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| Namita |
Posted
on 21-Sep-01 01:36 PM
I thought the matter was closed. Well what did I know? I see Ashu has managed to follow me even in the Comment section!!! It was not enough for him to attack me personally here, but he had to come there too. AGGGHHH!!!
I would like to make something very clear. When I write I write for my enjoyment. If people read and enjoy that is great. I am glad I could share something with others. If they find objectionable that is also fine. It is not possible to make everybody happy all the time. So if people comment on my posting whether showering me with compliments or not - that is not important - that is not why I write. Again, I write for my own fulfillment, enjoyment. Just like Hilary answered "because it is there" to the question why he wants to climb Mt. Everest, I write because I can, I want to. And I have this incessant urge to share with people what I have. Whether it is a home-cooked meal, my poetry or these postings.
For the last few months I find it very disturbing that so many people seem to be just waiting to slander not the ideas but the person, no matter what is written. There are many many anonymous writers who do that - which could be explained if not fully understood. BUT, what vexed me this time was Ashu's brazenness. Clearly he was attacking me for going to New York and "breathlessly" singing the tune of
"consumerism" and he says I had the nerve to say bad things about capitalism. When somebody makes this kind of argument I don’t have to say anything.
I quote:
>oops Posted on 09-19-01 12:02 PM Reply | Notify Me
Ashu's double life and inconsistency is amazing. He writes everybody about where
he went shamelessly. And here he berates namita as saying she spent time in new
york, and still criticizes Capitalism.
What kind of logic is this? You studied in school in Panchayat system. Or St Xaviers
or whatever the hell that is. That doesn't mean that you should follow Christianity,
or Panchayati. ......Go charlatan, this is your time to disrupt this site. <
He talks in great length about where I work and to whom I am married to prove his non-existent point. He appears he is nothing but a wounded animal - lashing here and there and everywhere without pausing. He fails to see this will do nothing but harm him more.
My answer lies in the postings of Himani, hijo aja, upperwestside and few others. I don't like to come back again and again to prove my point when I know my message will be twisted further and further from the truth. I remember Ashu and Biswo's debate about ‘Elitism’ and how ashu was employing everything within his reach to "win" this debate. Sadly he was defeated. But the point is when it is Ashu involved, he will thrash, slash, attack - yes personally, just to prove his point and knowing this well, I was not going to be involved in his bind bending, logic defying game.
Again what compelled me to write here was his posting on the comments section after I requested San to erase my personal information. Where is this "muddled thinking" that he likes to chant got to do with my request? What is the inconsistency here? If I want to burn myself to death tomorrow it is my choice. It is my choice to sensor myslef or NOT to censor myself. It is my choice to ask or not to ask. It is my choice to respond or not to respond. FOR THE LAST TIME ASHU, IT IS MY CHOICE TO BE OR NOT TO BE. So back off, I request you very politely.
To Agree, to disagree, be ambivalent, to complacent - it is people's choice. But don't lower yourself by attacking personally not only me but anybody! I think this is wise and more fulfilling at the end of the day.
It is the small mind that enjoys talking about people. Wise peole talk about ideas. Think about this before you go on another rampage.
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| Namita |
Posted
on 21-Sep-01 02:31 PM
a small mistake:
is is MIND BENDING, NOT BIND BENDING.
MIND BENDING , LOGIC DEFYING.
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| get_ready |
Posted
on 21-Sep-01 02:39 PM
Namita
I admire your courage. But do prepare yourself for a methodical attack based on "Family research" in the name of openness and democracy.
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| namitak |
Posted
on 21-Sep-01 02:47 PM
Dear Get_Ready I am ready.
When I Decide to Fight, I Fight.
Thanks for your concern.
namita
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| Sunakhari |
Posted
on 21-Sep-01 03:57 PM
Ashu a few questions to you (answer if you like):
Do you feel threatened by intelligent Nepalese women?
Do you feel threatened by intelligent Nepalese women who are married to non-Nepalese?
Do you feel threatened by intelligent women?
Do you feel threatened by OTHER intelligent people?
I ask you these questions because in the past (not counting this very moment) I have been reading your threads and find them very interesting. I find you very resourceful when it comes to unusual postings and I give you credit for it. I must have read almost ALL your posting for quite some months now (yes, even the ones from Glasgow and Paris) BUT I have never scrutinized them. You, as a person, are the least important when I'm reading your threads or anybody else's for that matter.
I have read your threads merely as pieces of information or your thoughts but I have never cross-referenced nor have I gone through each of them with a fine tooth comb. I don't think I'm going to be graded on them!!!
Of late, I have begun to sense that you just berate or scrutinize or cross-check or whatever the hell you call with other people's postings. I understand you have an education from an Ivy League school and thats wonderful for you and our Nepalese society but you seem to have forgotten a basic lesson our parents (at least mine) taught us. SAPREY KO BAAS JATTI AGHLO BHO TEITI JHUKEY KO HUNCHA.
Unfortunately, I am beginning to feel overwhelmed by your attacks on other people and I just go onto another threads where I don't see ASHU. Sad though, because you do post wonderful stuff. Its your need to latch onto a subject and go on and on and on that did it.
Take this with a grain of salt from someone who used to enjoy your postings.
Cheers
PS if you go through some other threads, I have even defended you! Probably under another name. Which brings me to Namita's point of you having followed her piece on the Comments section. She has a right to asking San to remove her personal information, why is she get badgered there as well? If you are a well wisher of Namita and know her personally(like you have claimed), would you want millions of others who visit this site to read her personal information and harrass her in a public forum on a personal front?
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| Sathi |
Posted
on 21-Sep-01 05:20 PM
Yes, one does not have to be a psychologist to decipher that insecurity is the answer- whether he admits to it or not! He is so insecure that he will try and discourage/dishearten/dispirit all who he thinks threatens his position within himself.
While he is condemning someone else’s perspective he is strengthening his own. While he is personally attacking someone he is in fact attacking himself only he does not know that. While he is threatening someone’s family /brother/sister or whoever, he is draining his dignity and this I hope he knows.
Movie lover that he claims to be, he has to realize that life is not a movie- it is real and we can see what is real and what is a FAKE. Know yourself Ashu…know yourself….You have the potential to become someone better than what you think you are, but if you expend your vitality in futile, ineffectual slander your insecurity will take over.
And then even so I add I find your postings interesting when you are not denigrating somebody ruthlessly.
Namita we the nepalese women are here for you whether u like it or not!
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| nemesis |
Posted
on 21-Sep-01 07:08 PM
Ashu,
a famous English poet wrote this about growing up. Please enjoy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Rudyard Kipling
IF
If you can keep your head
when all about you are losing theirs
And blaming it on you.
If you can trust yourself
when all men doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too.
If you can dream and not make dreams your master.
If you can think and not make thoughts your aim.
If you can meet with triumph and disaster.
And treat those two impostors just the same.
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken
And stoop and build'em up with worn out tools.
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch and toss
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss.
If you can force your heart, and nerve, and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone
And so "hold on" when there is nothing on you
except the will which says to them "hold on!"
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue
Or walk with kings, nor lose the common touch.
If neither foe nor loving friend can hurt you.
If all men count with you ... but none too much.
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
with sixty seconds worth of distant run.
Yours is the earth, and everything that's in it.
And which is more ... You'll be a Man, my son.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Clearly, Ashun, you are not a man yet.
your Nemesis
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| Old SCNer |
Posted
on 21-Sep-01 08:17 PM
I don't mean to paint anyone but would like to bring out this fact which may be relevant here.
I remember there was a huge hullabaloo on SCN long time back when someone pointed to Ashu that, in one of his postings, he put "divorced women" on the same category as drug-addicts, tax evaders, murderers and the like. Although that was a big affront to women, maybe it was just an innocent mistake. But there was this huge charade on SCN for months when a simple "sorry, I goofed" on Ashu's part would have sufficed.
I wonder if Ashu still has the same position on divorced women. And what about divorced men, if I may ask??
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| female(nepali0 |
Posted
on 21-Sep-01 08:45 PM
Sathi, -please donot speak for the rest of nepali ladies who frequent this bullentin board. We are not following/and care less - the bickering of two individuals who have different views namely namita and asu.
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| Sathi |
Posted
on 21-Sep-01 11:04 PM
ok female nepali I retract the last statement; I agree i should not/must not speak for all nepali women:)
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| sunakhari |
Posted
on 21-Sep-01 11:11 PM
For someone who is NOT reading and not following, you are obviously responding. (Nepali Female)
We, the Nepalese women, meaning NOT YOU precisely nor the hundreds of women who do frequent this site BUT those of us who feel affected!
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| Bystander |
Posted
on 21-Sep-01 11:16 PM
HE did WHAT??????????
Oh my goodness, he put divorced women in that category? The idiotic audacity of an Ivy Leaguer. Kukur ko puchar barha barsa dhungro ma haley pani bango ko bangai!
I would term that as a simple mistake, I am deeply offended as I happen to be divorced as well and nonetheless by a Nepalese man. What would that make him?? A RAPIST? An Incompetent FOOL?
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| WOMAN |
Posted
on 21-Sep-01 11:17 PM
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned!
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| Bystander |
Posted
on 21-Sep-01 11:21 PM
Please read that as I WOULD NOT TERM THAT AS A SIMPLE MISTAKE......
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| upperwestside |
Posted
on 22-Sep-01 11:25 AM
Many geniuses are tortured souls, with a history of difficult relationships.
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| nemesis |
Posted
on 22-Sep-01 11:58 AM
who is the genius here? asu? oh my god!
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| akt |
Posted
on 22-Sep-01 09:59 PM
you guys suck. you're doing it again. ganign up on one guy. sure he is an ass, but you all are just doing what he does. going on and on. ignore the sucker. don't you get it? he thrives on attention. the best thing is to ignore him.
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| reader/writer |
Posted
on 23-Sep-01 10:05 AM
you are right. he is starving for attention. He is feeding on his own filth. Always the same story. Attack personally, then cry crocodile tears, then write something vaguely about "democracy and freedom" and when the heat is too much to bear Silence. after a few days or so coming back thanking for "open discussion." Something about "making him stronger." Does the story sound familiar? Just go back and see some of the threads.
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| ivy league grad |
Posted
on 23-Sep-01 02:30 PM
As a graduate of the same college as Ashu, I would like to point out that it does not make me happy to see either the school, or the entire ivy league being slandered when someone wants to express anger at Ashu.
Being a graduate of an ivy-league school might occasionally give some advantages (but far fewer than many people would think)... but it also involved a lot of pain and very very very hard work to get the degree. And not every ivy league graduate is either as well-versed in argumentation, or as arrogant and insulting as Ashu sometimes can be.
One thing that no ivy-league school -- no college for that matter -- teaches is how to use common sense when relating to other people. Don't blame the ivy league if Ashu lashes out!
...and Ashu, if you read this... there are many Ivy League graduates who are both impressed by the thought that goes into your first/original postings, and disgusted by how you treat other people at this site (regardless of how they treat you).
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| reader/writer |
Posted
on 23-Sep-01 04:21 PM
This is exactly the point. Asu wants the whole world to know he is a graduatue (is he realy) from an Ivy League. He was just waiting for your response validating his existence by showing he IS an ivy leaguer. His utlimate achievement in this world feels like his going to some ivy league. Isn't it asu ? Mission accomplished. Next day he will come vey quietly and post some brilliant thread from New Yorker or Salon.com, or slate or whatever. He validates his existence once more. He is the master of bringing interesting articles from various periodicals. Congratulations, you really exist. We are grateful.
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| mSunakhari |
Posted
on 24-Sep-01 11:16 AM
"I understand you have an education from an Ivy League school and thats wonderful for you and our Nepalese society but you seem to have forgotten a basic lesson our parents (at least mine) taught us. SAPREY KO BAAS JATTI AGHLO BHO TEITI JHUKEY KO HUNCHA."
Dear Ivy Leaguer (hope thats a term)
where in my above reference do you see me slandering an Ivy League school?
On the contrary, I'm very proud to see fellow nepalese (or anyone) who have it in them to attend such schools.
A friend of mine who graduated from Harvard himself told me that the getting in is more glamorous than actually attending the school. Maybe he was just more "sapreyko" than some of us here and humble.
I think you hit the nail on the right spot when you say one doesn't acquire one's common sense in relating to others (in short, SOCIAL SKILLS) in any school.
Sunakhari
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| webpolicer |
Posted
on 24-Sep-01 11:25 AM
Sunkari=namita,
Namita why are you hiding under the name sunkari, we have seen sample of your writing so do not fool the reader. you are as bad as your opponent.
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| Namita |
Posted
on 24-Sep-01 12:25 PM
Dear Webpolicer,
Before you go on another character assasination a la mr. Tiwari, verify with the web master, will you?
Before you go shooting off your mouth going by your inept gut feeling, think before what you write and accuse people.
Thank you.
Namita
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| Bhatte@email.co |
Posted
on 24-Sep-01 12:37 PM
WEB POLICE WANT TO KISS ASSHU'S ASS
SEND HIM TO MAKE A WISH FOUNDATION
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| hotmail.coSathi |
Posted
on 24-Sep-01 01:34 PM
Web policerji,
Firstly who is sunkari? I have not seen a posting by sunkari and if you are referring to sunakhari then you can return to End of innocence , started by Namita where Sunakhari has actually rebuffed Namita's view point. Now, why would someone do that to herself. Maybe the police needs a detective.
:)
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| MangalMan |
Posted
on 24-Sep-01 02:39 PM
This thread is becoming too hilarious beyond words! heheee
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| Deuba |
Posted
on 24-Sep-01 02:42 PM
hahaha har har har. that is right. ha hah ha haw haw haw.
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