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| Nhuchche |
Posted
on 09-Oct-01 10:45 PM
Seems like a likely story but then again this might be just another story:
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| Nhuchche |
Posted
on 09-Oct-01 10:46 PM
Here's the link http://www.earthtimes.org/oct/worldinchallengeroyaloct5_01.htm
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| ashu |
Posted
on 10-Oct-01 01:29 AM
According to this story, Devyani wanted to marry Dipendra NOT for being himself (warts and all), but for who he could be, and what he then could make her, i.e. the Queen of Nepal. And so, Devyani wanted Dipendra for the power, the prestige and, of course, for her mother's sense of validation of her self-worth. If Dipendra couldn't be that (i.e. the King and make here the Quuen), then he held no interest for Devyani. Call me a cynic, but this doesn't sound like a straight-from-the-heart kind of starry-eyed love that would drive lovers mad: but a story of strategic scheming and plotting, laced, of course, with considerable polish, charm and high-society gloss. I mean, if this story is to be totally believed, Devyani Rana could easily be a stand-in for a lead character in, say, a Sidney Sheldon novel, except that here she did not get what she wanted at the end. As for Dipendra, well, there is simply no excuse for what he did -- that, too, so foolishly, cruelly and so shockingly. Many in Nepal, myself included, are still trying to come to terms with what happened at the Palace on the night of June 1st. oohi ashu ktm,nepal
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| NK |
Posted
on 10-Oct-01 11:07 AM
Phew! Yet another "theory." But, maybe because I am romantic at heart I want to believe that our 'Dippy' did it out of desparation. Guns, drugs, money, power, maybe even some vodoo (!) and you never know what you are getting into.
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| oohi_ashu |
Posted
on 11-Oct-01 09:43 PM
There was a piece in The New Yorker (July 30, 2001) about the royal massacre. I think Namita and others have already referred to that piece. I liked the way that piece opened with a scenario describing Dr. Upendra Devkota's work. Personally, despite the usual emotionally-laden private attacks against Dr. Devota by the youngest son of a bitter neurosurgeon, it was great to see Dr. Devkota getting all the more recognition for his work, in New Yorker, nontheless. Though I am neither a relative nor a friend of Dr. Devkota, and though Dr. Devkota has his share of enemies, I, for one, was happy that he was recognized for who he is: a competent surgeon. As Kanak Mani Dixit famously says, "Among Nepalis, you are nobody and you are not important if you have no enemies." oohi ashu tm,nepal
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 11-Oct-01 10:15 PM
Ashu: Can you just stop this thing? This unwarranted attack specially just after we thought things were lulled. I am really sad about this. Again, why should family be brought forth? Frankly, most of the people here don't want to see these things again and again brought here. Bringing personal matter here already exacerbated situation. This makes this site no more attractive. Furthermore, why should we bring matter of one respected retired neurosurgeon? Can't we leave the gentleman in peace? See, I defend you from attackers. Always did. But increasingly, it has been difficult for me to distinguish between them and you.Specially when it comes about the basic nature of attack. Let people be in peace. In the most recent attack, he also refers to me. But , that really doesn't matter. If people are angry, then they need exit anyway. ----------**********-----------*************** I just read your comment on Nobel prize section. We have a lot of postings these days. So kinda difficult to follow what's going on. Even after your justification, the details of your reason remain murky. I just can't understand the inconsistency of the sentence " If he was so great, how come most of the educated Nepalis, including myself, have not read his works? I mean, besides perhaps Muna Madan, how many of us have read any of his other books? " because in your own admission" Unlike what Biswo thinks, academic economics does NOT capture the public imagination the way authors [of popular or classic literature] ", so by your own admission, literature do capture public imagination, but you haven't read any other book of Devkota than Munamadan.Not reading Devkota's book means your own weakness. I have at least read fervently Bhikhari, and Laxmi Nibandha Sangraha when we were in highschool. Before sending us to essay competition, my Nepali teacher always urged me to read the Laxmi Nibandha Sangraha which I believe is #1 essay (even by sale standard) in Nepal. 'Yatri', a fabled poem, is also from Bhikhari( I am confused though!). Let's agree on one point: since literature captures public imagination, Biswo Poudel or Namita Kiran, or Soham Dhakal have a modicum of knowledge about this thing.[Just like everybody in football ground can act as a couch] And just like fans can say which star/player is how great in his capacity, Biswo can say what he said about Samrat. I mean what will you say if someone compares Surya Man Shrestha(our national football team member, at least a few years ago when I was in Nepal) to Pele. You don't play football, I don't play football, but heck, we will be certainly annoyed, and say,"This is ridiculous. This man has a long way to go." This also does't mean that I don't think Surya Man Shrestha doesn't have capacity, he is already a national team member, but Surya Man Shrestha has a long way to go , and may be he would succeed.We respect Surya, but not as much as Pele. Have a good day. Let's not try to make you or me or anybody look like antagonist of another struggling Nepali literary star. I wait for more works from Samrat. Not indulgence in such irrational comparison (by friend).After all, everybody wants to listen good thing about himself. But is not necessarily good. Here is one instance about late Narayan Gopal I want to mention. When he was alive, Kamana really criticized him a lot.Said he didn't sing national song, he was averse to Charity show etc etc. Kind of vendetta was going on, at least apparently. So, when Narayan Gopal died (may he be in peace now) after struggling for months in hospital bed[ a really sad moment to remember], Kamana published one special issue on Narayan Gopal's requiem procession. People thought it was purely mercenary act. Kamana editor replied , "It is not we who killed Narayan Gopal. It is those friends who offered him rakshi excessively, and who concocted enmity between us while molycoddling him killed him." Given that he died of liver and kidney disease, that reason sounded a lot cogent to me.
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| GP |
Posted
on 12-Oct-01 05:37 AM
Read it: With Devyani, the crown prince felt free to talk about his dream of eclipsing his father and becoming a great ruler like King Mahendra. But in order for Dipendra to pull off a royal coup after he became king, he would need the approval and backing of the major power in the region, India, which already dominated Nepal's politics with secret campaign contributions. Devyani's mother was close to the current prime minister in New Delhi and she promised the crown prince that she would do all in her power to help him achieve his goal. The king and queen were aware of their son's schemes. In their view, India represented a clear and present danger to Nepal's independence. If Dipendra was naEe enough to call upon New Delhi for support, he would end up as a puppet in the hands of India.
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| GP |
Posted
on 12-Oct-01 05:43 AM
Who are these guys: One of these men was a banker, whom the crown prince planned to make his secretary. This man had made his house available to Dipendra for assignations with Devyani. Another man, a businessman, had funded Devyani's flights around the world in pursuit of the crown prince.
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| VillageVoice |
Posted
on 12-Oct-01 08:55 AM
Dear Biswaji: <(To Ashu)...But increasingly, it has been difficult for me to distinguish between them and you.> I am with you there. Ashu, how I wish you would move on.
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| Sunakhari |
Posted
on 12-Oct-01 09:07 AM
Biswo, AMEN (to your comment to Ashu) :)
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