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At the LUX Beauty Star Contest

   So there I was, working mightily on a pr 22-May-04 ashu
     Very interesting, I should say :) 22-May-04 JagaltayBhoot
       wheres the rest wheres the rest? 22-May-04 porcelina
         Ahem! ahem! The airport sekuwa ghar?? 22-May-04 vivid
           " VIVID "... I always remember and assoc 22-May-04 netaa_ji
             Ashu, Cool insider's info. Way more t 22-May-04 Biswo
               Hey, if she looked nice in a decollete, 22-May-04 Rosie
                 Ani ani? :) 22-May-04 SITARA
                   Rosie, she must have been doing pushups 22-May-04 SITARA
                     Hahahaha... True...True! 22-May-04 Rosie
                       Two words crossing Ashu's analytical min 22-May-04 SITARA
                         Pushups on stair master and climbing the 22-May-04 Badmash
                           RECAP: When some of them pout, as the 22-May-04 ashu
                             <br> I was determined to spend someti 23-May-04 M.P.
                               Ashu, Interesting narration. Squarely 23-May-04 karmapa
                                 Thanks everyone for your views and comme 23-May-04 ashu
                                   waiting for more!!!!!:) 23-May-04 monika
                                     good one Ashu... interesting ... hahaha. 24-May-04 wateva
                                       <br> Ashu dai, A great read. Kasto s 24-May-04 isolated freak
Isolated Freak: Here is a theory: Tes 24-May-04 SITARA
   Sitara, Wouldn't it be great if they 24-May-04 isolated freak
     Forgot this : :-) :-) bhayena bhane a 24-May-04 isolated freak
       RECAP: "Suddenly, I start to find the 24-May-04 ashu
         Kudos to Ashu, fine narration. Keep'em r 24-May-04 Dr. Strangelove
           Tehi M Ashish (pardon me, Moro bhanna ma 25-May-04 SITARA
             Biswo ji:Personally, I find this beauty 26-May-04 HahooGuru
               Indeed, a very good narration by Ashu; a 26-May-04 sukuti
                 Sukuti: I know I am way off the topic he 26-May-04 HahooGuru
                   <br> Netaa_ji, TFYI! Names do matter 26-May-04 vivid
                     Guruji, Long ago, I had posted someth 26-May-04 Biswo
                       Ashu -Any estimate as to the length of w 26-May-04 RBaral
                         HG, I don't disagree on your opinion a 26-May-04 sukuti
                           whoever decided to pick a superbly delic 26-May-04 LadyBug
                             hey where the hell is the other bhag..is 29-May-04 EKAR
                               nice narration ashu ji! waitin for th 29-May-04 roc1432
                                 Sajha friends, Thank you for your kin 29-May-04 ashu
                                   nice work ashutosh dai. loved the 'bosto 29-May-04 tabsher
                                     Ashu must've been talking about her... 05-Jun-04 An Indun Poet
                                       Ashu, I am little confused to see the 07-Jun-04 Dariwal
Dariwal, Since the mid-90s, I have be 07-Jun-04 ashu
   Dai eagerly waiting for the rest. Chito 08-Jun-04 meera
     Hey Ashu, keep on meditating... it wi 14-Jun-04 darshankaka


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ashu Posted on 22-May-04 10:39 AM

So there I was, working mightily on a presenttion all through this Saturday morning and afternoon, wondering what to do at night to let some steam out.

Should I call up friends and go see Mani Ratnam's latest movie "Yuva" at Jai Nepal Cinema Ghar with dinner at Thamel afterward, or chill out at an airport sekuwa ghar
with beer and badaam, or just make some thick soup and curl up with Chinese-American writer Ha Jin's short-story collection called "The Bridegroom" (The New Yorker magazine calls it "dazzling") . . . or just go listen to some cool jazz at Kathmandu's smoke-filled bars.

Then the phone rang.

At the other end was good ole SMS, inviting me to the finale of 2004 Lux Beauty Star Contest tonight, on the 22nd of May.

"For free, yaar", SMS chortled, with glee. "I've got you a pass. There's dinner afterward. Be at Hyatt at Bouddha at 7 pm. Sandhya and I'll meet you at the
lobby.

Having nothing better to do at night, I said, "Sure."

"And, uh, wear something nice."

OK.

***********************

The hall at Hyatt was packed with the Who's Who of the Kathmandu society.

Not the literary, poetic types. But the corporate types with their variously-undressed wives. The Nepal Lever crowd is there. So is the crowd from Surya Nepal, Soaltee Group . The Himalanyan Times' entire marketing office seems to be there, as is Population Service International's team. The elderly women, with tufts of white hair, are in resplendent saris, looking elegant; and men are dressed like Wall Street bankers.

I feel distinctly out of place. Everyone seems to know one another, and they chat
with one another easily, with effortless banter and rib-poking.

I nurse my drink in one corner, scanning the crowd for familiar faces.

I see a woman: could be in her late-20s, in a stunning Gyani-Shova-Tuladhar outfit, decollete, of course -- way, way, decollete.

I could imagine her sacrificing her mornings on the altar of a Stairmaster -- everyday.

She looks at me.
I look at her, somewhat dreamily.
Then, quickly, I break into a "hello, how are you" smile.

She turns away, and smiles at an banker who works at Nabil Bank.

"Now, what does he have I don't have?" I ask SMS.

In return, SMS says, "She's the daughter of an ex-Minister. Why the hell would she
be interested in you? Let's go chat with the Channel Nepal VJs: they talk with anything
that moves."

The Channel Nepal VJs ignore me though they smile at SMS.
Then they get busy talking with Nima Rumba.

Dejected, I look around.
Damn, why am I not a pop kalakar?

*******

The show starts

The 18-odd girls make an appearance, one by one -- wearing next to nothing. I mean, if they wear the same dress on the street, they's be arrested for soliciting. Plus, they they look scrawny, and appear to be quite malnourished.

When some of them pout, as they must, they look like characters out of MAD
magazines.

"Don't they feed these girls?" I ask SMS.

"Only lettuce", he says.
"What are these, goats?" I ask.

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JagaltayBhoot Posted on 22-May-04 10:51 AM

Very interesting, I should say :)
porcelina Posted on 22-May-04 11:54 AM

wheres the rest wheres the rest?
vivid Posted on 22-May-04 11:57 AM

Ahem! ahem!

The airport sekuwa ghar??
Why does everybody refer to it?
Seems like it is a must visit place, NO?

You got the pass and it was for free, I envy you hajur, ;-).
Poor me just got the glimpse of the ladies clad in the evening gowns, full page in the daily newspapers, ;- ).

This is news,
Even Ashu feels dejected?

Interesting saying, the VJs talk to anything that moves. Ashu ji, were you too stunned after screening too many undressed ladies, to even smile back to them? ;-P

Good going,
Ashu ji, if ever you become a popkalakar, I’ll be the first fan to farmaish your visualized pop song in the CALL KANTIPUR. Do let me know in advance, ;-).

Oh! After seeing the pictures from the Surya Grind at Hyatt(in NEPAL or HIMAL??), nothing’s gonna shock us, NO?

Hoping for more on the intellectual ground, questions and answers.
Lets see the effect of malnutrition in that level.

Cheers!
netaa_ji Posted on 22-May-04 12:52 PM

" VIVID "... I always remember and associate this name "VIVID" with the movie production company that produces porn movies.

Biswo Posted on 22-May-04 01:24 PM

Ashu,

Cool insider's info. Way more than boring newspaper details about such contests. A lot of models live a life that forces them to be anorexic.

In Shanghai, my school was regarded the top modelling school. In my occasional talk with the models, they told me how they talk until late night to forget the hunger, how they barf immediately after eating something, how they had to look scrawny etc etc.

Personally, I find this beauty contest thing very bad idea. It is just getting popular for its entertainment values, and may be because some beatiful women like to compete with each other.

Rosie Posted on 22-May-04 07:27 PM

Hey, if she looked nice in a decollete, she is probably sacrificing her mornings to lifting free weights to tone her arms and shoulders. The stairmaster is meant for the the thighs and hips :)
Great narration! Keep it coming.
SITARA Posted on 22-May-04 07:28 PM

Ani ani? :)
SITARA Posted on 22-May-04 07:31 PM

Rosie, she must have been doing pushups on a stationary stairmaster; is do-able you know! :P
Rosie Posted on 22-May-04 07:33 PM

Hahahaha...
True...True!
SITARA Posted on 22-May-04 07:45 PM

Two words crossing Ashu's analytical mind concerning the stairmaster: deliciously "decolletious" and "bootiliscious"!

hehehe! Ashu, sorry, couldn't help it... your tongue in cheek narration triggered off my wicked strain! :P
Badmash Posted on 22-May-04 08:32 PM

Pushups on stair master and climbing the bench press? Little kinky...but its all good.

:)
ashu Posted on 22-May-04 09:58 PM

RECAP:

When some of them pout, as they must, they look like characters out of MAD
magazines.

"Don't they feed these girls?" I ask SMS.

"Only lettuce", he says.
"What are these, goats?" I ask.

*************


PART II

I am starting to find the ethnography of the girls sashyaing down the stage to be quite interesting. Two women, who could be mistaken as Gurung lasses or Gurung-senis,
have surnames such as Bhattarai and Sharma.

"When bahuns sleep around, they contribute to the melting pot of this great nation, " whispers SMS into my ear.

I am quite amused.

Of the 20 girls, three are Chettris (or have Chettri-like surnames), four are Bahuns (or at least with Bahun surnames), two possibly Newars and the rest are, well, "janajati".

No Tharus.
No Magars.
And certainly none with distinctive tarai features.

The Nepal Lever, a subsidiary of Hindustan Lever and the promoter of this beauty contest and the distributor of Fair & Lovely cream, obviously likes its girls to be as
white as blank A4-size printing paper.

Off-white 18-20 year-olds need not apply.

"I'll bet the award will go the whitest of white contestants-- Priyanka Basnet," I tell SMS.
"Well, we'll see," he whispers back.

Come to think of it, I can't elp feeling that all these janajati women are taken as participants only for color and to give this whole thing an ethnic appeal. The Nepal Lever, the office of which is right above mine, is a very conservative organisation.

Having strutted their stuff, and done their pouting, the girls saunter off the ramp
into the green room.

There's a break now.

Rajesh Hamal arrives.
He is in his "rough'n'tough" attire, looking as cool as though he has just stepped off a GQ magazine cover. Women everywhere crane their neck to get a glimpse of him.

Hamal sits next to us.
I feel like a movie-star myself.

"Rajesh Hamal, I presume," I want to extend my hand in my best Stanley-Livingstone imitation. But I am too tongue-tied. Besides, he looks positively stoned.

A 4-women group calling itself "Apocalypse" [not now!] appears on the stage, with
a modern dance sequence. Dressed in witches-from-Salem black outfits, they gyrate
to some haunting music, bending their lithe bodies into various positions.

Their dance appears to be a cross between a Puff Daddy music-video dance and Bharat Natyam.

I find it incredibly boring, and start to let my eyes wander to the members of the audience. I steal a glance at the decollete woman who's seated right behind her
ex-minister father.

I imagine feeding grapes to her . . . one by one, on the banks of some river in
Boston . . . watching them disappear behind her tongue.

"One of those girls dancing up there is going to be a freshman at Harvard this fall.
She's from Rato Bangala, I think", SMS tells me.

What? Who? Where?
I snap out of my Boston-based fantasies.

Suddenly, I start to find the modern dance up on the stage very interesting. With a little bit of effort, I start seeing cultural symbols, philosophical messages and profound meanings in the dance. I am beginning to think that maybe the dance is about peace and brotherhood and love and desh-bikas and all that wonderful stuff.

What was boring earlier suddenly turns into a vibrant experience.
Enlighened, I clap loudly as the dance ends.

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M.P. Posted on 23-May-04 12:14 AM



I was determined to spend sometime offline and read some books. But unfortunately, Henry Kissinger's english is ridiculously dull. As I struggled through the first few pages of his Does America Need a Foreign Policy , I said to myself, "whether America needs a foreign policy or not, Henry Kissinger definitely needs to change his english so that a Nepali like myself does not have to type dictionary.com fifteen times in half an hour. If anybody here claims to be close to Kissinger, please pass on my message: Sir, could you send me your mailing address, so I can mail you my On Writing Well by William Zinseer? Ok, some self promotion there.

But I digress. The point I was trying to get at is that when offline reading becomes boring and online reading becomes interesting, no Misunderstood Poet can force himself to remain offline for long.

With most Sajha postings reflecting the misuse of free internet by freshmen in college, who have just freed themselves from the slow internet connection of New Road and made their way to a place called USA, Ashu dai's posting was a change. And a very interesting read indeed.

There is another reason why I must post. I tend to envy when people talk about skinny girls. All along, I had thought I was the only one who liked the "goats" -- skinny girls with small breasts! No offense to ladies here, most of you I am sure are taken and settled -- I would probably not dare talk about these things if I saw you in person. :)

More striking is the fact that somebody of Ashu dai's age knows about this fresh-out-of-Alevel girl from Ratobangla! I mean common, unless this character called SMS is a teacher at Ratobangla or a close relative of the girl, I find it amusing that SMS knows this girl. Ashu dai, what's SMS's email address? Just kidding. :)

Btw, mind asking the Kantipuronline people to replace their online model; she has been there for more than three weeks now. If they are running out of models, they should contact the organizers of the Lux Beauty Contest. Or SMS.

Oohi online beneficiary of Nepali models,
M.P.
karmapa Posted on 23-May-04 02:39 AM

Ashu,

Interesting narration. Squarely in the tradition of New Journalism ala Tom Wolfe.

-Karmapa
ashu Posted on 23-May-04 05:39 AM

Thanks everyone for your views and comments.
Appreciate them a lot. Hope you are amused, entertained and enjoying your
breaks from work . . .

Will post other parts after I get some bits and pieces of my REAL
work done :-)

M.P., FYI, SMS does exist.
His last name is Sthapit (a corrupt version of the English phrase "Stop It").
A few Sajha folks know SMS quite well.

Apparently, NEPAL magazine had published a feature on this Harvard-bound
"oomph-mati" a while back, and SMS had read it.

(Aside: If you are a Nepali upper-class female in Kathmandu and can show leadership in arts-related extracurriculars, your chances of being accepted by Harvard -- all things being equal -- are very high. Believe it or not, there are more Nepali females at Harvard these days than at Trichandra College, where classes don't take place because of daily "dhunga haana-haan". )

oohi
"Back to the the Powerpoint Slides for tomorrow"
ashu
ktm,nepal
monika Posted on 23-May-04 08:43 AM

waiting for more!!!!!:)
wateva Posted on 24-May-04 06:54 AM

good one Ashu... interesting ... hahaha... funny some things you can somehow relate to! hate one of those parties... always have...

M.P. looks like you like them goats young too huh?? not in high school but not quite freshmen in college yet! hmmmm... well I just think you should be preparing for your GRE instead of wasting time here :P

isolated freak Posted on 24-May-04 08:42 AM


Ashu dai,

A great read. Kasto series wise posting- stay tuned till next week style. Ekaichoti jhyamma post gari dine ni, so that I can read all at once and start studying for my finals. Also, I am sure there was someone familiar from THT whom you didn't notice. :-)

Good to read something GOOD on Sajha after a long time. Now back to my THULO BARNAMALA reading..:-)

Namaste!

Why do we have to take tests? :-(
SITARA Posted on 24-May-04 09:11 AM

Isolated Freak:

Here is a theory: Tests are administered to find out what you don't know! :)

My personal experience of testing all my elementary students (especially Special Ed.) to fit them into the non-sensical "No Child Left Behind Policy"!
isolated freak Posted on 24-May-04 09:20 AM

Sitara,

Wouldn't it be great if they start testing us to find out what we know instead of what we don't know? Then mero pani 100/100..

Namaste..

isolated freak Posted on 24-May-04 09:22 AM

Forgot this : :-)

:-) bhayena bhane artha ko anartha feri..hoina ta Sitara?

Khoi ashu dai,
Baki katha sunna Airport ko sekuwa pasal ma aunu parne jasto cha ni? :-)...


ashu Posted on 24-May-04 11:03 AM

RECAP:

"Suddenly, I start to find the modern dance up on the stage very interesting. With a little bit of effort, I start seeing cultural symbols, philosophical messages and profound meanings in the dance. I am beginning to think that maybe the dance is about peace and brotherhood and love and desh-bikas and all that wonderful stuff.

What was boring earlier suddenly turns into a vibrant experience.
Enlighened, I clap loudly as the dance ends."

****************

Part III

It's break time, and after the applause has died down, I look around.

The composition of the audience tells me that this LUX Beauty Contest is basically a meeting point of -- nay, a cultural event for -- two types of Kathmandu elites: One
is the old-line Shah-Rana khalak, slowly flaming out of relevance in Nepal.

The other is, emerging Indian professionals (those working at the top echelons at Nepal Lever, the Himalayan Times, Surya Nepal, etc) who are -- for business reasons -- quite close to the Shah-Rana khalak.

This is reflected by the lack of diversity on the judging panel: One Shah, three Ranas and two Indian professionals.

[By the way, in case you did not know, In Nepal, the tried-and-true and perfectly legal business model of multinationals based in India goes like this: Get hold of a Shah or a Rana as a 5 to 10 %-wallah local partner, and use him as a legal frontman to smooth feathers at the bureaucracy. Of course, send boxes of free saboon or juices or whatever you produce to his house, and basically keep him happy so that you can do business in Nepal without any hassle.]

Seated right at front is the old lion -- Rukma Shumsher Ja Ba Ra, chairman of Dabur Nepal, looking younger than his 65+ years.

But looking at him, I wonder: What's he doing at this place, that too, on a Saturday night, staring at a parade of half-naked women . . . young enough to be his grandaughters, strutting their stuff up and down the ramp.

OK, I am here because, well, I am single (though not for long) and I got a "fo-cut-iya" ticket. But what is his excuse? The idea of a Nepali Hugh Hefner sounds pretty gross.

Then there is the Indian Ambasador, Shyam Saran, in his rock-star avatar -- continuously mobbed by Nepali businessmen and their wives. Forming a circle
around Ambassador Saran, they all smile, they all laugh, and touch one another
with sly affection . . . as though they were all members of a secret society with its
own insider-jokes and secret handshakes.

Obviously, we are not in Kalanki anymore, Toto!

Still, the most interesting audience members are the corporate wannabes. These
are prestige-hungry folks who are neither Shahs/Ranas nor top-ranked Indian professionals working in Nepal. But they'd do anything to be seen in that sort of company. These are the ones taking out their digital cameras and taking 100s of pictures of their famousfellow-audience members, possibly to show folks back home the kind of people they hang out with on Saturday nights.

"See, Anil Shah, the top dog at NABIL Bank, was sitting in front of me."
I can almost hear them say that at lunch to their co-worker on Monday, with a smug
I've-made-it-to-the-top-of-Kathmandu-society face.

Then there are those elderly men, nattily dressed but obvously bored with their overweight wives, glancing around for an affair with other people's lithe-bodied wives.
The way they sidle up to other people's wives, wile neglecting their own, for conversation is an amusing sight.

You imagine them mentally undressing the women -- both on and of the ramp . . . and think that under different circumstances, these guys might be the shady characters, pinching butts of your sisters on the streets of Kathmandu in a mock-accidental
manner.

Somehow, the beauty contest strives to give us all a patina of sophistication and
polish, keeping our less-than-noble impulses under check.

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Dr. Strangelove Posted on 24-May-04 11:43 AM

Kudos to Ashu, fine narration. Keep'em rolling.

What's with this..."not for long" single hint? Getting hitched this Asar or what? Hey, I'll be waiting for the invite!!:)

I think Rukhma probably got his son-in-law, Anil, some good seats for him to hobnob with the Kathmandu business elite and the glitterati.

SITARA Posted on 25-May-04 09:33 AM

Tehi M Ashish (pardon me, Moro bhanna man lagena aaja! ;)

You never fail to amaze me with your sensitivity and observations.
HahooGuru Posted on 26-May-04 06:11 AM

Biswo ji:Personally, I find this beauty contest thing very bad idea.

I am just opposite end: I appreciate the beauty contests and these are the
good things and if performed well have good outcomes. Forget about Atkins
diet, the Japanese girls have mastered in eating only lettuce during lunch
time such that the life span of Japanese women have reached to 85, compare
it with the Atkins diet lovers in United states where lettuce haters made
the country's 90% population suffer obescity(over wt.). I am tired of seeing
over wts. everywhere from child to old guys. I think beauty contest will
remind people to turn themselves to eat like goat instead of eating meat like
lions or hyana. Only, this weak a banner in my AOL's welcome page
writes a disappointing note to Atkins Diet lovers: it says something like
research on Atkins diet shows that the diet really does not work on all
peoples, for me its just a propaganda by corporate America when their
Beef Market was in trouble, and now when milk prices are sky racketing
the other side of corporates are speeding up and trying to convey that
hey Atkins diet (abstract of Atkins diet: eat only meat and control your wt)
does not work. After watching American TV shows for almost a year,
I have found a great difference between Japanese TV and American TV
and where they differ. Japanese TV's prime time TV shows are mostly
dedicated on why should you eat less meat, more lettuce plus vegatable,
while lobbyists in US does not let any programs like that (well someone
may say there are TV channels that are fully on Food: thats the problematic
to me). Its because most of the programs telecast ads. on chronic disease
related medicines, and Japanese TVs air most of the time on how to eat
things such that chronic disease can be avoided. Thus, Japanese TV
programs have motto of prevention is better than cure, but, problematic
part with attitudes here is you can eat as much as you like, don't worry
about disease, a doctor tells to me: don't worry we are here to help
you if you suffer any disease and there are medicines....... Its really
troubling me here why food industry and Phermaceuticals lobby so
much and political leaders are carried way. They make propaganda on
food "double ~ triple burgars". Many will be surprised here in this
country that in Japan, McDonald's commercial in TV writes a warning
line like : Din't rely your diet truly on McDonald everyday, its not good
to eat only Mc, take other items to make your diet complete. Can you
imagine such warning appear on TVs, a BIG NO, because
food industry and Phermaceuticals will never let such ad appear on TVs.
Thats why 44% of the medicines of the world medicine consumption
is consumed alone in USA.

Therefore, beauty shows keeping a thresold descency on clothing and pose
will remind peoples why should they eat lettuce and other vegatable like goats.
It should be promoted and healthy shows (not like the last time Football show
where Jackson showed her breast discrediting the actual charm of "LIVE"
telecasts).

In Japan: in 19th century the characters in books were shown with Mota Ghata
peoples including women. After World War II, slim peoples are model characters
everywhere and bad peoples are shown as fat guys (except Sumo players).
TV programs joke: due to burst of bubble economy in 1992, obescity has increased
in Japan, because peoples don't have enough money to be goaty i.e. eat more
vegatable and eat less fatty food, because lettuce is expensive as compared
to chicken: the price grape tomato is sometime equal to the price of beef.

Beuty contests should keep on going ahead, so that it acts like a reminder to
peoples why should they shape their body and remain slim.

HG
sukuti Posted on 26-May-04 11:02 AM

Indeed, a very good narration by Ashu; an interesting read.

However, moving slightly from the theme of the post, to comment on Hahoo Guru's posting, which I disagree on some points, and agree on other, I will have to say that I am not a strong supporter of beauty contest of any kind. For me it is a part of entertainment that promotes negative agenda. I don't believe that beauty/looks should be a subject of one's self-quality. You may argue that the girls who participate in such contests do get asked intellegent questions which that have to answer; and to be able to answer them convincingly, they have to be smart. I can bet that those girls spend hours and hours doing research on the kind of questions that might get asked and memorize the answers for them. So these contests don't judge people on humor, honesty, intellegence, wit and many more that I consider as true qualities, but it merely provides the spectators, mainly guys, a feast to their eyes.

And to promote health concern ideas with such contests, as suggested by HG, for me is not a good way at all. A thin, very well-proportion girl, can be more unhealthy than an oversize one. She can have more cholestrol than an oversized one. And anerexia and bulimia can be far worse, more deadly illness than obesity. Besides who knows the girls on such contests can be bearing other mental illness due to obsession of some kind. Therefore grazing only on lettuce is no better than eating just meat.

But I do agree with HG that in America, people eat eat and eat. If you watch TV at late night, most of the commercials are about fast-food with a message that they are open until late. These people know that you are hungry at that time and are craving for food, so they just want you to jump in your car and drive to the nearest drive thru. And besides all the sugar these people take in by drinking just soda, no water at all, is also a big problem. No wonder you see so many fat people in US, and people who go or at least have a membership to a fitness center, for that is the only place thay can burn those calories.

I know I am way off the topic here; so moving back in, I really enjoyed the reading, the sick men who neglect their wives to drool on other women like dogs, is nothing but mainly a by-product off arranged marriage, and a male dominant society.

Anyway, waiting for some more.
HahooGuru Posted on 26-May-04 11:31 AM

Sukuti: I know I am way off the topic here; so moving back in, I really enjoyed the reading, the sick men who neglect their wives to drool on other women like dogs, is nothing but mainly a by-product off arranged marriage, and a male dominant society.


I think that you are very wrong here. Problem is not arranged marriage,
its something else. Its repurcation, and arranged marriage is more stable
(with some stresses) than a "love" marriage. In Western society, where
Donald Trump like people keep woman for years as Girl friend. One thing,
I should say here that there is nothing "PERFECT" in real world, so
arranged and love marriage have good and bad sides. The other thing I would
like to ask you do you see USA as male-female equal society? My Dear go
to Wal-Mart, it offers higher wages to male compared woman. I wish
women have equal rights in reality, but, its only wishes. America being
capitalistic society, the society wants to suck your blood to the level
law permits and lawyers are there to find the loop hole in law to make your
coroporate suck your blood until you become not only worth less, you
won't be allowed to die freely. Here in capitilistic society, you are slave of
system and the freedom is there with those who have money. Thats why
you become commodity here in this society and when you are a commodity,
you body is commodity, and that means you will try to sell it to the maximum
amount you deserve. Forget humanity, and adarsha ka kura, if you have
to remain in this capitalism, the winner is one who can make best out of
what he owns, not one who pretends to live in idealism, and my suggestion
to them to go to Asia and live life doing bhajan kritan and get free foods
enjoy. I wonder whether Asia can offer that much considering the fast
growth and transfer of society to capitalism.

For me if the participant is well educated girl who knows who she is, then,
the beauty show is good for her and for me too. Well, some other people
might have different perspectives. I think we should promote beauty contests
so that peoples tend to seek healthier and slimmers, but, not under extreme
stress. Well, some peoples say that when you are under stress, you release
your stress by eating more food (source: Japanese TV). While you eat,
you forget your stress.

HG
vivid Posted on 26-May-04 11:37 AM


Netaa_ji,
TFYI!
Names do matter a lot.
So do ones own identity.
You have the freedom to associate the name with whatever you want to but do spare the nick in sajha as I am who I am and let them be them.
vivid.

========

Ashu ji,
Nice narration.
Viewing the upperclass society through your gogs, ;-).
Still waiting for the final round classic.


Biswo Posted on 26-May-04 11:54 AM

Guruji,

Long ago, I had posted something in sajha about how this whole Miss World/Miss Universe thing started, and how everybody including the organizers agreed it had nothing to do with the development of women and other things.

As a democrat, I can't stop anyone from doing things that don't harm me. But my disagreement was philosophical. I don't see how these things help women, their relative standing in society and their personal development.

May be we just see things differently:-) But, let's face it, as men, we all enjoy gawking at lithesome, pulchritudinous, svelte, scantily clad , young girls catwalking in the ramp for us:-) I hope that makes you cheerful!

RBaral Posted on 26-May-04 11:56 AM

Ashu -Any estimate as to the length of wait for the another part of the sequeal?
sukuti Posted on 26-May-04 12:57 PM

HG,
I don't disagree on your opinion about US. Infact, I am starting to get sick and tired of this country. But in US, women are far better treated than in Nepal, that's for sure. It will take a while before women get to practice equal rights as men.
Anyway, it looks like you and I have a different opinion about arranged marriage. However, keeping in mind that this post started by Ashu was merely for a fun purpose, I do not want to argue with you too much about what kind of marriage is better.

But keep in mind that if a woman drools around a man while ignoring her husband, what the outcome could be.

And if you think with a male dominance attitude, true love marriage will never be comprehensible.

Anyway, waiting for Ashu's posting Bhag 4.
LadyBug Posted on 26-May-04 01:37 PM

whoever decided to pick a superbly delicious "not found in anywhere else as good as in nepal" nickname deserves a thappad for making me drool and crave for jawalakhel ko khasi ko sukuti....anyone know of any online store or local US shop that sell it?

sorry for the diversion of topic here, but couldnt help the sukuti crave. and no i'm not pregnant (for those who'll start shooting me emails heheh)!
EKAR Posted on 29-May-04 02:31 PM

hey where the hell is the other bhag..is it even flowing or u stopped writing...
roc1432 Posted on 29-May-04 04:42 PM

nice narration ashu ji!

waitin for the chautho bhaag
ashu Posted on 29-May-04 09:59 PM

Sajha friends,

Thank you for your kind words. I will post the fourth bhaag as soon as I get done
with some bits of my, ahem, official work. Bringing work home from office is no fun, I
tell you.

BUT
Ke garne?
Kaam garnai paryo.
Khanai paryo. :-(
Anna paani ko sarir dhannai. paryo.

oohi
"feeling very busy and very lazy on this bright Sunday morning in CatManDo"
ashu
ktm,nepal
tabsher Posted on 29-May-04 10:26 PM

nice work ashutosh dai. loved the 'boston-based fantasy' part. its amazing how one's imagination, breaking the barriers of time and space, can travel from a beauty pageant hall in KTM to the banks of a river in Boston instantaneously.

An Indun Poet Posted on 05-Jun-04 03:10 AM

Ashu must've been talking about her...

Dariwal Posted on 07-Jun-04 11:07 AM

Ashu,

I am little confused to see the same writing posted in Nepali Times as this thread but under Bhupendra Sharma?
http://www.nepalnews.com/ntimes/issue199/nepalipan.htm

Do you mind calrifying
Thanks
Dariwal

ashu Posted on 07-Jun-04 06:49 PM

Dariwal,

Since the mid-90s, I have been publishing pieces of so-called satire/humor under the name of Bhupendra Rawat. So far, I have published about 20 pieces or so under
that name. For this "gori details" humor piece, I simply changed the name to
Bhupendra Sharma (or BS, in short!) :-)

oohi
ashu
meera Posted on 08-Jun-04 08:16 PM

Dai eagerly waiting for the rest. Chito post garnus na pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
darshankaka Posted on 14-Jun-04 02:20 PM

Hey Ashu,

keep on meditating... it will do good to your mind and your action. Probably you will never appear here in sajha once you purify your mind. Do not waste your time here... Try to dedicate the amount of time you used to spend here in sajha trying to be "intellectual' in teh meditation... then you will realize who you are, you will know the truth... Once you know the truth perhaps you will never appear here.