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| Anil Tandukar |
Posted
on 05-Nov-01 12:19 AM
I was not able to attend either of these schools but now I need to send my son to school and I want to get information for experienced people on which one is a better choice?
Kathmandu, Nepal
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| BP |
Posted
on 05-Nov-01 12:28 AM
Oh boy, you sure have picked a fiery topic. This post is going to have a long thread of replies I can assure you. One thing I have to say is that above a threshold of quality, which both of these schools are, the quality of education really depends on the student. There is no resource like a motivated student in a well-equipped school. I am sure your child will do equally well in either school, provided he can take advantage of the resources there.
But does going to a big-name school necessarily mean they do well in life? Well, the answer is probably yes most of the time. But one interesting thing to note is that after going to a big-name school, you cannot really count on that student being the hardest worker. An interesting study was done at the University of Virginia Medical Center, which showed that students from lesser colleges consistently demonstrated better work ethic during residency training than those who had graduated from the Ivy League colleges.
So there. As long as your child goes to a good school, instil in him the proper work ethic and he/she will go far.
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| echo |
Posted
on 05-Nov-01 02:46 AM
That would be an appropriate question for a person who has attended both Budhanilkantha and STX. It looks impossible but I hope you find one.
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| ashu |
Posted
on 05-Nov-01 04:25 AM
Hi,
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| dude |
Posted
on 05-Nov-01 10:08 AM
there are couple of ppl who attended both budhanilkantha and st. xaviers. i know some of them are in boston area also. i would love to hear from ppl who went to both of these schools, and point out good side/bad side of these schools.
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| curious |
Posted
on 05-Nov-01 11:42 AM
Is it true that boys from budhanilkantha are masters of the Buttdart game ? Had heard all sorts of rumors in KTM but was not sure.
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| diwas k |
Posted
on 05-Nov-01 11:43 AM
I went to STX during the 80's during which period Budhanilkantha was enjoying the royal chattra_chaaya. Times have changed and those same qualities that would make one school stand out against the other are no longer relevant. I have some very good friends who went to Budhanilkantha and who measure their growth and accomplishments (both academic and personal) on different grounds than I do of my own.
My only suggestion to you would be to not let your son be a victim of your own expectations of him. A lot of people have used their STX, SMS, Budhanilkantha (and mostly those Darjeeling kinds) attending children as a front for their self-aggrandizing agenda. Give him the freedom to make mistakes, and opportunities to learn from them. Give him the guidance to be the kid he deserves to be at his tender age (oops.. a little bit of Jerry McGuire..) . What school he goes to are just secondary to everything else you or your samaaj could do to shape him into a free-thinking open-minded enterprising individual, or to prevent him from possessing these wonderful qualities.
diwas k
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| Sangey |
Posted
on 05-Nov-01 12:59 PM
Diwas K,
What do you mean by "those Darjeeling kinds?" I am from Darjeeling, very much proud of it, but did not know that we are a kind of our own.
I hope you are not stereotyping us like "Newar" did to Gurungs in the other posting(Nepali Arrested...) where he said, "...gurungs indeed got no buddhi.. brain or mind."
I know you are better than that.
Sangey.
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| sunakhari |
Posted
on 05-Nov-01 01:14 PM
Diwas, I went to a school in darjeeling and am curious as to how we have become a different kind or did you mean - Darjeeling people are a kind of their own?
Whats wrong if a parent has big dreams for his/her child/children and sends him/her to a reputable school and then hopes in the future that child would help out in any way? How is this different from all of our parents?
And (UNFORTUNATELY) you are wrong in a sense about which school the child goes to. In a society such as ours, the school one goes to does make a big difference later on in life. Maybe its shallow to all of you ethical people but its reality (for the time being).
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 05-Nov-01 01:15 PM
Anilji:
You must be a proud father, your son has such a great choices.
I think both of those schools are great. I admire Budhanilakantha a lot, because
it draws people from all districts, and from all economic classes. (I don't know
if St Xaviers does the same, though.)
However, I think it is also important to remember your own house is always #1
school for your kid.
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| diwas k |
Posted
on 05-Nov-01 01:15 PM
In reply to Sangey:
I meant those parents who found it important to send their kids to Darjeeling and other similar places for the reasons I referred to.
diwas k
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| sunakhari |
Posted
on 05-Nov-01 01:29 PM
Diwas,
I think, parents at a point in time, did not have a lot of choices regarding good schools in and around the valley (elsewhere in Nepal as well). They chose to be away from their children for extended periods of time, mothers gave up their children to boarding schools (this could not have been easy) WHY?? all in the name of educating their children so they could come up to the standards of the rest of the world! This was no easy feat for any of our parents. No parent that I know of has any ulterior motive to educate a child. A parent always wants the best for the child(ren). Many of us here are a result of that. Our parents wanted us to have the best, be the best and be educated.
Anil Tandukar has a very valid problem! He wants the best!!
I would say, look at both the schools and compare them if you have the choice of both. Then make the decision appropriately and choose what suits your child's personality the best. Boarding schools do have one plus point - the child learns how to fend for itself among its peers. In a society like ours, our time is not very organized nor does it revolve around a child. Boarding schools have regulated time for everything and a child learns how to adhere to time management.
My two-bits on this topic. Very interesting topic Anil
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| diwas k |
Posted
on 05-Nov-01 01:46 PM
In reply to sunakhari:
Please refer to my response to sangey re: darjeeling kind.
Its OK (and important, too) to have dreams. Its also OK to send the child to reputable school. Nothing wrong in hoping for a bright future for the child. But would it not be detrimental to the child to expect them to mold into the parent's vision alone? One is free to send their kids to whichever school their SOCIETY prefers and even regards very highly. And one is free to make their child an ideal puppet for the society. Total freedom to the parents to use their children's formative years to fulfill their own agenda.
As for society as ours, where vanity is valued more than enterprise and individuality, one is free to fall prey to its own misgivings, out if ethics or out of reality..
Oh, its also all right if one chooses to defy the distorted visions of our society, and give their child a sense of individual value and purpose in life.
diwas k
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| sunakhari |
Posted
on 05-Nov-01 01:51 PM
Diwas,
your points well noted and positively taken.
To be different is seen as being ORIGINAL but to defy is seen as rebellion.
Choose what you may :). A note of caution - depends how flexible one's surrounding is.
Cheers
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| Shail |
Posted
on 05-Nov-01 02:31 PM
Hi Anilji,
Just out of curiosity, are you presently living in the States and trying to decide whether you want to send your son to Nepal for education? Or do you live in Nepal?
The reason I'm asking is because I used to study in Budhanilkantha and then I came here when I was still quite young....So I've seen both worlds.
Shail
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| uttam |
Posted
on 05-Nov-01 02:51 PM
Since I studied in Budhanilkantha (BNKS), I am biased towards my high school for the obvious reason. I do not know much about Xavier's to say which one is better. One thing I can say for sure, you will not repent if you decide on sending your child to BNKS.
You could visit www.sebsonline.org and www.bnks.edu.np. I guess Xavier's also has its site. You could then decide which one suits your child, if these are the only options you are thinking of ( and provided your child is admitted to both the schools).
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| NK |
Posted
on 05-Nov-01 02:52 PM
Sunakhari wrote:
... Boarding schools do have one plus point - the child learns how to fend for itself among its peers. In a society like ours, our time is not very organized nor does it revolve around a child. Boarding schools have regulated time for everything and a child learns how to adhere to time management....
Budhanilkantha or St. Xaviers. Or why not rato durbar. I have heard that school is quite good. The founders are here in the states. I have not asked them yet if it was to promote the school... anway... the choice some people have to deal with. I would say Nepal must be doing well if a father is torn between these two choices. In fact, I wanted to write about the existence of God. But I will write that later. This subject pulled me. I am beginning to think that to prove God does not exist is a little daunting task.
Now to the vexing question and particularly Sunakhari's argument. First disclaimer: sunakhari I have personally nothing against you but I am vehemently oppose to the idea of sending ones child to the so-called boarding school. I have header many many horror stories that take place in these so-called temple of learning. I know first hand account of sexual abuse, I have seen with my own eyes lice infested head of my brothers, and the things they did not dare to tell any soul. If they don’t' have a good relation with some students who are stronger or bigger then they are indeed in trouble. I guess, maybe they will learn how to make alliance so that they could fend themselves. Come to think of it that is not such a bad lesson. You talk about time management. 'Managing time is such a jazzy concept I sometimes feel we are too much attracted to it - unnecessarily. It sounds great, especially in business management courses. But have other people/kids who were a day scholar does when to finish or how to prioritize their chores? This whole idea of sending a child to boarding school is cooked up by the rich British. and of course Indians followed up the suit and Nepali picked it up. A child needs love, above all - love from their parents. A hired help is just that -a hired help. Whether it is a 5000Rs/ month so called English Boarding School or a 300dollars/week babysitter.
Again as Diwas K pointed out let's not get involved too much into the name game. The "hottest school", the "biggest star" the "must haves" or the "coolest thing of the moment.." I think A. Tuladhar wants to send his child to the best school possible and that underpinning idea is commendable. And as Biswo pointed out home is the best school for a child. Again, I cannot stop myself saying it again R.K. Narayan was home schooled (just one example) and 'Dippy' was the product of Eton and Budhanilantha. The reason I thought the name of R.K. Narayan must have something to do with his ‘Malgudi days’ that I just started to read once again.
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| Curious |
Posted
on 05-Nov-01 03:08 PM
budha students have inferiority complex against the guys from xaviers.
Hamro pyaro ramro school St xaviers
gyanko batti balidao St xaviers
Maybe because they did not have st marys next to them, they had to resort to buttdart.
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| sunakhari |
Posted
on 05-Nov-01 03:11 PM
NK,
Believe me, I am not at all offended personally by your POV.
In fact, the time management factor did not come across as I had intended. But the aspect I was talking about (and if you would to go into it in great detail, I would love to) is the fact that our Nepalese society (as a whole, I am speaking generally) did not have a lot of amenities when it came to child-rearing.
Parents here are so much more "into" child development activities etc - ANYWAY I think the two of us can go on and on about this - lets just start another thread hai?
Cheers
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| VANASTHALI GUY |
Posted
on 05-Nov-01 03:49 PM
Bnks and xaviers are two worst school of Nepal.Vanasthali is the best in everything and proud to be one of the best school of Nepal from 1975.
VANASTHALI RULES
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| cracker |
Posted
on 05-Nov-01 04:12 PM
In the past there has been bad practices like bullying, sexual harasments and abuse inside budhanilkantha school, I don't know how things are these days..since parents don't see their kids everyday parents are usually unaware of those things. the general facilies are pretty good, like sports and academics.
I personally don't like the idea of isolating children inside school compound. The only influence they get are from few of their friends. I would say good parenting is lot more valuable than schools..
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| kancha |
Posted
on 05-Nov-01 04:17 PM
looks like people dont have anything to do besides talk about bullshit. who care whether u r from budha or xaviers, the bottom line is have u graduated from the states or not. if not then go to hell. ur resume wont be preety if it has certification from either of these freaky school. get some lesson morans.
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| joie de virve |
Posted
on 05-Nov-01 04:53 PM
Anil Tandukar was probably hoping for some recommendations by parents or ex-students of BNKS and St. Xaviers but the discussion seems to have digressed into something else (which I have to admit, I found more interesting than the original question of which school was better – sorry Anil).
I agree with Diwas K when he says it would be detrimental to children to mold them into something based solely on their parent’s vision of what is successful. I’ve seen too many friends and relatives practically bullied and emotionally blackmailed into professions that are not of their own choosing. As well as most parents mean, they shouldn’t attempt to live vicariously through their children. And that’s where Diwas K’s other point comes into play. (“as for our society, where vanity is valued more than enterprise and individuality…”). It seems to me that most Indian and Nepali parents are too busy vying with each other for all the wrong reasons (a case of ‘if the Jones’ have one, I want one too!’?). There’s a very fine line between competitiveness and just plain jealousy and unfortunately too many parents fall into the latter category.
Granted Anil Tandukar has a valid problem (for want of a better word?) in deciding which school to send his children to. But parents all over should remember that children learn their first values at home and if parents want to mold their children into anything, they should do all they can to mold them into independent individuals who are capable of having a mind of their own and who aren’t afraid of showing that they can think for themselves.
And just for the record: no, I’m not a parent, and neither do I have all the answers and by no means am I trying to preach to the multitude of parents out there who probably have several years of experience under their belts.
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| Shail |
Posted
on 05-Nov-01 05:17 PM
Just out of curiosity,
I'm assuming that a quite of few of you guys and gals (gotta be politically correct ;-) who write to this conference (bulletin, whatever) went to school in Nepal for the most part and then came here for higher education.
If you do decide to settle here and raise a family here, do you think you would prefer to send your kids back to Nepal for their education? If you were to raise your kids here, how do you think it would positively or negatively affect your children's intellectual and emotional growth and their identity. How do you think it would be different from who you became as a person from growing up in Nepal?
I don't know, I just started coming to this site. Maybe these are innappropriate questions here. Would luv to hear your thoughts,
Shail
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| Dr. Graham's Homes |
Posted
on 05-Nov-01 05:40 PM
Anyone in the Boston area from DR. Graham's Homes (Kalimpong) would love to get in touch.
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| Anil |
Posted
on 05-Nov-01 07:36 PM
Thanks to everyone for sharing their views. I was more interested in the kind of values shown by the schools in general. Hope that someone can post more insightful article. thank you.
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| La Femme Nikita |
Posted
on 05-Nov-01 09:25 PM
I went to Budhanilkantha.
I personally found the school environment stifling.
I do not know if the situation has changed now, but it was a quasi-military institution in my days.
Ironically enough, the school, in spite of havin a grand reputation, did not have the environment conducive to celebrating diversity of opinions.
Top strength of BNKS - Reputation undoubtedly.
The most notable point of BNKS - Too much of a hierarchical structure.
I would say, make your child a day-scholar, whichever school you send him/her to. A child needs his/her parents to develop well emotionatally.
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| Sonic |
Posted
on 06-Nov-01 12:19 AM
If your son/daughter is a mama's boy/girl, send him/her to a day school. Don't send him to BNKS.
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| cardinal |
Posted
on 06-Nov-01 03:12 AM
tara khas jasle j bhanepani bnks bhanda ramro school aaru kunai hunai sakdaina.
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| joie de virve |
Posted
on 06-Nov-01 09:21 AM
To Dr. Graham’s Homes
I’m not in the Boston area or even anywhere near the East Coast (does that disqualify me from contributing to the discussion forum here??). But I am a Grahamite (ISC ’92) so if you’re ever in the mid-west, you’re more than welcome to look me up. You might want to check out the yahoo DGH club started by an NYC Grahamite.
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/drgrahamshomes
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| sunakhari |
Posted
on 06-Nov-01 09:36 AM
I have stumbled across
http://www.drgrahamshomes.com
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| joie de virve |
Posted
on 06-Nov-01 09:40 AM
To Shail
I didn’t attend school in Nepal but did live in both India and Nepal for a few years and from what I saw and experienced, I’m not too sure I’d really want to raise my children there. I think my children (when and if I ever have them!) would definitely be better off here in terms of both educational and personal growth opportunities. I firmly believe its up to the parents to instill morals and values in their child and hopefully when I do have kids, I’ll be able to find the right balance between Eastern and Western values. Ideally, I’d like to take the best of every culture I’ve encountered and pass it on to them. Maybe that’s too grandiose a plan but I figure I won’t know till I try it.
As far as their identity goes, I wouldn’t dream of not passing on my ethnic roots, traditions, culture etc. to my children, but I’d like to give them the option of where they live (and of course what they want to be and whom they’d like to be with) once they’re old enough to decide for themselves.
How would this differ from my childhood? It wouldn’t. I spent a large portion of my life and most of my formative years away from India and Nepal, and if I might say so myself, I think I turned out pretty darned good :)
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| joie de virve |
Posted
on 06-Nov-01 11:07 AM
Anil,
Found this in the www.sebsonline.org ....
Author: bhatte Post date: 11/6/2001 11:15:21 AM EST
I went to BNKS till the tenth grade and then went on to St. Xavier's Campus ( different than the School but similar in many ways). So i do have experiences in both worlds, if you will.
BNKS taught me to be independent but at the same time also taught me the "team Spirit", which I think is crutial in todays environment. BNKS also gave me a chance to grow up with students from all parts of the country from different culture and caste and class, and taught me that peeople are like snowflakes; two are never the same. In other words it taught me against prejudice. There are many good things that i as a student aquired from BNKS, however, there atre negatives to it too.I am proud to be a "BOKA" :)
The seperation of the gender in BNKS is, in my oppinion, very misleading and creates more harm than benefits.
Another negative is, the school is run in a more Totalitarian manner which has more negatives. For example, the parents are not allowed to visit on weekends( if I want to see my child then i should be able to). This creates a distance between the child and his/her family.Might not be significant but does have an impact. interaction between the parents and the children is crutial at younger ages like 10-15.
Students were being hit, when i was there, by the faculty. P.E. teachers and Mr. Kayasta were among the top 'Hitters". Mr. Chaundice was famous for hitting students with hockey bats and other similar types of sports gear.this I think is a serious issue and I hope that it has changed. I was beaten and slapped a few times.and trust me it is not pleasant.
St. Xavier's Campus, a fine and intellectually rich istitution, has a lot of positives. I met outstanding people like Late Father Charles Law and Fr. Brooks, who give students the incentive to do better and guide them in a time in students life that is most crutial as far as making the right decision for the future is concerned. I had one of the best times of my life at St. Xavier's. Met a lot of cool people and life loong friends. I am proud to be a Xavierian.
Xavier's had its negatives too. I cannot speak about the school so all my comments are related to St. Xavier college. It seemed and was obvious that if you did not gradute from xavier or mary's you were not "in". this took a while for a lot of other students and I to figure this out. It was seen especially in the college's "Student Council." The faculty member NKS, incharge of the senate was a little bias towards the students from Xaviers and Mary's and their group of friends. one could see the discomfort and dissatisfaction in him when students from other schools won the election to the senate's prestigious official positions in 1997-98 term. Having said all that, i would like to add that NKS was really helpful and i am glad that these students helped him to believe that students from other schools are also capable of performing as good as the xavarians. He is still a cool DUDE...
another negative of xavier was that it did not interact with any other institution of the country other than Lincoln school. I think that there should be more joint ventures and programs organized with other institutions and students from different colleges.
I feel that I am lucky to have attended both these institutions and I would want my kid to go to an institution that has a combination of both these prestigious schools. So i guess i am looking for a "Xaviarian Boka/Boki" institution...;) sorry that i can't express all my thoughts here...if you would like to know more about my experiences at both institutions then please e-mail me. thank you.
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| Marco di Victor |
Posted
on 06-Nov-01 01:07 PM
Hi Anil:
I can feel and understand your concern to raise your kid in best school in Nepal. That is why, I can not stop writing somethings to you. To me, to be a sucessful, mature, responsible and educated are entirely depend on a person, how you give him/her the best enviroments to live. The enviroment can be family, school and surrounded friends. Afterall, the kids have to realise the gravity and the relevant of the time, which nobody can provide in any best school in better way than you can. That is why,I feel strongly today that school is just a mean to be eduacated or to be certified in his/her field of study. Nevertheless, I have to say that the choosing good and right school can help the kids to get good company, better enviroment, manner,creativity which can be very valuable in his/her days to come.
If you want to talk about me, I was grown up in typical middle class family where my dad is just mid-level bank manger all his life. He send me Vanasthali for my schooling. In my batch( s.l.c passing out batch of 89), my school did not possess lots of physical and extra-curriculam infrastructure for student's intelectual develpments. At a ssame time, Vanathali had a great deticated and motivated instructors, who are just giving you all kind of inspirations only for your life to be a successful person. I can not think today, even a single person was not impressed from those lectures. Then after slc, i went to Kathmandu valley campus( now KU) for I.Sc , where I meet all kind of freinds who have relatively best and higher marks in SLC( my friends average was 78% in slc) from Budhanilkantha/Xaviers to kanya school/ Bal kumari. At the time of graduating from KVC, I realised that the mixed backround and different identities of various schools between my friends helped me to understand the different people more resonably. Here is my point to be noted, educating in good school is not only the matter to development his/her intelectuality but also helping kids to be exposed with multi identities and idies in diverse society help kids to be more sensible than anything else. Today, all my 20 friends from my class of KVC are professional doctors and engineers ( except one , who will finish doctorate this year in chemistry). And then, after 1992, I left Nepal and I studied in India( Indian Airforce academy), Russia, switzerland and USA. And today, I speak six differents languages. Not only, i speak , but also i read, sing and listen the musics on six different languages. Certanily, I did not learned those all six languages in any class room of any countries where I studied because I use to study my field of profession in English with the help of enterpreters. I learned those differnt languages with the help of my private tutors where I use to go after school hours.
From past 4 and half years I am working in defence and aerospace industry as aerospace engineer. Today, I am 28 years old, and in past 10 years I travelled 8 different countries. Sometimes, I looked back to the time and think about my past and try to differentiate the values of good and bad things of my life. Eventually, I reach in the conclusion that what I am today is the results of my exposure with mix backround, culture, differnt schools,and my parents loves and cares and the last but not the least is my best friends company and valuable guidences in differnt countries. Therefore, I think, it is not only a matter to choose the best school for kids, but there are a lot of things to learn and get from outside world than to be received from the best school for indiviual developments.
regards.
Marco di Victor
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| ashu |
Posted
on 07-Nov-01 02:08 AM
Anil,
FIRST, have your son apply to BOTH schools, and have him get into BOTH
schools. Only with two acceptance letters in hand, will your family be able to even
BEGIN thinking about where to send your son.
I say this because both of these schools are pretty hard to get into in the first place, and, to toss a per cent point, both schools admit -- or so my sources say -- less than 10 per cent of those who apply in their 'entry-level' class.
Imagine that!
Less than 10 per cent of applicants accepted!!
Number for number, even Harvard University's notoriously choosy
Admisions Office can't boast of that kind of low acceptance rate!!
So, if you son does win admissions to both schools, then, simply toss a coin in
a "gai-ki-trishul style", go with that, and, meantime, focus on the being the best parent that you can be. At either school, your son -- if he studies well -- will get good education.
In Nepal, choosing between STX and BKS for the education of a youngster is
like choosing between a BMW and a Mercedez, though, lately, my admiration
for Rato Bangala School has gone up way high.
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| BP |
Posted
on 07-Nov-01 02:55 AM
Although I yearn to belt out my ingrained school anthem, "hamro, pyaro, ramro school, St Xavier's, St Xavier's..," I must admit that one of the things I have learned in life, and which has humbled me many a time, is that many people who have gone to what are considered "lesser" schools have consistently proven to be brighter than me, more industrious than me, more ethical than me, more courageous than me, etc etc. I admire he or she the most who tries...because effort is a seed that unfortunately requires a certain ensemble of environment to germinate into recognizable success. If you are humble, you will encounter greatness in many an individual by sheer interaction...at work, at school, or at the gas station.
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| Shail |
Posted
on 07-Nov-01 05:46 PM
To Joie de Virve
I don't know. I've also grownup in both worlds, and when I compare my friends in the States from Middle School and High school with my Nepali compatriots back home, I really have to question the values that kids in the States are taught.
We may think that as parents we can instill Nepali values despite the culture that our kids are in but that can be a real struggle for both kids and parents. Parents see their kids as being "Nepali" because they have been procreated from Nepali bodies, but the kids who are associating with American kids and television for 18 hours a day don't see a difference between the American kids and themselves.
I've seen two extremes. One is the parents that are fanatics who may have been the ones criticizing all Nepali ways in Nepal but become super patriots once they descend in American soil. Watching the parent's patriotism, you begin to wonder how Nepal runs with them in America.
The second extreme is the one's that think that they have been socially promoted when their kids refuse to eat rice at the Nepali party and someone has to specifically order from Pizza Hut for the little urchins.
Seen very few parents that could strike the proper balance. And I think this is going to be more and more of an issue as more and more Nepali parents start to settle in the States.
BTW, has anyone read the book: Third Culture Kids by David C Pollock and Ruth E Van Reken. It's about the difficulties that children face who grow up in cultures different than the one's their parents grew up in. I'd love to see that book adapted to Nepali families raising their children.
I'm sure people have seen the movie American Desi about an ABCD (American Born Confused Desi). Well a lot of Nepali families have very similar issues. And it's sad to see the conflict that arises because both the children and parents torn between cultures. Something that is not either party's fault.
Anyway I'm beginning to ramble, so I'll shut up,
Shail
PS (BTW, I'm aware of what "joie de vivre" is, but what is "joie de *virve*"?)
>How would this differ from my childhood? It
>wouldn’t. I spent a large portion of my life
>and most of my formative years away from
>India and Nepal, and if I might say so
>myself, I think I turned out pretty darned
>good :)
Not to speak of being very modest :o)
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| Sonic |
Posted
on 07-Nov-01 08:27 PM
>> In Nepal, choosing between STX and BKS for the education of a youngster is
>> like choosing between a BMW and a Mercedez
I'd say BKNS is Mercedez Benz and STX is BMW.
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| Sari- |
Posted
on 07-Nov-01 09:24 PM
I had few cousins who were from BKNS and few from STX and I found the STX ones to be more outgoing. BKNS boys are nice but a little khepa - no offense - probably due to the fact that they live so far away from the city.
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| Upre |
Posted
on 08-Nov-01 07:39 AM
Hi all,
At the end of the day what counts is what have you made out of the education you received at these schools. I cannot speak for Budhnilkantha (I am sure it is true with Budanilkantha) but I know St. Xaviers taught me important lessons in life that good education is not only mastering your subjects but also learning to live life to the fullest!
Thank you and have a GREAT day.
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| joie de virve |
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on 08-Nov-01 10:43 AM
To Shail
I’ve seen two extremes too – those super patriots you talked about and those who’re ‘proud’ they’ve almost forgotten their roots (go figure). Absurd, but true. There’s no doubt in my mind that finding the right balance isn’t as easy as it sounds but one can always try can’t they?
Besides, a lot has to do with what ones personal values are too. Perhaps I wasn’t as clear as I could’ve been when I said I’d like to find the right balance between Eastern and Western values, because values are basically the same which ever part of the world you come from - truth, integrity, honesty, ethics (doing the right thing) etc. What I should have said instead was that I’d like my children to know and be aware of their heritage – what they choose to do with that knowledge is ultimately their choice. I’m not one to impose my thoughts, opinions and beliefs on anyone – far be it for me to do that to my own children.
I’ve often felt like a pariah, like I don’t ‘belong’ to either the East or the West – so who am I to talk about how Nepali children should be raised in the US? But perhaps because I’ve been through the ABCD (no, I’ve not seen the movie) syndrome myself, I’ll be more aware of the difficulties my children might face. And then again, maybe they won’t face any difficulties in coming to terms with their cultural differences. My brother sure didn’t. He’s at home both in the US and in Nepal. Lets hope my children take after their ‘mama’.
It just struck me, Anil Tandukar must be shaking his head in dismay – look where his original question’s digressed to. Probably time for us to call it quits and close this chapter.
I was hoping no one would catch my typo (joie de *virve*) – wishful thinking on my part. I guess I’m stuck with it until I can cajole the webmaster to correct it for me.
Modesty never got anyone anywhere did it? :)
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| Rocker |
Posted
on 08-Nov-01 10:48 AM
I agree with sari and upre. Xavier's would the better choice.
rocker
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| bik |
Posted
on 08-Nov-01 10:53 AM
I don’t know much about Xavierian experiences, though I do have a few friends who attended that school too. As for myself, I went to Budha a long time ago; and perhaps things have changed since then.
One of the beauties of Budha was its diversity. I remember one end of a semester (term) when parents came to take their kids home. I was at the school gate and it was an amazing sight to see. There were a few kids that would be picked up on Mercedes. (I am speaking of the royal family and the Rana families of course). And, then there were those who would be picked up by relatives who still had “namlo”s on their hands and had little or no footwear (chapal) to speak of.
Maybe this assumption is ill based, but I also think most Xavierians come from wealthier families. And, regardless of what kind of education one receives in school, this becomes the X factor in determining where and how one ends up later in life. Especially in Nepal, where who u know and who u don’t means so much. Needless to say coming from a wealthier background also helps u be “cool”. It at least provides u with the necessary resources.
Another fact to consider is that Budha is a boarding school in the truest sense. Number of “day-scholars” is miniscule. Such seclusion has obviously has far reaching implications, both good and bad.
I hope that was helpful.
Bik.
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| La Femme Nikita |
Posted
on 08-Nov-01 02:00 PM
I find myself agreeing fully with Bik.
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| Siwalik |
Posted
on 08-Nov-01 02:41 PM
BNKS is outmoded. It is walled in. When the students graduate, they are hopelessly unprepared to deal with the real world outside thier cacoon. Homosexuality was a problem, from first hand account. Boarding school is not a good way to educate anymore, especially the young impressionable minds.
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| anil ko sathi |
Posted
on 17-Dec-01 05:30 PM
a anil kampayena.....man did u have a son? when r u getting married
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| mamamia |
Posted
on 18-Dec-01 08:23 PM
Siwalik said
>BNKS is outmoded. It is walled in. When the
>students graduate, they are hopelessly
>unprepared to deal with the real world
>outside thier cacoon. Homosexuality was a
>problem, from first hand account.
Coming from a Seber, that's quite a telling statement.
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| 93454475 |
Posted
on 19-Dec-01 01:11 AM
Xavierians making a statement about Budha Homosexuality after we heard all the stories about Father Moran?
Budha are modest- Budha teaches kids to be men- Xavariens always remain kids- brats!!!
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| dude |
Posted
on 19-Dec-01 01:12 PM
i was trying to find some of the old threads that have been discussed here about father moran (or is it father moron) about this whole issue. are they still here ??? am i blind or are some of them removed ???
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| Kiran Sitoula |
Posted
on 19-Dec-01 01:25 PM
Congratulations!
Both institution has given you enough academic qualities to express your opinion in the web. Let's get to the Nation building please. Can we do some fund raising so that more of such school will be made in Nepal in Mahakali, Karnali, Rapti, Bheri, Gandaki all the way to Koshi and Mechi.
e-mail me if you are interested sitoula@yahoo.com
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