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| Nepali |
Posted
on 12-Sep-01 02:21 PM
Why hasn't the GBNC organization/community/president/exec. members expressed their official condemnation of the tragedy and conveyed condolence to the American people?? I think as a Nepali community living in this country we should voice our support to the American people and condemn such dastardly acts!!
Even though I'm sure everybody in our community feels the shock and deeply regrets the tragedy, we should have official announcements/positions in times like these to voice the collective thoughts of the Nepali community.
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| gimme a break |
Posted
on 12-Sep-01 02:39 PM
Oh come on. Now you are blaming GBNC for not condemning. Do you happen to be the enemy number 1 of the Council?
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| sparsha |
Posted
on 12-Sep-01 02:51 PM
Following is an email I got at my work. I am posting this material here so others can read and comment, if they wish.
*****
In light of what is going on, I think this is news everyone should hear.
This, from a Canadian newspaper, no less, is worth sharing.
> >
> > America: The Good Neighbor.
> >
> > Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to
> > a remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a
> > Canadian television commentator. What follows is the full text of his
> > trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record:
> >
> > "This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans
> > as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all
> > the earth.
> >
> > Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were
> > lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions
> > of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries
> > is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United
> > States.
> >
> > When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the
> > Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and
> > swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it.
> >
> > When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States
> > that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were
> > flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped.
> >
> > The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of
> > dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries
> > are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans.
> >
> > I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating
> > over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane.
> > Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing
> > Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't
> > they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly
> > American Planes?
> >
> > Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or
> > woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get
> > radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You
> > talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon - not
> > once, but several times and safely home again.
> >
> > You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in
> > the store window for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are
> > not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of
> > them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American
> > dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.
> >
> > When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking
> > down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the
> > Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned
> > them an old caboose. Both are still broke.
> >
> > I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help
> > of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone
> > else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside
> > help even during the San Francisco earthquake.
> >
> > Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is
> > damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of
> > this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to
> > thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present
> > troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those."
> >
> > Stand proud, America!
> >
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
> > This is one of the best editorials that I have ever read
> > regarding the United States. It is nice that one man realizes it. I only
> > wish that the rest of the world would realize it. We are always blamed
> > for everything, and never even get a thank you for the things we do.
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| Another Nepali |
Posted
on 12-Sep-01 03:06 PM
GBNC's position on the tragedy is of mass disbelief and slow realization just as everyone else. Right now GBNC's position is that of an observer just like everybody else.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 12-Sep-01 03:12 PM
By the way, do you know which country provided the most donations to the
children and other starved of Afganisthan(Via UN) in the last winter?
Answer: United States of America, approx:US$150 million. Source UN.
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| KoKo |
Posted
on 12-Sep-01 04:43 PM
Gbnc is not a politcal party or a govt. organization, you moron(Nepali). And we do not have a collective one voice. Its obviuos from the posting here. All we are good for is bitch and complain.
If anyone should be condemning this terrorist act would be the Govt of Nepal through Naplese Embassy on behalf of all nepali.
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| sparsha |
Posted
on 12-Sep-01 05:09 PM
>Gbnc is not a politcal party or a govt.
>organization, you moron(Nepali).
Even though I am not that "Moron" Nepali at whom KoKo directed his/her answer but I guess if GBNC wants GBNC can/could condemn terrorism and express sorrow over the loss of lives and peace in the US.
>And we do
>not have a collective one voice. Its obviuos
>from the posting here. All we are good for
>is bitch and complain.
May be, but still that should not be an excuse for not posting it's views on the act of terrorists. I am not saying GBNC should or must have expressed sorrow but it could.
>If anyone should be condemning this
>terrorist act would be the Govt of Nepal
>through Naplese Embassy on behalf of all
>nepali.
I beleive, Government of Nepal already condemned the attact on US.
Personally, I am sad . Terrorism is not a solution of anything.
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| Bhatatata |
Posted
on 13-Sep-01 12:32 AM
The GBNC suffers from its own internal terrorism, terrorized by its own
members. They retaliate each other, more than terrorism, that people
call it a war. GBNC deserves to be part of terrorism, but, does not
want to condemn terrorism, and I believe some of those occupying
exec positions seems to be themselves terrorists or involved in
this 'GBNC' terrorism. Have you ever heard any terrorists denouncing
another terrorists. Its a natural process to avoid such condemnation.
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| KoKo |
Posted
on 13-Sep-01 09:44 AM
If the president does not feel like it so be it. All of this do this do that, no wonder nobody want to be the president We have so many Mr Know it all's here visiting this site it makes me sick. This is no time to be bickering, its a sad moment. I apologise for my outburst earlier. Why can't we just be just silent and mourn in peace. We are all adults here, no need to tell others what to do. If you want you can release your own statement, the message board is all yours. You can pour your heart out.
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| West Coast |
Posted
on 13-Sep-01 11:06 AM
GBNC position????
Official condemnation???
Give me a break.
Small minds, big egos. Yes, the whole country is waiting for GBNC to make its position clear. The mourning will not be complete until GBNC has spoken and made an official statement. Perhaps GBNC should make a public statement on CNN?
As someone above said...this is a time of mourning and mass disbelief...and let's just be silent and mourn. I am sure every Nepali in this country feels the pain and will do his/her part to voice support to Americans in their community - whether GBNC has a position or not. Whether GBNC exists or not.
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| east coast |
Posted
on 13-Sep-01 11:42 AM
west coast, what's your problem? did someone told you America is waiting for comments from GBNC? what the hell do you mean by small minds big ego? is that what you got? dude, don't come here to show your stinky attiude.
what's wrong if GBNC says it shares pain with americans in these painful days.
>>As someone above said...this is a time of mourning and mass disbelief...and let's just be silent and mourn.
if you beleive in this then why the hell did you bother to come to this site to cry.
It's upto the GBNC whether it says something or not. BTW, Are you a GBNC council member?
Remeber what you support, "As someone above said...this is a time of mourning and mass disbelief...and let's just be silent and mourn."
EastCoast feels the pain.
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| OBSERVER |
Posted
on 13-Sep-01 12:32 PM
PEOPLE CAN WE BE CIVILIZED ? THIS IS NO TIME FOR ARGUMENT. CAN WE JUST OBSERVE AND MOURN IN PEACE ? WHAT IS WRONG WITH NEPALI PEOPLE, A LOT OF PEOPLE LOST THEIR LIVES HERE, AND YOU PEOPLE STILL ARE ARGUEING WITH EACH OTHER. DO YOU PEOPLE EVEN CARE ? AS MENTIONED ABOVE, IF YOU AS AN INDIVIDUAL(if you've got the balls) WANT TO SAY ANYTHING GO AHEAD...... OTHERWISE KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT. VERY TYPICAL OF YOU PEOPLE.
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| midwest |
Posted
on 13-Sep-01 12:45 PM
Here is another one again. Yo observer man! have you heard about "tube light" expression.
Why you come here to talk when you want silence. Don't come here to preach or complain, mourn and let others mourn in peace. Got it? may be not, you tube light!
MAN!
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| Keta |
Posted
on 13-Sep-01 02:30 PM
And what are you doing AAaahem !! Man! I mean Midwest ?
SSShhhhhhh....
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| keti |
Posted
on 13-Sep-01 04:48 PM
Keta,
what Aaheeem? halla nagar bhanya haina? jati bhane pani.....aba pheri arko aaune hola, halla garna.
east coast, west coast, midwest, southwest, northwest and other variations shut up.
kam sam chhaina...timepass jhar pat haru.
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| ashu |
Posted
on 14-Sep-01 05:27 AM
Hi all,
The United States has been very generous to many Nepalis at least since 1951 (through private and government scholarships and so on and on . . .)
The US has also become an adopted permanent or temporary homeland for many ambitious, hardworking, and well-trained Nepalis who have have been leading successful lives and careers there.
Now a tragedy of unimaginable enormity has struck the USA.
Sure, on a personal level, each of us have reached out to and will reach out to many of our American friends in New York, DC and elsewhere.
That is a given.
But a community like GBNC too can easily arrange a public meeting (regardless
of whether two people come or two hundreds come) to offer, at the very least,
a one-minute silent prayer, paying tributes to those who did the needless
dying.
Sure, GBNC does NOT have to do any of that, and life can go on.
But GBNC's rising to the seriousness of the occasion through a quiet but
respectful tribute will make us all -- Nepalis and many Amerivan friends of
Nepal in the Greater Boston area -- realize all the more that we are all members
of the same human race and we honor human lives and we mourn senseless
loss of lives. This particular tragedy, after all, is an unprecedented event.
On another note, my friend historian Pratyoush Onta has written someplace that he wonders why, despite all our national talks about Gorkha bravery, we don't have a simple muesum dedicated to honor the dead soldiers. Well, I am not an expert, but one answer could be that: We Nepalis either do not know or refuse
to learn how to rise to serious, sombre occasions. (You all know what an embarassing farce our Speaker of the House created with his gun-toting antics and Khaini-colored smiles when presenting the dark findings of the Durbar
Killings report last June.)
It is time we learnt to be a part of larger communities, and one way to learn that
lesson could be to learn to stand -- SYMBOLICALLY --shoulders to shoulders
with the rest of sorrowful American friends.
oohi
ashu
ktm, nepal
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| President |
Posted
on 14-Sep-01 10:09 AM
I cannot belive this, so quick to critisize every move of GBNC, why don't anyone that quick enough to help GBNC?. What is this? Some of you have personel problem with GBNC?, if so let me know what is the problem and I will try my best to solve it.
I am totally astonish by the sarcasm against GBNC that get posted in this web. When is the last time any of you have volunteer or done anything for GBNC?
My e mai adress is President@ GBNC.Org, let me know if there is anything I can do to clarify any misunderstanding you have with GBNC.
Sincerely
Sachit.
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| Prativa |
Posted
on 14-Sep-01 01:28 PM
>I cannot belive this, so quick to critisize
>every move of GBNC, why don't anyone that
>quick enough to help GBNC?. What is this?
>Some of you have personel problem with GBNC?,
> if so let me know what is the problem and I
>will try my best to solve it.
>I am totally astonish by the sarcasm against
>GBNC that get posted in this web. When is
>the last time any of you have volunteer or
>done anything for GBNC?
>My e mai adress is President@ GBNC.Org, let
>me know if there is anything I can do to
>clarify any misunderstanding you have with
>GBNC.
>
>Sincerely
>Sachit.
Mr. President,
Seems like you are not happy being a president. Soon your term is going to be over but until then, why dont you do somthing that makes other people proud of you. people are not criticising every move of GBNC. GBNC does good stuff at times. But we are just wondering why don't you start collecting sme money for the people struck by the disaster. When i say "you", I mean you and your executive members of GBNC. If you think they are criticising, then you are not taking it positively. Why show anger? Being a president is a tough job but you have to use your smartness in dealing with people and their ideas.
I agree with Ashu, that nepalis do not know how to act in times of seriousness. They don't know how to act in times of happiness nor crisis. May be we have seen the american ways of dealing with things and that makes us feel that the nepali ways are not good. Nepali people also cannot take criticisms and do not know how to give positive feed backs.
We have lived in America, we've taken from this place and we've givin to this place but lets help them out when they need help.
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| Sanjana |
Posted
on 14-Sep-01 03:39 PM
I agree with you Prativa.
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| Koko |
Posted
on 14-Sep-01 04:10 PM
TOO MANY COOKS SPOIL THE BROTH.
Thats exactly what's going on in GBNC.
The chatterboxes here keep chating away even though they don't live here.
WHen it comes to helping GBNC to make it better, nobody in sight.
But when it comes to slandering GBNC we have people lined up from here to enternity. Its like KO BHANDA KO KOM.
As I said earlier if you want go ahead post your own condolence, but don't go policing around telling people what to do.
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| Cook |
Posted
on 14-Sep-01 04:18 PM
Koko, just found something interesting in your posting. You said
> As I said earlier if you want go ahead post your own condolence, but don't go policing around telling people what to do.
Aren't you policing around telling people to 'go ahead and post their own condolences'?? while you you're advising them to not go policing around telling people what to do?
:)
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| GBNC president sux |
Posted
on 14-Sep-01 04:44 PM
This GBNC president does not sound good to my ears. How did he get to be the president in the first place??
>I cannot belive this, so quick to critisize
>every move of GBNC, why don't anyone that
>quick enough to help GBNC?. What is this?
>Some of you have personel problem with GBNC?,
> if so let me know what is the problem and I
>will try my best to solve it.
>I am totally astonish by the sarcasm against
>GBNC that get posted in this web. When is
>the last time any of you have volunteer or
>done anything for GBNC?
>My e mai adress is President@ GBNC.Org, let
>me know if there is anything I can do to
>clarify any misunderstanding you have with
>GBNC.
>
>Sincerely
>Sachit.
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| bhale |
Posted
on 14-Sep-01 04:47 PM
"aage Quas aajes" do what u r doing........ don't bla bla bla
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| Koko |
Posted
on 14-Sep-01 04:49 PM
You are being given a choice, you are not being told what to do. Its up to you, and thats what free societies do. If you don't want to jump into the fire then don't push the next person. Thats all I am saying.
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| GBNC Supporter |
Posted
on 14-Sep-01 04:56 PM
To whoever posted as GBNC president sux.
It seems like you don't have the guts to post under your own name. You are like a terrorist. You don't even want to admit who you are when you post your caustic remarks. If you don't post criticisms under your own name, then you're no better than a no-name barking dog that keeps barking till eternity.
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| Sachit |
Posted
on 14-Sep-01 05:03 PM
Prativa,
Take my word for it, never been happy as I am now having a chance to serve GBNC comunity. It is absolutly easy to throw 10 cents, but when it boils down to investing that 10 cents and making millions out of it, it takes lots of everything.
This is all I have to say, I am not angry or what so ever to see all this critisisms, what boggles my mind is people just don't see what they are critsizing about. Now take a look at yourself, you went on telling what GBNC need to do and how I seem to be feeling about my own volunterism. Now you really think that you are the first one come up with that idea? "Feasiabilty of implementation " is main issue here. This exec. council has started Emergency fund begining of this year. Our GBNC Emergency Releif Fund has less than $300.00 and drive has been in place since January of 2001. By the way if you are interested in contributing please contact our Tresurer at Tresurer@gbnc.org
We GBNC council is always in search for people like you in executive member. There is an election this October , Will you be interested to volunteer?
-Sachit.
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| Prativa |
Posted
on 14-Sep-01 05:27 PM
This
>exec. council has started Emergency fund
>begining of this year. Our GBNC Emergency
>Releif Fund has less than $300.00 and drive
>has been in place since January of 2001. By
>the way if you are interested in
>contributing please contact our Tresurer at
>Tresurer@gbnc.org
>
>We GBNC council is always in search for
>people like you in executive member. There
>is an election this October , Will you be
>interested to volunteer?
>
>-Sachit.
Sachit,
The reason people are writing to you and saying you havent done this and that is because you and your board do not let us know what you guys have been doing. Even though it's small, i believe, you should let it out to the public so that I and others know what you are upto and how we can help you out.
I know about the October election and I would be very excited to be a part of GBNC board, but, I don't live quite close to Boston, it becomes hard for me to play an active role. However, I will be following all the things you all will be doing (if you post that up in this site) and being virtually involved.
I am impressed by your reply.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 14-Sep-01 05:31 PM
This is to Sachit and others:
Though complacency is not good thing, it is safe to say that GBNC is more active
than any other NEPALESE COMMUNITY IN USA. GBNC not only hosts regular gathering, publishes newsletters , welcomes wandering Nepali creative people
from time to time, it also maintains an excellent websites which serves as outlet
whenever Nepalese people feel emotional catharsis.(remember the hits in royal
massacre time?)
I have seen student union in Beijing (an umbrella org for all Nepalese in China)
regularly publishing journal size paper for a few years, and serving students there
a lot of times before it melted down with the internecine bickerings and
accusations of prejudices, not to mention malappropriation of funds.[ I was
surprised that people even accused the editorial board of refusing more articles
from students of a particular caste! See, how nasty GBNC's situation can be!]
I think working as a president is a very tough job. When you organize meetings,
most of people just don't show up. A few people are always very enthusiastic, and
they want president to work hard everyday for the cause THEY champion.Some
fellow posters here wanted GBNC to publish view on the recent US tragedy, but
rather than writing email to president@gbnc.org(?), they just slapped
the posting here! A gentle remind/prod thus blowed out to be a public jeer. At
least,we should send email to the president before we jeer him here.
Also,we should understand that presidency is volunteering. But it is also an
opportunity for the president to hone his skill in leading community. Based on his
performance here, he can gauge how he would fare in future if such opportunities
arise. My personal role as a president, secretary general and treasurer of
different small time organizations in different level of my student life has taught
me how unable I am to cope with the accumulating complaint from members, but it
has enabled me to empathize with people like Sachit.
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| Puskar |
Posted
on 14-Sep-01 05:36 PM
There are thousands of Nepali communities across America. Each community, if they are interested, should voice their stance on the tragedy to the Royal Nepalese Embassy, or perhaps write a letter of condolence to the white house, donate blood or donate money. Creating your my own local community does not give me the privilege to act on behalf of Nepal. That's the job for the embassy.
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| TP |
Posted
on 15-Sep-01 01:11 PM
If that is the real GBNC president writing on this board...I suggest that GBNC elect someone else who has the ability to express concerns with due diligence. This presidents seems to be an angry-young-man much alike other angry people in this bulletin board.
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