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| ashu |
Posted
on 02-Jun-04 11:34 PM
With fellow Nepalis being killed right and left everyday, and with political uncertainties and troubles still ahead, this is NEITHER the time NOR the occasion to start preparing for a GRAND birthday party.
oohi
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Panel to mark King's birthday formed
(nepalnews.com)
A 1,058-member celebration committee to celebrate King Gyanendra's 58th birthday was formed on Wednesday. The birthday falls on July 6 and the committee plans weeklong celebrations.
Former prime minister, Kriti Nidhi Bista is to chair the committee, with Thakur Prasad Mainali as the co-chairman. The members of the committee elected Surendra Bir Malakar as the general secretary of the celebration committee. A 39-member management committee was also formed. nepalnews.com pd June 03 04
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| Epitome |
Posted
on 02-Jun-04 11:48 PM
What about a similar committee here in Sajha, afterall the great King is either himself turning the screw tight on himself or his so called wellwishers are acting like monkyes with swords guarding the king sleeping, and an irritating fly testing their wit.
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| VincentBodega |
Posted
on 03-Jun-04 08:51 AM
let me ask this,
has not there been marriage of grand scale, birthday parties, night outs, sajha gatherings, the infamous SURYA GRIND etc. etc. admist the so called "Nepalis being killed right and left everyday." If we have not changed our ways in this ever increasing gap between the middle class and the lower class, why should the King who has been doing this for his lifetime change?
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| Poonte |
Posted
on 03-Jun-04 10:19 AM
Vinny,
It's very simple:
[Because] An individual Nepali is answerable to only him/herself when it comes to celebrating his/her private life. On the other hand, King G, as a proclaimed leader of the Kingdom of Nepal who apts to hire PUBLIC servants, using PUBLIC funds, to organize his birthday party, is/should be answerable to 2 1/2 karod+ of his Nepali subjects, vast majority of whom are suffering tremendously in one way or the other.
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| SITARA |
Posted
on 03-Jun-04 10:40 AM
Wah! Poonte, scalpelled with such fine dexterity! :)
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| rosie |
Posted
on 03-Jun-04 11:12 AM
Recently, when Prince Phillipe of Spain got married, the royal family urged the people not to make a big deal out of the wedding, in deference to the about 1,000 ppl killed in the terrorist attack in a Spanish commuter train.
But, no matter how many people in Nepal die, nothing will stop our maharaj dhiraj gyanu from from making a razzmatazz out of his "hyappy budday."
Let him be, folks. After all, he's only gotten to celebrate it fifty-seven times already.
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| Binay |
Posted
on 03-Jun-04 11:15 AM
Poote, I totally agree with you. It seems like it's a desparate act on the King's part to show off that he is popular. Nothing more than a feudal mindset. Only result that comes out of this is "who gets GO.DA.WAs"?
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 03-Jun-04 11:25 AM
Poonte bro,
One more disagreement. I hope you won't be coming after me with your khukuri..
Why not? What's harm in having a 1058 member committee? The committe doesn't do anything anyways, it juts publishes a Smarika and organzies a Malyarpan Karyakram. That's it.
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 03-Jun-04 11:28 AM
And not a single paisa of the state is spent on those- malyarpan and smarika. They raise the money from various business houses. Come on, when the political parties ask for "donations" with the members of Champer of Commerce for elections, its alright but when the committe asks for contributions to celebrate the King's b'day, its not right.,. kasto hypocrisy (sp?) ho yo... gajjjab cha ba!@
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| alnepali |
Posted
on 03-Jun-04 12:34 PM
Urrrgghhh...
Stuff like this infuriates the hell outta me. A 1,000 + member committe to celebrate King G's Birthday? What do we have here? Competing for who can "red-nose" better?
Who is paying up for this anyways?
- King G... Doubt it.
- The "Reindeers"?.. Maybe, with their "Ghusiya" Funds.
- The General "Tax" Funds... Most Likely and there is nothing we could do about it. You and I don't question the use of general "tax" funds, do we?
Wait a minute, did I forget something? Isn't this how the State is run anyways.
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| andolan_61 |
Posted
on 03-Jun-04 01:35 PM
Isoleted Freak, it seems like you were in that commitee before. Otherwise, who told you that they don't spend single paisa for this commitee. Do you know how much allowance comitee member and chairman make in Nepal?
you are comparing king with political parties. I hope you know that political party always ask for donation, even in america. I am just wondering " why you so are so blind king supporter"? It's nice to look at the think with broad vision dude.........
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| Poonte |
Posted
on 03-Jun-04 02:22 PM
IF,
Aafu tyo khukuri bhirera bideshiyeko pani 15 barsha bho ni gaanthe! Gaam hunda po Kaali Gandaki ko kinaarai basera tyo dhunga le ghoti ghoti dhaar laauthem.
Aba ta...15 barsha samma dhaar launa napaako...tyo laahai nabhaako khukuri le kei ni khyansdaina...gardhan ma jhundayera maalaa laaye maattrai ho! Daraaunai pardaina tyo jaabo khukuri sanga...aafai tukriyela baru...timlai kaatdaina hau, maailaa! ;)
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Now, on your counter-arguments...
1. Even if those 1058 men and women are doing the service voluntarily, i.e., no monetary costs (in terms of paying for human resources) is involved in their efforts to organize King G's birthday, I would say that the time and energy that they might spend on "publishing a Smarika and Malyarpan Karyakram" can be better used on other services that the general public can benefit from. Why do they need a 1058-member committee to publish a Smarika and perform Malyarpan Karyakram anyway? Furthermore, I think many of us are well aware of royal birthday celebrations that involves spending LAAKHOUN RUPIYAS on grandiose programs at Dashrath Rangashala, which is far from being a mere Malyarpan Karyakram.
2. Funds that are collected from business -- institutions and individuals alike -- are also PUBLIC funds.
3. I have yet to see a birthday celebration of a political leader on the level that royal birthdays are celebrated, especially the ones that involves using the funds that are collected as "donations" from businesses.
4. When political parties collect donations from the public, it is PRESUMED that they will be using those funds to promote and foster PUBLIC AGENDAS -- we do not EXPECT (realities aside) the political parties to spend those funds to benefit the leaders personally. I think it is only fair to expect similar gestures from the King when the public pays taxes and/or gives donations to his institution.
5. Finally, even when the political parties misuse the funds in other ways than birthday celebrations -- of which I do not WHATSOEVER have doubts, that doesn't justify the King misusing public funds.
Saano chhanda haamra baa le bhanthyo kya...falana ko chhora le, dhiskana ko chhora le goo khayo bhandaima ta pani khaanchhas ta?
IF, you know very well that I personally do not prescribe to the Republican's agenda of completely abolishing the institution of monarchy either -- I have my own reasons to believe that Nepal needs the Monarchy, albeit with a limited authority. That does not mean, however, that I fansy the idea of blanket support to Monarchic absolutism. WHEN HE IS WRONG, HE IS WRONG! I believe the monarchy should be reigned in under the constitution, thereby the public should have the right to question even his Majesty when the issues like his grandiose birthday celebrations arise, for instance; and it should be the monarch's duty to answer to his subjects with due sincerity.
When the King does little to suggest to his supporters to refrain from spending LAAKHOUN RUPIYAS on his birthday, I think he only lowers himself to the level of the very political leaders that his supporters are critical of, which obviously gives more ammunitions to his own critics.
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Baafre...Sajha ma yesto laamo nalekhya dherai bhaa thyo...aunlai dukhyo yaar! BTW, how does that khukuri ko maalaa look on my gardhan? Jhilke dekhdina ta? ;)
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 04-Jun-04 07:55 AM
Poonte Bro,
take that rusty khukuri off your gardhan.... feri dasha lagya belama titanus hola. aani injection lauda lauda hairaan..
anwyays, brother, the thing is, out of those 1058 members, 1000 don't do anything. Believe me, they are just there and their names are published at the last pages of Smarika. Now the remaing 58. They do some work. They go collect money- again, no one is forced to donate. They organize talk programs and they are the ones who talk. So no outside experts who gets paid. The only people who get paid are the people who contribute articles/poems to the smarika. And its not 100000, its a meager 800-1000 and a free copy of smarika. again those people aren't writing for the money anyway. The committe spends money on providing GOOD food to the kids at Balmandir and to the people at the Pashupati Bridhashram. There are art openings too- but the art(s) is not about the King or the royal family. Inspirting artists get an occassion to display their paintings/sculptures because the galleries tend to lend the space for free or for lower fee for few days to mark the King's b'day. In a way, you get to see the art works of artists who cannot afford the galleries' fees. So its not spent on whsikey/beer and chicken chillya s you might have thought. A significant chunk of the money raised is spent on charity works. Also the last pages of smarika will have the name of the people who contributes money and those are the people who love the King and they are contributing the money tos how their love and resepct to the King, without any lovh-lalach for takma, power and positions.. some of them are retired army officers, some of them are Professors, some of them are ex-ministers, some of them are sahityakars, some of them are patrakars, some of them are diplomats, some of them are artists, some of them are people who have already won GoDaBas and all the decorations of Nepal..
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| isolated freak |
Posted
on 04-Jun-04 07:59 AM
again its my view.. and you are free to disagree. maybe you have more knowledge of these kind of celebrations, but this is all I know, and based on what I know, I don't see why people have to make a huge issue out of it. again, this is what i know, and i am not saying I know everything nor i am underestimating/udnermining your knowledge/sources.
la ta bro.. baru hami pani maharajdhiraj ko subha janmotsab ko upalaxyama yeso ek peg laune ki.. double shot.. k cha bichar?
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| Dhatterika!!! |
Posted
on 05-Jun-04 12:20 AM
This is utterly outrageous. Such actions by the king and his bharaute sycophants demonstrate nothing but display of utter contempt, arrogance and disregard for the sufferings of the helpless people of Nepal. When the entire country is burning from Mechi to Mahakaali and the nirdhaa nimukhaa janatas are suffering from never ending atrocities and violence perpetreted both by the Maoists and the State apparatus, these 1058 bhusyaha/ghusyaha bharaute kukkurs and the self serving monarch are emtying the nation's Dhukuti in such meaningless and indecent display of grandeur. This is the height of indecency! No words are sufficient to condemn such activities. If there is even an iota of decency left among the so called democratic political parties and the diplomatic community in Kathmandu, they should boycott such activities.
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| VincentBodega |
Posted
on 07-Jun-04 01:11 PM
Poonte,
" [Because] An individual Nepali is answerable to only him/herself ..."
well if you are gonna underestimate the obligations a nepali carries towards his/her pupils then may be we are looking at our limitations and priviledges from two different view points. Think about this... if all the "able" Nepalese were to spend money in the foreign market, Nepal and the Nepalese would be more hungry and more naked than today...
So if you want a better living standards for all the 2.5 crore Nepalese may be its time we stop outsourcing our capitals in the name of "we are answerable to ourselves."
About King G, I would say he should hire 105800000 Nepalese if he can, at least it will feed them, bring some money to the family that did not have any...
now tell me whos doing whom the better good?
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| Kalekrishna |
Posted
on 07-Jun-04 10:03 PM
Having worked as member of Chitwan mahotsav committee on several ocassions, I agree with IF's information. It is the selected few who really work, rest name is just to ensure that they are present on that day with their daura suruwal and medals hanging out, and in some instance to make them happy to tempt them to donate some money (mostly these bunch are very sting, hard to get cash out of them! anyone taking things personal to this harsh remark does at his/own risk).
Yes, some money do gets mispent with faulty bills being presented. And yes at the end of the ocassion most gathers to have nice time with drinks and good food, generally the party will take place in one of the members resturant and one or more of the rich shot will pay for the bill beyond what can be extracted out of the committee fund, and the party goes on to praise the success of the ocassion and praise of the one sponsoring the night. Hard work of few will be overshadowed by the creadit that will go to those big fishes and they are in the front of the que to welcome the VIP/s, while thousands of hands that are foundation of the success goes unnoticed.
No idea with royal activities, but with experience from Mahotsavs, things must be similar. And yes, there is mismanagement of funds in giving contracts that goes to those selected friends of the chairman or secreteray of the committee or some other influential ones. One more, the publication of sovienar will give opportunity for the close ones of the publication memmers to have their work preffered over non recomended work, unless exceptionally excelent.
This is how it works in Nepal, and to change it there are sacrifices to make by individuals and nation.
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| An Indun Poet |
Posted
on 07-Jun-04 10:37 PM
1058 memeber b'day committee, 2 million USD worth of cars, 10 mil USD worth of yearly expenses, this is all we have to pay for keeping the "seto hatti". Its time we let the hatti loose. Does anyone know the b'day of any leaders of Nepal? Are we ever celebrating BP's b'day or MKB's or any present day leaders, NO.
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| Velvet_Revolver |
Posted
on 07-Jun-04 11:14 PM
Yo indun_poet .....
Right on bro right on...! 1058 comittee members for freakin B'Day celebretion? You fukin kidding me?I think we had enough of this bullshit. Come on now guys, how can a country with unemployment over 90% afford to pay these 1058 rich people an overtime for a worth less celebration? It's about time we stuff up corks up their asses ...freakin Hypocrites...!
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| Epitome |
Posted
on 07-Jun-04 11:22 PM
This is bit more, it is not the right time for all these craps. If the king wanted to raise in his subjects eye, he should have avoided all these extravenga and spent his birthday visiting destitutes and his most underprevieledged and destitute subjects and later given a personal party to his close ones.
Well, who am I to say, I celebrate my birthday my way, he have everyright for his, the only problem here is he has to face his populace while I mine father for the finance.
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