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| ashu |
Posted
on 27-Sep-01 05:42 AM
Namaste dear attackers,
(This is long: and I had FUN writing this. I now expect at least 30 responses
below.)
OK, to your caterwauling, I add these greetings from Cat-meow-ndo!
Yes, I am back again after a day of hard work and all that . . . to relax and basically to have fun!!
You know, I am beginning to relish the fact that by typing a few words here
and there on this Web site, I can OBVIOUSLY cause sleepless nights and/or
arouse murderous obsession in some apartments around Somerville. To give
you an analogy: Just as Osama Bin Laden is behind every terrorist attacks
against America even as American can't conclusively prove his involvement,
the two Somerville guys -- you all know who they are -- are behind all these attacks against me, and that's OK :-)
Meantime, let me share a secret with you all: The best way to deal with
personal attacks (apart from reading Shakespeare) is to laugh a lot, have fun,
live a productive, open-minded life and just shrug off this litany of mindless attacks with a Zen-like sense of calm, confidence and humor.
It really works. After all, if you haven't done anything wrong, or are ready to learn from your past mistakes, and are ready to go face-to-face with your attackers anywhere anytime, hey, there is really nothing for one to fear in
life.
And, sadly, nothing makes one's attackers spill more of their own EMOTIONAL energy all over and therefore make themselves weaker than the fact that you
can, quite honestly, accept their attacks for being mind-numbingly dull.
As one of history's most-attacked persons Eleanor Roosevelt famously remarked, "No one can hurt me without my permission." An that has become pretty much my attitude too. And there is NOTHING these attackers can
do about that.
And so, the FUNDAMENTAL DECISIONS I have made for myself:
1) I continue to DEFEND the rights of all these attackers to continue attacking Ashutosh Tiwari.
I say that because I do have enough faith in my attackers as fellow Nepalis that sooner or later they will realize that while disagreements, even vehemently
strong disagreements, over issues among adults is a fact of life, attacking
people's personalities or character or whatver is just going to be a waste of their own emotional resources.
2) I reserve my rights to continue to shrug off these attacks WITHOUT thinking
any less of Nepalis in general and of visitors to this Web site in particular.
3) Unlike what Namita ordered me to do, I am NOT going to "shut up" here. If
this particular decision drives some people crazy, well, tough luck.
4) Finally, I reserve my right to remain undisturbed/unperturbed from all these attacks, and will, time-permitting, continue to have fun by posting stuff here.
That's it.
As I said, I now expect at least 30 responses (filled with the usual boring attacks)
below.
To quote Clint Eastwood, "Go ahead. Make my day."
oohi
ashu
ktm, nepal
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| TP |
Posted
on 27-Sep-01 09:31 AM
Ashu,
Keep up what you are doing. I know that sometimes what you write may sound little coarse to digest. But that's okay. All I care about is - unlike most of us here in this forum, you criticize ideas and not people. It will take some time for the rest of Nepali folks here to learn that! Until that happens, we will wait patiently.
TP
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| gumnaam |
Posted
on 27-Sep-01 09:47 AM
Hey TP
are you the toilet paper that Ashu uses to wipe his butt? or are you ashu himself?
Rest of the world learning to what? hahahahahhahahaha
Read some of his previous postings. People enjoying his postings are sick and tired of him (Ashutosh's) pettiness.
Read before you suck up
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| Ram Babu KC |
Posted
on 27-Sep-01 10:00 AM
My thoughts exactly Gumnam....
TP=TOILET PAPER= Soft form of paper used to clean yeself after defecation or urination. Eg. Ashu uses TP to spread his feces.
It will take some time for the rest of Nepali folks here to learn that! Until that happens, we will wait patiently.
What do you mean by this statement ??? What are you ? You Hypocrite.
You guys should go to hypocrites union.
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| GP |
Posted
on 27-Sep-01 07:50 PM
Now, I can slowly started to believe that what Ashu has
said before. Here there are some guys from Sommerville
who will attack or try to humiliate those who appreciate
Ashu's any article whether its an excellent or moderate.
They are borned with different fake names to prove
Ashu is wrong. Hey, Sommerville guys, its not you
to decide on our behalf whether we like someone's
article or not, its we readers. You people even don't
have consistency in your identity, and you talk
identity is not important, but, you attack on articles
if the writers name is ASHU. How pathetic you guys
are. You have one great consistency, that is anything
that drops from Ashu, you will catch and throw.
Better you collect ..... and your cauliflower might
sell in a good price. That might be worthful. I was
wondering why the Cauliflower in KTM is now very
small, JAL-MAL napayeko bhanya ta these guys
moved to Sommerville. Better return to Nepal
All customers will appreciate you again.
Sorry to be Harsh. Its what you deserve.
You will start firing me, no problem.
GP
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| TP |
Posted
on 27-Sep-01 08:12 PM
GP, to reiterate what I wrote ealier...we Nepalese may be great and bright as individuals but we suck when we come together as a community. We cannot appreciate good ideas and neither can we criticize ideas properly. This leads to nothing but the doom of a community. Look at what has happened to Nepal. Look at what happens in 10 thousand Nepali associations abroad. Productivity of a community is hundred times less than conflicts.
Lastly...smile and the world will smile with you. Go to bed without remorse...because you never know if a plane will fall on top of you before you wake up.
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| Bijuli |
Posted
on 27-Sep-01 11:01 PM
(Response to Kitty)
Hi. I am new to this site. It's an interesting place...certainly full of energy. I've noticed lots of negativity towards Ashutosh Tiwari. Who is this guy? I remember one of my cousins mentioning his name to me once - Did he recently marry?
I feel for the guy but looks like he's done everyone wrong.
Dear Kitty,
You definitely seem new to this site, at least it is a new name. However, irrespective of all the possibilities I am sure this community will receive you warmly. This community doesn't 'particularly' practice something which can be described as "track down and attack" sort of behavior, so any name you use will be a mere representation of your thoughts and ideas.
‘Some people’ disagree though. Some people want/challenge you to come out with your “real name” especially when you disagree with what they have to say. And when you don’t, you become a part of a collectivity – “the attackers”. Kitty, you might want to know that ‘some people’ in this community use this phrase “the attackers” in a rather strange fashion. For them “the attackers” are not really the people who attack. Rather they are the people who have a different opinion than their own and those who have consciously disagreed with their thoughts and ideas, without coming out with their “real names”. For ‘some people’ who have never grasped the idea of individual differences, which has been around since the days of Darwin and Galton, this is a big insecurity. They want these people to be tracked down and attacked, personally or emotionally but by all means. So “the attackers” are the group of people who are yet to be tracked down and attacked.
I hope you get the point.
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| GP |
Posted
on 28-Sep-01 12:29 AM
What I realized after watching Japanese elementary
schools, was that we did not have enough education
on SOCIAL SCIENCES. Yes, Japanese teach their kids
in school how to talk with Parents (not via book),
how to talk with Teachers, how to talk with friends,
the voice intonation, and real practice. They ask
their kids to speak over microphone, so you can
find the kids fluently speaking with very organized
words in TVs or any occasion. This gives them, the
real idea and the differences that lie with our relation
with our parents, with friends, with teachers,
with peoples outside home, and with strangers.
Not, only that the elementary schools have hardly
any peons to clean the rooms, but, they train their
kids to clean class rooms to their own toilets. Well,
the same kids when return to their home deny
to do the things what they were doing at schools.
It was a training with long term vision. What we
learned at schools ? Nothing more than groupism,
racism, and hate, and we all learned is how to be
sarcastic, we enjoyed when someone said PATCH
PATCH ot our rivals but we always teased the peoples
who were positive towards anyone calling a
CHAMCHA, and this behavior is not fading, but,
we are practicing it here and whereever we meet
another Nepali. Its true not only in Cyberspace,
its true in USA and in Japan and in Thailand
and also in India, probably in hell or heaven too.
Nani dekhi lageko bani.
We need extensive reformation in our
SOCIAL STUDIES.
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| RamBabuKC |
Posted
on 28-Sep-01 09:58 AM
Are you guys having inferiority complex here ?
You seem to forget that you belong to the ppopulation that you are bitching about. jUST BECAUSE THE POPULATION WOULD NOT ABIDE BY THE NORMS THAT YOU WANT YOU ARE LASHING OUT TO YOUR ENTIRE POPULATION. SHAME ON YOU. Yu guys consider yourselves intellectually superior and you think you ought to be treated higher or above the rest of the Nepali population. I'd say the entire population should get togather and kick you(HYPOCRITES) out of this site.
I hope that guys like TP, GP, Biswo never gets elected to any public office cause you are most likely to be corrupt. When things don't go your way you lash out at the people. "oh yes I'd like to indulge but I do not want any dirt on me " Man you make me sick.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 28-Sep-01 12:20 PM
>I hope that guys like TP, GP, Biswo never gets elected to any public office cause
>you are most likely to be corrupt. When things don't go your way you lash out at
>the people. "oh yes I'd like to indulge but I do not want any dirt on me " Man you
>make me sick.
Hi Ram Babu Ji:
Last time, I wrote on a thread regarding gbnc president election how I found
myself incompetent in handling queues of complaints, and in reconciling between
different type of members in my differen tenures in such elected jobs . Some
eager to hold activities, some prefering to shun such activities, some miser , some
extravagant. It is really a tough job, and you can't concentrate on what you are
supposed to do, specially if the job is being done in addition to one's actual job.
see my reaction in: http://www.gbnc.org/FORUM/CFM/OpenThread.cfm?forum=2&ThreadID=1729
So, you don't have to worry about my being " a corrupt, elected officer of future".
As for being hypocrite, yes, may be we are all hypocrite of some kind. For
example, here you are lashing out at me, and accusing me of something
like "When things don't go your way you lash out at the people". Then, let me
ask you, after reading this, what is different between we two?
Yes, having stance for something is commendable. But what is good if our response
is governed by hysteria, emotion and bigotry rather than by reason? This website
is visited by hundreds of people everyday. They all have their own interpretation
of events, their own philosophy about social norms, and I don't think I will be in
agreement with all of them. But that doesn't mean that I will (should) go and
criticize them all. There are instances where I have told the discussant: 'well, if you
think you are right, prove it. Or let's wait until it is proven.' Please show me where
I have lashed out at my opponent without reason. In stead, I can show a lot of
instances where I have said,'well, I am sorry for my mistake.'
As for being one corrupt officer, there is no guarantee that any of us won't be
corrupt if we become minister in Nepal . It is the rules,and enforcement of those
rules, that governs individual's conduct . And of course, the cultural tradition he
inherited and his ideologies also does. This is the reason why I always say
that we should make rules, we should have independent constitutional bodies, we
should have free media and we should give people more say over the affairs of
Nepal. Girija Koirala, or Madhav Nepal becomes corrupt when then see no
controlling authority, when they think that they can become corrupt with
impunity.Now who had ever thought that people like Moda Nath Prashrit would be
blemished after being minister only once?And also , one extreme surprise from NC:
Marshal Julum Shakya. He was in jail for more than 15 yrs, and he became
extremely notorious in 10 months of being minister.
You can't say what the person will become by looking at his face. Everybody
has vice and virtue. Social compulsion suppresses the vice, and stimulates the
virtue from within. For whom social compulsion doesn't apply, their virtue may
not be that stimulated.
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| TP |
Posted
on 28-Sep-01 11:18 PM
*Ram Babu jee,
Let's accept the fact that there are some people amongst us who have broader knowledge of world matters and events. Ashu and Biswo may be two of them. Let's be honest and appreciate their sharing of information on this site. I know that some people are ridiculed by seeing Biswo and Ashu posting news excerpts. Why they do that? - some may wonder. Are they trying to display their ability to aggregate news? Are they trying to display the fact that they know more than we do. That depends on how you look at the matter. If you are the jealous type who does not appreciate other people being more intellectual than you, then you probably would say Ashu and Biswo are trying to show off things. I have given some thought into this also. I look at their postings in such a way that I try to think that their postings might spark some intellectual conversation here. When people run out of information and ideas, they start attacking people. Ashu and Biswo don't seem to run out of ideas. If I find some of their postings that do not make me curious, then I simply ignore it.
And by the way, Ashu and Biswo, keep up what you are doing. Don't lose your temper if people attack you in person. If you do, then you become one of them. Rest - keep up the good spirit. Let's agree on one thing - if you don't like the postings here, let's go to some other discussion boards. There are thousands of good forums out there. Let's not attack people if you don't like their postings.
TP
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| Vadra |
Posted
on 29-Sep-01 02:31 PM
You are so cool and sexy man. Keep up your hard work.
Love
Vadra
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