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   Words not enough to describe how I feel 12-May-04 nescient
     Good Job girl. 12-May-04 Chanke
       nescient...really good one there..if u h 12-May-04 dananah
         The course of true love never did run sm 12-May-04 nescient
           nescient ma smooth gardinchu hehe..false 12-May-04 dananah
             False love and break my heart? 12-May-04 nescient
               nescient u want it to run smooth..or rou 12-May-04 dananah
                 Nice one Nescient, but does unconditiona 12-May-04 meera
                   Meera: Isn't this love an uncontional on 12-May-04 nescient
                     unconditional love is the love of your m 12-May-04 dyamn
                       I second Dyamn. Here is a condition tho 12-May-04 meera
                         Dyamn: Can't one person love another per 12-May-04 nescient
                           Dananah: Of course I want it to run it s 12-May-04 nescient
                             Someone DO answer my second query, pleas 12-May-04 meera
                               where is the lop?? where is the lop?? n 12-May-04 dananah
                                 Dananah: You TRIED to make sense but 12-May-04 nescient
                                   Meera: First instinct when your life is 12-May-04 nescient
                                     meeru piru's question: Here is a conditi 12-May-04 dyamn
                                       Hell both Nenscient and Dyamn gave such 12-May-04 meera
talking about unconditional love: here's 12-May-04 dyamn
   nescient..bombastic word nachalau...ma b 12-May-04 dananah
     Meera:Maybe after you have a child?Maybe 12-May-04 nescient
       Agree with Dyaamn Bahadur! Like Krish 12-May-04 oys_chill
         Oys: What if we don't really care if the 12-May-04 nescient
           neiscient, ( sorry to cut your oys)... 12-May-04 dyamn
             Dyamn: OCD not correct.Why?OBESSED the k 12-May-04 nescient
               hahahahah.... good one . i like spicy gi 12-May-04 dyamn
                 Dananah: I was calling you from my cell 12-May-04 nescient
                   "ifs" and "Buts" :) life would be a fair 13-May-04 oys_chill
                     Dyamn: Thank you!!Your physican seems to 13-May-04 nescient
                       your obssession and your depression Can 13-May-04 dyamn
                         yo you check this scenerio, Dr Dyamn's c 13-May-04 dyamn
                           Dear Dr.Dyamn, I took the injection tha 13-May-04 nescient
                             oh shit... i forgot to say : beware of D 13-May-04 dyamn
                               Forgot to tell me??Or just trying to cov 13-May-04 nescient
                                 ya whatever, from my side it's the end o 13-May-04 dyamn
                                   nescient..GRRRRRR!!! (will explain the 13-May-04 dananah
                                     Dyamn and Dananah both pissed off at me? 13-May-04 nescient
                                       phone ma guff sakkiyo ^ ko? aba sajha ma 13-May-04 nipplemonkey
Nipplemonkey: Sssshhhhhh....(you know wh 13-May-04 nescient
   shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 13-May-04 CRUSADER
     has has. ma chup lagera basula. feri dui 14-May-04 nipplemonkey
       nescient i want to meet u personally :-) 14-May-04 angel
         OH I SEE .............i See who nescient 14-May-04 oys_chill
           Oys: You must be mistaken :) 14-May-04 nescient
             me pissed??when ..:D anyways who is nes 15-May-04 Dananah
               <b><font color=blue>nascient cant be son 15-May-04 ordinaryboy
                 Here's what i think..... Her obssessi 15-May-04 dyamn
                   Crusader:mum is the word. Angel:Who kno 16-May-04 nescient
                     wow nescient. when and how?? 16-May-04 angel
                       Love can be categorised into Romantic, P 17-May-04 OU812
                         It's better to be an authentic loser tha 17-May-04 nescient


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nescient Posted on 12-May-04 03:41 PM

Words not enough to describe how I feel about you
"Title" not there to tell anyone what our relationship is all about
Universe not so big to fell the pain I have in me

"This is not right.Move on.He is not yours.You will hurt yourself"
Everyone says
But my dear loved ones
It doesn't matter if I can't be with him
It doesn't matter if the world thinks I am crazy
It doesn't matter if he doesn't feel the way I do
He is not a treasure and I am not a pirate
Neither I am trying to steal him from anyone nor am I trying to possess him as my possession
He is just somone I love?

I did not plan to fall in love?
I did not think it would go this far
"Carried away" they say
No "love?" I say

Once again my heart aches
Once again I am in pain
But I know....there is nothing i can do and there is nothing you can do
It is too early to tell
And am waiting for that "time"

For sometime I thought it was all perfect
For sometime I thought it was all right
Until she reclaimed your heart
And took you away from my sight

Now I am trying to recover
Now I am trying to survive
Now I am trying to pull away
Now I am trying to convience myself "it is okay"

We have something pure and true
That no one can have
And I only hope things will work out
But,my love,whatever happens I will love you forever
My feelings will never change
Maybe this is what "unconditional love" is all about?
Chanke Posted on 12-May-04 04:04 PM

Good Job girl.
dananah Posted on 12-May-04 04:30 PM

nescient...really good one there..if u had wrote that for me(or lied to me that u wrote that for me..) i would have dumped whgoever was with me..for u..;)
9so wanna start lying to me??:P)

dun worry..u find another one who will feel the same way as u..:D..(is it me..ur looking for??:P)..

keep on writing..(for me ;)..:P)

cheers..:D
nescient Posted on 12-May-04 04:37 PM

The course of true love never did run smooth.
~William Shakespeare
dananah Posted on 12-May-04 04:42 PM

nescient ma smooth gardinchu hehe..false lop garchu huncha..:P

nescient Posted on 12-May-04 04:49 PM

False love and break my heart?
dananah Posted on 12-May-04 05:15 PM

nescient u want it to run smooth..or rough?? its ur choice..:P
dun regret it later..;)....broken hearts can be mended..with lop..:D...is there siuch thing as false lop?? lop is universal...only the degreee varies..really really low degree of lop is called false lop i guess...but there is still some lop there ;)...(better than nothing right..??:P)

anyways take ur time to make up ur mind and reply..:D
btw did i mention?? nice poem ;) hehe

cheers..:D
meera Posted on 12-May-04 05:36 PM

Nice one Nescient, but does unconditional love exist???
nescient Posted on 12-May-04 05:51 PM

Meera: Isn't this love an uncontional one?No matter what happens [I] will love you forever?Even if they can't be together?
dyamn Posted on 12-May-04 06:00 PM

unconditional love is the love of your mother or father who will love with with out any conditions with out any expectations.. all other lops are based on expectations and greed ...
meera Posted on 12-May-04 06:06 PM

I second Dyamn.
Here is a condition though, when a house is in fire its the mother who runs out first and then makes sure her child is safe. She might sacrifice her life to save her child but the instinct is that its her first. So where is love in all this???
nescient Posted on 12-May-04 06:08 PM

Dyamn: Can't one person love another person w/o any expectation or greed?Does uncontional love only applies to ones parents?Can't agree!!
nescient Posted on 12-May-04 06:15 PM

Dananah: Of course I want it to run it smooth but life is not bed of roses now,is it?Broken hearts can be mended but the scar will always be there.I would rather not have any "lop" than have some false one where I know oneday soon I am going to have my heart broken again.Why give your own self a heartattack?

So ONLY IF you want to LOVE the REAL LOVE :)
Now,am waiting anxiously for your answer :P
meera Posted on 12-May-04 06:21 PM

Someone DO answer my second query, pleaseeeeeeeeeee
Wanna hear people's opinion on this!
dananah Posted on 12-May-04 06:39 PM

where is the lop?? where is the lop??
nescient waiting for my asn rey??(im getting abit paagal here but will try to talk sensible here..;)..be sensible to a sensible woman my mum said..:D.nah my mum didnt say that..i jsut made that up...actually i didnt make that up..i think i heard it from somewhere...there goes the cat out of the bag..:P.)

well u said it right...life is not a bed of rosed..:D..so u have to expect to get some scars(its better not too..but well its part and parcel of life..:S ost ppl definley will experience it..:S lucky few might not....hope ur one of those..but then reading ur poems...well...seems like u have gotten hurt really bad..:S)...but thik about it..when u have scars..u will start to appreciate lop when u get one..:D..look towards the future...u never know whats waiting at the corner for u..maybe ahuge.good surprise..u knwo about the pandoras box??hehe if the gal(forgot her name) hadnt dared to open the box..after realising all the hurt etc...she wouldnt have realeased hope..:D..hope saved us all..and it wills ave u too..:D..just have hope ;)..ii do ;)..

i dunno about real lop..cos hehe i kinda stopped believing in it..;)..(ma pheri paagal boyo jasto cha hehe)...well but i have hope..so..:D...so lets see what the future has for me ;)...heart attack lai laat mara..;)

hope this is a ans ur looking for from me..;) hehe

cheers..:D
(ps waiting for any more quesitons..that is if u have any..:P)
nescient Posted on 12-May-04 07:18 PM

Dananah:

You TRIED to make sense but alas in vain!!And now it's my turn to try and be coquettish.I don't know about sensible,if I am one or no.Would a sensible woman be falling for a man who has a new girl in his life?Would a sensible woman be intentionally breaking her heart?Giving it a pain?Sayin "oh I love him unconditionally?" Maybe not sensible but too sensitive?

Instead of aprreciating "lop",tendency of losing faith?Just like you?Yes,never know what is standing at the future door of mine.But for now,I am waiting with a rose in my hand for you ringing your door bell *tring* *Tring* "is anybody home?"
nescient Posted on 12-May-04 07:20 PM

Meera: First instinct when your life is in danger?To save your own life.Who would risk one's own life for someone?A person who truly loves you.If risking your one and only life and putting it in so much danger is not a proof of love then what is?
dyamn Posted on 12-May-04 07:31 PM

meeru piru's question: Here is a condition though, when a house is in fire its the mother who runs out first and then makes sure her child is safe. She might sacrifice her life to save her child but the instinct is that its her first. So where is love in all this???

>>> i think it depends on who the mother is . Of course , if it's a psyco mother who accidently gave birth cuz she forgot to cross her legs while she was high on drugs- type of mom, (did i spell tht right?) then she might drown her baby in a bath tub too.
However, i would say that MOST mothers would look for her child first and worry about thier child's safety first than running away from such situation to save her life.

Here are the reason why i believe that mother's love is unconditional:

a) if you find your boy/girl ugly , unattractive , poor or impotent or someting like that you will lose interest on him/her.
Mother: will always love her child.No matter how poor her son/daughter is , how ugly her son/daughter is - she will always lover him/her.

b) You were attracted with your partner because you liked some things about your partner in the first place ; money, power, height, body, phormones, performance, you name it...
>> your mother loves you because she loves you; unconditional- no conditions.....

c) If you find a richer, nicer, better, healther person than your partner- possibilities are that you will go for that person. I know , some will agure with me at this point cuz partner- love which you're feeling right now is emotiona and make takes away your rationality, but over the time you will realize that this is the reality....

>> if your mom finds a richer, nicer, healther, someone's else son- she will not replace your status....

hence, mother = unconditional and loper = conditional.....

hajur ko bhakta,
Dyamn bahadur....

meera Posted on 12-May-04 07:41 PM

Hell both Nenscient and Dyamn gave such good answers that I don't know what to say.

However I stil feel that people love themsleves first then comes their child (social
psychology prof. told us and I agree with him!!!!)

I love Dyamn's description of psycho mom, hehe, that was way too hilarious but a bitter truth too.
dyamn Posted on 12-May-04 07:43 PM

talking about unconditional love: here's 2 pac

Come listen to my truest thoughts, my truest feelings
All my peers doing years beyond drug dealing
How many caskets can we witness
Before we see it's hard to live
This life without God, so we must ask forgiveness
Ask mama why God deserved to die
Witness the tears falling free from my eyes
Before she could reply
Though we were born without a silver spoon
My broken down TV, show cartoons in my living room (hey)
One day I hope to make it
A player in this game
Mama don't cry, long as we try
Maybe things change
Perhaps it's just a fantasy
A life where we don't need no welfare
Shit with our whole family
Maybe it's me that caused it
The fighting and the hurting
In my room crying cause I didn't want to be a burden
Watch mama open up her arms to hugging
And I ain't worried bout a damn thang, with unconditionl love

dananah Posted on 12-May-04 07:51 PM

nescient..bombastic word nachalau...ma bujha..get life...hehe...:P

ur sensible..too sensible..;)
dhoka mah belll rey?? lah jhan ramro..laia kniock garnu maan lagna..:P

*presses the doorbell*

)))))RIIIIIIIIIIIIG!!(((((((((((((((

))))))))))))))RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN!!(((((((((((((

)))))))))))))))))))))))RINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG!!(((((((((((((((

kaha haraya cha??:S...
:P

anyways gotta leave now..u know why ;)..:P
later..:D

nescient Posted on 12-May-04 07:51 PM

Meera:Maybe after you have a child?Maybe after you love someone no matter what and infront of that person your life doesn't mean/worth too much to you.Cause you can't imagine your life without that person?Maybe after you fall in love,love someone unconditionally?Maybe??You will change your mind??And life is bitter truth,just gotta find humor in it.
oys_chill Posted on 12-May-04 08:37 PM

Agree with Dyaamn Bahadur!

Like Krishna says in Mahabharat, Only Maami's Love is Unconditional!

Others...hmmm! the very fact that we want someone else to love us unconditionally is conditional :)
nescient Posted on 12-May-04 09:11 PM

Oys: What if we don't really care if the other person loves your or not(and want nothing from him/her,no expectation,no promises,nothing) but you love that person?Now,will that be unconditional love?
dyamn Posted on 12-May-04 09:18 PM

neiscient, ( sorry to cut your oys)...
that would be the case of OCD; obssessive-compulsive-disorder.... :)... zoloft 10 or projac might help but side effects include ; diarreah, impotence, headaches, pain in the neck and pain in the budget......
for details - talk to your physican ....

heeehe
;)
nescient Posted on 12-May-04 09:57 PM

Dyamn: OCD not correct.Why?OBESSED the key word,as one has to be obessed with that person and want that person at any cost,but not in this case.Just loving someone and not wanting anything from that person in return?Can't be OCD now,can it?I think it's the more production of dopamine in the brain so maybe some Shiva's prasad is the remedy?:)

And as you seem to know the side effects of Prozac/Zoloft so well,I was wondering if I can have the number for your physician.Mine doesn't seem to be too good :)
dyamn Posted on 12-May-04 10:09 PM

hahahahah.... good one . i like spicy girls like you.. however in the above scenerio, being obssed on ' unconditional lope' from the same person is the obssession ... ;)
my physican's number is : 1800dyamntool or email him at : fixmedyamn@dyamntool.com.





ps: that was a great poem up there :) i liked it a lot; good job :)

best wishes,
Dyamn...
nescient Posted on 12-May-04 11:24 PM

Dananah: I was calling you from my cell phone to ask you direction for your home.So instead of opening the door,try answering the phone."Bombastic" word rey?Dananah,I am the ignorant one so how can I say/do anything bombastic? :)
oys_chill Posted on 13-May-04 01:46 AM

"ifs" and "Buts" :) life would be a fairy tale!
nescient Posted on 13-May-04 11:00 AM

Dyamn: Thank you!!Your physican seems to be a much better one than mine.First time I went to see him,I went "DYAMN!!" Maybe now I will stop obsessing about him (and start obsessing about you??).

My Obsession is now turning into agression
As no longer can I have you for my possession
To you let me make a confession
W/o you, more and more I am getting into depression
dyamn Posted on 13-May-04 12:45 PM

your obssession and your depression
Can be cured by only one physician
who else, but DR. Dyamn
who can only give your desired satisfaction
to your sexual frustration ;)
...... opps sorry sorry - I meant to say - "obssession".


dyamn Posted on 13-May-04 01:08 PM

yo you check this scenerio, Dr Dyamn's calculation
Dr Dyamn: baby doll, after doing your examination
i've come to this conclusion
that you need a good medication
May I suggest Dyamn Injection????

It's strong, realiable, offordable, guranteed satisfaction
will certainly meet your expectation
to cure your obssession
so don't waste time , and call 1800dyaminjection ;)



nescient Posted on 13-May-04 01:51 PM

Dear Dr.Dyamn,
I took the injection that you had given it to me.But something seems to be wrong with the product.You had said that it was going to be strong,but it was too weak for me.Realiable,not really cause after few seconds the medicine wore off.Affordable,well it was for free so it was indeed affordable. Last but not least it had guranteed satisfaction,it guranteed my satisfaction to get another medicine and to seek another physician.Maybe next doctor will certainly meet my expectation? :)
dyamn Posted on 13-May-04 01:58 PM

oh shit... i forgot to say : beware of DUPLICATION
baby doll, what u got is the fake dyamn injection
if you had the right injection , you would be coming here with gratification
so next time buy directly from Dr. Dyamn and you'll see the magic of dyamn injection.

thanks in advance for your consideration,
Dyamn bahadur and Accociation(dyamn injection)
nescient Posted on 13-May-04 08:44 PM

Forgot to tell me??Or just trying to cover up your good for nothing Dyamn injection??:) But yes I tried the ORIGINAL magical (it was less of magical and more of tragical) material too,instead of getting over obsession it left a bittersweet taste in my mouth :) Gratification maybe not but repulsion more of the type :)

dyamn Posted on 13-May-04 09:20 PM

ya whatever, from my side it's the end of discussion...
dananah Posted on 13-May-04 09:27 PM

nescient..GRRRRRR!!!
(will explain the grrr later hehe)
sorr ifor trying to knock on ur door..guess there was some miscommunications there.:S...but i thought i surprise u so i went over to ur place...early too...but alas...no one opened the door...waited for hrs..:S...guess whats meant to be is meant to be..

anyways i guess..u were busy calling dyam'sl physician...not me..:S..thats why i dun have any missed calls in my mobile...LIAR!!
and since u lied to me(look at the above line for proof..:P)..u expect me to believe..ur the ignorant one as what ur name implies??( fool me once...im a fool..fool me twice...im off to someone who doesnt ignore me ;)..:P)..
so kay ho..ho rista pani Khattam??u tell me..(i have alredy broken one rista...hehe..)
la me going...u telling..:P

fool...:D
nescient Posted on 13-May-04 09:43 PM

Dyamn and Dananah both pissed off at me??
Wonder why??
nipplemonkey Posted on 13-May-04 09:47 PM

phone ma guff sakkiyo ^ ko? aba sajha ma post?
nescient Posted on 13-May-04 10:53 PM

Nipplemonkey: Sssshhhhhh....(you know what I am saying??)
CRUSADER Posted on 13-May-04 11:16 PM

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
nipplemonkey Posted on 14-May-04 08:37 AM

has has. ma chup lagera basula. feri dui jana le malai chut na aaula
angel Posted on 14-May-04 12:39 PM

nescient i want to meet u personally :-)
oys_chill Posted on 14-May-04 12:56 PM

OH I SEE .............i See who nescient is now :) should've realized long ago!

Nescient, u write better than you talk trash :) (compliment it is )
nescient Posted on 14-May-04 01:06 PM

Oys: You must be mistaken :)
Dananah Posted on 15-May-04 05:58 AM

me pissed??when ..:D
anyways who is nescient Oys..tell me too..;)
dun tell me nescient =Sonika_NY??:P
or is it??:|


cheers..:D
ordinaryboy Posted on 15-May-04 11:45 AM

nascient cant be sonika_ny . I'm saying this because nascient unconditional love doesnt seem like sonika_ny's hunk (remember the hunk) HAHA.... lol.....

back to main point.

so nascient u say its unconditional love. may i ask you a question. so why would u be knocking his doors to give him a rose.....?? Doesnt this mean that you are expecting him to accept your flower or in other words your "unconditional love" .... So well its just my perception, you are in expectations........... as i said just my perception..

what do ya ppl think?
dyamn Posted on 15-May-04 02:26 PM

Here's what i think.....

Her obssession and her depression
Can be cured by only one physician
who else, but DR. Dyamn
who can only give her desired satisfaction
to cure her sexual frustration ;)
...... opps sorry sorry - I meant to say - "obssession".


yo yo check this scenerio, Dr Dyamn's calculation
Dr Dyamn: baby doll, after doing your examination
i've come to this conclusion
that you need a good medication
May I suggest Dyamn Injection????

It's strong, realiable, offordable, guranteed satisfaction
will certainly meet your expectation
to cure your obssession
so don't waste time , and call 1800dyaminjection ;)


give it some good consideration...

nescient Posted on 16-May-04 01:23 AM

Crusader:mum is the word.
Angel:Who knows maybe you have,maybe you will meet me personally??
Dananah: I don't think you know me.
Ordinaryboy:The rose was for dananah as a joke!!
Dyamn:I thought it was en end of discussion??
angel Posted on 16-May-04 10:47 AM

wow nescient. when and how??
OU812 Posted on 17-May-04 03:49 AM

Love can be categorised into Romantic, Plutonic and Familial.

Unconditional love in Romantic relationship is for insecure suckers. Prolly with history of being a serial dumpee.

Plutonic = some sort of volcanic rock.
"Man and woman can't be friends coz sex always pops in between" - Gospel according to Harry

Familial - Unconditional love does exist, but with loads of permutation and combination.

Love is overrated. I'd blame in on preteen females, who read way too much Mills & Boons.

Disclaimer: Freshly imported Martian thinking cap talking.
nescient Posted on 17-May-04 12:57 PM

It's better to be an authentic loser than a false
success, and to die alive than to live dead.
~ William Markiewicz ~

There are many kinds of love REY:
1)Nonlove
2)Liking
3)Infatuated Love
4)Empty Love
5)Sexual Love
6)Platonic Love
7)Frienship love
8)Romantic Love
9)Puppy Love
10)Companionate Love
11)Passionate Love
12)Fatuous Love
13)Committed Love
14)Consummate Love
15)Unconditional Love/True Love

Love is much like a wild rose, beautiful and calm,
but willing to draw blood in its defense.
~ Mark Overby