bribes, being them chamcha to da Vishnu Avataar. Yes we is worthless peopal. |
| karmapa | Posted
on 19-Apr-04 09:42 PM
I totally disagree with Viswas and those who disparage the Gurkhas. I notice a tinge of envy!!! May be the khukuri is stronger than the word! The Gurkhas of today are not like those of yesterday, just fighting with the khukuri. That is nonsense. The nature of warfare has changed enormously and the kind of training the British Gurkhas receive today reflects this. GPS, remote sensing, GIS, and state of the art technologies that are even more state of the art than those found in your garden variety colleges and universities. Warfare is no more about just wielding weapons but also mastering navigation skills, doing intelligence work, learning strategy, doing teamwork with increasingly multinational colleagues, and austere discipline, which are all veritable marketable skills. When they retire, many British Gurkhas have been able to parlay their lifelone experience for jobs in casinos in Macao, increasingly in cruisers, body guards for some of the richest people in East Asia, police force in Singapore that keeps the city crimefree, the UN peacekeeping force - not only as security guards but also increasingly in managerial and decision-making positions. They have been able to invest their savings in businesses, and ignite the entrepreneurial fire among the younger generation in Nepal and reinvigorate their villages. If you thought the Gurkhas are non-assertive, you are wrong. They have become increasingly vocal about equal pay as their British peers and were able to rope in Tony Blair's wife to advocate their cause. I think the British/Indian Gurkha money has done more to develop villages like Tangting and Siklesh more than the government or even foreign aid. Also the spread of the Nepali diaspora throughout the world began with the Gurkhas - some parts of which have become the well-trodden routes for many homegrown celebrities and artists doing concerts abroad. In a sense they have become both the patrons and spokepersons for Nepali culture and arts abroad - much before the latterday migrants. I think abolishing the British Gurkhas is shooting oneself in the foot. It is a stupid idea, no one has proposed an equally attractive alternative. Given the deteriorating situations in Nepal leading to an exodus of Nepalis and increased unemployment, the British Gurkha /Indian Army is a very attractive option. If anyting, the government should promote the recruitment of this martial race by democratic countries of the West. I think there is a big potential here. Come to think of it: this is a far more respectable job than those many people are doing in the Gulf countries. The government of Nepal should wake up to this reality...and promote opportunities for the martial race far beyond the boundaries of the long-dead British Empire. This is in squarely in the interests of our country and also the peoples in the increasingly globalised world. ------------------- |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 19-Apr-04 09:53 PM
Yo Birader Karmapa! What them you is saying? Like him Thugged out birader say that them Gurkhas no can do good. Can them Gurkhas take big big birbes like them Mantris? Can them Gurkhas get them big big Pajeros and them Mansions with them Ministers Salary? Can them Gurkhas put them Nepali topi and wait to ambush hardworking peopal coming from da foreign countries at da airport? Can them Gurkhas appoint only them Relatives in them higher posts? Can them Gurkhas give all them gorment contracts to da Indians? Can them Gurkhas eat all them foreign aid? Them Gurkhas Janjaatis not can do them things. |
| dyamn | Posted
on 19-Apr-04 10:15 PM
Birader Rasta said: Where was them Jati biraders in Nalapani? Birader rasta, them chhetries people were in that army too and actually most of them were chhetries in the nala pani war. Do you consider them chhetri people as them jan jatis too? no hatered birader- love -peace... ther is only one solution to this current problem in nepal, and that is a dictator will inforce that you're only allowed to marry intercaste- if you ever wanna get married. that will solve the problem into a great extent.however thats not veyr practical, so it's gonna take a long time for people to get educated and start screwing/marriaying inter racially. British Gorkha has drastically imporved the economic and social level of our jan jati brotehrs. It's a win - win situation. Govt of Nepal should welcome retired gorkha brother and teach him on investment and provide him other programms for returning and bring money back to the Nepal's economy; for free. Govt is impotent to provide any such benefits. It is also dysfunction to establish any kind of program to lift up the living standard of brothers in villages, whether it's jantais or chhetri/bhauns or Newars. At least janjati brothers are getting some help , why stop it? it's rediculous to abolish gorkha recrument. however , govt should lobby and convience British to recrute from all groups. just my two cents.. Dyamn bahadur... |
| karmapa | Posted
on 19-Apr-04 10:44 PM
Well, there are idiots like Thugged Out, spouting a pretty racist remark. I would love to hang him by the balls. All I am saying is when opportunities and enabling environment are provided, anybody can shine in this world - whether you are janjatis, brahmins, blacks, the nagas, or dalits don't matter. And Viswas's idea of abolishing the British Gurkhas closes that one opportunity - which has been good for Nepal and its image abroad, if not for 'racists' like Thugged Out. That the lahures' remittances have helped prop up Nepal's deteriorating economy iis well documented and was played up by papers like Himal Khabar Patrika. The criticism of the British Gurkha is largely unbalanced and biased - it is coming increasingly from the non-Gurkha community circles... who are not the direct beneficiaries of this system. So I can understand our national pasttime -' legpulling' - but don't want to elaborate more. Also Vishwas's assertion that the British Gurkhas do not empower the Janjatis gives the impression that he cares about the Janjati issues , which I doubt. I wil not dwell on the Janjati issue (because that is not what this thread is about). My argument is that the government should promote the recruitment of the Gurkhas by democratic countries of the West. This should be seen as part of the larger trend to open opportunities abroad [Gulf countries, Korea, and Malaysia] for the Nepalis' people. Ultimately this can only help Nepal in the globalised and increasingly inter-connected world. It is also good foreign policy, something the Rana regime was astute enough to understand. |
| edge | Posted
on 19-Apr-04 11:59 PM
Believe me or not, the gurkhas play one the most significant role for Nepal. To stand out in the world as the bravest ground force, putting Nepal in the world’s map and helping nepal’s economy. Fact: the gurkhas’s income was the third largest in national income in 97. the gurkhas are very shy and loyal people. Like the mt. Everest, the gurkhas are one of the most important characters, which introduces Nepal to the world. The gurkhas spill their blood and guts in the foreign countries and the f**k**g government feed on their blood like a leech and still complaining. I don’t usually respond to or associate with ignorant a**h*les but I got to say that ,“thugged out” got to be high on something cos’ a normal individual wouldn’t write such a condocending comment. I am one of the gurkha bhanjas and I am 110% ready for any kind of challenges. |
| Lokman | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 01:11 AM
thugged out, I can see "INSECURITY" engraved on your forehead. Why do you have to be so vile ? Clearly, you are a guy with lots of insecurities who has to put down others to feel good about yourself. You poor thing. |
| kalebhut | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 03:11 AM
hello folks and my countrymen-women.. Much has been written on about these olive skinned and Cherokee look-alike Gurkhas “as one anonymous writer put it” and their bravery. This short piece of information isn’t a new thing for anyone whether one belong to a martial race he/she is proud of or someone who shuns at the very sight of this term-Gurkha. This is just my view, please read at your own risk. Legend has it that once a Gurkha unsheathes his kukri, he must draw blood with it. If there is no casualty, he must then nick a drop of blood off his own body before he puts back his knife inside the sheath. The myth of Khukuri and the legend of Gurkhas are both as unconventional but true in a way as it is about their tradition and culture. This myth portrait very lives of many Gurkhas as fearsome and foolish soldiers. It is like some sort of a paradox. Is not it silly to have his own part of body cut if there is no casualty after a knife is unsheathed? Whatever is it, this anecdote behind the Gurkha knife still triggers an adrenalin rush of rage in many a people. And they are now a source of pride and much of a talk to all Nepalese and their recognition is synonymous to Mount Everest in Nepal, to people all over the world. Their particular reputation as fearsome fighting men remains undisputed and the mere threat of their khukuri knives has put fear into the hearts of opposing forces around the world. Currently, there are only 3,500 Gurkhas serving the British government under a single battalion. They have been directly committed to British Operations in Sierra Leone. They were at the forefront of the NATO Peace Support Operations in Kosovo in 1999. The same year, they played a key role in the United Nations Peacekeeping Mission in East Timor. All units of the Brigade have contributed to United Nations and NATO Peace Support Operations in the Balkans over the last decade. At present, they are deployed in Afghanistan and Iraq to help curb terrorism and restore peace in the regions. However, they have no contribution to any peacekeeping operations against the Maoists’ insurgence in their own country- Nepal. Few of them are from the same school I attended to back in Nepal. Here, I should confess that even a sound of gunfire in war movies give me tremors of fright. A disturbing dissonance rang in my ears for one whole week after I watched saving private Ryan in Priya hall, Delhi. I also had few nightmares after I saw that movie. A guy sitting next to me wrenched with every ear-splitting bombardments and rattata of gun fires during the whole movie. I reckoned he pissed in his pants. The hall reeked of urine during the whole movie. That was only a movie but these guys who are at the frontlines in every battlefield – what are their hearts made of? As some other previous members had already posted how important their remittances are for Nepal’s GNP plus their families, I stay short here. But this should not obfuscate the fact how a government of Nepal stays quiet about the true figures they receive as royalty from British Govt in return to provision of these hill men as mercenaries. Thus, I believe that it would still be a good thing to continue recruiting jan jatis in British regiments on behalf of all parties associated in this manpower provision scheme. References: Brigade of Gurkhas URL:http://www.army.mod.uk/brigade_of_gurkhas An article “ Gurkhas: Myths and Legends” from www.suskera.com- February issue. |
| Kalekrishna | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 04:42 AM
Gurkhas are our face to the world, and proudly they have demonstrated our real characteristics (baring some incidences of bar brawls and accussation of rapes). Simple, faithful, joufull and obident that has been a Nepali characteristic and we are still popular by that notion, sadly this is fast fading out. It was, optionless situation compounded by zeal and enthusism to do something big, that draw our bretherns to this Gurkhe patta (a word favorite to my uncle an ex). However, this opportunity has not come without a price, broken families, spoilt childrens of Lahures is a nuisance they admit and it comes as a price to elavated living standards. This is again not different from situation with Nepalese associated with other profession. Well, in long term Lahure tradition has to be stopped for better but till then they deserve respect and acknowledgement for what they are doing for their families and society. Retired Gurkhas are contributing to the society in many ways, some say they were not there in the tol and chowk in their youth to contribute to the nation. What contribution are we talking about, where the youths just loiter and kill time gambling, atleast these bretherns are not in it. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 07:20 AM
Now again what them you peopal is talking lie here? Them Gurkhas them not do nothing. Them is just Buffallo Solja. Them world not know Gurkha, Them world not love no Jan jatis. Them world knows Nepal because of them contribusion of them Jaati Biraders. Them world community know Nepal long before them Gurkhas was there. Them know Nepal because of him Jaati birader Acharya Bhanubhakta. Him birader Acharya write them Ramayan. But them give Nobal Prize to him Valmiki. What them you is all talkin nonsense. |
| bhanja | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 07:29 AM
thugged_out, b careful about your remarks !!!! Don't u dare make such insulting reamarks. |
| thugged out | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 11:12 AM
Yes, indeed I agree,Gurkhas are a bunch of low-paid paleys, no doubt. In recent years, the term Gurkha is used to denote a security person. In other words, people on this board might have heard people say something to the effect of: "Hey buddy. Someone broke into my home last night. My Gurkha is useless. I am thinking of dropping him and hiring a blackwater merc." or like: "Hey idiot, even my Gurkha makes more dough than you do. So stop making fun of me because I am a waiter!" or maybe, "I don't need a Gurkha. I have my dog. He doesn't bark as much as your typical gurkha. Plus he doesn't ask for wage." |
| RBaral | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 12:38 PM
Thugged Out: In some parts of India, the word Gurkha pretty much means a Chowkidaar. For a typical Kathmanduite, an Indian means a banana seller, or a purana-kagaz-khaali-shishi-bottal. I hope you get the point. But, the fact is, the Gurkhas have been responsible for fueling our National Economy. Villages likes of Siklis (Kaski) are examples. Personally, I am saddened by the decrease of British Gurkha recruitment. Gurkha has been one of the most lucrative jobs -- and no substitute has come nearby. While in force they get better education and training, which our country gets for free when they come back home after retirement. In addition to that, Gurkhas also haven given us Nepalis an identity of sort. |
| dyamn | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 12:59 PM
I understand all that RBaral ji and i am a supporter of Gukha army and Gurkha recrutement. however, why would Gorayas only hire from certain ethnic groups? I understand and agree that Nepal can not provide what Gorayas has provided to our gorkha brothers from villages, however isn' t it like use or manupulation of ignorant and poor people from the third world to fight the gorayas war? The money is good, but what about the risk they have to take and what about the inequal treatment against them in compare to the goray sholders. I've heard that they're dispatched infront everywhere before the goray armies? doesn't that mean something like- you poor people from villages, be our robots, go die for us, risk your life and don't open your mouth kind of attitude from the gorayas? the way i see Gurkha recrutement is it's a sad process where a goray from first world uses a poor villager to kill his enemies. however, Nepal is so poor that we can't even say no to the process. It's sad . |
| thugged out | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 01:09 PM
"For a typical Kathmanduite, an Indian means a banana seller, or a purana-kagaz-khaali-shishi-bottal. " Yes, I agree Rbaral ji, but you forgot all about our Indian hajams. Also, don't you think the suntala sellers are worth mentioning, or do you opine that they are not in league with banana sellers? I think there is a reason why kera in our language has such negative connotation. That's right, it is directly associated with our Indian kera sellers. Therefore, some idioms like "lato le kera lai here jhai" has been directly influenced by our Indian kera sellers. Rbaral ji, how could you forget all about these noble occupations? I am flabbergasted! |
| edge | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 02:16 PM
Whatever you ignorant frustrated cowards think and write hiding behind the computer, but the truth about the gurkhas is they’re shy people and when it comes to facing the reality they don’t hide behind anything or retreat from anybody, they just finish the job, that’s the kind of bravery got the gurkhas around the world. Like I mentioned before I am one of the gurkha bhanjas and I don’t whine hiding behind the computer, I am kind of a person who takes care of business face to face. Looks like “thugged out” got pretty nasty demeaning opinions on gurkhas, I suggest if you got guts, you have to face one of the gurkhas and check out your options. |
| thugged out | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 03:04 PM
I can't face them, edge..I am sooo weak and emaciated that a Gurkha will knock me cold with only a single blow. Gurkha vs me.  |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 03:29 PM
Yo ! I like them picchur. Them littal guy have them bigger heart and guts than any of them Jaati biraders, Perfect picchur. Oh them Jaati biraders is just stay home with him momma and say I want my Momma, Oh ! As for them kaagaz, khali sisa botal biraders. Them pretty soon take over da kingdom. Actually them have already take over him thugged out biraders everything including his momma. But them Gorkhas have not lost nothing. |
| thugged out | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 03:35 PM
Just for the record, I am the smaller guy in the picture. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 03:39 PM
You is not them smaller guy You is them very big guy, Them big guy who them stay at home with his momma . |
| thugged out | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 03:52 PM
Fine, then, if you say so, I am the bigger guy. Next time on, read the "caption" before yapping, man. You totally misconstrued what I was saying. |
| dyamn | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 04:29 PM
rastra birader, not all jaati biraders are hiding home with their mommas- not all janjatis biraders are brave either. drop this caste issue, it just make everything more worse and creates hatred. . also in this civilized mordern world who gives a S whether you're brave or not.. wht it matters is wheter you've brain or not.. most kheryas i've seen are pant pissers when it come to bahaduri but they rule the world pretty much... it's the brain and hard work that counts.. you should be prasing your brothers for thier patience and hard work along with the bravery.. and don't forget jatti biraders are your brothers too.. dyamn bahadur.. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 04:54 PM
Yo birader Dyamn! I is always love and peace. Why them peopal always accuse I and I ? Why them your biraders thru da generasion tryin to keep I and I down? Why them even call I Jan jaati? Why them treat I and I sub human then they is? They is da one who them cause all them probilam in da kingdom. They is da one who them eat up everything. Is it not them fact? While them is doing all these and I is not mind and say nothing. Now them peopal coma here and again put I and I down. Why? What S... have them given to da country? What have them contribusion to da culture? Tell I one thing and I is be happy. You see our biraders still have them ideals as their fada and granfada. That is what I and I gets not happy. |
| KaleKrishna | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 06:32 PM
Rasta brother them is not jan jati it is Jhan-Jati ( even better), others may be jati (better). Drop that ethnic hatred, for we all all brothers, them is also I and I is also them. |
| dyamn | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 06:49 PM
them rasta birader, it sucz to be u. you is very insecure. why them so insecure broda? jati or jantaji they both are humans.. i is love both biradrs. both jatis and jan jaits has them nice and bad biraders in thir race.. jus cuz a broda is not janjati is no mean he has no cultors them broda rasta.. hyaaa.. pardon me, i'm not doing very good on soundling like you... Anyways, i just wanted to tell you that you sound like a typical black person in the usa getting mad at a white person. looks like u've lived inteh usa too long and heard/watched too many Dave chhapel's and chris rocks showsbroda. Your case is differnt. them jatis brothers in Nepal are poor too, them jati biraders in Nepal -not all of them netas and fatas. them jati biraders also have wasted blood -spared i should say for the cause of Nepal. them jati biraders are also true patrotic -some of them. jati -janjati both them biraders have problems in Nepal. Jan jati boradas can take out thier anger on jati biraders, who them jati biraders gonna take thier anger on? to indians??hmmm peaceeeee broadaaa peaceeeeee.... |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 07:19 PM
Birader kale Krishna and them dyaam again you is accuse I of being them ethnic and I and I is have them hatred. Wow! you two biraders have too many educasion. Them peopal when them call I and I Gurkhas bad and useless is their love towards I and I. My fada treat them with love and respect, my granfada treat them with respect. Now them biraders come here with love and call I jan jati and useless. Now you is call I insecure because I and I is honest and bring money with honesty to da kingdom. Yes them Jaati biraders make many sacrifice. Them sacrifice da whole country. Looka at them Sacrifice them makin now. Them Jaati biraders Sacrificing lots of Jan Jati biraders for them Kursi. Yes them Jaati biraders Sacrifice lots of things like them Lauda Air, RNAC, Nepal Oil, and many contracts to them Indian biraders. Oh by the way them Jaati biraders even Sacrifice all them Carpet Industry. I is not hate never no. I is only truth. Why them you biraders also shy of truth? You want I and I to sit here and listen when them start sayin to I and I and when I is not sayin nothing to them Jaati biraders. What Culchur them have? Like putting I and I down is them culchur? Like them Culchur of making da country empty from inside out? You is needs to ask them yoself biraders. |
| thugged out | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 07:25 PM
Dreadlocks mann, dreadlocks yoooooo. Gurkhas are basically chowkidars....! Rastafaria, could you write one more paragraph denouncing what I just said? |
| KaleKrishna | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 08:54 PM
Thugged out bro, why are you fanning ethnic flame of hatred, mind you if Gorkhes are chowkidar so will you be looked the same way. Either you will have to say I am not from that comunity/country and pretend to be what you actually are not. Yes, go to India and they will look at you the same way they look at average Nepali no matter jati or not jati. Rasta brother don't be prejudiced, nothing is made or created everyone owns responsibility for their destiny. It is high time brothers like you go back and involve with upgrading the plight of underprievledge communities. Acusing and blaming game will led no-where there is long way to go and yes we all have to sacrifice. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 09:02 PM
Ohhhh Yessssss! them Gurkhas only them Chowkidars. All them only Chowkidars. Like him, Dambersingh Gurung, Lainsingh Bangdel,Chandraprakash Rai,Tenzing Sherpa, Amber Gurung, Gajey Ghaley, Aaang Babu, Them otheri biraders is them do many things like Original Copy of Ramayan. Wow! them very difficulty to do them Copy. Them Nobel peopal should know this. Them should give him birader 5 Nobel prize. Them other biraders won many victories in them war. Them is make many musics. Them biraders make many arts. Them biraders climb many mountains.Them biraders play very good football too. Them birader thru da generasion just eatin him Kings Katto which is them S... Deny it birader Thugged out. Them eat that S... or not? Denounce now birader. Denounce from them your heart and soul and maybe go ask your momma. |
| edge | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 09:18 PM
“Thugged out” what the f**k is your problem, calling the gurkhas name again. Like I said before let’s get it on if you got guts or shut the hell up. I think you got hit in the head real hard by someone cos’ you don’t listen to others opinion, instead you stick to your idiotic comment. Let me tell you something, the gurkhas have been bailing out the f**king Nepalese government in the battlefield since the dawn of the Nepalese history. Hell, so-called prithivi narayan shah couldn’t even defeat one ghale king in gorkha back in time. Even after few tries he couldn’t defeat the ghale kind so finally he assassinated the ghale king with deceit in the name of friendship. Think hard with your ignorant brian here, do you think prithivi narayan united the whole Nepal with his army, who couldn’t even defeat one ghale king? Do you think those rana and shah kings were able keep the british off Nepal only with their army? Why the f**k the british recruits only the Mongolians, if your IQ is equivalent to a normal human being, than you know the answer. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 09:25 PM
Him birader Thugged out go to ask him momma? Him not no more answaring them my Quesion. Birader Kale Krishna. Now you is calling I Prejudiced. Now you is call I uneducasion when all them educasion biraders start this thread and do nothing but try to put down my Gurkha biraders you is call them Nice unprejiduce peopal. You birader Kale still ask I to go back and involve I to uplift da country. What have I and I been doing thru generasions? I and I been not involve thru generasion going back? I and I been putting them money in da foreign bank since my granfada time? What da heck you is talk Kale? You not them get it do you Kale? You is say I and I make no sacrifice? Where them have make sacrifice? But I is see them days not far away birader Kale. Dont be tellin I that day that I is not warn you. When them biraders start make sacrifice you is know how them is make sacrifice. |
| Bramha | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 09:32 PM
Rastafariya Biradar! I and I is right on what I and I said! I and I is honest and no clever and them jati biraders have done mosta damage to country. This is because them and them majority and them and them only in politics. I and I should have no hatred to jati biraders, as KaleKrishna said, I and I should do something to develop I and I community, give I and I more educasion, participate I and I more in good politics and I and I make country better. Them biraders, not all but mostly corrupt, need some lesson from I and I. What do I and I think? hey Rastafariya, there's a very good adult humor contributed to you by Miss Dominatrix in HUMOR section. Aren't you excited? Just check it out-:) Have fun. |
| karmapa | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 09:56 PM
Thugged Out doesn't have an argument. He just plays up the old stereotype, which is old news. I think he needs to update himself more, and clear the cobwebs from his mind...'cause he's only got bigoted caught-in-the-spiderweb flyshit in his brain. This is 2061! Wake up, Kumbhakarna! Like you can afford a Gurkha chowkidar or that you are some hotshot fellow...like every Gurkha is at your service. You are probably deluding yourself...fantasizing...building castle in the air!! Wake up Rip Van Winkle. You are probably a mama's boy...with a bad bad breath. Grow up dude - lest you become a walking antique! |
| TilKumari_Ko_Poi | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 10:40 PM
Vishwas wants the recruitment of British Gurkhas abolished ........... Gurkhas money keep Nepal's economy floating . ..............He wants Nepal to sink . |
| viswas | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 10:53 PM
Biruwa said: >>>>>These people who are trained in warfare and are psyched up to kill humans are ill-equipped to deal with daily hum-drum of civil life. >Yes, precisely my point biruwa ji. These soldiers that retire after 15-20 yrs of service in the army come back home hardly find any further use of their skills ….. ********************* thugged_out said: >>>>>>Gurkhas couldn't even open a coke bottle, much less open a can of whoopa$$. They're worthless and weak. You leave me with nothing worthwhile to say in response. I realize the futility of arguing against noblemen of your kind monsieur. Bravo! ******* Karmapa said >>>>>>>>The Gurkhas of today are not like those of yesterday, just fighting with the khukuri.... The nature of warfare has changed enormously and the kind of training the British Gurkhas receive today reflects this. GPS, remote sensing, GIS, and state of the art technologies that are even more state of the art than those found in your garden variety colleges and universities. I understand the weight of ur opinion Karmapa ji. The nature of warfare has changed indeed. Before, the Gurkhas may have had to rely on crude tactics of warfare, waving khukuris ….now they have been replaced with the state of the art-technology driven weapons, powered to wreak greater havoc…what is there to be proud of? >>>>>Warfare is no more about just……learning strategy, doing teamwork with increasingly multinational colleagues, and austere discipline, which are all veritable marketable skills. “They have been able to invest their savings in businesses, and ignite the entrepreneurial fire among the younger generation in Nepal and reinvigorate their villages” (emphasis mine) When they retire, many British Gurkhas have been able to parlay their lifelone experience for jobs in casinos in Macao, increasingly in cruisers, body guards for some of the richest people in East Asia, police force in Singapore that keeps the city crimefree, the UN peacekeeping force - not only as security guards but also increasingly in managerial and decision-making positions Karmapa ji There you go. You on your own admit that the British Gurkha retirees are employed in casinos in Macao, in cruisers and as bodyguards of some of the richest men …what difference in principle is that in respect to an army career….in both cases the person has to work in subordination to a higher authority. As of your claim-: retiree Gurkhas igniting entrepreneurial fire among younger generation. Not so true I reckon. In regards to tourism in villages like siklesh, ghandruk, sirubari ( as of a new one to join this league)- I don’t think this achievement comes any where close to your high claims of igniting entrepreneurial fire among the younger gengeration. Instead, since tourism hit these places, the level of truancy among the school going youth in these villages has been seen on a rise. Appeasing khaire tourists with naach gaan, and bunking classes has been the past time of the youth in these villages. >>>>If anyting, the government should promote the recruitment of this martial race by democratic countries of the West. I think there is a big potential here. Come to think of it: this is a far more respectable job than those many people are doing in the Gulf countries. There really isn’t a difference between the two. It all boils down to the same thing. Where is the entrepreneurship? I don’t mean to say that B.Army men, or those who labor in the gulf are any less important . My point is this tendency of joining the army has left these select groups of Janjati with VIRTUALLY NO representation in other sectors of public life in Nepal, namely government, politics, business, academia and so on; which not only affects them but the entire nation. It has created an imbalance as of which the demographics of Nepal illustrates succinctly. >>>>The government of Nepal should wake up to this reality...and promote opportunities for the martial race far beyond the boundaries of the long-dead British Empire. I agree. Hitherto, the government’s efforts to revitalize the largely dormant section of the workforce, that these retirees comprise of., has been ZERO. This issue definitely needs to be addressed. |
| viswas | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 10:54 PM
>>>>Rastafaria said: Them nice biraders with great knowleje of mathamatical, diplomacy and intelligent divided da country so nicely that it can not be put back together. Them biraders divided da countrys wealth for developement so nicely among themselves that them leave nothing for da kingdoms developement. Them divided everything so nicely Rastafaria ji, Quite frankly your SCHOOL OF THOUGHT in regards to this whole affair of who has done what to the country- although quite tempting is equally childish and immature. To a calculated extent, you might be right that the current gap between the jan jatis and jatis, may have its roots in the forces of societal actions, processes ( their underpinnings as such), and these forces might very well have structured the face of the society in such a manner that served to the advantage of one and to the negation for the other, but don¡¦t you think that dwelling in past and playing the blame game is an act of imprudence in itself. Times have changed and despite the hegemony of the bahuns and chettris in the larger portal of the socio-economic-political front, I believe that the janjatis, terai basis, himal basis and the broader Nepalese diaspora today has equally open chances to level their achievements.. Instead of striving to do so why this grudge? Is there anything holding you back from trying to work your way up the ladder? I believe NOT. So my suggestion to you as a wellwisher- WHY NOT USE YOUR TALENT TO VOICE YOUR OPINION SO FLUENTLY FOR A BETTER CAUSE? *************** Dyam: >>>>>>Govt of Nepal should welcome retired gorkha brother and teach him on investment and provide him other programms for returning and bring money back to the Nepal's economy; for free. Govt is impotent to provide any such benefits. I agree. So far the government has been highly unsuccessful to this cause. Well, had they tried¡Kwould they have been successful. The governments attitude towards the Gurkhas has been that of indifference¡K.except for that in recent years it has been advocating for the raise of pension salaries for the Gurkhas. ********** Kalebhut wrote: >>>>>Legend has it that once a Gurkha unsheathes his kukri, he must draw blood with it. If there is no casualty, he must then nick a drop of blood off his own body before he puts back his knife inside the sheath. Yes, right. And these kind of myths need be DISPELLED. We ourselves fuel such myths at times while having conversations about the Gurkhas with foreigners. Although the world know the Gurkhas soley on the basis of such myths¡K.we still need to make an effort at least to not give the same picture to those who don¡¦t know about the Gurkhas. ************ >>>>kalekrishna wrote: It was, optionless situation compounded by zeal and enthusism to do something big, that draw our bretherns to this Gurkhe patta (a word favorite to my uncle an ex). However, this opportunity has not come without a price, broken families, spoilt childrens of Lahures is a nuisance they admit and it comes as a price to elavated living standards. This is again not different from situation with Nepalese associated with other profession. Yes. It is no news that a larger cohort of the children of the B.Gurkha soldiers comprise of school bunking-disco going- and drug experimenting kids in Nepal. As you pointed out, this is a price that the B.Gurkhas have to pay¡K.It is a direct result of lack of supervision , guidance and good role models¡K. *********** >>>thugged out indeed I agree,Gurkhas are a bunch of low-paid paleys, no doubt. In recent years, the term Gurkha is used to denote a security person. "Hey buddy. Someone broke into my home last night. My Gurkha is useless. I am thinking of dropping him and hiring a blackwater merc." Indeed, renderings of your kind , IMPRESS me! I feel sorry for though. *********** >>>>Rbaral In some parts of India, the word Gurkha pretty much means a Chowkidaar. Sad but true, I guess. ƒ¼ ****** >>>edge Like I mentioned before I am one of the gurkha bhanjas and I don¡¦t whine hiding behind the computer, I am kind of a person who takes care of business face to face....Looks like ¡§thugged out¡¨ got pretty nasty demeaning opinions on gurkhas, I suggest if you got guts, you have to face one of the gurkhas and check out your options. Edge ji. I understand your resentment¡Kbut it is not through the power of violence that such issues be settled. ********* >>>Kalekrishna Rasta brother them is not jan jati it is Jhan-Jati ( even better), others may be jati (better). Drop that ethnic hatred, for we all all brothers, them is also I and I is also them. Kale Krishna ji. Dhanya hos tapai¡Kƒ¼ sad indeed. ************ >>>dyam Anyways, i just wanted to tell you that you sound like a typical black person in the usa getting mad at a white person. Dyam ji, I think the case of the African Americans is uniquely different , me thinks. Their history (Im sure you know better), has been a far darker one. And how much has things changed for them? They are still victims of prejudice and discrimination ( both at the individual and institutional level), much as we Asians are. I am sure you have experiences of your own. Apologize for the typos filled ¡Kslipshod writing¡K Viswas. |
| dyamn | Posted
on 20-Apr-04 11:16 PM
Visow ji, good narration up there, but looks like you got the wrong idea from the line you picked from my earlier posting. The line following the quoted line says the exact same thing that you've said in your latest message for me . thanks |
| edge | Posted
on 21-Apr-04 12:10 AM
Viswa, I understand your diplomatic view. These kinds of issues are like a sinking sand. but I think you misunderstood my opinion on solving problems face to face. i don't blame you though, cos' people tend to jump to the conclusion too soon. Face to face doesn’t always mean kicking ass. I am not a kind of person who hides behind the computer and act like a bad ass. Confronting face to face is courageous, cos’ it doesn’t give you any time to think or check any kind of datas, you say whatever you have in your mind and how much knowledge you have on the subject, that’s how I take care of my business. |
| dyamn | Posted
on 21-Apr-04 12:52 AM
dyamnnnn.. is this ever gonna end or it's gonna spare more blood in the soil of Nepal?.... this is sad, very very sad.... |
| karmapa | Posted
on 21-Apr-04 01:24 AM
Hi Vishwas, there is nothing wrong working as a subordinate...if their meals come from somebody else. the age old subsistence economy no longer cuts it. They have to go out into the real world, abroad even, to sell their labor. The retired Gurkhas have marketable skills - is all I'm saying no matter where they end up working. Is it that bad to work as personal body guards of some of the richest people in East Asia (eg the bodyguards of the richest person in Taiwan are Gurkhas), in cruise ships, in the Singapore police force Nepal...are you nuts? People have died for lesser jobs. I work as a subordinate to somebody else...should that worry you? There is pecking order all around and one has to start somewhere and move up. Ever heard the phrase 'career ladder'? The problem with the likes of you is that you sound like you were born a prince with a silver spoon in your mouth and can always be your boss. Well good for you! For the majority of the world population, they don't have your kind of luxury. You have to visit the urban centres of Nepal to see where the children of Gurkha soldiers are revitalising the local economies. Go to Dharan, Pokhara, Kathmandu and look hard and you will see. They still have a long way to go but the pattern / trend is emerging. Don't expect an overnight miracle. Rome was not built in a day. Besides it doesn't behoove you to be nitpicking about Gurkha kids going to disco or bunking classes or experimenting with drugs...that's frankly their choice...they can choose to do whatever they want with the money they have...they are smart enough to know what's good for them and what's not without your telling it....they will learn by and by...its all learning...why should you worry your head over that. what point are you trying to make here anyway? So now you not only want to ban the British Gurkhas but want to attack their kids also. You can say the same about the kids of the rich people of non-Gurkha families...why don't you ban their jobs? you don't have to look very far to know who i'm talking about. Lady Diana and Maradona also took drugs, do ya know this? you can ban their jobs as well....your criticism of the kids smacks of some sort 'racial profiling'. if you want to look at the demonstration effects of all these you are better off looking elsewhere. But leave the kids alone. like I said the criticism of the Gurkhas is mainly coming from the non-Gurkha circles and are therefore biased and envy-tinged. when it has come from within the community itself it has led to positive effects: like banning of gambling and liquor in villages. ama samuha is active in places like siklesh, tangting, khilang and gandruk to do just that. |
| karmapa | Posted
on 21-Apr-04 02:40 AM
< Biruwa, if you don't know your arse from your elbow, you shouldn't be writing stupid stuff like this. Well then go ahead ban the Royan Nepali Army if you can!!! You do disservice not just to the Gurkhas (our topic here) but to all those who are in the armies or ever were. What proof you have that they are ill-equipped to deal with civil life? I don't see the ex-Gurkhas in the Bridhashram of Pashupati Nath...living off the handouts...but are living off the pensions that they earned through blood, sweat and tears. Viruwas, don't slip in the same shit as Viswas - who being from a country where the average person makes under USD 1 day - wants you to believe that Nepalis should not work as subordinates...as if we were all born with silver spoons in our mouths and have that luxury. Or when he implies wrongly that banning the British Gurkhas...will prevent all that discoing, truancy, drug taking by the Gurkha kids - as if this was the exclusive life style of Gurkha kids. The fact of the matter is when he said that the British Gurkhas don't help the Janjatis (in his first posting), he was giving the impression that he cared about the Janjatis. Now I know better. The thing is he doesn't care about anyone but himself. If he could sell his parents and live off the income, he probably would. See he doesn't like being a subordinate. "I may not be smart but I think I can see, When someone's pulling the wool over me." -D --------------------------------------------------- |
| thugged out | Posted
on 21-Apr-04 04:17 AM
Gurkhas are idiots because they wanna die for someone else instead of for their country. Go ahead, kill yoursevesf for a Brit or an Indian, I'll just lay back, eating my popcorn, while y'all get decapitated in battle fields. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 21-Apr-04 06:40 AM
Yoo Hoo birader Thugged out! You is never them denounce them thing I is write. Again them birader not clarificasion. You not hear I birader Thugged out? "I'll just lay back, eating my popcorn, while y'all get decapitated in battle fields. " Birader them you is only da one who them can afford them popcorn, lay down and watch them big big TVs in them poorest country of da world. Yes we is, dig da fields, fire da kilns, carry them burden, fight them war, Weave them basket, Save them peopa while you is just them lie down eatin them popcorn which yo fada probably get dem from lyin down so low him almost eat them dirt. I and I stand tall and tell anyone who I is . |
| thugged out | Posted
on 21-Apr-04 07:55 AM
I and I had an eye and eye for an eye. Aye! |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 21-Apr-04 09:20 AM
Yes them birader neva no answa. Now even him Vishnu Avataar not liking them biraders. Now even him Vishnu Avataar of da Kingdom Kickin them biraders ass very very baaad. Him sayin I is no more lisen to you. Now him Vishnu Avataar ver angry with them biraders who them eat all them Democracy. Be careful biraders. |
| dyamn | Posted
on 21-Apr-04 12:53 PM
.. why don't you just go make a gas chamber and try killing all the jatis ?? if that makes you feel any better - go ahead and do it.. |
| viswas | Posted
on 21-Apr-04 02:10 PM
Edge >>>> These kinds of issues are like a sinking sand. but I think you misunderstood my opinion on solving problems face to face. i don't blame you though, cos' people tend to jump to the conclusion too soon. Face to face doesn’t always mean kicking ass. I am not a kind of person who hides behind the computer and act like a bad ass. Confronting face to face is courageous, cos’ it doesn’t give you any time to think or check any kind of datas, you say whatever you have in your mind and how much knowledge you have on the subject, that’s how I take care of my business. I am sorry if I misunderstood u. To me the tone of your posting sounded “confrontational”. Not necessarily physical maybe …. ********* karmapa>>>>>Is it that bad to work as personal body guards of some of the richest people in East Asia (eg the bodyguards of the richest person in Taiwan are Gurkhas), in cruise ships, in the Singapore police force Nepal...are you nuts? People have died for lesser jobs. I work as a subordinate to somebody else...should that worry you? I am sorry if you fail to see the thrust of my opinion here Karmapa ji. To reiterate, “My point is this tendency of joining the army has left these select groups of Janjati with VIRTUALLY NO representation in other sectors of public life in Nepal, namely government, politics, business, academia and so on; which not only affects them but the entire nation.” >>>>There is pecking order all around and ONE HAS TO START SOMEWHERE AND MOVE UP (emphasis mine). Ever heard the phrase 'career ladder'? The problem with the likes of you is that you sound like you were born a prince with a silver spoon in your mouth and can always be your boss. Well good for you! For the majority of the world population, they don't have your kind of luxury. Again, you counter your own argument. Indeed one has to start somewhere. So, why don’t we start here, today and now “OR” do we wait another two hundred years more. I am not entirely dismissive in regards to the contributions of the Gurkhas to uplift their communities. They have indeed come a long way and a vast majority of them today are able to sustain themselves. So has the time not come to shift gears? >>>>>You have to visit the urban centres of Nepal to see where the children of Gurkha soldiers are revitalising the local economies. Go to Dharan, Pokhara, Kathmandu and look hard and you will see. They still have a long way to go but the pattern / trend is emerging. Don't expect an overnight miracle. Rome was not built in a day. Yes the pattern is emerging, and that is what bothers me. I see a cult following of kids who set false priorities ( which u seem to uphold with such ardor) ….and what happens to them they grow up, when adolescence hits? : To many its hits home hard, that all those years of indulgence- cheap thrills and aversion from school has cost them much. And you very well know where and how they end up: in the villages, towns and cities like-Kowloon, Yuenlong, Tokyo, NY,CA and list goes on n on. >>>>>Besides it doesn't behoove you to be nitpicking about Gurkha kids going to disco or bunking classes or experimenting with drugs...that's frankly their choice...they can choose to do whatever they want with the money they have...they are smart enough to know what's good for them and what's not without your telling it....they will learn by and by...its all learning...why should you worry your head over that. what point are you trying to make here anyway? Yes it is their free will, but again when they choose to go around messing up with their lives. Does that not concern you? >>>You can say the same about the kids of the rich people of non-Gurkha families...why don't you ban their jobs? Since this discussion thread is explicitly on the Gurkhas, my views are in regards to Gurkhas only. But in any case , I hope you are not trying to misconstrue the meaning of my opinion in regards to the whole issue… I don’t mean: that the kids from Gurkha families are “truant and bad; and so we must abolish the Gurkha system”. NO. You are isolating a single case here. The other facts remain-like under-representation of ex-Gurkha servicemen ( or their kith and kin) in the other sectors of the country- In case of the Gurkhas, I see the abolishment of this system, as the most viable way to start a different trend. As in the case of “non-Gurkha families” different circumstances prevail so different ways may have to be sought. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 21-Apr-04 02:43 PM
Birader Viswas you needs to have some Viswas! You dont git it. Do Ya? Viswas>>>My point is this tendency of joining the army has left these select groups of Janjati with VIRTUALLY NO representation in other sectors of public life in Nepal, namely government, politics, business, academia and so on; which not only affects them but the entire nation.” I is been tellin that them biraders and their fadas before them and their fadas before them make I and I Janjaati and not let do nothing Just because them we is difference. And you is still not see in them 21 century that biraders here still say that we is inferior peopal. If you wants them Proof, Why dont you them looka in them India and tell I how many states is them Ruled by them what you biraders call Guurkhas. Like all them Gurkhas biraders go to Chowkidari or them Army? Them Chief Ministers all go to Chowkidari? Wake up and looka and accept da fact.Get them your head straight! |
| dyamn | Posted
on 21-Apr-04 03:21 PM
wow. i never realized that the situation is so intense. I come from a chhetry family, but since my elementary schooling i've had many ' mongolian' friends. My best friends are gurungs and thapa magars from Butwal. we did all kinds of crazy stuff together in junior high and high school back home. We always stood together. They were always welcomed in my home, my mother treated them like her own son. I was always treated like a son in thier family too. One my my closest friend from butwal and his family still call me in the USA after 9 years. My little sister (my best friend's sister) still sends me pics and letters saying they miss me. now i'm a chhetri and i'm not bullshitting any of this. Just thought i would share some of my personal expirence. well, they used to call me names and i used to call them names when we were growing up together but we never felt like we were enemies to each other. After reading messages in here from our rasta and other biraders i feel like all those bondings all those togetherness and love were fake? did they always have feeling for revange and hatred against me for what Prithivi Narayan Shah did hundreds of years ago?? wow..... well, i better not listen to you pricks, you racists pompum pricks.. who are making it worse for both jatis and janjatis with your insecure comments.. you proably had feeling of hatred and you never made a good frind from jatis , i on the other had never had such feeling and i made lots of good 'mongolian' originated friends, and to in the name of the honest love friendships and trust.. let me tell you this: FU,,, ckkkk racissssssssstttt bastardddddddddddsssssssssssss adios, dyamn |
| dyamn | Posted
on 21-Apr-04 03:23 PM
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| thugged out | Posted
on 21-Apr-04 06:33 PM
birder dyamn, you taking things too seriously myan. Rastafaria is GBNC ko clown yaar. You just need to pull his legs to make him bark. Like so: Gurkhas are a bunch of durbans. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 21-Apr-04 07:33 PM
Yo birader Dyaamn! See that what I is talk about. You biraders always angry. I and I is never no anger. I and I is always Peace and Love. You is needs to learn Love. Birader Dyaamn you is needs to learn and looka at them facts. Didnt him King give them biraders Democracy? What them nice friendly biraders do with them Democracy? Them bring lots of them Devlomen in da Kingdom. Didnt you see them all nice nice Big Big houses and them lots of them monies in them Foren bank? Everyone of them biraders wanted them Democracy. So them all wanted Democracy. Now looka what them nice nice friendly virtue peopal do with them Democracy. Now him Vishnu Avataar not like that. I is hear that him now not like them nice nice virtue biraders. I is heard that him Vishnu Avataar say " Them biraders took all them Democracy. Them Democracy of RNAC, Lauda,Doorsaanchar and all da Saanchars and put them in da Foren Bank. You wakey birader Dyaaamn. Him other birader just eat his popcorn and relax and not realisasion of da situasion. |
| suva chintak | Posted
on 21-Apr-04 07:46 PM
Hold your horses folks, Figure out what kind of a Gurkhey bhadur this chappie is: (from The Nepali Times) Royal Salute I read with interest the articles and letters in the #191 edition of your paper. I salute the officer who fought in Beni and his brave brothers in the security forces for their gallant and selfless action in defending the interests of the nation. I also salute those brave brothers and sisters who fought on the opposite side. At least they showed that they have the courage of their convictions, unlike the failed so-called leaders of the mainstream political parties who are responsible for getting us into this mess and now have nothing better to do than clog up our streets with demonstrations. SN Singh, in the same issue, calls for the mobilisation of British, Indian and Nepal army ex-servicemen in this time of crisis. As one who had the honour and privilege of serving alongside such gallant gentlemen, I wish to declare my readiness to serve king and country and appeal to my former comrades-in-arms to do likewise. For some 200 years the citizens of this country have been prepared to fight and die for the British Crown. It is time that we returned that favour. Maj Andrew Duncan, King Edward VII’s Own Gurkhas (The Sirmoor Rifles) |
| Lokman | Posted
on 21-Apr-04 08:30 PM
Thugged Out, Just because you are frustrated and bitter, you don't dump your shit on here. If you can't do anything with your life, why won't you take your sorry a$$ out of here and go beg on the streets. I bet your parents are beggars too. You sound very unhappy and bitter with your life, but that gives you no right to dump your filth on here. Take your problem somewhere else. And guys, c'mon, you don't have to sweat over what some mad people with a truckload of issues write on here. Why bother at all? As I said in my earlier post, he is an insecure guy who has to slander others to feel good about himself. Insecure people are very hard to deal with. Let this guy sob in the corner. That's what he deserves. |
| karmapa | Posted
on 21-Apr-04 08:32 PM
Viswas, I'm flattered that you've read me well. I see you are now only arguing over cosmetic issues. British Gurkhas care more about the Janjatis than you ever will inspite of your posturing. It don't matter where they are - be they in the US, or Kowloon, or Borneo, or Singapore, or London, or India. It is a fallacy to think that you've got to be in Nepal 7 days a week 365 days a year day in and day out to help Nepal. If you witnessed the crazy DV Lottery phenomenon, and the mushrooming of manpower companies...and wholesale evacuation of villages owing to insurgency...you know people are starting to think they can better help themselves and their country by working abroad. Your thinking is old, and I think you need to update that. Moreover, you do injustice to the Nepali diasporans when you think along this line. There is another national body pushing for the Janjati representation in the national polity, and increasingly organising themselves - let the Gurkhas do what they do best, empower their own folks through economic upliftment. These are all going to add up eventually. You gotta attack several flanks of the nation's fundamentally-flawed structure which smacks of the gory medieval past. "Has the time not come to shift gears?" You wrote. What do you mean? Ya, that's why I say that the Nepali government should push for the recruitment of the Gurkhas by democratic countries of the West, which makes for good foreign policy.The young generation is already shifting gear - going into TV and print juornalism, starting their own businesses, fashion, boutique, singing, etc. Slowly like I said a pattern and trend is emerging, takes time for the demonstration effects of these to trickle down, role models to surface. Why do you want to kill a goose that has been laying golden egg s (by suggesting a ban on the British/Indian Gurkhas and going after their kids with malice - are you that stupid?) Like one of the posters wrote in this forum: the Gurkhas have been the face of Nepal for quite a long time. And like I said you can not solely target their kids for truancy, drug taking, or whatever... this is a more a function of boredom, curiosity, peer pressure, mistaken cool , and wealth [so this is a universal problem in that sense] than of their parents being in the army. Well if you thought banning British Gurkhas would solve this social problem, there is a big disconnect between your reading of the problem and your proposed solution - the ban. Well I am not concerned about the kids... like I said they are smart enough to know what is good and bad without your telling them. They will learn. It's their new found freedom. They will emerge stronger if they can pull through this phase. If they go beyond the limits and become a liability to others, the law of the land will deal with them. But still this doesn't absolve you of your selective targetting of these kids, or for your failure put this in bigger scheme of things. Ah, probably you wish you enjoyed the kind of freedom these kids enjoy. What do you do anyway? Just hit the book, and study to be a doctor or an engineer because your parents tell you to do so so you don't have to be a subordinate, and envy when others, esp Gurkhas, are becoming subordinates. Mama's boy indeed! Probably you need to get a life, or throw those books away and say riskybusiness style ' sometimes in life you have to learn to say what the f**k!" Just chill man!!! |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 21-Apr-04 08:33 PM
Yes birader Lokman! I is agree with you. You is them very right. Him Thug birader needs to change and become them Love birader. |
| czar | Posted
on 21-Apr-04 08:33 PM
Compliments to Maj. Duncan's courage in expressing his sentiments. Perhaps it is time his felow countrymen returned the signal honour and privelege. Some interesting points raised by an articulate group of writers. Thugged Out: you've having yourself a right royal ball. You've managed to stick in the craw of a few, I notice. That delighted grin plastered on your face gives it away. But most likely you've hit your quota for this thread, now mosey along and find unsuspecting victims in another thread. Go on, don't be greedy now. Or you'll give everyone a heart attack and be left with no more playmates. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 21-Apr-04 08:39 PM
Him Rasta here! Him Rasta always here. But him Rasta only speak them Truth. Him Rasta is always Love ,Peace and them Truth. |
| viswas | Posted
on 21-Apr-04 09:23 PM
Royal Salute I read with interest the articles and letters in the #191 edition of your paper. I salute the officer who fought in Beni and his brave broth..... As one who had the honour and privilege of serving alongside such gallant gentlemen, I wish to declare my readiness to serve king and country and appeal to my former comrades-in-arms to do likewise. For some 200 years the citizens of this country have been prepared to fight and die for the British Crown. It is time that we returned that favour. Maj Andrew Duncan, King Edward VII’s Own Gurkhas (The Sirmoor Rifles) ******* There is something fishy about this letter. How do I know that he is not just another IMPOSTER ?!! viswas |
| edge | Posted
on 21-Apr-04 10:15 PM
I think “thugged out” got his two ears clogged with couple of big old black d**ks cos’ he can’t hear what other people has to say. he ain’t worth responding to. Probably he's writing it from a nut house with a d**k in his mouth, cos’ if he comes out in the public with that attitude he ain’t gonna be walking straight for a long time. I just don’t understand why people jump to the conclusion too quick and why they can’t comprehend a simple sentence. “dyaam”, I was the one who wrote the history about prithvi narayan, and let me ask you, do you see any racist comment on that post? I was writing that to support my point about how much the Mongolian people have contributed in the battlefield through out the nepalese history. I am a Mongolian guy and I do have lots of very good friends from other casts too. You said you have really good Mongolian friends, but looks like you’re the insecure one being judgmental calling people racist without understanding the point.You calling me a name ? you’re are the f**king racist D**k sucker, reacting without thinking. If you were a good friend of Mongolians, you wouldn’t jump to the conclusion too quick. You’re the fake racist a**h*le. "czar", i don't agree with the letter, cos' it ain't fair for the gurkhas. the gukhas been used and abused by both the f**king nepalese and british government since the dawn of the century, and they still wanna use us? hell NO. the f**king nepalese government has been sucking the blood of the country and the poor nepalese people forever and now finally the public has guts to stand up to them for their rights, and the f**king government want to use the gurkhas? f**k NO. |
| blackcat | Posted
on 22-Apr-04 07:49 AM
All these negative criticism about the gurkhas are unjust. to all those people who are badmouthing about the gurkhas are just sore losers. |
| dyamn | Posted
on 22-Apr-04 10:50 AM
Edge, when i read your message i got very angry at first. I even wrote a nasty reply , but then when i was just about to post it , i got disconnected haha.. and that gave me enough time to realize that i'm in this thread to remind/assure everyone to drop this jat bhat shitz and live in peace and brotherhood. God knows and I know that i'm not racist as you tried to prove me up there. Friend, hatred is not a solution, heck it's not even an option for a healthy minded people. Hatred always brings bad outcomes- just wanna remind you one more time. and with frustration and feeling of failure to preach people about love and harmony , i'm leaving this thread once for always.... hajur ko bhakta, dyamn bahadur.. |
| thugged out | Posted
on 22-Apr-04 02:26 PM
Gurkhas couldn't even break a twig with a judo chop. They are worthless. |
| SITARA | Posted
on 22-Apr-04 02:46 PM
Sire, Dyamn (Yes, Sire, archaic but suits my purpose, just fine!) "failour to PREACH" Dyamn ji ? Really, were you trying to impress, or people were not being impressed??? Or was the EXCELLENT English and arguments/discussions of many of the posters too "Bombastic" and "Complicated" for you to comprehend, tolerate or digest? How come you are not "preaching" your "these people are trying to impress us/ME with complicated English" rhetoric?! Trust me, I have problems with quite a few political expressions as well as jargons too... you must surely be having as much or more.... by your rationalizations. Yes, some of your rationalizations I fail to comprehend; I wonder if it is your sophisticated/complicated language ability or my lack of interest! And ofcourse, hajur ko Suva Chintak (sorry Suva ji...borrowed your name without permission) SITARA P.S. DO TAKE IT AS A CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM! |
| dyamn | Posted
on 22-Apr-04 03:00 PM
hahaha sitara, i did.. thanks.. you're the greatest... i had to come back and thank you although i said i wouldn't.... and you're the best elementary school teacher i've ever known.. now go some kid had pooped on his pant.. ;) your suva chintak too dyamn |
| dyamn | Posted
on 22-Apr-04 03:02 PM
opsss. .on his pants |
| suva chintak | Posted
on 22-Apr-04 03:09 PM
Sitara jyu, For the purpose of disseminating love and goodwill in Sajhapur, this name comes free of cost, no need of permission. But when Sitara jyu uses I & I to glove a whooper of an uppercut, I usually wince for the victim :--) Yours truly, SC |
| dyamn | Posted
on 22-Apr-04 03:11 PM
and ooh ya sitara, whatever doubt left in my mind about your intellecuality has quicky swifted away by your personal attact on me in a different context thread....Sonika_NY is the best match for you.. spare me.. thanks hajur ko param bhakta dyamn |
| SITARA | Posted
on 22-Apr-04 03:23 PM
Beloved sire, Dyamn (notice the archaic combined with a romantic term of endearment, if you will... again, suits my purpose, just fine!) "Perosnal attack re?", Whining now?? Ye hajur, can't you recognize a "Constructive Criticism"... Dyam Bahadur Style, Come now... apparently, I have been impressed enough by yours to use it upon the "Preacher", himself! Hajur ko aati Suva Chintak (thanks Suva ji :) and Attempting...ooops trying to use "simple" English when conversing with you: Hajurko matra "constructive criticizer" SITARA |
| SITARA | Posted
on 22-Apr-04 03:26 PM
As for "INTELLECTUALITY"...If you know what it really means... I will happily rest in peace... I need not carry such a heavy burden, sire! Again happy for your ability to discern "Intellectuality" Ooohi Sitara! :) |
| suva chintak | Posted
on 22-Apr-04 03:37 PM
Excuse my intrusion into this most interesting dialogue, But why does this 'constructive criticism' here takes me back to the UML's 'critical support' to Girija government? I tell you, this is "Deja vu, all over again" as Yogi Barra would have said, redundently of course! SC, in jest as usual |
| rohini_a | Posted
on 22-Apr-04 03:44 PM
construct say what no i no not but what ever your engleesh bad so much sitara so please stop it ok. Suva chintak you too engleesh is bad so stop ok? |
| SITARA | Posted
on 22-Apr-04 03:50 PM
At times, a tad bit "contexually challenged", though it may seem, the "impressed" follower has no option but to follow the "Preacher of Constructive Criticism"! Sorry for the interruptions, members of the discussion panel. Please do continue! :) Note: clicking on any of the words alone may/may not capture the total nuance of my meaning! Foot Note: ** Suva ji, if you've had the opportunity to read Sajha's enumerous threads, you will be fortunate to read Dyamn ji's aati sincere "constructive criticism" on --- ""anti-bombastic and old, old, big, big Shakespearean words usage as a ploy to impress other Nepalese" campaign! Apparently he feels that people are out to IMPRESS HIM with their writing style. |
| czar | Posted
on 22-Apr-04 05:08 PM
To the gentleman perilously on Edge, Don't A clarification of my comments seem needed for you. So, here goes. I compliment Maj. Duncan for his courage in I also wrote “Perhaps it is time his fellow Maj. Duncan, however, seems to think his duty lies House of Gorkha = Shah regime, I’ve got that off my conscience now. Phew. Sitara: Playing Loki ? Thou shalt slaughter only so many sheep, lest their Those determined on Barbaric Illiteracy |
| esl student | Posted
on 22-Apr-04 05:54 PM
"At times, a tad bit "contexually " I detect something called "redundancy" here. A "tad bit"? "A clarification of my comments seem needed for you" Should be "seems". General comment: Stop it with bashing people with "jhur" angreji. Methinks those who wanna stand on the soapbox should first run a spell-checker/grammar-checker on their own angreji. I'm just an ESL student;what do I know? |
| SITARA | Posted
on 22-Apr-04 05:58 PM
Thank you esl student! AND I REST MY CASE!!!! You've just proved my point! :) |
| SITARA | Posted
on 22-Apr-04 06:01 PM
I don't bother to run the spell checks nor do I write to impress anyone, ... I write on an impulse, MY IMPULSE... pure and simple! Those who have a problem, deal with it! :)))) |
| dyamn | Posted
on 22-Apr-04 08:31 PM
Sitara, thanks for your criticism. I humbly take it. and i apologize for my mistake/s as you have pointed to me on this thread. thanks once again...however, i would have much appreciated it if you had actually brought some constructive criticism. Sitara, you need to grow up, and ya ture right haha eat some titaura and go to sona ya right ture rohini?hahahahah.... :) dyamn |
| edge | Posted
on 22-Apr-04 09:29 PM
“czar”, first of all I did not jump on your ass like you thought I was. You don’t have to be defensive right away. I was reacting how I felt towards the article. even though I addressed you at the beginning of the sentence, that doesn’t mean I was blasting at you. Don’t be so judgmental and I don’t need your sarcasm, on the contrary “edge” doesn’t mean literally “an edge”. |
| edge | Posted
on 22-Apr-04 10:11 PM
“dyamn”, you’re the one who called me a racist in the first place. There wasn’t any racist remarks in my post. You can comprehend a simple sentence can’t you? Don’t try to change your accusation now. Be a man, stick to your point and try to make it clear, rather than smooth things up with your miserable excuses. |
| dyamn | Posted
on 22-Apr-04 11:27 PM
so what do you want from me edge? yes you're racist, you have hatred inside your pea brain... so what>? what are you gonan do to me? come on , bring it on punk biatchhh |
| dyamn | Posted
on 22-Apr-04 11:33 PM
read these lines bitaatchhh, Let me tell you something, the gurkhas have been bailing out the f**king Nepalese government in the battlefield since the dawn of the Nepalese history. >> who are gorkhas?? you mofo.. who come in and bash in a message forum or a brother who's dying for his country back home at this moment.... Hell, so-called prithivi narayan shah couldn’t even defeat one ghale king in gorkha back in time. Even after few tries he couldn’t defeat the ghale kind so finally he assassinated the ghale king with deceit in the name of friendship. >> yes, and you were present there , weren't you? and that was your uncle?? Think hard with your ignorant brian here, do you think prithivi narayan united the whole Nepal with his army, who couldn’t even defeat one ghale king? >> noooo only you and YOU is brave in this planet earth.. you're the God. you're the most bravest of the brave.. you're the best of the best.... ya ya my azzz.... Do you think those rana and shah kings were able keep the british off Nepal only with their army? >>> yes only with thier army. yes thats true bitch.. gurungs and magars who were actively participated on Prithivi narayan shah's army were his army too.. bitach... you racist bastard can't do anything besides bashing... die mofo Why the f**k the british recruits only the Mongolians, if your IQ is equivalent to a normal human being, than you know the answer >> cuz they know they can manupulate ignorant and sojo sajha mongolian people , you sucm bag.. you moran.. open your eyes.. and readdddddddddddd.. you don't even know what you're writing you stupid piece of sh..it , good for nothing fool... |
| edge | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 12:45 AM
“dyamn”, stop crying you sucker, try to make a point, understand what others saying, don’t be running your c**k sucking mouth here. You’re the f**king punk. Like I told you before I did not write any racist comments, I was just trying to make my point. If you can’t understand that, that’s your f**king problem. |
| dyamn | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 10:08 AM
trying to make points with steriotyping and racist comments towards chhetries? you punk.. hatred creates hatred, biatc...only a morn like you make points with such generalized and degrading info about chhetries.. you are a racist. you are a racist little prick who needs to get laid with a man.... |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 10:44 AM
Yo Peopal. why them fight? You peopal is not racist. I and I is a racist. I and I been racist thru the generasion. Them Gurkhas is Racists. Them Gurkhas always been writing them bad things about them you peopal. Them Gurkhas always being them leaders and political peopal. Them Gurkhas always trick da innocent peopal in da name of Democracy. Them Gurkhas is da one Racist peopal who them ruined da country and make it to them present condision. Them Gurkhas bad Racist peopal. |
| Biruwa | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 10:56 AM
I have seen that some people who don't agree with a certain view dip down to low levels of indencency and name calling. This does nothing to highlight their side of argument. In remember Ashu once writing in one of these threads that most of the time, arguments degenerate into name calling and using dirty words rather than a logical and articulate debate. People don't hesitate to just straight away make personal enemies. Ask yourself, is this any way to behave ina community? -I have to take a break here, since I am having a hearty laugh- -done- lol -really done- ok, People seem to have so much hatred here that any discussion just renders itself to hateful race bashing. This is specially true of Lokman, rastaman and company. Here, I have to admit that I don't read much of rastaman's postings. I simply don't have time to read his 'different' english writings but I have read enough of him to know what kind of bias this guy has. I raised this issue about Gurkhas because I really feel that we should not be dying in somebody else's war and what for? - a pittance. But a group of guys posted here assuming that it was a perspective from outside of their 'race'. Look, I am a Nepali & You are a Nepali(if you believe). But you accuse us(the other side of the argument) of disparaging the Gurkhas. Yes, we are saying that the Gurkha army (where ever they may be fighting) are 'fighting'. And it is in the very nature of fighting that you KILL ,MUTILATE people. It's not that when you join the army you get a good training and a fat paycheck and you live happily everafter. That's why I feel that Nepalis should not be fighting. Whether it be in or outside Nepal -period- |
| dyamn | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 11:06 AM
Rasta birader, you is Gorkha? Them i knew a guy from them your place. them is guy very nice.. Them is name Tul bahadur and them is my friend who them is back home but them is dead by them maoists.. them broad them is kright, them all politician them chhetries and bhauns , them shold be put in them GAs chambers like them birader Hilter did in the past. them is kright.. them Gorkha people= only true and honest = only puuuuuuuuurrrrrreeee Nepali = "mongolian" , huh? little kanfusing.. i is thought them Gorka is them them Nepali peouple.. i never knew them Gorkha is them mongolians from Mongolia.... i is no unnerstanning birader, how them come Gorkha is lived them by mongolians.. i is think them gorkha is in them Nepal and them Nepali them live in them Gorkha? yes true? so when is you kill all them chhetri and bahuns them birader gorkha? ya kill them all, them are not human.. them are all evil.. them all are corrupted, them all are relatives of them girija prasad.. kill them my mongolian birader... |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 11:08 AM
Yo birader Biruwa ! You is so so right! Them Gurkha biraders should not be fight and die for other peopal. Them is better die for him Baburam, Baadal, Him Vishnu Avatar, Him Girija Koirala. Like them last time. Them should die for assurances instead of them promises. Because when them win like last time them will get to see many nice mansions, thick checkbooks, Pajeros, Toyotas and even Mercedes Benz in them bad roads of Kathmandu. Them Gurkha peopal very stupid to fight for their livelyhood. Them Gurkha peopal very stupid to bring in them money in Nepal where them many industry and infrastructure is. Them stupid Gurkha peopals fada and Granfada very wrong to bring them bad money to da kingdom where peopal was die of hunger and illness. Damn Stupid Gurkhas! Fight for them nice nice leaders and you gets to see more them nice nice buildings and them flat panel TVs in Kathmandu. Do them proud things. |
| Biruwa | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 12:57 PM
"Man is the only animal that deals in that atrocity of atrocities, War. He is the only one that gathers his brethren about him and goes forth in cold blood and calm pulse to exterminate his kind. He is the only animal that for sordid wages will march out... and help to slaughter strangers of his own species who have done him no harm and with whom he has no quarrel.... And in the intervals between campaigns he washes the blood off his hands and works for "the universal brotherhood of man" - with his mouth". |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 01:01 PM
Now ! him birader Biruwa talkin them big big words. Didnt they talk them big big words that I and I did not unnerstan before? Didnt them explain to I and I? Tell I which one of them did not say nice nice big big words? Of course it is them Gurkhas who them did not say nice nice big big words. Them Dumb Gurkhas. |
| Biruwa | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 01:45 PM
fariya ji, Since u posted just 4 lines, I read them! Its easier to read short posts when u post them in a 'different' english. We are used to the established rules of english for communication Kya. :) The quote that I posted above is a very simple sentence which expressed my sentiments exactly. Where did u find big words in that quote? Ofcourse with u'r 'different' english, you might have found regular english difficult to read. But u know what? Just like we take pains to read u'r post(sometimes i just ignore it[not out of disrespect but because i know that the time wasted > anything gained]) :o() |
| edge | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 05:04 PM
“dyamn”, did I ever even write a word “chettri” in my post or attacked chettri ethnic group? you can’t even read correctly can you. Snap out of it. I thought you’re far more smarter than “thugged out”. You two gotta be relatives or homo buddies. Honestly it is my first visit to sajha forum and it will be the last one also. I came to this site to check out the next nepalese convention, cos’ never been to one yet. Me and my friends are planning to participate in the soccer tournament and have fun. I couldn’t stay away from this topic, so I got into it. Bad move. I am done talking to a wall. Hope you two(“dyamn” and “thugged out”) will have a happy life and lots of ass banging. Because of this idiotic never ending biased views of couple of thick headed homos, I am little behind on my final project. I rather start preparing for the final weeks than trying to make a point to the people who can’t even differenciate one word from another. |
| thugged out | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 05:17 PM
Gurkhas are dhido-loving dweebs. They suck. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 08:51 PM
Him Vishnu Avataar is kickin them biraders real baaaad. Him Vishnu Avataar know them peopal. You go vishnu Avataar ! You go! You is kick them thug Netas. You go Vishnu Avataar! Them biraders fada and grandfada made you Vishnu Avataar. So you is can kick them butt as many as you wants. |
| Biruwa | Posted
on 24-Apr-04 10:11 AM
Following is part of an interview of a former Gurkha soldier. Since we were recruited by the British, we had to fight on their behalf. We knew they were fighting the Japanese and the Germans. At that time, Germany was a big power. Physically too, they were big. They were strong enough to thrust in the bayonet in the body of a Gurkha soldier and then raise his body up. They could squeeze a Gurkha to death using one arm. Quite a few Nepalis died in the war. One of them was my brother-in-law. Unfortunately, no one can collect his pension because his father and mother were long dead and as he joined the army as a lad and died in the war, he never had the chance to marry. |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 24-Apr-04 01:57 PM
We refuse to be What you wanted us to be We are what we are Thats the way its going to be You cant educate I For no equal opportunity Talkin bout my freedom Peopal freedom and liberty Weve been trodding on The winepress much too long Rebel, Rebel! Babylon System |