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| P. THAPA |
Posted
on 15-Aug-01 02:03 AM
PLEASE VISIT FOLLOWING WEB SITE FOR YOUR DREAM HOUSE
IN NEPAL:
"http://www.skywebbiz.com/businessnp/houseforsale"
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| ghar bihin |
Posted
on 04-Oct-01 03:31 PM
Thapajee:
WOw! You have a great bungalow in Kathmandu.!
But the problem is what I am gonna do with a big bungalow like your's with the terrorists called Maobadis creating terror in Nepal?
You should keep enjoying the great rental income you are getting.
Good luck
Piyush
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| GP |
Posted
on 05-Oct-01 03:57 AM
-Current rent us RS. 80,500/month ( 5% increaseable/year)
SELLING PRICE: RS. 14,000,000.- ( US$185,000.00)
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Once I was in Bombay and walking through the streets near Victoria
.. Railway station. We were in large group. Suddenly we found
something on the street open shop. The shop keeper said
Rs. 108 rupees. A friend of mine, bargained as a try, can you
give it in Rs. 8, the shop keeper said NO NO ..and he asked
my friend HOW MUCH MAXIMUM YOU CAN PAY? The friend
said Rs. 8 , no more. The shop keeper said "le jau 8 rupeme.
maine dediya 8 repeme". The friend was surprised, with
the price reduction, and he would have bargained it
for even less or for free. Finally, he was suspicious why
the shopkeeper was selling an item cliped with Rs. 108
to Rs. 8.
As a CE, I don't see your house costs even 70lakhs. I bet
I can make it under Architects supervision. On Top of that,
why you want to sell it? Is this price estimated by Value
engineer? Or, your imagination?
Some more question? Current rate, Rs. 80,000 per month,
do you pay tax? regualarly from what you get? You show
in tax office it as Rs. 8,000, not Rs. 80,000. Are you really
honest? Then, I can think of buying it? I challenge you on
your honesty? Is this house made from honestly earned
and fair tax paid money? If its your parental property,
let me not raise any questions, but, if it is purchased from
your own earning, how did earn? Legal or illegal?
Tax paid or not paid?
For readers information, some years back, I went to
malpot to a buy a piece of land, well it was during peak
period, then, I asked the Malpot adhikrit to put the
price tag in official rajinama kagaj, and I told him
its fairly earned money, I don't to hide, and I will pay
whatever is TAX, pass kharacha. The officer denied,
he put only 1/10th of the amount I paid to the previous owner
of the land. The officer told me "Murkha kura nagarnus
bhai, yo mildaina. Sarakari rate bhanda ek paisa mathi
jana mildaina. ". He did not want I pay full because,
that will chalenge the rate in future and put him trouble,
and finally, the land was passed in 1/10of the amount
we paid, and at the end when I denied to pay GHUS to
the accountant, the Dalal paid in day light, infront
of 10s of peoples. Wow, Mero desh, ghus ma dubeko.
I saved almost 100,000 rupees for lower valuation,
but, then, I hate the Malpot office. I challenge you
whether this big sum you are asking is only for
grabbing money, and real money that will be shown
during JAGGA PASS in malpot or Nagarpalika will be
below 1/10 of the amount you get?
I look harsh over you, but, its the fact in Nepal. Its
what happens how you are made corrupt, at least
feel guilt.
I wish you are honest not only here in internet, but,
in tax office too. That might change the practice.
I failed, but, you can make it using Kantipur Daily
because of your amount, Kantipur can turn as
tehelkda dot com of Nepal. Please remember that
4lakhs scandal (back dated letter) in KPub, how
it turned the whole mass media and the Maoist
fanaticism upside down. You can bring differences
with just 7% of your money (i guess its the pass
kharcha).
Thanks.
GP
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| NK |
Posted
on 12-Oct-01 11:16 AM
I really wonder how he made that kind of money to build this kinda house. Just wondering....hmmm.....
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| jarib bhai |
Posted
on 12-Oct-01 05:11 PM
I must plant lots of "Money" plants in order to offord that kind of house. Man can't even imagine the price.
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| Rp |
Posted
on 12-Oct-01 09:28 PM
Really, it is none of our business how Mr. Thapa made his money and if Mr. Thapa gives his asking price, it is for a buyer to negotiate with Mr. Thapa. Mr. Thapa has his right to post an ad.
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| P. THAPA |
Posted
on 15-Oct-01 12:57 AM
Hi Guys!
I am not surprised to receive comments from you guys regarding
my house, but understood that USA is no more a PARADISE for
earning US DOLLARS. You are living with TERROR and FEAR.
You can not earn small amount of money even to buy an ordinary house
like mine.So what is the purpose of living in USA?
I do not know what you guys are doing there and why you went to USA
leaving your own beutiful contry NEPAL? Now, in Nepal you can have the best education equivalent to any foreign country. You can establish
your own business or get a good job herein Nepal if you work hard
like you are doing in USA. My purpose of going USA is just to expand my business.
The cost of my beautiful house is an example for you that
you can also earn a quite lot of money in your own country. It sounds me that
people working in USA and other foreign countries do not have capacity to earn such money to buy a house like mine. Whereas, I have been all the time
in Nepal,never worked in foreign country, never worked in government organization to corrupt the money, never involved in politics. All the money that I earned are from my hard work with undying efforts utilising my mind and talent effectively and efficeintly.
You guys must be surprised knowing that I have two more beutiful houses in Nepal. All three houses I build within 15 years of time, just working in Nepal. Indeed, I built more that 7 houses during these period and finally I owned 3 at present, selling others.
I am from a small village in Nepal and my parents were not very rich. I could not study in good school nor in good college. But today, I can speak the best english and working with an international standard.
All I want to say is;to earn money you do not need to go abroad and the example is infront of you. You need determination, commitment, hard work, be serious etc. It is not the magic by which people earn money, nor you can expect MIRACLE. You need hard and undying efforts.
Therefore, I urge you to back to NEPAL and work for your own country. Anyway, this is just a suggestion, not invitation. You are free to think and decide about you.
I wish you good luck and
"WISH YOU ALL NEPALESE LIVING IN USA A VERY HAPPY BIJAYA DASHAMI"
P. THAPA
from Nepal
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 15-Oct-01 12:25 PM
Dear Pji:
I read your comments, and the comments on your ad in this section. Yea, the
replies to your ad were surely outrageous.
But first of all, you probably mistook this site as in one way traffic(sth like
newspapers). This site is somewhat a two way traffic. It is necessary to
understand that people are free to comment here. At least, you can expect any
kind of comments.
I am glad that you earned a lot of money with your own hardwork, and skill. The
best thing about you is your confidence and your pride on your achievement,
which I am sure I can learn from you. I admire honest national capitalists, who are
capable of driving our economy and providing job opportunities for educated
people.And may be, one day you will reach to that point also.Being rich, to
repeat Deng Xiaoping's quotation here, is being glorious.
However, your accusation against USA is unfair, and irrational. We don't live in
Fear and Terror. We live here proudly, as a guest of a nation that is democratic in
its character, and tolerant towards foreigners. The impression you got is the one
terrorists wanted to give to you.It is absolutely necessary to understand that
those terrorists and their leaders who live in Afganistan, Iraq and elsewhere they
live in terror, psychosis and fear. They are those who live in bigotry and autocratic
society. They are the ones who are afraid of civil society. Please erase any
misconception about US from your mind.
Have a pleasant Dashain.
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| haldar |
Posted
on 15-Oct-01 03:18 PM
Thapa ji,
I salute you for your success and no comments.
This is a forum site, which can be accessed by anyone from any part of the world not just by US residences. This is a site where one can express their thoughts freely which I admire. You posted your ad so that you could get more feed back quickly far better than the newspaper right. Well you should be well aware that you could get all kinds of responses (clear cut).
By the way you mentioned that one can be successful like you in nepal. Well most nepalis know the reality too ( it bites and all of them do not get lucky and everyone knows that nepal is victim of nepotism and others too). I don't blame anyone.
Your main target advertising in this site is only US residence nepali (that’s what I understand from your response above). All nepali in US did not go there just to earn money. I believe most of the participants in this forum are students (correct me if I am wrong). Well in the long run goal is to earn money but still.
About the terrorism how about Mao badi ?
My sense tells me that this site is not suitable for the ads like yours, which includes big sum of money. This site is worth for those business affordable to students.
Its just my view nothing personal.
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| GP |
Posted
on 15-Oct-01 09:10 PM
Great Thapa ji.
I am very happy to hear that you have so many houses. Do you
have TAX clearance certificates in your earnings? If so, I would
like to put your photograph in my room as one of the great
inspirator to me. I am not Joking. I had never met a Nepali person who
had earned such a huge property legally while staying in
Nepal within 15years. Though, its (TAX certi.) your private certificate,
but, why not you help persons who are so much synical or
pessimistic that you can not earn honestly such a huge property
just within 15years?
BTW, I am wondering whether you are really the origianl P.Thapa
the real owner of the house, or cloned P. Thapa who is posing
here as real owner, who could not digest the comments?
Thanks.
GP
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| GP |
Posted
on 15-Oct-01 09:25 PM
Correction: First sentance should read as :
I am very happy to hear that you have so many houses made from
fair, and legal earnings with all TAX clearances as they should be.
one more:
synical should be read as "cynical". Regarding other mistakes, read
as you want.
GP
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| ram bdr thapa |
Posted
on 16-Oct-01 05:21 AM
hey,this is not mr thapa's house.
he is a broker,real estate agent.
i've seen this house at bhaisepati, picture is much more better.
adios
ram
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| diwas k |
Posted
on 16-Oct-01 12:22 PM
P. Thapa ji,
I don't know who you are or what you do. But I would like you to understand this simple thing:
Your reason for going to the US was to expand your business, because (I assume) opportunities were limited for your broad vision. Same applies to all the people who come to US from various countries, including Nepal. You have answered your own question, and become a cynic too.... Happy Vijaya Dashami
_Diwas K
>Hi Guys!
>
>I am not surprised to receive comments from
>you guys regarding
>my house, but understood that USA is no more
>a PARADISE for
>earning US DOLLARS. ....
>My purpose of
>going USA is just to expand my business.
>
>from Nepal
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| MLS |
Posted
on 16-Oct-01 12:32 PM
My sincere but unsolicited advice to Mr.P Thapa,
Please don't come to US or you will be like one of those living here, not capable of buying a house like yours. Moreover, maintenace of such beeautiful house may pose a problem for you. Don't introduce yourself to the hard and poor lifestyle of the US.
Bad luck to you.
MLS
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| GP |
Posted
on 16-Oct-01 08:58 PM
Having own house good or bad?
In developed countries like Japan, having own house is
surely an important issue. OWN house ? Why ?
I think most important issue is not your house, but,
WHERE? If you are working like Gypsy moving your
working place from one city to another and getting
transferred from one department to another, its
probably a costly idea of having your own home. So,
those who have white collar job and possibility of
getting transferred from one place to another, the
OWN house concept is useless. Thats why you can
find own house is mostly applicable to too stable
peoples like in Agricultural or labour class peoples
or stagnant peoples who enjoy doing white collar
job of adding 49+51 =100 for whole life time, I
mean doing the same job for all "working" life time.
In Nepal too, except the local school teachers and business
community, and peoples in Kathmandu, OWN HOUSE concept
is getting confused? My own house is in Pokhara (my parents),
I am in dilemma SHOULD I make a house in my village?
If so, why is it necessary? What can I do staying there,
in a remote village where I do not have a job for even morning
to suit my education and profession? That demands me
either to sell my parental property or make a dumb summar
or winter house, as one of my friend ever asked me a
piece of land to make his log house. In fact, its located
in such a place (three sides having KHAHARE) thats best
for SUMMAR palace for me and my family, and I do not
see its any advantage. So, I have to move to KTM (if
I am returning to Nepal) where I will more jobs and
opportunities. and the cost of making a house is surely
a sky racketing price per unit cubic feet. So, there are
many peoples and even my friends who are staying in
rented apartments in KTM, and how do you define them?
In this sense, what is difference between a Nepali living
in Tokyo or in NY or London or in KTM in a rented room?
What lacks in Nepal is the legal system where you get
certificate only for Land, and not for space. In developed
countries, they can buy space, and it is not necessarily
a ground, but, a space : may be in 2nd floor level or 10th
floor level. This is how they measure whether you own
a house, and it does not require to have ground. When you
buy such a space, like in Tokyo or any other place, once your
parent die, the parental inheritance requires to pay about
40% of Valuation of the flat or ground or home itself. They
can not cheat the public office or governement, but, as we
we can see how peoples under-value with the help of
Malpot adhikrit and inherit their parental property?
Such rules have advantages. The peoples can take loan
and buy houses, thus, they can work hard and pay the
loan and their son and daughter of middle class people will
never think of getting anything really worth from parents
who bought house from loan if its not paid in full. This
mechanism will ask more peoples to work hard and thus, they
can think of accumulating the property that they need only
for their life times, not like in Nepal, where you accumulate
property for 7 generations. Thus, more money will flow
in market, and thats why young peoples in developed countries
spend more money on changing news Cars every 3 or 5 years,
buying computers every odd years and like that.... They
just keep on enjoying spending whatever they earn, this is
how government gets huge tax from consumption tax and
market enjoys the flow of money. Since, we Nepalis try to
keep money in reserve as much as we can, so market is
under scarce of money flow and thus, peoples are afraid of
losing jobs ... so the accumulating money/ property for
generations does not allow us enjoying at maximum capacity.
Well, in developed country, peoples pay TAX and social security
which is a kind of guarantee towards your old age life, where
you can spend remaining days after retirement with simple life.
This is another reason that Nepalis need housing and accumulation
of property, and here only govt. employees of Nepal have secured
life at old age. What government has lagged is the proper method
of collecting social security money from peoples working in private sectors
and keeping its track so that their old age gets better and they
do not have to worry for the old age. This could avoid making too
many houses to get prepared for old age life.
All these reasons make Nepalis feel to have too many houses,
House is one of the most non-productive, but, less risky investment.
It will continue as long as we lack in making peopels feel of sociallly
secured at old age.
GP
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| Kris |
Posted
on 16-Oct-01 10:35 PM
Is GP sweating from his ass looking at the large numbers in front of him? Who the heck are you to goddam care how PThapa makes his money or how much money he has? Money carries weight not how you make it. You ever been to a Strip Club? - you sound too anally retentive to dare to go there anyways. Girls make money by baring it ALL; they ride nice cars and live in nice houses cuz guys like you will be giving them the money you earn working your low paying jobs.
Pull all the money out of your pocket, do you know where they've been? How many people have been murdered for that money?? You don't know jack. So why do you care where PThapa got his money??
For PThapa:
You have a pretty big misconception about the US it seems. Who told you that we're living in fear here?? Actually isn't one of the reason you want to sell the house because you fear that the Maoist are gonna knock on your door and ask you for your money? or burn your house down?? You're the one living in fear. and you try to ridicule the people who are in the US as not earning any money blah blah?? For your information lot's of nepali people here are successful and are making 50000 or more every year after finishing college.
Since you seem so proud of making so much money, maybe you can tell us how you did that to add some credibility. Tell us how to do it. Help you fellow countrymen succeed in Nepal instead of seeking business opportunities in the US.
You boast about not going to good school yet being able to speak 'the best english'. For your information 'best' is a superlative adjective and you don't need to qualify it with 'the'. In addition, I can find 50 errors in your posting which I don't find a need to point out, since you know so much.
In summary, my advice to you is to relax and don't boast too much about your success, and not jeer at any hardworking people like the Nepalese in the US.
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| GP |
Posted
on 16-Oct-01 11:56 PM
Kris wrote to P. Thapa:
Since you seem so proud of making so much money, maybe you can tell us how you did that to add some credibility. Tell us how to do it.
--
You werere teaching others " its none of your biz. to know how P.Thapa"
made money, while you are asking the same question. The content is
same, may be presentation is different. This is typical .....
GP
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| Kris |
Posted
on 17-Oct-01 12:28 AM
GP, how typical of you to takes things out of perspective. I asked him to share the info to 'Help your fellow countrymen succeed in Nepal instead of seeking business opportunities in the US' since he seems to have questions regarding the people who are working in the US, and not to mind the scrawny business of asking to see TAX papers and put my nose in some smelly place asking where and how he got the money to build his house.
You are a sad case GP.
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| GP |
Posted
on 17-Oct-01 12:57 AM
Kris wrote :You are a sad case GP.
Oh!Kris ji, Namaste! You are so great! You want me to say SO?
You got it.
1. Are not you personal?
2. are not your trying to prove that 2+2 is not 4, but, 2x2 is 4
The conclusion of your interest to know how he earned money
and my interst to know is same. Only difference is
you want to know for different reasons, and I want to
know as prospectus buyer.
As I said before, I have full
right to raise question if I want to be a prospectus buyer? Do
you think, I can not ask any question before I decide to buy
it? Do you think I can not be a buyer?
Since the ad appeared in public forum, you have a full right
to raise questions of all kinds related to house? Why he want
to sell it? How he made it? Whether to answer these questions
or not will be his choice? IF he denies to answer these questions,
its my turn to decide whether to buy or not? Who are you to
teach me (my self as a customer) not to ask such questions ?
Meanwhile, the house is extraordinary and really, good. Thats
not enough for me, I want to know other details, too.
GP
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| Kris |
Posted
on 17-Oct-01 01:10 AM
GP, let's ponder on a scenario,
Let's say PThapa bought his house from someone, would you need to know how they got the money and if they paid tax? Let's say even these people bought the house from someone else, would you need to know the financial information from these 2nd generation owners too? From your logic it seems like you would need to since as a buyer you have a right to know these things too.
Good luck in the world.
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| GP |
Posted
on 17-Oct-01 02:22 AM
Bro. Kris, I will not spend so much time, if I would have
come in real world with the real owner. I would probably
have decided it YES or NO. I would not be having that
much of time, and I am not a investigator, but, a private
citizen, but, will say "NO THANKS" vanish for the next
search. I do not have right to force someone to disclose
personal things, but, when relevant, may be intersted
to know, but, if denied, I have leave the scene, "kulelam
thoknu bahek k nai rahyo"? Hoina ra.
I think what Biswo ji has said is right. I never said P. Thapa
made the house from illegal means, it might be true that
my presentation was wrong, and it was some-what agressive.
I should drop out from this topic.
Happy Bijaya Dashami. Its a time to have fun.
GP
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| NK |
Posted
on 17-Oct-01 11:36 AM
Gpji,
greatness lies in admitting mistake and ability to move on. it seems you are on the right path. Congratulations.
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