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| Kale_Ko_Chartikala | Posted
on 05-May-04 06:21 AM
I got this from a friend of mine. Enjoy and think about it. --------------- goes like this ----------------------------------- Let us consider Nepal a human body. The monarchy of nepal is an appendix of the body. It has no significant function and it is not necessary for a body. Should the appendix be removed, the body functioning will not be hampered and it operates as naturally as it operates with the appendix. However in normal situation we don't remove the appendix. Why? Because for this one has to undergo operation, the doctor is required, money is required, and there is small risk of the wound being infected. So, the point is in the case of normalcy we should not opt for an operation to remove the appendix though it has no any importance to our body (if you guys have seen any positive role of the appendix or in our case the monarchy in last couple of hundred years pls let me know. I would be grateful to you). Now the question is: do we have our appendix normal? NO. The appendix is not only abnormal but it had developed tumors and it is now in the chronic stage. I will explain below its development pattern and its negative impact in the body. The appendix was not that bad in the early stages (i am saying so as i haven't studied much of the historiography prior to the rana regime) however since some last 150 years the appendix developed a tumor (read ranas; and remember these are the offshoots of the same appendix ie the shahs). With this tumor of the appendix, the body became sort of defunct. Its progress retarted. The resources, the energy of the body were sucked in by these two. Result: the body become so weak, malnourished-- like the body of a boy you see of an ethiopean in the pictures. In 1950 the tumor was removed by an operation called saat salko kranti. Only tumor was removed because people didnot till then know that the appendix is an useless part of the body. Though the tumor was removed the body was still weak and vulnerable and also there were its offshoots which couldnot be removed. within some time the appendix again started to hamper in the functioning of the body. By 1960s the appendix was developed into a cancer—fulfledged. This no need to say took the body into same position as it was in pre 1950 stage; even worse, to be precise. In 1990 through the jana andolan we performed a chemotherapy/radiotherapy to contain the inflamation of the appendix (how fool we were!). This for the time being put a halt in the functioing of the appendix. Then after the other body parts (read the political parties) started to function. But since they were not been able to function in the past, self correcting antibodies/mechanisms were deficient in these organs. Result was that they could not function well even after the chemo in 1990. And the foods that the body would take had impurities in them (read the impurities as the inability of the civil society and so called intelligentia having no idea and no attempt in checking the malfunctioning of these body parts). Though the chemo was performed in the appendix but since it was a fulfledged cancer it was natural that it would again start growing. However nobody noticed the regeneration of the cancer and after some time it started to engulf one of the part of the body (read the maoists party). Though the important organisms had started producing antibodies or self correcting mechanisms (eg different acts; also remember here that more than 75 perecent of the MPs of 2051-56 vs lost in the election of 56) the process was slow; deformitites were numerous. And on top of that the appendix again had started hampering in the functioning of the body and it had helped in formation of tumor (or is it cancer?) in another body part (maoists taking arms). The cumulative effect is: in 2004 the body is nearly disfunctional. The appendix having the final stage cancer and another primitive stage cancer of a body part is lethal to the body. The body is dying and demands immediate intervention. Now we have to decide what to do. My prescription is to perform an operation (ie andolan) to remove the appendix from the body and also perform a chemotherapy/radiotherapy to contain the cancer of the other body part. Do you guys still want the appendix with the final stage cancer still be remained in the body? i know some of you guys would still opt for the chemo ie in containing the appendix but till when? how long will it take you guys to join my side ie the "OPERATION REMOVE APPENDIX") This idea is in the formative stage. So will be happy if you all could share your ideas on this analysis. |
| Biswo | Posted
on 06-May-04 10:08 AM
Is it true that even in normal situation, the doctors recommend that appendix be removed? At least,from what I've heard, if you are having surgery in your abdominal area, doctors voluntarily remove the appendix anyway thesedays. oohi: "watched how painful appendix pain could be when a neighbor of mine had problems regarding it" :-) Biswo |
| oys_chill | Posted
on 06-May-04 10:21 AM
Oh well, but to remove an appendix, you need the right time and place. You wouldn't just operate on a person to remove appendix, just for the heck of it. Yes, when the person undergoes other surgeries, appendix removal comes as an option. At the same time, you wouldn't want to be operated by "aire gaire" . You want to be treated by the most qualified surgeon don't you? and another important issue you definitely want to consider is you don't want to have many "expert" surgeons operating on the same body to remove one appendix. Every surgeon has his own routine and protocol though their primary objective may be the same. Then operation itself is a risk. So many things can go wrong. A simple contamination on surgical instruments can cause fatal infections. and you know these bacteria divide by binary fission and form millions within a short period of time forming gangrene and what not. And the only option left would be to remove the entire organ and part of the body required for daily needs. That would suck too wouldn't it? At the present moment, I see more chance of contaminants, and at modern times, many strains of pathogenic virus and bacteria have been identified that are resistant to most antibiotics we have at our disposal. Above all, I don't see a single Qualified Surgeon. And appendix is out of context at the present situation. We need to find the cure for hemophilia this body is suffering first...this is more fatal and requires immediate solution:) |
| rauniyar | Posted
on 06-May-04 10:27 AM
Oys_Chilli and Biswo ji, yeah appendix is a vestigial organ. You remove em when it becomes cumbersome. You keep em until it is worth keepin. Don't fix it if it ain't broken. Tara, Chilli ji makes a middle-path statement as opposed to Biswo ji who goes extreme (at least sub-consciously) on this topic every now and then. Uhi Rajeev, CT, Rajeev |
| Biswo | Posted
on 06-May-04 10:29 AM
I agree with you Oys. There is no doubt a fear of contamination is always there, and we want the best surgeon, a trained surgeon who knows what he is doing, to operate on the patient. May be we can find a surgeon who can take care of both hemophilia and appendix simultaneously. If you are treating hemophilia, let's chuck that appendix out too. Once you cut open the abdomen, it is always good to get rid of any unwanted organ inside. I mean why open again and again? :-) |
| asian_boy | Posted
on 06-May-04 07:45 PM
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| Epitome | Posted
on 07-May-04 12:18 AM
Kale, you seems to be a student of Science (Biology), but with whatever leaft of my biological studies during school days. They say the apendix is the site for local immune system of the guts, and hence apendix swelling, and pain is an idication that there is problem in our gut, that is intended to nourish and provide energy to the whole body. Here, the gut is the political leadership that has got infected, resulting in overactivity of the apendix to contain any serious damage to the gut and the body. In this sincere effort, it itself is being inflamed and at risk of being thrown out. But mind you apendix can go, but with it will go the countering effect of the immune system of the gut, that checks and maintains the gut in a harmonious state of physiological function, your gut will never be the same and a weak gut wll never be able to keep the body healthy. Sorry, with background in aeronotics, biology is not my area of strength, but if someone finds me wrong then read the message intended. |
| oys_chill | Posted
on 07-May-04 06:14 AM
It could have come as a BLOODY COINCIDENCE, but Just couldn't help writing! When I got back to my apartment yesterday, one of my roommates asked if I had noticed anything wrong the previous day. Before I could question him, he raised his shirt and showed me a bandaged portion of his belly. "I had appendicitis..., got operated yesterday" (couldn't help thinking about this thread!) It was not the surgery that baffled me but within a day he was able to walk around like a normal person. I remmeber back in school when my friend got operated to remove appendix, he missed class for a month. WALLA! There lies the biggest difference. In our haste to remove the appendix, it might take ages to recover. Again, my roommate was treated by the finest surgeon. Sadly, we still lack that in our body :( So in the meantime, I'd like to keep my appendix and concentrate on hemophilia, cause hemophilia is not only fatal but also genetic giving rise to generations of vengeance, and biswo dai, when a person is suffering from hemophilia, opening up the body is out of context. WE've to prevent the loss of blood flow, for even a tiny "accidental" prick can have severe consequences! I asked my roommate "why don't you rest? you just had a surgery." "No man, I really need weed...ITs been frigging tow days" :-) |
| Kale_Ko_Chartikala | Posted
on 07-May-04 06:37 AM
Oys! Love you man! What an insight!! I recommend Oys for the new PM of Nepal. Let me repeat I recommend Oys for the new PM of Nepal. I recommend Oys for the new PM of Nepal. I recommend Oys for the new PM of Nepal. I am dead serious here. OK. What we need is people like you as PM - who understands the stake of removing the appendicitis and is ready to do so if needed and if done properly. Your 2 posts from above is all, I think, Nepali people need to understand in terms of republic vs. monarchy. ----------- abt hemophilia --- To Biswo: Why did you bring the "Hemophilia" up? I don't quite get it. Did you mentioned it simply as another problem to compare with appendicitis? Are you familiar with it? Oys, you are certainly familiar with it, I got it from you answer. Both of you please visit http://saveonelifeinc.org if you are interested, there are few kids with hemophilia from Nepal (under sponsor link) - http://saveonelifeinc.org/presearch.asp ------- now let's back to appendicitis ----------- |
| Biswo | Posted
on 07-May-04 11:12 AM
Oys bhai, mero mistake. Maile haemophilia maa operation gardainan bhanne thaahaa paayeko thiina. I am not familiar with that disease. Yep, that was interesting coincidence. But see , your friend just had appendix removed! Kale, I am not familiar with the disease. Oys brought it up. But I am glad now that I know some more about this disease. Are you working on this field? |
| Kale_Ko_Chartikala | Posted
on 07-May-04 12:25 PM
Biswo and Oys: Actually, in developed countries, they can operate on a person with hemophilia by providing enough clotting factor before the procedure. It is only in countries like Nepal where the only option is to Ram Nam Japne. Still operation is always risky for such person. Yeap! I am involved with this organization Save One Life which sponsors kids from developing countries who have bleeding disorder. Just sponsored 5 kids from Nepal. Let's not get into those details here 'cause it would be a wrong thread. I will start a new thread on that chapter later (and also publish an article on TND). >>>> Let's get back to the appendicitis issue - the main issue of this thread <<<< |
| oys_chill | Posted
on 07-May-04 12:52 PM
Oh its kale_ko_chartikala DAI po :O I didn't know hemophilia was that prevalent in developing countries. I would have liked to contribute, but I am involved in something slightly different. Actually, i wanted to talk to a person like you about this project having seen my seniors do it so well. So yeso call garum hai? My number is going to change soon....loo ta.. PM of Nepal? hahah...if giving insight alone could make one a PM of a nation...guess where we all will be? :) |
| Kale_Ko_Chartikala | Posted
on 10-May-04 09:19 AM
Oys Bro: Barbad! Lost your num! satta ekchoti email maru na hai. |