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Post |
| San |
Posted
on 24-Sep-01 09:39 PM
Greetings Everyone,
Just wanted to remind everyone to please use this discussion forum with consideration to everyone else who visit this site. I urge you all to not post anything derogatory or defamatory. People from all over the world visit this site and it would be a shame if they extract their first impression of the Nepalese Community in Boston, by reading some of the recent postings that contain profanity and/or other irresponsible comments.
Let's all move on.
Regards,
San
PS: Plus, the same thing - all the time - (KO BHANDA KO KUM) - is getting boring! Let's just realize that each person is Great in their own special ways, and move on.
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| anepalikt |
Posted
on 24-Sep-01 11:28 PM
Absolutely right! Let us move on. There is more to the world than bickering small-minded people.
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| San |
Posted
on 27-Sep-01 12:59 PM
Greetings Again,
It is unfortunate that for the past couple of days there has been an increasing number of postings that dwell on personal problems with/of individuals. These kinds of postings undermine the basic mission of this site, which is to provide a cyber meeting ground, in Boston, for Nepalese from all over the world to discuss things and ideas; and, not to engage in cyber attacks nor to promote irresponsible comments against some one individual or group.
I urge people to take more responsibility for their actions/postings and STOP this seemingly 'personal propaganda'. If this continues, the only short term solution seems be publishing the IP address as someone has suggested.
I trust that the visitors are mature enough to move on and not misuse the resource provided by GBNC for selfish personal use - that of unaccountable personal attacks.
Let's all partake in this Operation Infinite Peace.
AMEN!
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| Paakhe |
Posted
on 27-Sep-01 03:15 PM
Look like you guys realizing now. This is not the first time such suggestions have been made. Me and some other people have already requested. I still say, in case posting related to personal defamation and slandering, racism etc. are found, they should be deleted.
amen..
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| Nobody |
Posted
on 27-Sep-01 03:39 PM
It's got more to do with the culture in this discussion board that control. I do not mean culture in the sense of Nepalese culture, but rather in a systemic level- the assumptions, espoused values and artifacts this site upholds. There are far more users in eBay for example but their culture is honesty and integrity. And it's functioning properly, with more than 4 million eBayers.
IP still won't work because there are ways to release proxy IP or release/renew IP etc. And IP address will only tell us (if we are going to compare each with the other) that the postings have been made by same person or different person, anonymity is still preserved, if recognition can result in any kind of retribution or control.
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| Martin Bahadur King, Jr. |
Posted
on 27-Sep-01 04:21 PM
San,
I deeply resent the "suggestion" and "urging" that you have posted here for the GBNC visitors. As the sole moderator of this website, your words put a negative spin to the basic and fundamental principle of this public forum - freedom of speech. Your words sounds like that of a big brother threatening to close the website because of personal preference rather than of public opinion. Maybe it is public opinion that you are echoing AND MAYBE YOU"RE NOT (if it is the former then it's very hard to discern it). It seems like you are undemocratically flexing your muscle to impose your will on this forum because you have the power to do so. I feel that your statements here undermines and threatens the integrity of this website as a public meeting ground (no matter how noble your goals might be). These statements of yours brings to question -" Where would San draw the line on what I am about to post?", "Would this characterized as offensive BY SAN? ","Will he block my IP Address from this site because of what I am about to write?". Maybe the answer to all of these question will be a resounding "YES" and I would not even care because thie webiste would cease to serve as what it is touted to be - a public forum, the sole reason for the poularity of this web site. Matters such as drawing up rules and regulations for this web site should be handled democraticall with input from all parties.
So San, you can go ahead and do whatever you want because this is YOUR website, but in case you do, please do us a favor and just change the name to San's Website and not GBNC.org!!!
In my opinion, if this website has problems, posting messages like that, especially from you my fren, you tread on a thin line between an authoritarian and a public advocate.
Peace.
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| NepaliKT |
Posted
on 27-Sep-01 05:05 PM
Martin Bahadur king,
I have visited quite a few other nepali sites and this site seems to be one of my favorites. I don't understand why you seem to have a problem with it.
-" Where would San draw the line on what I am about to post?", "Would this characterized as offensive BY SAN? ","Will he block my IP Address from this site because of what I am about to write"... I doubt anyone will be asking these kinds of question before posting anything. You seem to take this site too seriously. Take it as an entertaining site and it's fun!!!!!
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| KLB |
Posted
on 27-Sep-01 05:14 PM
martin bahadur king don't paranoid. I don't see threats here. If the moderator of the site says "If this continues, the only short term solution seems be publishing the IP address as someone has suggested." he/she is only doing the job. That did not mean that he/she is going to block your postings.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 27-Sep-01 05:56 PM
I support this initiative by San.
When the situation becomes intense, some compromise should be sought.
Cyberspace has been like the terriroty of wild west, as can be seen in Westerns,
and 'opportunity' to smear and denigrate others are too vast to be quantified.
It makes sense if we also apply loose kind of cyber-policing while not hampering
individual right of visitor's to post under anonymous identity.
One more suggestion: when there is controversy, the alternative can be
in taking the issue to the Quick poll, and starting discussion there (this website
already boasts all means for that!). It will provide avenue, arena and buffer for
contestants with verbal arsenals, while safeguarding the Kurakani section from
being overflown with unsavory postings.
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| ashu |
Posted
on 28-Sep-01 07:10 AM
Hi San,
As you and others well know, the "victim" of most these recent personal
attacks has been mostly me -- Ashutosh Tiwari. But you all also know my response: To be NOT at all bothered by these false attacks.
But even I am telling you here not to take any drastic step to stifle freedom
of speech here.
That said, I fully support Rajesh's and your idea of letting IP addresses
come up after every posting too. Please do think seriously about going ahead with that. This will be IN ADDITION to the already existing registration process.
Sure, both of these measures (registration and IP address) are NOT totally perfect. But that's OK. At the least, there's no denying that they push us all to
be more OPEN than we were before.
So, the best way to take care of attacks are two-fold:
First, MORE calm confidence on the part of the person who's being mindlessly attacked.
and, second, MORE info in public about from where each posting is originating.
After all, to draw a historical parallel, SCN too did and does allow one to check the IP address of each of the postings.
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| Bostonian |
Posted
on 28-Sep-01 10:42 AM
The resentment shown by one of the posters here treads on a thin line between absurdity and paranoia. While no reference was made regarding the closure of this site nor policing of this postings, besides publishing the IP address, the resenter seems to be stuck within his/her preconceived notions germinating from his/her resentment towards the success of this site.
Publishing IP address IN NO WAY diminishes or undermines the freedom of speech in this forum. In fact, it will promote ACCOUNTABILITY, - a concept which might be hard for the poster to fathom or come to terms with.
The resentment is especially harsh and uncalled for since this site has seen so much improvement and development thanks to the time and effort San has put into this. I agree that he does have the power to do certain things, but then again, I have never seen that power abused, which I'm sure most of the regulars who have been here will agree. Someone has to be a webmaster and he/she will have certain power that others won't. And that's how a site functions. So stop bitching and let him do his work, unless you have something better in mind.
To San, I have to suggest that you go on doing what you do best and not be concerned by some paranoid uncalled for lash of resentment.
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| Bijuli |
Posted
on 28-Sep-01 12:22 PM
San,
I think the first thing to do here is to kick out some people who instead of sharing constructive ideas and thoughts scrabble their misfortune at an apartment some where around Somerville and instead of being rational and logical describe their precognition of getting murdered by someone there and to my amusement expecting 30 responses out of that s***. San, stop that and the rest will stop automatically. Try it.
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| upperwestside |
Posted
on 28-Sep-01 12:46 PM
Why police the site at all? Let it be.
Serious posters will soon identify the like-minded. To me, Ashu, Biswo, Sally, Namita, Dumdum, GP, Gandhi, Diwask, and so many others whose names appear regularly on GBNC, represent certain set of ideas and value systems.
According to our temperament and time at hand, we choose to follow a particular thread more seriously than others. As long as there are no outright obsceneties hurled ("I want to fxxx you," or "your mother is a whore.") at posters, it's okay with me.
As for reservations that some posters have targeted fellow poster(s), here's my response. I do derive amusements from the secondary information, but if I have formed certain opinions on Ashu, Sally, or Biswo by now, they are based entirely on their own postings.
Let me not digress. I feel distinctly uncomfortable about any form of cernsorship, or monitoring. I have said this before and I am saying it once again. Since the royal massacre, GBNC has become a vibrant forum among all kinds of Nepalis, and those who care about Nepal, to share their ideas on such wide ranging topics as Nepali women, MCPs, immigration, Maoists, Naulo Janabad, Samrat Upadhyay, and Ivy League snubs.
Let's keep it this way. Wy tamper too much.
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| NK |
Posted
on 28-Sep-01 12:55 PM
Testing, testing.
I agree whole heartedly with Upperwestside. I draw a line when people start to use the profane language. Not only ideas are exchanged in this site but also it keeps check of people's monster size ego. I will keep on writing with the name NK whether you police this site or not. It might be criticism of some individual personally after looking at his/her behaviour on this site or it could just some brilliant stuff I managed to cook my self. Whatever. Well, maybe people will stop using the foul language. That would be nice.
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| san |
Posted
on 28-Sep-01 02:05 PM
We will be implementing IP address output for all postings starting now. This is on a trial basis. Let's see how Freedom of Speech works with a pinch of accountability.
In order to ensure some form of anonymity, only encrypted format of the IP address is shown.
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| Sunakhari |
Posted
on 28-Sep-01 02:53 PM
Should work just fine San (d)man!
i.e. if people who post post responsibly, accurately and respectfully!
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| Sunakhari |
Posted
on 29-Sep-01 06:51 AM
TESTING
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| Sunakhari |
Posted
on 29-Sep-01 06:53 AM
hmmmmmmmmmmmm......
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| Sunakhari |
Posted
on 29-Sep-01 07:02 AM
San
How about people like us? As you can see here, I post from different places but with the same nick - Yes thats me - the 2 different IPs. And you can be more than sure there will be another IP when I post again.
This is just my case and since I do want to read and post here and NOT be taken as another umm whatchamacallit - MUDSLINGER, how can I avoid that?
And this was not at all a rebuff to what you are trying to do - just another case scenario.
Maybe register nicks (respecting people's privacy)? Just a suggestion.
(reminds me of good ole irc days!)
Cheers
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| San |
Posted
on 29-Sep-01 01:01 PM
Sunakhari,
As long as it deters one single individual from indulging in a personal smear campaign using different usernames, I think this form of identification should be sufficient for the time being. The ID will, in no way, diminish the credibility of any posters who post relevant materials using 2 or more computers. Users are free to use the registration process that is available to anyone who wishes to be registered users of the site.
Have a great weekend!
San
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| Sunakhari |
Posted
on 29-Sep-01 02:27 PM
Thanks!
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