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| GurL_Interrupted | Posted
on 09-Jun-04 01:42 PM
What ever U may want to call it...! Sometimes, I tend to think a lot, when I mean 'lot'...I mean a lot...U know...! I been thinking for a while now, "What actually is the true purpose of ur life in this world?" U know, us humans, we argue, we fight...I dunno for what...We make our points, which we believe to be right, when in reality it might be false, coz there's no way to prove that it's right. I mean hisotry shows us how wrong our realities have been many times. For example, if you just look in science...Scientists discover something only to be proven down the road that it wasn't actually correct. Yet at the time, when nothing is there to counteract and prove us wrong, we believe (pretend to put it precisely) that our world is correct. It's kind of scary to think, what we think of as a reality might actually turn out to be a lie in the end. Or u can take an example of history, one country or one power overthrows another power and is considered the most powerful creature in the world...but then that super power doesn't remain powerful all along, someone else more powerful comes and overthrows it. What's the point of all this? What's the point and purpose...the true purpose of our life in this world? Is it just to eat, sleep, live...leave our mark in this world? But for what? I know I might sound absurd, but then how can you prove I am one? Even if you do for now, you might actually be the absurd one? Sigh...Maybe, I should take off to Himalayas and meditate the true purpose of living in this world besides merry making etc...? But then come to think of it, I'll probably forget my ultimate concern for heading towards himalays and be lost in trifle matters of life...! Sigh! Anybody got any answers to my questions? Still searching, Miss_Interruptus! |
| sense | Posted
on 09-Jun-04 02:44 PM
Well gurl ur question is just right....human has a nature to ask question how, why, where, when n its nature to seek more luxury for itself is just the reason. We r constantly derived by these question which in turn will ignite our instinct to get more answers n to get more answers we tend to do a lot of things n during the process we find the things n due to our ambitious nature we want to be the first to find...n thats how it gets going. Otherwise there is no difference between humans n animals if it is just for survival. this question is to be answered more philosophically but I wrote what in my point of view is the basics our existence. Others may have different opinion n I bet u will find numerous of them. this is a good thread after some mono politics....Give ur views guys. |
| rajni | Posted
on 09-Jun-04 03:05 PM
I think the true meaning of our life is to understand ourselves; here understanding ourselves means to understand the kind of person we are. We are all different from each other. What gives me happiness may not give the other one. I think meditation is not a bad idea!!!!!!!! But as far as going to Himalaya is concern I prefer my small prayer room cuz it saves me from worrying if my daughter had her breakfast or done with her home work!! Well sis nice piece of work. We all are looking for the true meaning of life. I think being content with what we have and what we are is really important cuz only contentment gives us happiness and we can contribute to the family or world only when if we are happy. |
| observer | Posted
on 09-Jun-04 03:40 PM
I too, had a question a while back: - http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/OpenThread.cfm?forum=2&ThreadID=14885 |
| Dananah | Posted
on 09-Jun-04 03:46 PM
oho dherai ramro thread ni...(as good but not as good..:P as the other topic i talk about these days..:P alik bias ni ..;) sorrry..neutral me is gone when it comes to comparing anything with someone ;)..) anyways what is the purpose of life...isnt that smthing we always think about..esp if we have lots of time in hand.(kayho GI really freen these days??:P)..smthing everyone has been thinking of for ages..to try and find an answer...and countless answers there are..:S well heres my thoughts in this matter(cos once i was so damn free..bummer days..did think abou this a lot)...from me experiece(which aint a lot..:S still got lots to experience.see...read and learn...)..well i have noticed in meself that..well life ko meaning ni dherai change huncha..:S..when i was younger..all wanted was do well..earn lots of $$...get a good job..go sadhi..babies tanna having..football team bannaying..:P.. (actually hehe i still wanna football team of babies..errrr well at least 5 aside football team hunna??..:P.hehe....so mero future..budi..if i marry that is..hehe start worrying!!!..:P wahahaha..man what if..i did marry...and well me wife was an avid sajha reader..u never know what future in store has hoina??hehe ..nex time she will be rambling to me..that she should have heeded this warning..taken it a bit more seriously hehe..wah wah...kay majah topic to talk about in the future..if that happens hehe..i can visualize it...telling her..." Oi mero 5-aside football team ko mum..kay tension logeyko..aijah ma sannga bas..ani tini haru lai football maja lei kehlnu day"...akha mari mari hehe...ani she gets risshing and starts saying...bhangwaan...ma esto huncha tapayeko bah...but in the end she comes..sits beside me...feels great having her beside u...just makes u so comfortable..and well having ur wife beside u.. the woman u knew want to spend ur life time with...the one u wanna keep happy forever..the smile she gives to u..time to time..wah!!! thio smile that u are willing give ur life to see it.. ;)...and looking at ur 5-aside team baachass...playing football..kicking the ball the way u thought u must have when u were young ..the way they are jaagadying...for the ball...and smiling when they get the ball...the kinda smile which reminds u of..ur wife smile..wah!!.then she lies her head on ur chest cos shes a bit tired..after tryiing to keep the kids clean..away from the grass..but has give up now...oho!!..kya majah feeling..and then u realize at that moment of time...actually u always knew it..thats life..thats what ur life purpose was about...seeing ur family and the ppl u lop...happy..seeing the smile of the future...ur present..laughing at the bad times..u had in that past..and knowing that whatever happens in the future..u will alwasy be trying hard to make sure those smiles stays there...;)..OHO!! dherai dreaming garyo!!!..ps i took the whole thing from some book..:P..dun shout at me for typing crap hai...shout at th author..but hehe i wont tell the name..so hehe forget it..:P ) oops where was i...hehe...anyways life to me..well..means trying to extract all the good things(heard the dialogue in some movie hehe.cant remember..plagiarism king ni ma ;)) ...as much as i can get from life..everyday...live one day at a time cos future is really unpredictable..:S..(and dreaming too...is a good thing hai..;)..dreams makes ur life better..:D..its smthing that makes us look foward too..what we dream today...well we wont be dreaming of it tomorrow..dream changes..the point is..we should dream ;) )...when i say extract..it can be anything...if seeing another person happy...makes u happier do it..family strangers?? whoever ..if u re loucky enuf to have met that person u wanna keep happy forever ;)..if not..well keep on smiling..u never know whats around the corner...a nice surprise for u?? maybe not..but the next turn..after this turn..might be...of that too isnnt..well the next next turn might be...if that isnt hehe.the next next next one could be good..:P..ok think i emphasized me point... so much things out there..but it does make it more worthwhile knowing u helped someone or made a diff to someone..(at the end of it all..dun we we feel good well sm ppl still think of u...in a nice way of cos..:P..when ur gone?? knowing that..u did smthings which u can be happy about....life does feel a lot better when u try to live for others...(dun try too hard though..:P u cna never please everyone..:S)..anyways what am i typing..think went out of topic..by me lack of concentration..(kay garney..these days..mero mind ra heart ma someone alwasy coming ;).she is the most distrative thing i ever known of..other than sajha ;)..hehe )... oops too long hehe... )))))Continued below...--------------------((((((((((((((((((((((9 |
| Dananah | Posted
on 09-Jun-04 03:47 PM
))))))continued..--------((((((((( ok will write in straight(i hope it is straight..:P) points... to me..life is well..well..dherai tension maat lohging thinking about it..(it happens when ur free..:S..so keep urself busy..:D ..easy to say..but hard to do..:S)..its too short...to waste our time thinking..live it..:D..bad..or good...well take it in ur stride..cos int he end its about experience ..u learn from it and..well..start treasuring smthings..:D...guess thru experiece we will find out what we are supposed to do with our life(that is if we r lucky enuf to expereince thos kinda stuffs..not eveyone is lucky lik that ni..i know ..i am ;)..still a lot fo questions in me head about life..but then i already ans to some of them..the rest it will come in time..dherai tension not lohging..:D)...everybody will have smthing diff to do...but in the end..it does feel good knowing..u did make some ppl smile and happy..(and by trying hehe..what u dun try in..we cant take credit for that can we?)..happiness sharing..:D...and that well they do remember u for those good things..who wanna remember bad memories hoina?? i mean say me no more in the world...(of cos i wont have the privelege of still thinking when im gone..im just another thing in this world which breathes..and eats..and thinks when it is alive..dun other animals think?? how can we ever assume..they dun?maybe the dogs are smiling and barking each day thinking..look at us humans topahs..change clothes..doing dunny stuffs most of the times not happy..smtimes are...while they enjoy their life..food is brought to them by stupid us..we are a servant to them..hearing all their yelps..they only thing they need to get our attn is to do some dumb trick they could do with their eyes closed..but just too darn lazy to do it hehe..etc) ..what is left of me is..well memories of me .with ppl i knew when i was alive hoina?? and doesnt it feel great knowing that they are thinking of u...smtimes when they smile..cos they remember smthings that u did with them...or for them..and well good things ni..;) lah enuf of life...life for me now is to finish me assigns..:S..dherai BS garyo ajo...stress thio...:S...life is BS hoina??oho achi!!!! kay majah.. topahni...Mwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh..!!!yaad timro dherai ayo..;)...lop u..:D cheers :D.. and err hope no one mind me blabberings..thats all i have ..and thats all i can share ni..;)..and me sure dun make sense here too..so hehe..dun let that get into ..;) 
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| netaa_ji | Posted
on 09-Jun-04 04:14 PM
Some answers to Gurl Interrupted.. The universe itself and everything in the universer is casually linked. All things are composite things, that is they are composed of several elements. Because all things are composite, they are all transitory, for the elements come together and then fall apart. The universe and all the things in the universe is not what it is, infact it is what is about about to become in the next second, minute, hour, day, year, century and so on and therefore the entire universe and all the things in this universe are in the continous "pocess of becoming". The "process of becoming" applies to everything and it includes such abstract things like perception, sense, reality, time, nature, feelings, emotions and anything our minds can imagine and recognize. The truth as we might call it (I rather like to call it "the reality" or "the fact") is also bounded by the law of change. It is also transitory in nature or is in the ever continuing "process of becoming" something else. Therefore the truth which might have been discovered as "the truth" for some perticular time, place, event and circumstance will cease to remain as "the truth" for the different time, place, event and circumstance and it is the actual nature of "the reality" or "the fact" or "the truth" you might call it. For me it is absolutely no surprise for me to be proven the truth of a perticular time,place,event and circumstance to be proven something else down the road since "the truth" or "the reality" and "the fact" is also a part of this universe or exists within the scope of the universe and cannot escape the fundamental law and process of change or "the process of becoming". The defination of "the truth" or "the reality" or "the fact" become more complex as we add "perception" into its deminsion. We as human desire our own perception of reality to be the correct one and expect it to be understood and to be followed by others axactly as we understand it. Since the perception of the same thing can vary in one individual to another and when the action and reaction arisen by the perception of two or more individuals (or between the groups or induviduals) clash, the fight for supremacy breaks out because the action and reaction arisen by an individual may not be desirable for another individual since he/she has his/her own perception of the same reality. This can range from person-to-person to group-to-group eventually may make it up to fight between country-to-country given that cause,time, place, event and circumstance allow so. Other elements such as intolerence, impatience, ego, arrogance, hatred etc in and between the individuals or groups greatly magnify the action and the reaction generated by perception of an individual or a group. Since there will always be someone or some group who would perceive and understand the reality differently than an individual or a group does because so many arguments can be put forward from so many different perspectives in favour and against something by an individual or a group . Therefore there is absolutely no absolute solution to this difficulty however there are ways to make this difficulty less problematic. That is by having 'the right motivation' followed by 'the right action' through thought, action and speech. Better understanding, tolerence, patience and sense of co-existence greatly reduce the chances of clash. Here is one example...of a story of two individuals who both had right motivation followed by the right action according to their motivation however their perception was so different to each other. A man was walking along a lonely trail during a rainy day. On his way he encountered a statue of a goddess along the way. He looked up at the statue, stopped infront of it and gazed. The newly made statue very beautiful and was drenched in the rain. He thought to himself that he should not let it be ruined by the downpour. He looked around and found a piece of rag cloth. He immediately picked it up and covered the top of the statue with that piece of rag. He looked at the statue and smiled at the fact that he was able to save the beautiful statue from the pouring rain. He then left with a smile. Few minutes later another man arrived at the same spot and stopped at the same statue when he saw the same beautiful statue being covered by a dirty looking piece of cloth. He immediately took off the piece of rag from the top of the statue thinking that why anyone could have wanted to ruin the beautiful statue by covering it with the filthy looking piece of rag. After throwing the piece of rag off the statue he smiled at the fact that he save the statue from getting filthy and left he scene. How did the two individuals perceived the reality ? What was the motivation behind the action of these two individuals ? |
| GurL_Interrupted | Posted
on 09-Jun-04 04:15 PM
Thanx for the answers guys!...I know 'bout those stuffs but my point is where is this world heading ultimately u know? I mean eventually...what is happening of this world? So, our purpose in this world is to be happy and make others happy? But for what? and why? coz we don't know the ultimate happening? Still searching! |
| GurL_Interrupted | Posted
on 09-Jun-04 04:21 PM
Hm...interestign neta_Ji! U make sense! So, I shouldn't be pondering too much? Hm...! |
| tabsher | Posted
on 09-Jun-04 05:47 PM
for me the purpose of life is to work towards the goal of eventually freeing myself from the cycle of becoming, or the cycle of death and rebirth. and its because i believe in the buddhist concept of suffering. in the words of the Tibetan maha yogi Milarepa, "All worldly pursuits have the unavoidable and inevitable end, which is sorrow." if u believe this to be true, then it becomes easier to live a free and fuller life since u will not be clinging to things as much or despising things. u'll be more open to everything that comes along. this is important because things (good or bad) will continue to happen around u, either caused by you or by others. and when u're calm inside, u'll be able to see things as they are (as opposed to how u perceive it to be) and u'll not lose sight of your ultimate goal (which is so easy to do). i am pretty sure u know all this but sometimes when u hear a thing, which u have known all along, from a different person it can make a difference. good luck. in search of my own, tabsher |
| Ashley | Posted
on 09-Jun-04 06:11 PM
Phew! G_I ur not alone!ýone of those days when the crucial forethought quest ruling over me also !!! so trying to vent ma two cents :)ý.. all we can do is look thru ill-gotten vermin that pass upon us each day. Purpose of life? Isnýt it a quite hit and miss n subjective apprehension? ýI read somewhere dat "All Saints are sh*te and Leo boy can't act for toffee. You need abuse.ý ..really hah! The idiom 'Life' is itself too broad-spectrumý.. Everyone has their own acuity of life and what its intent is.!!!..Jack thinks its for him to live da way he isý..Mary thinks got to be changing yourselfý.!!! Nahmean?ýour purpose in life is our passion... we live for the people we be keen on and care about n need to b with and would miss over and above!!!. its unfussy... they is no purposeý At the end of the day we all are living to dieý. Aint we?ýWell said someone ..ý ur life purpose is like a magnetic field that draws us toward a particular experience that we need at that time to develop a characteristic or change a point of viewý Ashley! |
| Zombie | Posted
on 09-Jun-04 07:04 PM
.Gurl_Interrupted, yes, purpose of life is to be happy and make others happy :) Ashley, I don't know why I'm oh- so in love with your vivid thoughts and enchanting way of writing.:) You go girls. |
| meera | Posted
on 09-Jun-04 08:26 PM
Sis far from the true purpose, I don't even know the purpose of life. So can't answer your question :( Sowwie! |
| DWI | Posted
on 09-Jun-04 08:50 PM
Netaa_ji dwells on the idea of reality and we recently had a good discussion about reality/perception right here in Sajha. I agree with you Netaa_ji But to directly answer Gurl's question, I don't think it is necessary to have the purpose of our entire existence. Darwin formulated the purpose to the continuation of Species, but that is a purpose in smaller sense. If you keep asking the question why (as in why continue the species? ans: To establish the existence, why establish the existence and so on), then the final answer always hangs in infinityi or a black hole. I really don't think we are here for any purpose. We are just a manifestation of on going physical and chemical reaction that produced a 'being' which started thinking about its kind and evoluting on it. |
| confused | Posted
on 09-Jun-04 09:01 PM
there is no answer for our existence, our existence is as DWI said just serving "chemical and physical" purpose of this world....we have no purpose, every human as general has same experience about life, its just the matter of saying when....if you think G_I, nothing in this world makes sense, nothing is suurred....We were born once, just to DIe one day, why? Dieing is more easy than living, but we are scared to die..whY? we dont know answer to many questions, and we will never have it...but we still try to exists and live our life happily.... |
| kalabati | Posted
on 10-Jun-04 04:29 AM
I HAVE ONLY ONE THINKING FOR LIFE KHOJCHAN SABAI SUKH BHANE TYO SUKH KANHA CHA AAFU MITAI ARU LAAI DINU JANHA CHA NILA CHISA OTH LAAIE TATO OTH DIUN KI HURI BATAS ASINA LAAI MA TA OOT DIUNKI ? FIX YOUR AIM AND DO ,WHAT YOU DO THAT'S TRUTH |
| GurL_Interrupted | Posted
on 10-Jun-04 04:51 PM
Thanx 4 the answers guys!...I think, I know a part of the answer now...it's comforting :)!...that's what I'm thinking...hm...! Hey observer, I visited ur link again...what an irony isn't it?! Take care & have a grreat summer aLL! Bye! ,GurLu! |