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| Paagal | Posted
on 06-May-04 04:26 AM
All of you guys, where are you? Has your boss been able to do anything so far ?? What will he be able to do except enjoy addiction of power? I hardly see anything he will do because I can't even name a single praiseworthy thing that royals have done to remember - from the period of Prithvi Narayan to Gyanendra Narayan. All nepalis are jokers, fast asleep like Khumbakarnaa!!! Ha, ha, ha, Hum to Paagal hoon na at least....Tum log to dead ho!!! |
| thaag | Posted
on 06-May-04 06:28 AM
Gyane = NERO Nepal is burning and Gyane is smiling........ He sees his future in this chaos, Maoshits are already wasted, Neta's of these currupt party's are worthless ediots... So..... Gyane is smiling.........seeing his future in Nepal's ash.. |
| anti_monarqi | Posted
on 06-May-04 06:42 AM
Yes what the monarchy system has done in 250 years of peaceful and steady rule. Yes tell me gyane supporters why do we need monarchy? Just give me on valid reason. If gyane and his forefathers had paid attention to Nepal and Nepali we might be talking about how to help to reduce global hunger then begging money with other countries so gyane could buy 3 luxury cars and pay his huge royal salaries Down with currupt monarchy and killer mao |
| DWI | Posted
on 06-May-04 07:53 AM
We have had enough discussion on this and I don't want to get defensive on the king and all, but when you raise above questions, please ponder upon these points: 1. Maoist Insurgency and other problems started during Multiparty Democracy. The king had next to nothing power at that time. 2. Current problem is Maoist Insurgency. 5 parties are giving the priority to 're-claiming' of power than solution of the insurgency (which they never were able to achieve during their reign) because of the obvious reasons. 3. Removing the King is not the absolute solution right now. |
| anti_monarqi | Posted
on 06-May-04 08:17 AM
The biggest problem of Nepal is Monarchy. Mao was there during pancyat system. Have you ever heard 5th and 6th convention? 6th convention changed into Mao after we got so called limited democracy in 1990. It has been proven communist work for king. In 2017 with communist support this king’s dad killed democracy. Now this Mao friend of king helping king to kill so called democracy. So if we eliminate monarchy system Mao would disappear. All most all countries have Mao but it very effected in Nepal because they have friend in palace. |
| anti_monarqi | Posted
on 06-May-04 08:18 AM
The biggest problem of Nepal is Monarchy. Mao was there during pancyat system. Have you ever heard 5th and 6th convention? 6th convention changed into Mao after we got so called limited democracy in 1990. It has been proven communist work for king. In 2017 with communist support this king’s dad killed democracy. Now this Mao friend of king helping king to kill so called democracy. So if we eliminate monarchy system Mao would disappear. All most all countries have Mao but it very effected in Nepal because they have friend in palace. anti_monarchy@hotmail.com |
| mildseven | Posted
on 06-May-04 08:41 AM
This is very interesting, can you please explain a few points in more detaill. No pun intended, I would really like to know more. Mao was there during pancyat system. You mean maoists? I didnt know this. where were they and how do u know? Have you ever heard 5th and 6th convention? not really. what were they about? 6th convention changed into Mao i dont get this either It has been proven communist work for king. In 2017 with communist support this king’s dad killed democracy. WHat kind of support was it eactly? |
| Paagal | Posted
on 06-May-04 10:45 AM
SAATHI HO ... NEPALI BEER HARU HO... GYANEY BHAKTA HARU HO ! SAGARMATHA KO DESH NEPAL HO. GORKHALI BHANYO KI SARAA LE THOOR THOOR MUTCHAA. TYASAILE TA HUGGIES BANAUNU PARYO ARU HARU LE. SAGARMATHA LE GARDA HAAMI BISWO KO SABAI DESH HARU BHANDA AAKAASH KO NAJEEK CHHA. AAKAASH MATALAAB SWARGAA.. TYASAILE HAWAAA BESKANA KHAAU. SAGARMATHA KO CHISO BHANDA CHISO HAWALE PANI HAMRO NINDRAA LAI BIGARNA SAKDAINA, YO GAURAB KO KURA HOO! HOINA TA? |
| DWI | Posted
on 06-May-04 11:12 AM
MERO PAAGAL SAATHI HO TUMBA ALI KUM KHANU PARYO HO Sorry couldn't resist. Bottom line is, we will keep on arguing and the country is not going to move anywhere. All I can do is wish that we get a good leader who can assemble all loose factor and involve those elements into betterment of Nepal. |
| Poonte | Posted
on 06-May-04 01:00 PM
"Maoist Insurgency and other problems started during Multiparty Democracy. The king had next to nothing power at that time." DWI, With all due respect... First of all, what Nepal had in the 1990's was NOT democracy -- with the King and his family above the law, and the King having absolute authority over the RNA, is hardly a sign of true democracy. Furthermore, democracy is not only about "free this" or "free that" -- it's about equal and ample opportunity to ALL of it's citizens, which was not the case in Nepal's history at the end of the last century. Equality, BOTH in terms of opportunity AND respect was all but non-existent in Nepal's case. Apart from the few urban areas, much of Nepal lived under not only abject poverty but were utterly neglected. Secondly, I find myself awed with disbelief when someone claims that the King had next to nothing power during the 1990's. As mentioned above, having the absolute authority over the RNA and being considered above the law by the constitution, I think the King could not have had anything less than real power at the time. Finally, to blame the so-called "democracy" for the Maoist problem just because the insurgency started in the 1990's is a misnomer. I believe Maoist insurgency was a direct result of utter neglect of the Nepalis, other than the ruling class and/or those belonging to the higher castes, by the 30 years of Panchayat rule. The fact that culture based on hierarchy, which promoted prejudice based on casteism and social classification, was introduced and systamaized in Nepal by the authoritarian rulers, the Ranas and the Shah dysnasties; coupled with the fact that the vast majority of the Nepalis were bitterly suppressed and were taught only propaganda, had already planted the seeds of insurgency many years before 1996, the year the insurgency took a violent turn. By not letting the people enjoy freedom and practice righteous values of democracy, the Panchayat era created generations of Nepalis hopelessly unprepared for the little "freedom" that they got in the last decade or so. These so-called "educated" mass, therefore, as a direct result of suppression and deprivation under the Panchayat era, knew nothing better than to resort to violence when it came to making choices. I personally DO NOT subscribe to republican agenda either. I think we do need the monarchy for the sake of maintaining unity among the numerous ethinic groups that Nepal shelters. However, a GENUINE Constitutional Monarchy, where even the King himself would be answerable to the laws of the land, and where the elected civillian leader would hold the key to the RNA, is what I deem necessary for the betterment of 20 million plus Nepali lives. |
| DWI | Posted
on 06-May-04 02:09 PM
Poonte, Valid points but very arguable. What you are referring to Democracy is either Communism or a utopian model. You are blaming the ineptitude of our 'democratic' leader on the Late King. The king wasn't holding anything off from the Leaders and believe me, RNA COAS was under the King, but was hardly utilized by the King against the leaders or the public, during his reign. Deployment of RNA on Maoist was a decision from the Ruling Government. As far as the maoist insurgency is concerned, we can have a long debate on this. In short, I might support the formalization of maoist force, but cannot support the route Maoists are taking. You can have million reasons to justify why Maoists were made but none to show me the reason that the condition that Nepal is going through is a deservant one. We weren't supposed to suffer what we are suffering now, for no matter how big of a reason. |
| dyamn | Posted
on 06-May-04 04:55 PM
.. i would have said: invalid points - very arguable.. |
| Prem Charo | Posted
on 06-May-04 06:54 PM
Are you talking about our King ? Here is the pic 
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| asian_boy | Posted
on 06-May-04 07:46 PM
hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| suripyari | Posted
on 06-May-04 07:57 PM
I remember Kisunji promisng, " Nepali lai Singapore jasto banauchu." After he became PM, " Kathandubasi lai pani le vijauchu." All god damn promises and what we got- chaos. Girja uses anyone to get PM sit. So what does that tells, we got a wrong leaders. Now we got another roudy group demanding republic. May be they have not seen the worst yet. If I am not mistaken Girja govt even took the responsibility of creating Mao problem and it is during their tenure that whole things went out of control. Again, you want to support the same people and party. You gotta be kidding. What people dont realize is majority jantas are looking for just peace and stability. They dont care who rules as long as their is peace and hope. May be as citizen, we are used to broken promises of chor netas and their supporters. But this time, I am not going to let anyone do that. I am gonna support Gyanendra and he deserves at least the opportunity. My only concern is King G is not acting fast enough. |
| cool_keta | Posted
on 06-May-04 08:01 PM
wtf is this guy doing? I go to nepalnews and see all our netas being arrested and hosting aggressive protests but he is busy cutting ribbons on opening aniversaries, visiting places etc. Is being king really is that easy? |
| anti_monarqi | Posted
on 07-May-04 07:50 AM
In 2017 when this king dad overthrew elected government promising he would held election. Only one communist lead at that time didn’t believe on his so he had to spent rest of his life in exile. That person was Pupal Lal. But other communist leaders lived in Nepal for while cause they believed in king. That is why I was saying that communist helped king to killed democracy in 2017. As far as Mao there were there before 1990 too. Mohann birkram group. Before 1990 they didn’t call themselves MAO. In 2036 this Mohan Birkam group( who become Mao after 1990) and Mohan Chandra( 5th convention ) group opposed referendum saying “ Janmat dhoka ho” so they boycott referendum . And they knew that would help panchyat system. Mao took advantage of democracy. Like how now Mao oppose India but take Indian democracy to hide there I wonder why dun they hide in china. anti_monarchy@hotmail.com |