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| anti_monarqi | Posted
on 28-Apr-04 09:30 AM
Once again I can say with pride I am Nepali. Once again I can say students of Nepal have vision for Nepal. They can put Nepal in 21st century. While we Nepalese who live in the USA and enjoy freedom but most of we don’t hesitate to suggest our Nepalese brother and sister in Nepal that “is it not time for democracy equal right basic freedom”. Some of Nepali who has kids here (USA) we talk with pride and say " hey I have kids who can be US president” and at the same time we tell our Nepalese brothers and sisters back in Nepal their kids never be going be head of state of Nepal.. I wish we could show some moral support to those brave student who wants to put Nepal in 21st century. I am totally agree with those Nepalese who believe that monarchy system is out dated and it should be replaced with presidential system with multi parties. So for me it is insane to accept any one as head of state because he/she comes from certain clan of family. Only elected person has right to be head of state and only the people of Nepal have right to vote for head of state. At last I want to have right to vote for head of state my choice. And billons of people have that right and Nepalese should have that right too if we went to enter in 21st century. I oppose both monarchy and mao. For me mao and monarchy of nepal are two side of one coin. Republican democracy Jindabad, long live democracy. |
| anti_monarqi | Posted
on 28-Apr-04 09:48 AM
my email address is anti_monarchy@hotmail.com |
| anti-monarchy | Posted
on 28-Apr-04 06:18 PM
yes friend salute to those brave students who are trying to bring down currupt monarchy system and set up republican democracy. I am with you friend so let say "down with killer mao and currupt monarchy" |
| anti_monarqi | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 06:44 PM
I want to thanks all of you who viewed my article. I am in that country where I can write anything without a fear. I know lots of Nepalese who are in Nepal, can’t express their view. It is even harder to express their views if it is directed toward none elected self proclaimed leader. I think I would never be able to accept anyone as my country leaders, if he/she is not elected by people. It seems I am just talking about the monarchy system but I oppose Maos in same token. If fact I oppose any system or any person who dun respect basic right of human being. I have been told by people that Nepal is not ready for democracy because we have massive illiteracy. Well I have just one question to those “what did monarchy system do for 250 year”, if we still talking about poverty and illiteracy instead of modern technology in 21st century. If a system can’t give basic education to its people in 250 years that system has to go no but and ifs. On top of that, in 21st century is insane to accept anyone as head of state because he/she comes from certain clan or family. anti_monarchy@hotmail.com |
| Bramha | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 07:18 PM
STFU! I really don't know for sure what it means-:) Peace! |
| yOuNgBlOoDz | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 08:35 PM
salure my arse..... what good has they done?????? except destoryin their own freakin poperty.. mofo's don't care to build it.. but when sumone gives em a signal.. they r too quick to take their arse to destruct it.. salute my arse.. fag arse so-called-student-leaders... yb |
| kreep | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 08:50 PM
I walk the streets of ktm where the so called andolan kaari shout out "GYANE CHOR DESH CHOD" and police don't do anything.. I have seen it with my eyes... so SHOVE THAT "YOU CAN'T EXPRESS YOURSELF IN NEPAL" up your @ss. Today 3 adhakshyas of KTM KRITIPUR and LALITPUR are to be arrested.. not that they want to .. but that's what the party leader has told them to do.. am writing it beforehand.. you can read it in the news tomorrow. |
| anti_monarqi | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 09:39 PM
well that is good news that people can say "gyane chore desh chod". I am glad that students have pushed that far. when a person spends 142 millons to buy 3 cars with a people money very recenty. that is surely chori. By the way same peson had spent 87 millons to buy two cars two years ago. this is chori too when a newly born grad son gets 12.5 laks per year from nepali people while millons of nepali kids go hungry. And those hungry kids parents are forced to pay that supper rich dad's kid. So infact is not just chori it should called daka.Becasue only dakas force people to pay for their benifit |
| dyamn | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 09:44 PM
so called student leaders are real thug mofos..they run thier dirty politics in colleges like Sankerdev, ratna rajya, trichandra , public youth, etc campuses...they have made the public education a joke. They should be banned from doing politics in the campuses... If some student is disqualified in the admission or too late for admission, these suckers give them admissions with thier connections to those bad apples so they'll fight and throw stones for them, they are run by dirty politicans- with money, yup, dirty politicians give them money to go to protest and election and stuff... Gagan thapa, is a chor.. i've raised in the TC area.. i've played basketball for years in TC and sanker dev and i 've seen these chamchay politician in the colleges and the thugs supporting them.. All the dillibazars' thugs, run the sanker dev campus. If someone even looks at them and he's not from dillibazar he gets beat up like you will see no where such cruelty..same with Trichandara campus, they are run by chakrapath's thugs... if anything goes wrong the big daddys from chakrapath come with scords.. and chase people in the day light.. these mofo sutnet politicans are just doing andolan and all shitnz cuz they want quick money and easy power just like thier role models like Girija and Govenday. they have ablosultely no concern or love towards country, or student's issue.. they have don't nothing significant in imporving the quality of education or leading country towards where we all want to see... most of these losers politicans are the college drop outs and supported by thier corrupted daddy- politicans and local thugs.. these mofos have no love for thier country thats why they can throw stones and destroy nepali properties... Anti -Monarch my azzz.. monarchy is not an option , it's the only solution for Nepali mess- at least for few years... we need to have even stronger person or a party taking contol and disciplining the chors.. democray only works on check and balance, in Nepali it's a loot... we need the King to take care of the situation for few years... or until there are significant signs that Nepal is not going to be more mess witht he same power and money hungry wolves that are roaming around in the streets of kathmandu.... |
| kreep | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 10:19 PM
Everyone is talking about the 3 cars.. but where are THE CARS??? |
| selfexplorer | Posted
on 30-Apr-04 11:14 AM
The more you supress a human, the more trouble is the outcome. |
| anti_monarqi | Posted
on 02-May-04 08:09 AM
This is democracy.Because you all able to say anything you want. You all falking filth and want me to belive you are better then those students who are protesting. At least they are taking police betting and you all siting behnd computer and saying nasty thing about me. MONRCHY IS NOT SOLUATION OF NEPAL IF IS THE BIGGEST PROBLE OF NEPAL. AFTER 250 YEARS OF STEADY AND PEACEFUL RULE IF A SYSTEM CANN'T GIVE BASIC EDUCATION TO IT IS PEOPLE THAT SYSTEM BELONGS TO BOTTOM OF TRASH CAN. some on ask where is news about three cars read the March 17th 2004 nepalnews.com anywhy I have posted that news year so u call read thanks anti_monarchy@hotmail.com 'Poll budget diverted to meet security expenses' The government has diverted the budgetary fund, set aside for the elections, to strengthening the Royal Nepali Army (RNA), meeting extra expenses for the royal palace, and other expenses, according to The Kathmandu Post. "In the budget for the current fiscal year, government has approved Rs. 1.68 billion for the elections of the House of Representatives," the daily said Wednesday. "Of the total amount, Rs. 1.2 billion has been used for non-budgetary expenses and other commitments." The daily, quoting an unnamed government source, said Rs. 910 million (over 75 percent of the total commitment and disbursement) has gone for the modernization of the RNA, of which, Rs. 350 million has already been disbursed. Likewise, Rs. 142 million has gone to the palace to purchase three new luxury car, it added. "The palace had also obtained Rs. 87 million two years ago to buy similar cars." "Both of these expenses are on top of the budgeted expenditure of Rs. 7.78 billion for the RNA and Rs. 329 million for the palace provisioned in the current fiscal year." The largest chunk of the unplanned expenditure, the daily said, will go in financing a project that is aimed at enhancing its technological capability. The ongoing RNA project is focused mainly on improving its aerial surveillance and delivery, which is estimated to cost Rs. 600 million, the daily further said. nepalnews.com mr Mar 17 04 |
| anti_monarqi | Posted
on 02-May-04 08:37 AM
SOME CORRECTIONS SORRY FOR TYPING MISTAKE This is democracy. So you all are able to say anything you want. You all are talking filth and want me to believe you are better then those students who are protesting. At least they are taking police beating and you all sitting behind computer and saying nasty thing about me. MONARCHY SYSTEMN IS NOT SOLUATION OF NEPAL IF IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM OF NEPAL. AFTER 250 YEARS OF STEADY AND PEACEFUL RULE IF A SYSTEM CANN'T GIVE A BASIC EDUCATION TO ITS PEOPLE, THAT SYSTEM BELONGS TO BOTTOM OF TRASH CAN. Some on ask where is news about three cars read the March 17th 2004 nepalnews.com anyway I have posted that news year so u call read thanks anti_monarchy@hotmail.com 'Poll budget diverted to meet security expenses' The government has diverted the budgetary fund, set aside for the elections, to strengthening the Royal Nepali Army (RNA), meeting extra expenses for the royal palace, and other expenses, according to The Kathmandu Post. "In the budget for the current fiscal year, government has approved Rs. 1.68 billion for the elections of the House of Representatives," the daily said Wednesday. "Of the total amount, Rs. 1.2 billion has been used for non-budgetary expenses and other commitments." The daily, quoting an unnamed government source, said Rs. 910 million (over 75 percent of the total commitment and disbursement) has gone for the modernization of the RNA, of which, Rs. 350 million has already been disbursed. Likewise, Rs. 142 million has gone to the palace to purchase three new luxury car, it added. "The palace had also obtained Rs. 87 million two years ago to buy similar cars." "Both of these expenses are on top of the budgeted expenditure of Rs. 7.78 billion for the RNA and Rs. 329 million for the palace provisioned in the current fiscal year." The largest chunk of the unplanned expenditure, the daily said, will go in financing a project that is aimed at enhancing its technological capability. The ongoing RNA project is focused mainly on improving its aerial surveillance and delivery, which is estimated to cost Rs. 600 million, the daily further said. nepalnews.com mr Mar 17 04 |
| pravaran | Posted
on 02-May-04 02:46 PM
I read ur posting.. Pretty interesting and nice use of words.. just i wish u could have done a better job at using ur writing skills on a better topic that has some dumb justification over a vandalizing rally all over the city that led to teh distruction of a lot of public and government property that we nepali payed tazes for.. I dont know bout u if u pay taxes or not for nepal but for those who do, its a costly afair.. And at the time when we have a possibility of a civil war, how can teh students stage protests and create more havoc than there already is.. isnt teh last 10 yrs enough evidence that nepal isnt as yet ready for a democracy.. not until we have more educated ppl and better politically aware and well educated political leaders.. Do u even have any idea how many students are being stopped from gettin better education because of this protests.. U have any idea how many businesses are loosing lakhs every day coz of this protest.. do u even see the damage to teh tourism in nepal.. Its easy to live in US and comment about stuffs.. Face the hardship urself and then u will know whats right and whats wrong.. Everything has a certain time for action and teh current actions are mistimed and more damaging than helpful.. Also Look at these student leaders.. How well educated do u considered these overly active, party payed loyals .. They dont even look like students.. Probably more like a Bunch of over grown misfits who did nothin but protest and vandalize their whole lifetime for the sake of money and power and fame.. Thats teh route politicians take to become good leaders.. Disrupt college when in college and then move up to become a prodigy of Mr. Nepal or Mr. Girija.. The students are the future and have showed their concern. But take into consideration the harm they are causin to local businesses, society and other students..For most students its just an escuse to cut college and hail stones.. There is a difference between democracy and stupidity.. Hope u see that now |
| anti_monarqi | Posted
on 02-May-04 05:20 PM
Pravaran Thanks for not being nasty to me. Well I also oppose any kind of destruction. If we started examine who did what. I believe 250 years of steady rule of monarchy system is to be blame for everything. When people of the USA, India, France and other countries were fighting for independence, equal right and freedom, there were people in those countries who blame those fighters for destruction. But imagine what would happened if fighters had listen to those people who opposed for change during that time. Change is not easy and smooth. Some time changes could be bring worst situation then before. But it has proven over time democracy brings positive change. Just look and compare between India and Pakistan. India is one of the donor country of Nepal and where as Pakistan’s budget depends on USA donation. When Pritivi Naryan was busy cutting his own people nose and ears USA was not even independent. No other group challenged shah dynasty as far as I know. So if they have paid attention to Nepal and Nepali we Nepalese might be talking about modern technology today. We might be asking ourselves how we could contribute to eliminate world hunger then asking money from other countries to pay royal budget. In fact I would challenge any one to compare any country of the world which has 250 years of steady and peaceful rule like Nepal and see where that country is and where is Nepal. In fact I don’t care what had happened in the past. I look for the future. And I come to know that we all families are equal. I have problem accept any one as head of state who is not elected. Even if king was god I would opposed it. I am firm believer on democracy equal right and justice. So no one should be above the law. If king or any person wants to serve Nepal but doesn’t want to face election he /she should work as social worker under new president of Nepal. I know nepal very well. Cause i was born there. i was born one of remote area of nepal. I am not one of those who didn't have to work during college education. |
| An Indun Poet | Posted
on 02-May-04 05:30 PM
Salute to the Students. The Royal Arses have to go. They have been sucking blood for more than 200 years. Did you hear about the fight between King Gyanendra and Prince Paras. Its interesting they had fight over which agent to use when purchasing the army helicopters. Father overruled, so Prince Paras got mad and went to hiding in Jhapa. King Gyane worried about his probable fate (Paras turning into Dipendra like) went with his wife to get Paras and his wife back home. And bunch of Royal Asswipes say the Politicians are corrupt. Why don't you answer 61 crore of annual Royal budget, 15 crores of luxury cars and this scuffle between Bau-Chora for agency commission.... Lets kick these blood-suckers out of the country forever........ |
| eminem8 | Posted
on 02-May-04 06:12 PM
This is bullshit. I definitely dont agree that the monarchy as of lately have been doing any good to the country. I mean, a guy who has killed people off the streets and gone unpunished will be king soon. That is definitely a desirable situation. I also believe in the rights to vote, and the freedom of speech. But, lets look back for a moment here, the past 10 years. We practically had democracy, the king had given up all but military power, which at that point, we didnt need. What did we do with the right to vote ........... ??? We over and over and over and over and over (it disgusts me) elected the same 'politician', yes i mention it inside quotes because .......... first i do not think they had any talent to run the country, which was ok, becuase we all have to learn someplace, and we were just starting. But the thing that sucked was they had no intention to run the country. Their only intention was to make themselves rich beyond their own imaginations. I have seen, em i have known em. And, hold on, the worst part is yet to come............... we elected them once, they screwed it up, got into fights as to who would take all the money.......... and we freaking go ahead and RE-ELECT them............... the whole same bunch. Why, dont ask me, maybe cause we thought they would work to our benifits (which is hilarious), or because ............ we didnt understand the "sense of democrary"..... Why, did we people repeat the same mistakes three times over the 10 years ??????????? One cannot help but question our maturity for such a power as democracy. The country went downhill ............ and some more. And we people started wishing the King would do something ............. i am sure everybody at some point went, "ooo god we need someone", and thought of the king. The same king, mind you, we had wanted killed and out of the country and what not. Now, the king dies, and we flock the streets, beating our chests............. the same students who had shouted "bire chor desh chod"., shaved their heads and cried a river. And mind you, these are the same students who were more than eager to participate hundreds of the nepal bandhs throughout democracy, we had democracy and these "students" were still burning public property. The king took over, we were positive, and again ........... this uproar. I am pretty sure if you go out on the street and ask one of these "brave students", what they are doing this for, he wouldnt be able to give you a satisfactory answer. Even if he gives you one, ask him the reason for all the bandhs back when we HAD democracy. The problem is not stupid students, the problem is huge, ranging from our whole history of remaining under someone else up until this "democracy", to the lack of jobs in the country and our social tradition to label jobs as good and bad. Now, I am not taking the side of the palace, i truly believe that we poor janatas are just feeding them ........... for not a lot of reason, and the palace itself is not really interested in the country, ofcourse it would help them to have a peaceful country, but ....... they are not gonna be murdered anytime soon, so they are pretty contend inside the palace. Now, if we had a republic, who the hell would lead us, girija or some old bastard who has either already completely lost his mind, or some greedy mofo who doesnt care about anything else but how much goes into his international account. After these 10 years, i do not trust these netas to give me a blowjob, much less running my country. OOOOO those maoists ............. they are the worst. They lie and cheat everytime possible, all their public announcements are the same, they get mad at everyone who so much as retaliates, they think they are the scum of the earth and do not leave any brutal word from the dictionary, but they themselves go around killing innocent helpless people, who believes on somethnig else......... that bastard of a doctor does not have an ounce of integrity left in him ............ how can he come around and make these statements that ................ hilarious, like the one he made about the american embassdor. He was accusing him of things he clearly has committed himself. Anyways, In short, I do not see the solution in any of the three corners of the power triangle in Nepal. All of them are just as bad ............. and as history shows are imcompetent to run the country. "Come you masters of war, you that build all the guns ........... you that hide behind the desks .......................... I hope you die, and that death'll come to you soon I'll stand by your grave till im sure that you're dead" Bob Dylan - Masters of Wars "Mankind needs to put an end to war or war will put an end to mankind" JFK "Cant we just settle this over a pint?????" (I hope we could.......... thatll be an end to wars) Shrek- Peace........ Shady |
| anti_monarqi | Posted
on 02-May-04 07:03 PM
Friends believe me I wouldn't vote for Girija, king , Madav or Baburam. In democratic system you don’t know who would be next head of state. It is not monarchy system so you know in advance who would be head of state. But I would put Picture of any one above if he/she wins the popular vote to be head of state. The reason I dun vote current leaders because they can’t go beyond constitutional monarchy system. I can’t vote Baburam because he is too busy killing innocent people. And I know you all are smart but I guess you miss the point. “In 21st, FOR ME IT IS INSANE TO ACCEPT ANY ONE AS HEAD OF STATE BECAUSE HE/SHE COMES FROM CERTAIN clan OF FAMILY.” As far as corruption goes here is my reading. Nepal has two types of looters. One is chors other is daka like Indian movies. The politicians are chors who steal and take bribe like common thieves and monarchy is like daka he gets what he demands. It is easy to control chors because they are scared with people where as people are scared with daka. If a politician get caught stealing he/she might have to pay back or go to jail or would loose election but what can you do when monarchy increases his budget 37 crods 79 laks from 11 crods. And it is not fair to compare 10 year with 250 years. At least 10 years of democracy gave right to talk like this. Give 25 years to democracy then see. If after 25 years of democracy dun work then I would be the first person to question about democracy. Anti_monarchy@hotmail.com |
| Prem Charo | Posted
on 02-May-04 07:35 PM
anti_monarqi, I just have a question for you: What is the present problem of Nepal ? Maobadi or King ?? Don't you think all parties have to be together to eliminate Maobadi first ?? Then after King ?? All these ghusyaha leaders are jealous of present government because the opposition party has regime. Anti monarqi is not the solution for present situation, the main problem is maobadi. Deshvakta Charo : Prem Charo :) Hawaii |
| An Indun Poet | Posted
on 03-May-04 02:59 AM
Royal Charo: 1st Explain 67 Crore Budget Increase by Your Royal Highness-- Is that any better than Ghussiya Politicians 2nd How about that 15 crore Luxury Car 3rd How about this inside scoop- the duel between your Big Bishnu Avtaar and Junior Bishnu Avtaar. Do you have any answer-- No!! Royal Charo, The Monarchy has to go, there is no place for it. They have sucked enough blood out of Nepali for too long. |
| kusume rumal | Posted
on 03-May-04 06:15 AM
Guys dont you think the main problem here is to resolve the problem by any means.. the problem of innocent people suffering from this power struggle. At one point, it was the question of a bigger picture, protection of so called democracy, freedom to speech and like wise.. but now the biggest and the only question is of survival, identity and existence of Nepal and the poor nepalis. If I for a moment just b a homeless pennyless nepali from Achham and the places ruined by these disputes, what do you think will be important for me? democracy? freedom of speech? I think not. the only question for me now will be how to survive.. how to have a roof over my head. how to get food. We are living abroad here in a relatively safer quarters, so we might have a very different approach to the whole situation with a lot of knowledge from the world's history, modern settlement, modern thoughts but those who are there right now coping the whole war with bellies starving, no roofs over their heads and no security of the lives of their loved ones and theirs, I imagine all these other things vanish and exist no more for them. I couldnt agree more with you Antimonarqi and Poet when you say tht how can we see the future of our country in the bloody hands of the present Prince. However, I have to totally go with Eminem when I say that perhaps, its not the right time for them leaders to start the political riot now. What the country needs now is peace, for her children have suffered enough. Are they really thinking about their country, when these students are out on the street destroying public and government properties? Who lose the most? Its us, isnt it? Anti show us one good leader that can lead us to a state of peace and economic development at this stage and I swear I will rise against any odd, stop my studies and go back to nepal to support him whole heartedly even if it might not matter. Dont imagine things to change overnight with one magical word ' Democracy'. Nepal with its limited resources is not in a stage to fight two wars at once. Its such a beautiful small country. Lets fight one war at a time, the biggest threat to our existence is right now maoism as Eminem said. Lets eliminate that problem somehow with the least violence and then deal with this dispute of power. This is not the time to distract the government from its goal, dont you think? why would you want to increase the suffering of those innocent people in villages and remote places ? the more you distract the government forces, the more chances are given to Maos to reinforce in all the ways possible. As a result, more abductions, more killings, robberies, loots, horror of living in the whole thing. So Anti your opinion and feelings for the country is pure and very appreciative but its not the right time for the movement in my opinion. All we need is peace and safety for the sake of those who suffer. We do need to look for the bigger picture but sometime in doing so we ignore those minute things that makes the bigger picture beautiful and worthwhile. Forgive me for my ignorance on the subject, for I am no scholar or a person with lot of knowledge on this subject. I write as I feel for my fellow nepalis. I write as I imagine the pain and horror that they must be going through right now every day. I try to be in their shoes, I try to feel their pain but I cant in its full magnitude. Whatever I am able to percieve however is enough for me to think that right now all we need is peace and safety. The rest can follow after that. mayalu ko anshu puchhne Kusume rumal |
| An Indun Poet | Posted
on 03-May-04 07:06 AM
Leaders will emerge.......... |
| anti_monarqi | Posted
on 03-May-04 07:37 AM
Well peace very interesting word. We all want peace we all want crime free society. For me what kind of peace would be acceptable? I agree with you we had peace during the Panchyat time. There was peace because every one was fearful. Everyone suspect everyone to being secret agent of the government. There was killing but no news papers dear to publish. Some of killings done by government were in Ramilo Jhoda and Okheldunga. There might be more killing but we dun know. There was rape and kidnap again those were not reported if it tried to blame on royals or high power family members. Perhaps most of people at the time might have heard about Namita and Sunita case. We weren’t even free to read what was written in foreign news paper about our royal. People had to go to jail and lost job because they had read one new saying that late crown prince was drunk in some party while he was studying in UK. That was printed some UK news paper. My point is the peace we had in past was artificial. I bet Mao affected area must be peaceful too cause no one dare to oppose Mao. We are not animals we need more then just eating and mating. We want right to express our views. And we have seen what had happened to countries where peace was imposed with fear. What happened to former Soviet Union and darling of none aliment movement marshal Tito. Yugoslavia couldn’t remain one country after Tito death. Well I was asked who would be good leader to lead. And again I dun know but anyone would be better who is elected by people then none elected so called head of state. I believe JOGI wouldn’t want to be leader. So we are people who have power to make leaders work hard for Nepal. We have the most powerful weapons to punish those leaders, who don’t listen to people’s concern. That power is voting power. |
| anti_monarqi | Posted
on 03-May-04 07:49 AM
It was proven when there is democracy extreme form of government take very little. Organizations like Mao and Taliban perform well under dictatorship well. So I believe once we establish presidential system Mao problem would subside. I also believe this king has learned from his dad too. Communists helped late king Mahendra to get rid of democracy in 2017 and now Mao is helping this king to kill so called limited democracy. That is why I believe Mao and Monarchy are two side of one coin so we have to get rid of both of them. anti_monarchy@hotmail.com |
| anti-monarchy | Posted
on 03-May-04 08:09 PM
Good posting anti_monarqi. Monarchy system has to go. So say "hey hey ho ho time for Mao and monarchy to go". |