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| andolan_61 |
Posted
on 03-Jun-04 09:33 AM
There is lot of discussion going on between Ashu and Biswo. I think it is nothing more than Ego. They both have some kind of Ego problem. I don't understand why Ashu got too much problem with Bahuns from village. Ashu, what's wrong with supporting Girija? Do you have some kind of anti Girija and pro king's BHUT? what are you trying to say when you mention " From village to Top university in USA" ? I think everyone in sajha knows that you are " FRom Katmandu to Top University in USA". I think most of sajha participants from KTM's rich family so that i don't wonder why they support King rather than political party cuz they knows how their parents accumulate money to send them abroad.
One more fact to Ashu, most of the intelluctuals, politician , lawyers, bussinessman are more village. I could name of them. Some of them are Biswo Nath Upadhaya, Sambu thapa, Golchha Family, chowdhury Family, current primeminister to elected first prime miniter. That wonders me what did Kathmadu people did to county besides corrupt the country. I am not generalizing here but that's what i see in majority.
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| ubiquitous |
Posted
on 03-Jun-04 10:10 AM
Hey andolan,
I think u should not use "Biswo's name" in your own views, since u'r posting has nothing to do with Ashu Vs Biswo. Its about YOU Vs Ashu, perhaps! you understand better what i'm trying to say.
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| ssNY |
Posted
on 03-Jun-04 01:12 PM
Ashu v Biswo? this is Andolon 61 v Ashu's bhut
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| andolan_61 |
Posted
on 03-Jun-04 01:30 PM
I clearely see one thing in Ashu's writing. He has same problem as other so called intellectuals who think they are correct, everyone else is wrong. I don't even understand why he doesn't accept " Evil word" for king. It's freedom of speech. People can tell whatever they want to the king in this time when majority of political party is saying that country is going toward Republicanism and king is losing his ground so NO one has to respect him cuz he doesn't have support of majority of people. If ashu or king want respected words from people, king should go for JANMAT SANGRYA AND find out the sentiments of nepali people
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| andolan_61 |
Posted
on 04-Jun-04 08:36 AM
No wonder Ashu is quiet for couple days
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| GP |
Posted
on 04-Jun-04 09:05 AM
a61,
I am not sure why do you want Ashu to endorse Biswo's use of word
"evil"? Will it be legitimate if ashu endorses the word? If Biswo's use
of word is justified only based on Ashu's endorsement, then, Biswo
should not be tussling with Ashu, just the way Girija is expecting his
name to be 5 party consensus candidate, and anything is else is
just void. If guys here judge the quality of someone's posting based
on ashu's endorsement (publicly), then, ashu has right to reject
those words and he is doing fine by rejecting Biswo's biased use of
the word. Biswo is too much confined with the blame on King, while
Girija is the main culprit of all this mess and his all moves are to
make him PM and his ambition of making NC united because of the
power he holds as PM of Nepal, I mean he think that the divisions
can be zipped in if there are chances to exploit national resources.
Is not it his ill fated move. girija should first pave red carpets in
NC by leaving the chair post and bringing a new in top NC position.
He is no more deliverable. He is waste and should be dumped, and
he has hijacked NC CWC because of his relatives and puppets.
King G gave him a great blow by making Deoba a PM. deoba is young
(compared to Girija) and energetic. He is not perfect, but, better than
girija.
GP
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 04-Jun-04 03:43 PM
> Biswo is too much confined with
> the blame on King, while Girija is
> the main culprit of all this mess .
Guruji,
Let me provide you with some perspective of the Nepali politics as we understand today.
As soon as democratic governments were formed, there has been consistent attempts from different segments of our society to discredit the system. The way this attempt works is following: you attack every players of the politics, you attack NC, you attack UML, you attack every party, primarily based on the conduct of some individuals.
Why so?
Because that weans commoners away from politics. This is classic political legerdemain of politics. People like you and me start saying, "Oh, politics is a dirty game. We don't want to pay attention to it." By doing so, people in power can create vacuum, vacuum of attention, so that the only persons who pay attention to the politics are those who have vested interest in it. The most pestilential thing that can occur to democracy is when the common people fail to pay attention when the nation and its resources cry for scrutiny.
I think it was Einstein who first said even in vacuum, things can move. By saying so, he laid foundation to the school of thought that it is possible for humankind to travel in vacuum, beyond vacuum, to other planets/satellites.
In our political context, there is this vacuum where people don't pay attention, but things are still moving like rockets: and the kings, his henchmen, and perhaps the others too, lay their hand on every resources that should have been spent on bridges, hospitals, primary care, first aid, roads etc etc. We may be apathetical to the system, but it is uninterrupted, and people will be benefitting from our apathy.
So, we need to be vigilant on who is doing what, who is taking our money, who is monopolizing our resources for personal/family use, and whether that is correct or not. In other words, we need to be ready to call a spade a spade, an evil king an evil, and an evil politican an evil politician.
Failure to do so would be a sorry thing when we look back to our adult life from our old days.
Confidence, courage, rectitude, individual ability to descriminate right from wrong, stationary from tide, are the necessary attributes for our young men/women, if we were to rely upon them to construct a great nation: Nepal.
Are you ready for that? Well, I hope so.
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| darshankaka |
Posted
on 04-Jun-04 04:53 PM
Ashu could not fit in USA... that's the fact.. that;s the complex he has. That;s why he appears in sajha too much to show off as if he is a great mahaan guy.
Something is definitely wrong with this guy.
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| ashu |
Posted
on 04-Jun-04 06:03 PM
Darshankaka et al,
Thank you.
I remain amused and unprovoked.
I wish you much success in all that you do.
****
I also note that it's been only 14 years since we 2 Karod Nepalis have realized that there ARE indeed MANY, MANY ways of looking at any issue, and that opinionated people who have a mind of their own people can STRONGLY disagree with one
another, even heatedly . . . and that's perfectly OK.
Panchayat used to force down one viewpoint on all of us, declaraing other viewponts
to be "a-rastriya-tatwa". In the last 14 years, many of us still have NOT been
exposed to a vigorous debating culture anywhere, but have learnt to substitute "a-rastriya-tatwa" with "ego", as though that were a bad thing.
Our learning curve here is still steep.
Then again, I am an optimist.
I look forward to the day when sharp and vigorous idea-related conflicts are seen and accepted as a way to EXPAND our collective perspectives on any issue. Ironically, to take part to benefit from such exchanges requires a pretty healthy ego and a sense
of resilience on our part.
After all, would it not be utterly boring and lifeless to live in a world that's like some make-believe, forced amity-ville where constant "wah-wah" of one another is the desired standard?
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| An Indun Poet |
Posted
on 04-Jun-04 06:08 PM
Chill Out....
----------------
Ashu says he is the conservative type who thinks women
look better dressed modestly in long skirt and loose
blouses. I almost believed him until one Saturday when
we drove into town and came across a group of local
students running a carwash as a fundraiser. Young
women were everywhere in their bikinis, waving signs
and washing cars. It was quite a sight and I said to
Ashu, "Look at those girls in their skimpy bikinis."
Casting an eye over at the carwash, Ashu didn't say
anything. A moment later, a smile came over Bill's
face, and he said with a gleam in his eye, "I love
summer."
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| ashu |
Posted
on 04-Jun-04 06:11 PM
IP,
What's that Bill fellow doing there in that joke? :-)
oohi
"enjoying a ramailo sanibaar morning"
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| nsshrestha |
Posted
on 04-Jun-04 07:01 PM
Ashu,
enjoying a ramailo sanibaar morning - jhyal ma, looking at the passers by ho? I mean goats :)
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| darshankaka |
Posted
on 04-Jun-04 09:00 PM
The problematic person rarely admits that they have problems with the wirings in his/her brain. It's worthwhile to understand why we think the way we think. Once you realize why, you will immediately stop all the nonsense actions from your side.
Ashu, try to meditate at elast 2 hours a day, to understand how your mind is working these days... can you face that challenge?
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| darshankaka |
Posted
on 04-Jun-04 09:03 PM
Same challenge for Biswo as well... otherwise people think that I am baised.
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| rauniyar |
Posted
on 04-Jun-04 11:11 PM
Hi all,
IMHO, yeah, someone needs to meditate (not literally) and it is not Biswo!!!
Uhi Rajeev,
CT Amrika
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| Prem Charo |
Posted
on 04-Jun-04 11:49 PM
Ashu Vs Biswo:
What a topic. I am laughing. hahaha!! Here is what I have observed in the difference:
1. Biswo can talk in such a low manner, while Ashu deals with people with very diplomatic manner.
2. Biswo is a pure A.MA.LE, where Ashu's politically confused...
3. Ashu lives in Nepal and talk with more experienced in the situation of Nepal, where Biswo talks with what he reads in books and news and proclaims he's the topper of "villege_school_to_top_university_of_the_US".
4. Biswo is fanatics while Ashu is over-sassy
More later...
Difference garne charo = prem charo
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| An Indun Poet |
Posted
on 05-Jun-04 12:52 AM
Ashu thinks he knows it all, Bishwo knows it all.............
:)
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| ProudNepali |
Posted
on 09-Jun-04 06:14 PM
IT's the Perspective that matters.
Politics is a mess. That's what it really is.
I personally do not support the Current King or the future king.. but I had no problems with the Continuation of the culture of "KINGs" and "Queens." King Birendra Is a Hero in my eyes.. even though I realize he could have done certain things in a better fashion.
The increasing hatred of the Nepalli people towards the King has so much to do with the rise of the Maoism and the Unforgettable RAJdARbaR hAtyaKAnda (that's my observation). Eventhough soucres reportedly Blamed late King ( Crown prince) Dipendra for all the misfortunes.... the Nepali people aren't convinced yet. So that'a a big mystery. And on top of that the Poilitcal failure, the economic downfall, poverty ................. and all add up.
Talking about the Sytem of King..... I guess majority of the Nepali people are against the rule of the present king and the certainity (if I can call it) of his son being the Future king rather than the Sytem of King itself.
It can be a good thing when there is THE authorative figure of the highest post who doesn't get directly involved in the REAL politics of the state, but does take charge as the TIME calls for it. OF course the PResidential system is a good one.. yet I do not see anything wrong with the Prime Minister + King system. PRime minister still does the job of the president yet he is monitored by someone else also (People and the KING).
I wish King Birendra was still alive.
Jai Nepal
(pardon if I diverted from what had been discussed in here)
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| confused |
Posted
on 09-Jun-04 09:11 PM
hahahahahaha what a topppic.....i loopp it..
i think next one should be Sitara vs Nepe :)
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| Dr. Strangelove |
Posted
on 10-Jun-04 04:28 AM
I guess you mean to say Sitara V Isolated Freak. Nepe and Sitara are in the same camp!
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| confused |
Posted
on 10-Jun-04 02:03 PM
ooh hahaha..my bad..
it was supposed to be Sitara with Nepe :)
imagine the outcome!!!! :)
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| darshankaka |
Posted
on 14-Jun-04 08:44 AM
I wonder if Ashu has already started meditating these days...
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| ebaje |
Posted
on 14-Jun-04 02:02 PM
ASHU is none but Whochi mama. 1 no ko Mandale.
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| darshankaka |
Posted
on 14-Jun-04 02:19 PM
Hey Ashu,
keep on meditating... it will do good to your mind and your action. Probably you will never appear here in sajha once you purify your mind. Do not waste your time here... Try to dedicate the amount of time you used to spend here in sajha trying to be "intellectual' in teh meditation... then you will realize who you are, you will know the truth... Once you know the truth perhaps you will never appear here.
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| darshankaka |
Posted
on 15-Jun-04 03:21 PM
Ashu, still it's not time for you to come out here in sajha.. Keep on meditating as suggested. Who knows you will never come here once you get enlightment.
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