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GBNC President Position

   The prerequisite for President reads: P 06-Sep-01 New Comer
     This needs to be amended. Yes, there are 07-Sep-01 New Corner 2
       I disagree with the both of you's. If s 07-Sep-01 Mahesh
         Mahesh, point taken, but what about the 07-Sep-01 Educated Fowl
           I certainly do not want any stranger fro 07-Sep-01 Mahesh
             New Comer, I think, is kind of risky 07-Sep-01 Bostoni_Babu
               How about having the candidates present 07-Sep-01 MAHESH
                 Good point by Maheshji. The president sh 07-Sep-01 Gandhi
                   The struggle for power..??? Why do I fee 07-Sep-01 Onlooker
                     >I certainly do not want any stranger fr 08-Sep-01 fowl
                       It would not be fair on the current exe 10-Sep-01 Mahesh
                         The person who is, by now, the most qual 11-Sep-01 oohi_ashu
                           Stupid rules about who-has-lived-in-Bost 11-Sep-01 Mahesh


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New Comer Posted on 06-Sep-01 07:52 PM

The prerequisite for President reads:
President (Anybody who wants to run for the post of the president must have been and exec member for at least a year.)

I don't understand why that is the rule. Someone can be qualified by being actively involved in many many different kinds of organizations. Why cannot someone who is experienced in other organizations run for the post of the president here in GBNC?
New Corner 2 Posted on 07-Sep-01 10:32 AM

This needs to be amended. Yes, there are many people actively involved in GBNC. Everyone who is active and has the leadership skill should be eligible. Being an exec member does not mean that that person is active or has leadership skill.
Mahesh Posted on 07-Sep-01 12:49 PM

I disagree with the both of you's.
If someone just got here(US) yesterday and wants to run for the president...has no clue but had held similar position in Nepal--- it will not work.
The President will have to be someone who knows its members, understands the situations, and knows where to go to solve the problems. We do not want another NINCOMPOOP organizing and directing our community. I think they put that clause understanding the situations that arised in the past. So lets not get ahead of ourselves here.
Educated Fowl Posted on 07-Sep-01 01:03 PM

Mahesh, point taken, but what about the hundreds of other Boston residents who have lived in boston for ages but never been a council member? We have to make sure we are not counting these people out of the presidential pool.
Mahesh Posted on 07-Sep-01 01:45 PM

I certainly do not want any stranger from the community calling the shots. The Leader should be someone everyone recognizes, should be a Boston Native, and someone who can manuever the community without any problem. I think current members have paid their dues by becoming exe. members, I don't think it would be fair on them. Besides its a good way to measure one's capability. By working with the comittee people will be able to figure out if the person just talks the talk or walks the walk as well. Its like sort of paying your dues before ascending the throne proving that you are worthy of it.
Bostoni_Babu Posted on 07-Sep-01 01:57 PM

New Comer,

I think, is kind of risky to elect a person as the president who doesn't even know much about GBNC, don't you think ? Knowing that, regardless of all the hard work of recent GBNC Presidents, people have left no rooms for criticism. What if, we
elect a person who has absolutely no idea how things in GBNC and if that person
runs GBNC like some kind of clown show. Who is going to take responsibility for that? So, it is always best to elect the President from executive members because
that person is most likely to have better experience than a newcomer and most likely to run the GBNC well. Probably that is why, when you interview for a new job, employers usually ask " Do you have any experience? " compared to your qualifications. Does it make sense ?
MAHESH Posted on 07-Sep-01 02:41 PM

How about having the candidates present a statement here in this site. So people will have a good idea of who they are. I just saw the election mentioned but saw no cadidates on the events section.
I think its time we introduces some perks of being an exec. member as well. So that in the future we do not have to hear statements lik"Its voluntary, I am not getting paid." We as the community should hold these people accountable for they are representing both you and me.
iF WE DON'T DO THIS.. we are going to stuck at right where we are. So the question is do we want to improve ourselves or stay the same and play the blame game.
Gandhi Posted on 07-Sep-01 03:50 PM

Good point by Maheshji. The president should be one who has enough experience of the community where one is going to work as a president. Spending at least one full term in the executive position will certainly give enough insights to the would be president.

After a careful reading of the bylaws of GBNC, it is clear that the clause can be released under certain circumstances. But why would we need to do that? Keep that clause - perfect. So far as any one is elected to the executive committee in a year, the person, if still living in the GB area has the opportunity to lead the community as GBNC president the following year. Why should anyone be hurried to grab the Presidency to be named a sluggish and ill named later? It is simple, show your potential and be an executive member this year, work hard for the community for one yea. The community, if it is sensible in recognizing your contribution as an executive member, will offer you to be the president next year. You have the right not to participate in any such events in future if you are not satisfied. Hoina ra?

I have had a rather worse experience in one of the community groups in Nepal. The president should be one who has spent at least one four year term as an executive member. To be in the executive member, you need to spend at least one year as an active member. In order to get active membership you need to participate in different activities run by the community for at least one year. On top of that only the president is selected by the members. The president nominates all other executive members on his own. So any new member has to wait at least six years to become the president, how hard he/she contributed to the group. (Still not guaranteed that he/she would be picked up in the executive council by the president). After 12 years of establishment, there were only five members (out of around 100 members) eligible to be the president. "TO HELP SUSTAIN DEMOCRACY" was one of the objective of that group. I wish GBNC would not be like that.

Gandhi
Onlooker Posted on 07-Sep-01 05:42 PM

The struggle for power..??? Why do I feel at home here ..
fowl Posted on 08-Sep-01 12:42 PM

>I certainly do not want any stranger from
>the community calling the shots. The Leader
>should be someone everyone recognizes,
>should be a Boston Native, and someone who
>can manuever the community without any
>problem

I agree on this, but it doesn't mean one HAS to have been a council member.
Mahesh Posted on 10-Sep-01 09:26 AM

It would not be fair on the current exe members to let newcomers run for positions. They have paid their dues. So take it as a requirement(qualification). Besides you have to have a good relations with the committee in order to run the community. So that 1yr gives you the time to get to know your fellow committee members.
We are just laying out the ground rules to make our community better, not strugling for power here. If we want to change and make our community better we have to take the initiatives to do it instead of saying" Bhai halcha ni" Or we can go back to our old ways of blaming the committee and the committee blaming the community.
oohi_ashu Posted on 11-Sep-01 10:39 AM

The person who is, by now, the most qualified to be the next GBNC president but who is so very self-effacing that he will politely reject my suggestion is no other than Raju Pradhan.

Provided he wants the job, Raju will no doubt be the finest GBNC president in history. As it was for Colin Powell in another context, the hardest part is, of course, convincing Raju to take the lead.

As you can see, I have nothing but the highest of regards for Raju.

Stupid rules about who-has-lived-in-Boston-for-how-long aside, the basic criteria for the presidency should be: contagious enthusiasm for the job and a relentless drive to make things better by allowing dissent and giving responsibilities to younger people.

Please feel free to disagree.

BTW, let us keep this kurakani section accessible to people from all over the world. And I have been doing my bit to be a flag-waving patriot to publicize this site to any Nepali or friends of Nepal I come in contact with.

oohi
ashu
paris, france
Mahesh Posted on 11-Sep-01 11:52 AM

Stupid rules about who-has-lived-in-Boston-for-how-long aside, the basic criteria for the presidency should be: contagious enthusiasm for the job and a relentless drive to make things better by allowing dissent and giving responsibilities to younger people

Ashu!
I disagree with you. What if the person did not even know what venues are available to hold functions. Or did not know what he has to do to hold functions. Then we have another NAAM MAtra KO President. Now do we need this ? If we need to teach everything while in position then might as well have someone else there.
But I do agree with you on your selection of Raju Pradhan. HE is one of the vetrans here. And knows all the know hows of BOston.