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| HahooGuru | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 08:20 AM
Successful Nepali: How do you define it? Last year, I post a list of successful Nepalis in Japan. Several Sajhaities blasted my list. After staying here almost a year, I can realize why were they so furious over my posting. Now, I want to re-search what are the criterias to define a successful Nepali in USA? Successful Nepali in USA from the perspective of a middle class Nepali living in Nepal could be like: 1. Having ownership on house. Unfotunately, buying a house in USA is not dream stuff, because if you don't have credit card and paid house rent, water bill, electricity bill and telephone bill on time, you can buy house anywhere in usa. So, this criteria fails to call successful guy. 2. Political arena: none of asians seems to have any influential role in this country. So, politically no one (=Nepali) is going to be successful. 3. Economically: this could be good judgement. I had seen only one family who honestly returned to Nepal who has huge prospectus in this country too and was holding executive position. Sudha Shah like Nepalis are very very few. Very difficult to count. In this sense, will a Nepali be successful who is not layed off i.e. fotunate to avoid getting fired? 4. Education: Most of the Sajhaities don't like this criteria. But, Edcuation is and should be a real criteria for success in this century. This is the first criteria to judge, I guess. Sorry, for those who's don't have good education and lingering here in Sajha.com and be ready to fire on me.... Well, even Donald Trump gave a reason to Troy why is he going to say "you are fired" on Troy, because he lacked education when compared to Kwame Jackson. When Trump fired nick and ami i.e. while squeezing his 4 applicants to 2, the reason they lacked was good education and because of that the executives in Trump world said nick and ami lacked enough knowledge. In this country, education really pays you back. Thats why education should really be counted as a measure of success in this country, at least. 5. Job: what kind of job you hold can be another measure of level of success you hold. 6. Family: do you have family? Is your relation with your spouse stable? Are your kids doing well in education and daily life? 7. Salary: In this capitalistic country, what matters is whether you have money? Money is number one measure, I guess among middle class peoples. 8. Social Status: many Nepalis here suffer attention syndrome. To get good attention, they try to engage in one or other "association", "petition" ..... ANA ANMA AMNA .... whatever you call, these are just places to show off "Hey, am I not better off". ............ Good Day to you all. HG: re-incarnation in USA. |
| Suna | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 09:51 AM
HG Success like beauty: is in the eyes of the beholder! |
| Hellbound | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 10:12 AM
HahooGuru, re-incarnated soul. Welcome back:) Successful Nepali in the US: In theory, one is called successful when he/she achieves all needs of life: self-esteem, cognitive, aesthetic, self-actualization, and transcendence. No need to talk about biological, physiological, belonging, and love as Maslow's Hierarchy describes. It’s almost impossible to a Nepali person in the US, who is qualified for all these levels. However, I think most of the Nepali—lower or middle class— in the US are able to get to the fourth level of hierarchy, where they’re esteemed of having good job, good education, fancy car, beautiful house, furniture, fashion clothes, drinks, lifestyle products, and services. Now, are they successful? Yes, if they are happy with what are doing and what they have achieved until now… The point I am making here is—no matter what level they’re in, if they’re enjoying life to fullest ( not doping or drinking or clubbing), then they’re successful. Getting educated in the US and returning Nepal doesn’t necessarily make you a successful person, neither does your PhD degree. It has been our culture that our society determines your success. But, afterall, you know what you are, and you know what you have achieved in life. If you're self-satisfied with what you've achieved until now, you're the most successful person. |
| Hellbound | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 10:14 AM
**It’s almost impossible for a Nepali person in the US to qualify for all these level of needs. |
| Jay | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 10:21 AM
Hahooguru, I remember that list. Since you lived here almost a year now, can you tell why people blast your list.? You said you understood why they blasted at your list. If my memory serves me correctly then you didn't specify your criteria for coming to that list. Correct me if this is true? I think one reason (among many) why they blasted at you is your blanket assertion then that all people here are dishwasher which I am sure now you realize not all people are dishwashers. Again 'success' is a term which may vary from people to people. Not that I disagree with your criteria, in general sense they are practical and almost comprehensive. But one thing we need to understand these criteria or any criteria is not enough to guage one's succcess. About how one's background, upbringing, interest, circumstances and many more... |
| Garibjanata | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 10:27 AM
Hahooguru, I feel sorry for you, you have still not grown up. Change your name to hawapuche, it suits you, aptly. |
| MillionDollars | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 10:49 AM
Dhakre Hahooguru, How would this list be different for different Nationalities ? I dont get your bloody point ... |
| cool_keta | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 10:57 AM
TO be a pimp. |
| Jhapali | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 11:40 AM
nice to see hahooguru back on sajha. |
| the other one | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 11:58 AM
The most: Successful Nepali Succeful person from Bagmati successul Jhapali successful person from my town From my Ward # From my Kul gharan From my family within my brothers.... The point is... Whats the freaking point???????????????????????? |
| dyamn | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 02:58 PM
ya, why do you care? areyou doing a research or somthing? or just a time pass.. why not just go kill some flies? bull shit.. |
| kalebhut | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 04:33 PM
To get to land in America for a nepali is a success in itself. So guru you are successful in a way. For those who have already landed, a success may be different to the ones who are back in Nepal. For an undergraduate nepali student in US – it is his/her graduation. Getting a well-paid job after graduation is another success when almost all nepalis resort to the same menial job that he/she will again work his way through another post graduate degree. If someone gets a nice job after graduation, the success then depends on his/her materialistic acquisitions and possessions. For some, success lies on his/her obligations and duties for a society. This may be the reason why some people are politically inclined who perceives success in a presidential run. Some become engineers and doctors because it’s a success. For a nepali immigrant working as a dishwasher, the title of a cook may seem like a dream come true. This is also a success. To date an American blonde may be a success for some nepali hunks. Someone may have dreams to reach the top of statue of liberty which is also a success if this dream comes true. so its all success success just my view. |
| vivashme | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 04:42 PM
Previous discussion on this topic: http://www.sajha.com/archives/openthread.cfm?threadid=3686&dsn=sajhaarchive |
| HahooGuru | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 06:10 PM
In one's own Personal level, those peoples are successful who are happy with what they are doing. I think in others perspective Suna's statements gives quite satisfactory one line answer: abstract. Keep on rolling. Rest later. HG |
| kalebhut | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 06:40 PM
For some nepalis from villages in Nepal, success depends on the number of cattle he owns. The more the livestock the more successful he is as to wealth and his status quo. In some places in Dolpo and Humla, a man with the highest number of wives is the most successful man. The higher the number of mistresses he has the more successful and powerful he is among the folks. The more promiscuous and a Don Juan the man is the more renowned he is among the townsfolk and villagers. In contrary, these things don’t apply to women. They are given bad names as boksis and randis. It is because the more coquettish and adulterer these women are the less successful they are in our society and in matrimonial affairs. How ironic!! There are many ways on how we can define the success of a person. This all for now. Keep it coming. asta la vista |
| hamisabai | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 06:47 PM
Haaaaa chiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu i consider myself successful if i manage to take a shower once in three days. |
| meera | Posted
on 29-Apr-04 06:51 PM
Me was suprised as to why mah socks was smelling sooooooo bad, its actually HamiSabai's smell. Uta basa, ganayo, chyaaaaaaaaa :-) |
| Prem Charo | Posted
on 30-Apr-04 10:51 PM
Hahoo Guru, Welcome back. I am really glad to see you back in this forum. You shouldn't have disappear like that, just because of somebody's stupid bashing. yes, all these guys who blabber around Sajha from the US are failed to achieve success. I agree with you. Without education, nobody is successful. All these guys are envy of your achievement and education. I think u are one the most successful person. I always admire u. You should come back with your real identity, rather than GP. And, do not wonder around "Sajha person of the year". The answer is simply Prem Charo. Sajha person of the year = Prem Charo |
| Riten | Posted
on 01-May-04 06:07 AM
Hahubahun, I thought you were shamed out of Sajha last year. But I see you are back with your asinine posts. And your English has not improved much either. Do yourself and the world a favor, stay in the well you are croaking from. Don't come out! |
| Arnico | Posted
on 01-May-04 07:35 AM
Hahoo ji, welcome back. Riten, the aninosity you display suggests that perhaps you might be out of place here. Meera, it may have been my socks :( |
| Beau | Posted
on 01-May-04 07:54 AM
.Does money/wealth shows how succesful one is? I don't think so. Pondering some thought>> Does grade shows the intelligence? An old English proverb - Early bird catches the early worm, innit? what if you are the early worm? Success is the state of mind. Liberate the soul, my fellow sajhabasi! ;) |
| chubby_cheeks | Posted
on 01-May-04 09:06 AM
hellbound...did u or do u take psychology?? |
| confused | Posted
on 01-May-04 03:54 PM
Samrat Upadhay and Dr. Upendra Devkota...:) |
| Biswo | Posted
on 01-May-04 04:06 PM
I have always referred to Emerson's following quote to define a successful person. "To laugh often and much; To win the respect of intelligent people and the affection of children; To earn the appreciation of honest critics and endure the betrayal of false friends;To appreciate beauty, to find the best in others;To leave the world a bit better, whether by a healthy child, a garden patch or a redeemed social condition;To know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived.This is to have succeeded." Hence, the more money you can earn the better. The more intellect you can accumulate, the beter. But there is no need to overstretch yourself for being labelled successful. As long as you don't harm others, and as long as you feel that there is at least one life that has breathed easier because of you, you are successful. Let's live in peace and be happy with this knowledge:-) |
| ScreamNation | Posted
on 04-May-04 08:43 PM
-=-= Successful Person in Nepal =-=- Person who can buy a cigerette and drink with his own earned money is SUCCESSFUL. - thanks :) |
| KaLaNkIsThAn | Posted
on 04-May-04 08:52 PM
Successful? eh.. yo Hahoo Guru baa, how are you? Long time ... no see... Tyo purano topic feri revive dyaa ki kyaa ho? Hmmm.. Successful Nepali? Who else but Kalankisthan... (me me)!! I work till I ache my bones, I do dishwashing successfully and I just got $0.25 raise (under table) and above all I am Nepali, wanna see my Nepali Nakrikta ko pramanpatra ko sakkal-bamojimko-nakkal copy? Bho, dekhaunna, eh.. feri all the girls might go "oooh byaabi" over Kalanki ko kaalo pahade topi!! I look like gangsta in that topi.. hehe.. ekdum Neta jasto!! (Yea yea neta = gangsta... don't you know?!! ) Katti pyaar pyaar, okay, laterz folks, double finals tomorrow... :( Either Kalanki mai saves me or chandra ko bau Indra! Hahoo guru le sharapne hola aba!! MOLAI!!! :( |
| Manas1u | Posted
on 05-May-04 01:13 PM
what is success? I don't think you can measure success by how much money one has ..etc .. etc.. i think the way you live your life is more important than being successful.. if you are happy with your life, hey then what does anything else matter? |
| saroj | Posted
on 05-May-04 01:24 PM
Biswo Ji, I think the same quote was quoted by Ashu some time back regarding being successful too. Kudos to both of you for sharing that. |
| Biswo | Posted
on 06-May-04 10:14 AM
Saroj: Long ago, Ashu posted the quote here. May be more than three years ago. We even had a small discussion about which Emerson first said that. The definition of success there is really appealing. It is so simple, so easy to achieve, and yet is so neat. Success is in being a good person. The rest is how much further you can go along that way. Glad you liked the quote. I read about Emerson later, and wow, the man's bittersweet relationship with Harvard, and his prescient philosophical views were really amazing. |
| rauniyar | Posted
on 06-May-04 10:24 AM
Biswo ji, success is nothing but 7-letter word that every human beings will have to decide for themselves. Reality is relative more so in this modern day and age. But then Emerson makes some sense, figuratively speaking!!! Uhi Rajeev, CT, Amrika |