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| goredai | Posted
on 22-Apr-04 04:35 PM
I dated a thakuri girl(rana mother) for a year and I was amazed by the way they live and the things they value in life. First of all(the biggest part of their life) gambling is so normal in their household. They think gambling is some kind of social status. Bigger the stake(kati rupiya point) better the social status. Another big thing for them is the ancenstry. Whose, what, how is someone related to who reflects what position they have in society. With such a feudal thinking among the ruling class no wonder maoist have points to fight for. But the sad thing is that other nepalese are following the trend. Specially bahun/chetris, speaking the language Ranas speak, following same nuptial ritual and obviousely the values in life. Newars are the only cast left to follow the trend due their strong cultural background in ktm. Can someone please explain these self proclaimed elite class what Martin Luther King Jr. said "judge me by the content of my character not the color of my skin"(in our case cast). |
| Biswo | Posted
on 22-Apr-04 09:39 PM
Interesting observation.Obviously, not everyone is as profligate in that community as you portray. Anyway, I had read Nara Shamsher's autobiography, Uhaakai Juwaani, last summer. I was surprised to read some of the details. Juddha Shamsher's household was pretty big, 120 members. Juddha, his mahaaraani, quite a few other raani, susare girls and other girls (you can guess why they are there), then kids begot from these people. 120 people. In deed a big family that was. Gambling is interestingly portrayed in the novels of Diamond Shamsher (Though after reading Griha Prabesh, I have started to doubt the veracity of his narration in earlier books too.) I think there was this super-rich businessman in KTM, with sirname Bhatta, who was big time participator in Chandra Shamsher's gambling den. Before being PM, apparently even Chandra borrowed a lot of money from him, but after becoming PM, he expelled him out of KTM. In anycase, if these people are living life in which vices are admired, then they are the one who will suffer. We just have to make sure that they (those who are in power, I don't care about those who are not in power and those who don't hold inborn rights) don't gamble with the future of our country. And we have to make sure that they don't gamble with our national revenue. We have to make sure that they don't buy Bentley with the money that we ought to be spending to save kids from diarrhea in Rolpa. We have to make sure that they don't spend crores of rupees in saari in Hongkong with our money that should be spent in opening schools in Solukhumbu. As long as we keep on paying these worthless scums exorbitant salary and duty free import, they will keep on sucking our nation's blood. |
| dyamn | Posted
on 22-Apr-04 10:09 PM
.. some corrections: 1) Other castes play juwa too. I've seen bhauns, Newars, cheetries, Mongolian, tibetan , maithali , everyone playing juwa. 2) other castes have thier own standards of juding too, which of course is not good, but ranas and shahs are not the only ones. Newars, bahuns, chhetires, Mongolians all like to marry thier children within thier race and they have thier own set of standards. 3) Ranas and Shahs are chhety too. .... thanks |
| Megalomaniac | Posted
on 22-Apr-04 10:51 PM
Gambling, doesn't matter either done by Bahun, thakuri, basihya or whoever, does no good. To think that the gambling is the thing for social status or social prestige is nothing but just a folly. The hindu epic mahabharat clearly show the consequences of gambling. The whole mahabharat battle was a mere result of gambling between Duryodhan, along with his Sakuni mama, and Yudhistir. It clearly reflects what a gambling can do to the charecter like Yudhistir. Despite all his goodness, he gambled his own wife and lost. Nothing greater a Man can bet then his own wife, did that raised the status of Yudhistir. What was the social status Yudhistir had after the gamble he gambles? I pity those gamble and "gamble big " for thier social status. Wake up!! The gambling for social status is common in Nepal. Sad but true, the stake that these people are gambling is the nation's future. One is gambling the nation's future to remain king,another is gambling for the "chair" that holds the power to control nation, and another is gambling to fulfill thier personal goals. Whoever these gamblers are or whatever they are gambling for please don't stake nation's future for it. |
| DWI | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 06:33 AM
I doubt Gambling was the point that originator wanted to draw here. I have read a lot of comments on racism that exists in Nepal and most of the time the views themselves are presented racially biased. While it'd be nice to eliminate the boundary that seperates us from each other, some cultures thrive on racial diversification. I myself would love to see all Nepalese embracing their culture and not having racial prejudice, but that might just be another line in 'I have a dream.' I have read racial comments on Brahmins, Chhetriyas (specially targeting Shahs and Ranas) and even folks from Terai(whom most identify as an immigrant from different country:Madhes?). I think each of these groups have their own culture. I have seen large gathering of our Sherpa (and other Tibetan/ Mongolian/Kirat root) brothers; their tradition doesn't resemble anything that rest of the ethnic groups. Newars Folks also have a little different way of celebrating their festivities; so do other races that have flourished in our country. But in the end,we all gather for same purpose and we all discuss same politics inside the country. While it is outright wrong to dominate another group with superlative addresses to their own only, it can be termed a part of their culture for Ranas and Thakuris. Just like Newars would use their own language among themselves, Sherpa-Rai brothers would practice their own style in daily conversation inside their house, The former groups also have niched out a 'style' so to speak. I have sensed a sense of isolation while Shahs and Ranas use those languages but our discussion should be focused on THAT point about removing the discrimination, not demeaning any group in particular. Our words shouldn't be personal but rather a public opinion for the betterment of the entire country. |
| Dr. Strangelove | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 08:42 AM
It's not a good idea to make rash generalization. It would only serve to enforce stereotypes. There are people who indulge in debauchery in every caste and creed. Biswo comes up with little anecdotes whose sole purpose is to portray Ranas in bad light. Ok, Chandra Shumsher supposedly cheated this poor brahmin, Bhatta. How about Girija & Co. robbing all of us blind? I merely shake my head in amazement at the blatant spin put on current events, politics, casteism and what not by this pontificating pundit whose sole purpose is to promulgate his Girija Babu agenda. This guy reminds me more and more of Madame Defarge from Dickens, A Tale of Two Cities. |
| dyamn | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 10:03 AM
I actually think Rana/shahs are the minority, and people are being racist against them for different reasons. If the guy had said something like: ohh i dated a mongolian girl for a year, she was a daughter of a lahuray and her family used to drink lots of "thumba" and "chhayang" and played llots of gambling, also the social status were based on who could go into British army and who was compromising for the India Gorkha; or something like that- then it would have been a total different secenrio. Rasta and his gang would be shouting and yelling and giving us more verifications of thier bravery. Poor Ranas and shahs. Double standards guys- double standards... not cool..... Racism is not good at all whether it's on Ranas /shahs, bahuns, chhetries, Mongolians, newars, tharus,maithaleyes, tibetan.. of whatever one's background , roots, or other profile is. Grow up guys , grow up... and bro, whoever wrote the first message, just cuz youdated a rana/shah girl you accomplished so much info about all the ranas/shahs huh? |
| dyamn | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 10:05 AM
you think you have accomplished.. (have to correct it, or else sitara will whop my aaa) |
| isolated freak | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 10:13 AM
I totally and wholeheartedly agree with Dr.Strangelove, Dyamn Bahadur and DWI. Generalizations based on isolated incidents can be quite dangerous. |
| geordie | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 11:29 AM
if u visit casinos of kathmandu,majority gamblers are either mongolian faced (lama,gurung,rai, magar etc) or newars.and even marwadis. no hard feelings. ranas dont gamble,they show off. |
| dyamn | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 11:37 AM
so is gambling better than showing off? or is showing off better than gambling? whatare you trying to say, and why so hostile towards ranas/shahs?... |
| geordie | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 11:54 AM
excuse me, i said, ranas " show off" not shahs. ranas are chettris ,where as shah is thakuri. got it. |
| dyamn | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 11:58 AM
hahah do you know thakuris are also chhetries?? haha |
| geordie | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 12:04 PM
all sardars are punjabi but all punjabis are not sardar, got it. |
| dyamn | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 12:25 PM
i am not a punjabi or a sardar... so the example is no use for me... Shahs are thakuris , who are also chhety... and are you mad at your ex or something? is that why you're little ticked off towards the entire race of shahs and ranas?? |
| chubby_cheeks | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 12:49 PM
goredai!! u dated "a thakuri girl"...maybe she didn't know her values...don't attack on the whole rana/thakuris like that...and u said "I was amazed by the way they live and the things they value in life"..wat do u mean "they"???did u go live with them for a yr and observed them or something????...u prolly know wat the gurl told u... |
| yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 01:16 PM
i really donno much about it... but hey the way u have described rana n thakuri family.. i see almost any other cast believing n doing the same.. tryin to be superior.. marriage- frm the same caste level, with good standards n values. esp financially mingle - with those who share the same status as you do |
| DP | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 02:12 PM
My research has shown that most of the Juwade's wives cheat on their husbands. I have fawked a few women in their own house during Tihar when their husbands get lost in gambling (in their own house) with other people.I get these chances because I don't play cards. DP |
| Biswo | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 03:21 PM
Dr Strangelove, I liked your character in the Stanley Kubric movie: a paraplegic sicko who revelled at the prospect of destruction, a bombmaker whose psychological illness only matches yours. Now, I hope once you are cured, you will see that I just quoted a few published records of the past in my reply and I had nothing against the castes in question. It is those who suck nation's economy by virtue of their inborn right, especially the royal family, that I have problem with. You can post something other than attacking me if you don't like what I quoted above.[And yes, I know you are attacking me in other threads too, but I have always ignored you. I thought this time I provide some fruition to your long time reading of my postings and spewing garbages afterward:-) ] |
| mahakaal | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 03:35 PM
every body is a racist aint it ?? i am no rana shah but tghey have thier traditons ways styles so what the @#k.they cool with that so whats your headache.if you a bahun and i say you bahuns are dick because you think you the best caste you wont marry with a kami and blah blah what you think about that...i know some bahun giorl who would not date or be on relation with a newar leave alone kami soo............................. rana nad shah are rana and shah ,bahuna nd chettri are bahuna nd chettri so keep it that way ... |
| Biswo | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 03:46 PM
mahakal, I don't mind. if you say Bahun is worst caste, that's your view. I will move on. So many people waged caste debate in this forum, I never participated. I don't give a damn about these things. If you read my postings carefully, you will know what I was trying to show: some people are not only Rana or Shah. They are our rulers. Those Rana rulers ruled centuries without letting us open any school. These Shah rulers have destroyed our generation, they suck our economy's blood.Their life deserves some scrutiny. And when you scrutinize these people's life, a lot of muck shows up. There is no racism in that. You are free to scrutinize the life of Girija and Madhav Nepal too.There are thousands of Rana and Shah in the country and I don't give a damn about others: the issue is about integrity of the rulers. I hope you get it. |
| dyamn | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 04:02 PM
Biswo made some good points.. i never saw it from that point of view.. you're right. |
| EnufRespectseeyan | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 04:56 PM
biswo may i ask where the shah rulers have destroyed our generation and sucked our economy's blood?? such a statement is not applicable. may be 1 or 2 may have gone on that track but you cant refer the statement to all of them. :-) |
| DWI | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 06:17 PM
Biswo, When you criticize about our Shah and Rana rulers, I won't take it as a generalization to the entire cast. I know you are not targeting the cast here, but rather the ruling system. But blatantly blaming all the Kings for Nepal's problem is being naive. There is no denying the fact that Nepal was in a dark age during Rana dynasty, but mixing Shah kings into the same mix is a disgrace to the kings like Prithvi Narayan, Tribhuvan and Birendra. Nepal didn't come ahead of the herd during their rule, but there are several other factors associated with it. Didn't the king loose his absolute power following the big-democracy movement? What happened to Nepal? It didn't made any strides towards prosperity, heck it went even worse. I am not advocating for King here; whether I am up for it or not is my personal opinion and I would like to keep it that way (I'll tell you this: I don't wanna see Paras as our next King). But blaming the kings and Nepal's history for Nepal's plight is like blaming Saddam Hussein for all of America's problems. |
| Biswo | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 07:27 PM
>What happened to Nepal? It didn't >made any strides towards prosperity, >heck it went even worse DWI, I have talked about it a lot in the past. But, let me write it again, we made a stride in the last 12 years. Several of such records were released in the articles in Kantipur and Himal in the past. Himal had even an issue with the cover 'Agragaami Chhalaang' about three years ago. Again, if you have proof, some statistical study by some good professor suggesting otherwise, I will be glad to read it. Of course, there was a Dev Shamsher among Rana rulers, and there was Prithvi Narayan Shah. Birendra was ok during post 46, but he was the one who ruled for 18 years with autocratic power. He definitely shares the blame. |
| mahakaal | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 08:00 PM
biswo i would like to tell you that it is not clever to go back to the rana regime when people where not allowed to study which infact is true but the thing you say for bahuns tooo,no not a racist debate all over again.the janajatis were not allowed to go to schoool and the scriptures we had was destoyed by bahuns.now for that reason it aint good for me or we to say bahunt his and that alll over again like people saying about rana and shahs,or is it? |
| Dr. Strangelove | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 08:05 PM
You can take a person out of Tandi but you cannot take Tandi out of that person! Look who's talking now. Spewing garbage, that's your job, mister! |
| Biswo | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 08:12 PM
mahakal, Like I said earlier, I havenot blamed any caste collectively. It is the rulers and those who misused power and national resources who need to be criticized. We must revisit the history, we must learn from the history, it is important to revisit the past, because like William Falkner said, the past is not dead, it is not even the past. If Bahuns are responsible for repression against janajaati, I think we need to bring that up. We need to talk about that too. I don't think that is racism. Remember, talking about slavery is not racism, not talking about that is. |
| pravenj | Posted
on 23-Apr-04 08:45 PM
The baahun that is being repeatedly mentioned, as the one getting kicked out by Chandra Shamser from KTM is a person by the name of DevyaDev Pant, probably the greatest gambler Nepal has ever seen. He was kicked out of KTM and all his possessions were taken by the then Ranas. Later on he died a very poor and heart broken man. But when the man was in his prime he was unbeatable with Cauka dau in Kauda. It seems when he went to PashupatiNath there would be no flowers or fruits in KTM. The legend goes that he challenged Chandra Shamser or whoever was the ruler then to a game of Kauda where he would throw the Kauda from the top of SinghaDarbar.This incident seems to have put the man in bad notation with the ruler and triggered the end of the Legend. Later on during another game of Kauda he seems to have said "BharaBhure baad" to the then ruler and the then Rana ruler is said to have banished him from KTM and taken all his possessions. This is something that can be verified from his offsprings in KTM. |
| DWI | Posted
on 24-Apr-04 06:07 PM
>>Biswo:we made a stride in the last 12 years. Several of such records were released in the articles in Kantipur and Himal in the past. Himal had even an issue with the cover 'Agragaami Chhalaang' about three years ago. Again, if you have proof, some statistical study by some good professor suggesting otherwise, I will be glad to read it. Biswo, It is absurd to even think about pulling statistical record and annual development file, when you can witness the plight of Nepal with your naked eyes. Anybody, who tells me Nepal is a better place to live since the Democratical uprising, must've been living in a different planet. Nepal still is highly dependent over its neighbours and most of the development in this region can be attributed to media (outflux of satellite and cable channels) and technological (mostly software) development within the South Asia region. The Government indeed has taken few good steps that contributed to the progress (eg privatization, de-centralization etc) but I highly doubt that this was impeded by the Kings (back to the main point). Still if you insist on statistical data then this is what I pulled off South Asian Foundation Reports and World Bank: Average Annual Growth: 1983-1993 Agriculture: 3.4 unit Industry: 9.2 Manufacturing: 10.1 Services: 4.7 2003> Agriculture: 2.1 Industry: 2.3 Manufacturing: 0.4 Services: 2.7 2002 data is even worse, with -ve indicators. Trade has made a significant improvment even though import has increased highly too. Compared with 83 debt has gone 8 folds without significant improvement in any sector where the debt was inteded for. |
| suva chintak | Posted
on 24-Apr-04 06:22 PM
DWI jyu, Interesting points worth mulling over. The only point I would like to raise here is the reliability of editorial opinion of one publishing house: the Himal cartel. Sure, in the last 12 years the Himal newspaper group has made great strides and made much $$. But to extrapolate from that personal experience and say that whole country has also made similar giant leaps is, to say the least, misleading. At this point, one does not actually any opinion or stats to see how the country has gone down the drain. Security, social services, employment, production, and peace....all are too clear to see. Unless, of course, we choose to see something else. For God's sake, at least people were not butchering each other like this on big crazy slaughter house back then. SC: Cry, the beloved country! |
| DWI | Posted
on 24-Apr-04 07:11 PM
Well put Suva_Chintak. |
| Nepal_mero_desh | Posted
on 24-Apr-04 07:42 PM
That's mad gay...jerking off in sajha kurakani like herbs...if u got guts then don't f@*q roun here...go nepal and solve the problems....that's it...bidesh ma ni basnu chha afnai desh ko kura kati rachan yaar....thuieekaa!!! |
| Biswo | Posted
on 24-Apr-04 11:20 PM
DWI, I would like to know your data about 1989-2002 and compare it with before and after. Data of 2003 is something we should ask Gyanendra. Data from before 1989 belongs to Panchayat. As for looking around and finding plight, I don't know what and where (which sector, which region) you looked at. Can you give me a specific example of a sector that did worse than it used to do in Panchayat era? |
| niksnpl | Posted
on 25-Apr-04 01:23 AM
the sectors are: 1. corruption 2. human rights 3. media freedom 4. and so on.................. |
| Shaiva | Posted
on 25-Apr-04 03:20 AM
Biswojyu, what kind of thread is this? I know Rana/Shah are very valuable--Expensive with the capital very intentional--but do they have any values? Of course, my apology to honourable exceptions in advance. |
| chubby_cheeks | Posted
on 25-Apr-04 07:24 AM
lol ..and he's talking about values???is that wat he was taught from his society?to talk shit about other people's values??hmmmmmmm ~`CC`~ |
| touch_the_sky | Posted
on 25-Apr-04 01:19 PM
Another racist thread, BULLSHIT. |
| utsav | Posted
on 25-Apr-04 01:49 PM
DWI, please bear in mind that you are not communicating with "illiterate" people here. I think you need to take basic course in statistics. Don't try to mislead people using ridiculous comparision. If you really want to make a comparision, take avearge for years between 1990 to 2001. 2002 (to some extent) and 2003 should be counted as good old panchayat days :) For your kind information, there have been many positive developments in post 1990 period. You can't just focus on few corrupt people and ignore the rest. Just because democracy made everything transparent does not mean that corruption was the outcome of post-panchayat days. I would rather say that it continued, sadly, in the democratic regime as well. I wish Mallik Aayog report was released then. Don't know whereabout of it now. If it is still somewhere, I would support wholeheartedly any initiative that will be taken to make it public (I don't care whether they are punished legally or not). At least it would expose people who are now claiming to be clean........... |
| Ebaje | Posted
on 25-Apr-04 04:17 PM
All I care about elimination of Ghusya Chor Bhate like....GOVINDE JOSHI, CHIRANJIVE WAGLE aka KHURSANI MAILO, KHUM BAHADUR aka HANUMAN, BIJAYA GACHHADAR and all those listed in Mallik report. WHere are Maobadi....?? Maobadi should start dealing with these DeshDrohi first and you can F**** Gyane lil later. Gyane is Smoking Weed while Nepal is Burning.....Interesting article in NY TIMES |
| Rastafariya | Posted
on 25-Apr-04 04:21 PM
Jah Live! Chillun Live! |
| kreep | Posted
on 25-Apr-04 09:49 PM
Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you will be like him yourself |
| lopsee | Posted
on 25-Apr-04 11:54 PM
dalli khoi? |
| lopsee | Posted
on 25-Apr-04 11:55 PM
dalli gave me dhoka! |
| M.P. | Posted
on 26-Apr-04 12:13 AM
I am surprised DWI--an othewise a reliable person--quoted the data as they are only to justify what he was claiming. Here is what I think would be the appropriate method (a similar suggestion was also sent to some so-called democratic organizations in NY, who merely claimed the economic progress in the democracy period was faster than that during the Panchayat). --Take the data from 1980 to 1990 and compare by how much the social indicators changed. Don't just pick indicators of your choice--like agricultural or manufacturing growth. We need to look at many other indicators, including literacy rate, number of households with electricity, growth of private media, etc. etc. --Take the data from 1992 to 2001 and do the same. --Now, compare in which period the progress has been greater for each indicator. If the progress has been the same in the two period, multi-party era wins, as the economy has been affected by the Maoist after 1996 and especially after 2000. I did a rough estimate when I was a sophomore for my economics paper. I remember claiming that multi-party era had made a faster progress. But the paper was not that concise and did not include many important indicators. I will see if I can locate it in my computer. A friend of mine spent a summer doing a research on the same topic. Last time I asked for his results, he said it was likely to get published until when he would not be able to give me results. I do not know if/where that is being published (just between you and me: my hunch is that he is still working on it). But it would be really nice if somebody did a trustworthy study so that this issue can settle for ever. Until then, it would be better if we did not post misleading data and added to the chaos. It does not serve anybody's purpose -- not even of those who think Gyanendra should become an active monarch. Oohi, "Back-up is good, but get a reliable back-up" Unqualified Economist |
| Brook | Posted
on 26-Apr-04 12:52 AM
In order to draw political inferences from economic data, let's make sure we take into account the time trend (as performances were surely enhanced by increased learning, technology induced scale economies etc.). Put differently, let's draw a clear line between economic liberalization and political liberalization in our analysis and draw our conclusions accordingly. |
| M.P. | Posted
on 26-Apr-04 02:36 PM
In the current issue of the Nepali Times, CK Lal writes, "We have come a long way since the late 1980s on nearly all development parameters. Average life expectancy has gone up, infant mortality has dropped, literacy levels have climbed up and poverty in the countryside has decreased. Guess what, it all happened during the decade that the country was democratic." [ source: http://nepalitimes.com/issue193/stateofthestate.htm; Stress added] I have my skepticisms about what CK Lal normally writes, but this time he has stiken the nail on its head. Hear, hear -- especially those who are trying to claim that in context of Nepal, economic development should precede political development (of course, political development, at least from my perspective, means being more democratic)! |
| DWI | Posted
on 26-Apr-04 04:59 PM
MP No doubt that is a credible way of analyzing this thing. More time is needed to prove such ascertion. But my point was not to focus on the statistics, read on: Biswo Either you are trying to dodge my point or it is just not reaching you. Reading your past posts, which I have admired, I think the latter is not true. Statistics that I presented was a brief way to answer your question. Bigger point is that Nepal doesn't need statistics to prove that her present situation is worse that what it was before. NY Times (April 25th edition, although I don't agree with much of its blah blahs) expressed the opinion of one politician that Nepal is going through one of the deepest crisis in 200 years and I cannot agree more. Statistics are scientific method of proving an ascertion. A truth, that is the plight of Nepal, doesn't need a book's reference to prove that it is indeed the truth. |
| DWI | Posted
on 26-Apr-04 05:10 PM
Utsav, Thanks for reminding me that most of the readers here are actually Literate. What a revelation. Coming to the point. You probably read my posting above about my POINT. It was not about the need of statistical analysis; ask yourself do you actually need a book reference to prove the condition of Nepal right now? About the comparison being unfair, I hardly think so. 1983-1993 grossly represent Panchayat era (now I don't have statistics for every freaking year that Panchayat reigned). 2003 represents current. The point I made was that present situation is worse than Panchayat era. To assess present situation, you don't have to go 10 years back, matter of fact it makes the statisitical data diluted. When I say present, I meant present. You can't do the same for Panchayat because I have to look Panchayat as a whole. There is no restriction in statistical comparison that prevents me from comparing average of a decade with a single year. We do it eveytime. Don't you compare a stock's past 52 week range with how it is performing today (Day traders know better)? Having said that, lets not get involved in a point, that doesn't reprsent the gist of the claim I was making. |
| bardan | Posted
on 26-Apr-04 05:37 PM
comparing statistics does not give the a clear picture.there may have been some progress during the 1990's ,but unfortunately the progress was so mimimal and so we have a insurgency fueled by social and economic reasons. |
| Ashley | Posted
on 26-Apr-04 05:55 PM
I think through that we are perplexing the issue here. I pick out the topic as “values of a explicit caste”. What morals we are tittle-tattling here? I dated a thakuri girl..so? Then the approach they gamble and their family affairs? Whats that got to do with a rendezvous? Went out with the thakuri girl or the whole family? Really, ha! Gambling-a chunk of life? That’s over and above of sweeping statement. Ancestory? Every caste hold dear it in their unequivocal way. Other caste keeping to Rana-Shah trend? They follow vogue of other classes too ( many youngster like to speak in Darjeleeng’s slang). Elite class? How did it all make them elite? There were good rana-shah rulers who soared the throne and given discernible accountability of a King too. Some of the King had remained ostensible head of the country. Squandering power, anyone (Shah/Rana /Bahun/Chetri) will not shilly-shally to bountifully spend money for him and his acquaintances. MY point is, there is exquisiteness in each class’s life style, be it elite or the pits. THAKURIS shouldn’t be always the target of racial blunders! Ashley! |
| Zombie | Posted
on 26-Apr-04 06:42 PM
Agree with Ashley and DWI. :-) |
| mirador | Posted
on 27-Apr-04 11:39 AM
i think the nyt article said it best. quoting a nepali woman "this king says he believes in 21st century and democracy but acts like a medieval one" -- or something like that. somebody remind him of what happens to medieval ass*holes quick! |