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| hellogbnc |
Posted
on 25-May-04 01:18 PM
Hello friends:
Friend of mine is moving to Toronto. He wants to go to school over there. I heard that it is very difficult for people to get admission to universities there. Is that true? Heard there are mostly public universities there that discourage immigrations to get into schools. What should one do to pursue higher education in Canada? Is it better to get admissions into private universities? Are there certain universities there that make it easier for immigrants to enroll?
Also, he is a civil engineer and I heard there is very little opportunity in that field over there. Is that true and if so what career path do Nepalese civil engineers who have immigrated there choose.
I know I am asking a lot of info here. I would appreciate any info from people who have immigrated to Canada and faced the same questions. Thank you.
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| suruchi |
Posted
on 25-May-04 01:34 PM
hello gbnc
it is easier to get admission in private schools
more later suruchi
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| yprabhas |
Posted
on 25-May-04 05:13 PM
Hey,
It is always difficult to get in to public university. It is also difficult to get job with the degree from else where. This is always true anywhere in the world.
Well in Canada, we have less public uni and the ones we have are very expensive. Very expensive compared to public uni. Well there are jobs available, still it is difficult to get one. I still think it is better to apply in one of the public uni and try your luck
Canada encourages immigrants, I beleive we stand in better position than Americans on this matter.
Cheers!
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| Casey00 |
Posted
on 25-May-04 07:43 PM
yprabhas:
Thanks for speaking up for the Canadians. I have to agree with you on most parts but again some of the stuffs you have said doesn't make sense to me...Maybe its becuase you have totally failed analyze the devilish side of Canadian Immigration policy...
Here are some reasons:
1) Canada is a much bigger country than most of the nations but it doesnt mean that all the places in canada can be populated. The vast majority of the Canadian land is not liveable...Canadian Immigration policy encourages WELL EDUCATED, HEALTHY AND WEALTHY people to live in their country...But the problem arises when MOST if not all Immigrant to Canada fail to acquire a respectable job....Forget about getting decent one...I have seen HUGE number of immigrants struggle to make a living...its freaky crazy!! Now you may question that it may happen to almost every immigrant going to any country...Well I agree...but again WHY GO THROUGH ALL THAT CRAP OF QUALIFICATIONS IF YOU AINT GONNA GIVE YOUR IMMIGRANTS JOBS? Just do what US is doing...in the name of diversity you can do a lottery or something and ask people to come to their country..BUt CANADA wont do that cuz it makes billions of dollars every year by making people pay for the entry to their country and also in the process BILLIONS of dollars enter the country as the immigrants are required to bring certain amount to money when they migrate...
On the other hand...Canada is also generous when it comes to giving asylum to political refugee...all the foreigners from states after 9/11 who are "supposedly" harrassed by the americans ask for political asylum in Canada which it generously gives....The refugees are taken care by the money made through legal immigrants!! infront of world..now who looks good? C ANDA yea!!! the top country in world development chart!! Most liveable country..and what not!!!!
BASICALLY WHAT CANADA IS DOING IS PIMPING THE IMMIGRANTS ..
hellogbnc: Since you fren is moving to Canada I would strongly recommend him to explore his oppurtunites before entering here...I mean there are very few cities in Canada and the popular ones are overyl populated so it might be hard to get admitted to univ or get a JOb....and ABT ENGG...i HAVE MET ATLEAST 25 ENGGS( nOT EXAGGERATING) WHO ARE EITHER WORKING IN A FACTORY OR DOING SOME LOEW LEVEL JOBS....SO UNLESS YOU ARE a GENIUS and LUCKY it would be hard to find a job...
Adios...
AND YES GO LEAFS GO :)
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| hellogbnc |
Posted
on 26-May-04 05:50 AM
Friends
Thank you for your replies. Casy00, I appreciate your frank and accurate response. You have confirmed my fears. Sounds like Canada sucks. For us immigrants, the only way out of low paying jobs is through education. Education gives us an opportunity to compete in an equal footing with the native born. If that basic opportunity is denied then I don't see what else is left.
If engineers need to work on the factory floor then what kind of country is that. I think I will have to tell my friend not to go there. I think it is better to come to the US, at least there is hope here (I know there are lot of recent gradutes out there who are having a tough time right now. Guys hang in there, things will get better.)
Anyway friends, if there are still some of you from Canada who still think there is opportunity in Canada, I would appreciate your response. Take care.
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| netaa_ji |
Posted
on 26-May-04 11:28 AM
Check out the gasoline price before moving into Canada..ha ha ah ah
Well, as an newly arrived immigrant, I dont think everyone will get a fantastic job that justifies their "degrees" in whatever field it might be. I think it is resonable to have high expections when moving into a developed country with a degree however I guess it is absolutely unreasonable to expect a quick fix.
I think CASEY- can better explain about CANADIAN EXPERIENCE.
So long....
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| marich |
Posted
on 26-May-04 11:37 AM
I heard My brother, lost since last December , is there too.. Credible Sajha Sulsule le bhanya. I have not heard from him for a while. If you all come across him, let him know I am eagerly waiting for his message.
Dear Bro Ji**, If you are reading this please Jhataro hanning me with email or phone ghumaing. Guff garna napayera chat -pat chat- pat bhai racha..
your always loving brother
Marich
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| hellogbnc |
Posted
on 26-May-04 12:39 PM
Friends
Thanks for the additional responses. Neeta_ji, my friend is not expecting a great job. He just wants to go back to school and make himself better prepared for the work environment there. Looks like it is very difficult to even go to school there. That is what I don't like about that place. Looks like most of the schools out there are public schools where it is impossible to get admission. Any suggestions. Anyone...
Regards
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| MillionDollars |
Posted
on 26-May-04 01:35 PM
All,
It seems to me that most of you think having a good native degree + some experience will land you a job you think you deserve.
You are missing out on the last but the most important item. Contacts or Networks. I would rank these in the following order of importance to get a great job.
1. Contacts
2. Experience
3. Education
Bottom line is if you can do your job well and have evidence and track record to back it up, who gives a fawk what degrees you have. I have seen this in many countries - Canada included.
My message is - just because you have a PhD in Economics - Do not expect to work as a chief economist for bank of Canada... Unless you happen to have the contacts in the bank...
That's my 2 cents.
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| netaa_ji |
Posted
on 26-May-04 01:57 PM
Hellogbnc...well, just for a reminder, my nick is NETAA_ji (just like political party ko netaa) not NEETA_ji (which would be a female name).
with regards,
THX.
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| hellogbnc |
Posted
on 26-May-04 03:18 PM
MillionDollars, I think we all know contacts is the most important tool for landing a job. Anyway, thanks for reminding us that point. Unfortunately, for most people the most difficult part it aquiring those contacts. By contacts, I mean effective ones that land you a job.
Netaa_ji, your point is taken. I am sure you must be feeling a bit uneasy being refered as a female where as in actuality you are a guy.
Friends, one more time. Could you please name some universities, colleges(private or public) where it would not be too difficult to get into. I am sure there are some where new Nepali immigrants are attending. I would appreciate your leads.
regards
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| Casey00 |
Posted
on 26-May-04 04:08 PM
netaa_Ji:
"I think CASEY- can better explain about CANADIAN EXPERIENCE"
Umm I don't know if that was said with sarcasm or something else ...But anyway I just spoke what I have been seeing everday but again I could be wrong..there could be some fairy tale stories somewhere...TO conclude I would have to say that immigrants here in Canada definitely have hard time landing a job than in US...
Hellogbnc: If your friend happens to get into an institution and pursues his further studies..then it might not be as bad as struggling to find a job..I think the best thing about studying in Canada is that you get loans with less hassle...plus its cheaper to study in Canada .so it all depends..
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| roc1432 |
Posted
on 26-May-04 07:22 PM
yo hellogbnc
the best thing ur fren can do is get in touch with the universities before moving to Canada..make sure he can atleast get some sort of financial aid before joining a schoool.... Where did he get his civil engineering degree from?... Whether he will get a job in his field of expertise entirely depends on whether he has a degree from a Regionally accredited college or not. Experience definitely counts. If ur fren has the required experience then he will more than easily get a job in his field. i know of many engineers who have got jobs in their fields, few months after migrating to America. HOwever they have had some degree from western countries.
Like Casey said, going to school might be the next best choice. If he goes to school for two or three years, he will get used to the place and in the mean time as well have a better chance of getting a job in engineering compared to if he just starts looking for a job right away. He should also get internship in an Engineering firm. .THis will put him in a better situation. I am pretty sure.. ur fren will manage whether he comes to AMerica or Nepal.
IF he does choose to look for a job right away, the best bet would be applying at firms with Indian Management..
The first couple of years will be tough .. regardless of the fact whether he gets a job or not.. well Good luck to your fren.
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