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| San |
Posted
on 17-Jun-04 11:03 AM
Did anyone read the article by Thomas Finn 'As handover looms, we're the terrorists'? I'm trying to get electronic copy to paste here but looks like thier site is down.
Thomas Finn's article on "as handover looms.." portrays a sad gang-fight type of world policy that George Bush has. Not only that, it also shows how the war on terror is just another way of saying to the world that the lives of Americans are worth more than the lives of other innocent people in other parts of the world that George Bush can justify the killing of 14,000 innocent civilians in other parts of the world.
An estimated 14,000 civilians killed in the bloody 'war on terror' in order to avenge the 3000 killed on 9/11 does not hold much ground for any supposed 'war on terror' cloaked under the pretense of pre-emptive strike on the weapons of mass destruction.
Yes 9/11 is deplorable and whoever caused it are evil. But what about the nearly 5 times the 9/11's initiated by the government of George Bush?
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| Nattu |
Posted
on 17-Jun-04 11:21 AM
Here is the link to the article. It is on page 6.
http://copex.metro.st/ftp/20040617_1000005.pdf
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| shirish |
Posted
on 17-Jun-04 11:21 AM
Yeah San you are right.
The recent report of "no-connection between the Al-Quida and Saddam Hussein" should be another slap on Bush's face for the initiation of war and his justifications of attacking Iraq.
Ke garne? Power cha...
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| San |
Posted
on 17-Jun-04 11:38 AM
Here's the article:
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| Deep |
Posted
on 17-Jun-04 12:05 PM
kalle bhanya kanekson thiyena bhanera al kaida ra saddam bro ko? aru le bhanera hunchha? hamro bush sir le kannekson thiyo bhane si thiyo thiyo.
aba next time chunab bush sir le jitne ho bhane "siriya" ra "aairan" lai ni dekhai dinchhan kannekson.
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| dazzling ko keti |
Posted
on 17-Jun-04 12:56 PM
Keeping the argument aside that: Five times more national outlet journalists identify themselves as liberal......that is a powerful article. One with which I totally identify.
Operation Iraqi Freedom has indeed uncovered the new face of war. It has to a certain extent deconstructed the traditional idea behind Nuclear Supremacy. It is undeniable that Iraq is NOT Afghanisthan. Afghanisthan was already a skeleton, lying in the shambles left by the innumerable feudal disputes. Iraq on the other hand is like an uncut diamond. It attracts the attention of many nations with vested interests in its oil reserves. The Islamic world will never allow its revenues to be funneled away by another nation.....much less, America.
The current administration has indeed made some serious miscalculations and undermined the resistance they would face in trying to give Iraq a makeover. Which reminds me of a saying that I once heard on television: Me and my brother we will fight our neighbor. But me and my neighbor, we will fight the enemy. So,no matter how much America harps on being the champion of a free world.....at the end of the day, they are to most Iraqis---Occupiers, and it is with that sentiment they will fight to salvage what they think belongs to them.
This is just another Vietnam in the making and a stepping stone to George W's political pitfall......or so we hope!!!
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| shirish |
Posted
on 17-Jun-04 02:26 PM
Hey Deep ji
Tapain ko Bush "sir" le nikaleko arko "report" padhnu/sunnu bha cha?
They literally claimed the number of terrorist attacks decreasing and later came out with the statements that there were problems with the data analysis, when (others) pointed out.
wrong calculations everywhere. No wonder math is fuzzy for your Bush Sir.
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| tauke |
Posted
on 17-Jun-04 02:42 PM
Americans are bunch of stupidos to vote Sir Bush, is that what you people saying?
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| shirish |
Posted
on 17-Jun-04 02:49 PM
Not Exactly Tauke!
Majority of the Americans were not for Bush anyway, then.
Now, even fewer Americans support Bush Sir. ( knighted by Deep)
But the executive decisions made by the current administration seem so !!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Nattu |
Posted
on 17-Jun-04 06:59 PM
By far the wrong report on decreasing terrorist attack is the most embarrassing thing that could ever happen to this administration.The Bush administration simply blamed the CIA for the wrong calculation. Can you imagine the CIA, the world's most prominent intelligence agency that uses billions of taxpayer dollars every single year making this kind of stupid mistake and they get away easily without any accountibility ? I don't know but DAAL ME KUCH KAALAA LAGTA HAI or maybe SAALAA DAAL (Bush) HI KAALAA HAI .
P.S : CIA owes bigtime to Jennifer Garner ( ALIAS ). Don't you think ?? :-)
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| Deep |
Posted
on 18-Jun-04 06:17 AM
sirish,
Aba hisab alikati kalle ho golmal garde chha tara hamro bush sir ta daaami jiiiinius ho ni, ho. Ammmmaaaammmammma! hamro bush sir lage pachhi ta lagyo lagyo. por pararai duniyalai sodhya haina, "timaru hampatti ki aatankakari patti" bhanera? jo sanaga bush sir lai kamfartebal lagdaina tyai ho aatankari. Bhani haleni---Syria, and Iran meri bassai hamro bush sir le chunab jite si WTF ma.
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| shirish |
Posted
on 18-Jun-04 09:39 AM
Ho ta ni hagi Deep sir. Mero buddhi pani!
Nabha_ko kura pani saya choti ta ke hazar choti bhane pachi sahi bhai halcha ni.
Screw the 9/11 comission's report. What Deepji's Bush Sir and his team says is says is correct.
Screw those 19 secret prison/detainee centers reported by NY Times.
Screw the wrong calculations.
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| JagaltayBhoot |
Posted
on 18-Jun-04 10:04 AM
Russian President Vladimir Putin says that after the 9/11 attacks Moscow warned Washington that Saddam Hussein was planning attacks on the US
For details, pls see:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3819057.stm
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| shirish |
Posted
on 18-Jun-04 12:31 PM
Who knows the intelligence provided to Kremlin is the same Ahmed Chalabi? Putin Sir pani!
Who knows Russian intelligence is better than George Tenet's CIA?
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| Deep |
Posted
on 18-Jun-04 02:20 PM
inteligence sinteligence ko maro goli--ani putin sir gaya tel lene---hamro bush sir lai sabai tha chha ke kasaile bhani ranu pardaina---antaryami po ho ta.
putin sir aba ti ghar pachhadi chechniya ko jhyang ma basya lai thegan launa sakya haina, feri arulai ke "khufia" khabar diyai bho ra?
baru aaja sukrabar beluki---golveda ra tilko achar sanga momo khana bola chha euti taruni le --- tyam mai gayera bhumika badh.dhai garnu paryo.
Shambho!
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| babaal |
Posted
on 18-Jun-04 03:19 PM
Here's an interesting read:
Saddam, al-Qaeda, and the truth
June 19, 2004
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The surprise would have been to find that Saddam Hussein was indeed in cahoots with Osama bin Laden. The United States President, George Bush, is accustomed to speaking of Saddam and the war on terrorism in the same breath. He and his Vice-President, Richard Cheney, frequently suggest a link between Saddam and al-Qaeda. It is why a great many Americans, including US soldiers, think Iraq is where those responsible for the September 11, 2001, attacks on the US drew support. The connection between al-Qaeda and Saddam, however, has never been more than an assertion, even less believable than the other claimed basis for invading Iraq - Saddam's elusive weapons of mass destruction.
The US National Commission on Terrorist Attacks upon the US has shed new light on the September 11 attacks. It has also put paid to the idea of a connection between Saddam and al-Qaeda, in an assessment that is careful, thorough and credible.
The US inquiry says bin Laden explored possible co-operation with Iraq during his time in Sudan between 1991 and 1996, despite his opposition to Saddam's secular regime. When a senior Iraqi intelligence officer finally met him in Sudan in 1994, bin Laden is said to have requested space in Iraq to establish training camps and assistance in procuring weapons. Iraq was apparently unresponsive. Despite reports of later contact between Iraq and al-Qaeda after bin Laden returned to Afghanistan, the inquiry says "they do not appear to have resulted in a collaborative relationship". More specifically, its report concludes: "We have no credible evidence that Iraq and al-Qaeda co-operated on attacks against the United States." It also finds no convincing evidence that any government financially supported al-Qaeda before the September 11 attacks, other than limited support provided by the Taliban after bin Laden first arrived in Afghanistan.
This sober assessment is highly damaging to Mr Bush. It makes the Iraq war look even more like a personal adventure, which he persuaded the public to support by arguments which seemed doubtful at the time and now are shown to have been either untrue or self-deceiving.
In Australia the Prime Minister, John Howard, has not been as reckless as some American assertions of a connection between Saddam and al-Qaeda. Even so, the immediate response of the Foreign Minister, Alexander Downer, to the US inquiry's findings is disingenuous and evasive. He says the Government "did not say that Saddam Hussein had organised or co-ordinated the attacks on New York".
This does not answer the main concern here. That is, that a connection between Saddam and al-Qaeda has been advanced as a justification for the war in Iraq when no such connection existed. That, in turn, raises another concern. Not only did the decision to invade proceed on mistaken assumptions, it deflected attention from the real enemy, terrorism, which has been strengthened by conflict in Iraq. More plainly than ever before, war was made for regime change. That being so, it is even more important that the regime change be made to work. Iraq must be left strong, stable and at peace.
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