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   I find Subhash Gurung incident, and the 06-Nov-01 diwas k
     I agree with Diwasji. We need to form 06-Nov-01 Biswo
       OKay then, what do we do now?? someone 06-Nov-01 sunakhari
         Organizations like ANA, ANMA and others 06-Nov-01 Sangam
           Any chances someone can talk to his brot 06-Nov-01 sunakhari
             The first thing: GBNC as an official 06-Nov-01 Biswo
               Biswoji, I am in for $1 or $2 per mon 06-Nov-01 sparsha
                 I dont know why should even talk about S 06-Nov-01 kancha
                   There is nothing wrong in appealing for 06-Nov-01 Biswo
                     Diwasji: You have raised a very valid 06-Nov-01 villageVoice
                       Diwasji and Biswoji: Very good idea. 06-Nov-01 villageVoice
                         Fund-aising is a good idea. So is lookin 07-Nov-01 Siwalik
                           Siwalikji: Membership is not for any 07-Nov-01 Biswo


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diwas k Posted on 06-Nov-01 01:23 PM

I find Subhash Gurung incident, and the twists and turn it is bound to take in US (and foreign) media, and the Hill, will be very parallel to those of the famous Kevin Mitnick ( www.kevinmiknick.com) and Wen Ho Lee (www.wenholee.org) incidents.

In all three cases the individuals were charged with breach of law: Mitnick - trespassing and accessing computer networks, Lee - downloading "CLASSIFIED" materials into an "INSECURE" system, Gurung - "attempting" to board an aircraft with "deadly" weapons.

In both Mitnick and Lee case, the government needed to produce a catch. Both were left in jails for extended period of time (absence of any DUE PROCESS).

Mitnick and Lee were represented in court and in press by various advocacy groups, professional organizations civil liberty groups.

Gurung's incident once more highlights a need for Nepalis to form some sort of advocacy group consisting of legal and other professionals. In this case, Mr Gurung is the ONLY person who can tell what he was doing with the "prohibited" items at that time. But we can, and we need to, work together to ensure he gets a fair legal representation and trial in court.

diwas k
Biswo Posted on 06-Nov-01 01:35 PM

I agree with Diwasji.

We need to form an umbrella organization comprising of active professionals living
in USA. The sooner the better. Until now, our Nepali organizations have been
present only nominally here. They could be here to welcome visiting dignitary,
but the struggle for civil liberty has not been in their work list. May be due to
lack of sufficient Nepali lawyers?
sunakhari Posted on 06-Nov-01 01:42 PM

OKay then,
what do we do now?? someone wants to outline something??
Sangam Posted on 06-Nov-01 01:56 PM

Organizations like ANA, ANMA and others should come forward on issues like this. If I am not mistaken ANA has a nepali lawyer in its ex. com. Its time put the resourses in use.

Sangam.
sunakhari Posted on 06-Nov-01 02:01 PM

Any chances someone can talk to his brother and see how anybody could help.
Any chance of us luring a Nepali lawyer to this site. Someone from India offered to help lol...there is bound to be one here who would want to help.
Biswo Posted on 06-Nov-01 02:01 PM

The first thing:

GBNC as an official Nepali organization can write to American authorities about
arranging the meeting with Subash. Then , gbnc arrange some representative in
Chicago, and meet with Subash...

I don't want to write a lot , because it will be too irrational. I know gbnc needs
money now. Its funding situation is miserable. May be an active membership
drive (in the style of NPR) once/twice a year will help a lot. US$1.00/month per
person can be a fine basic membership charge and we can start such membership
campaign just starting this month. Money is lifeline, and without money no
organization can do anything.

Lack of our own strong organization has made us weak. Let us think how to be
strong.
sparsha Posted on 06-Nov-01 03:03 PM

Biswoji,

I am in for $1 or $2 per month membership support fee for GBNC. If some one wants to contribute more then that shouldn't be a problem :)

I would like to know what GBNC and its other active and passive members have to say on this.
kancha Posted on 06-Nov-01 03:21 PM

I dont know why should even talk about Subash Gurung here. He's solely responsible for his own situation. Is he insane to take all those volatile things with him. dont he even had an idea that he will be in real trouble. Because of him all the people living here has to suffer the aftermath. Its his stupitdiy that the country has been linked to terrorist act and it has been widely spread throughout the world through media. Its not about Subash Gurung, its about Nepal and the people living in Nepal and aboard. I dont think there is any reason to help him and let him be in his own situation. May pashupatinath help him.
Biswo Posted on 06-Nov-01 03:56 PM

There is nothing wrong in appealing for fund. We may not get sufficient fund or
membership now, but it will increase in future. Everything needs time to mature.
It needs nothing, but just an appeal in website like this.Without money, sustaining
website like this in future will also be in problem(If sth goes wrong with this site).

Let's try this.
villageVoice Posted on 06-Nov-01 09:06 PM

Diwasji:

You have raised a very valid point. Let's do it. Subas does deserve a fair trial. I am all for it.

GBNC should get the ball rolling -- immediately. One dollar a month sounds fine but if someone wants to contribute more, so much the better.
villageVoice Posted on 06-Nov-01 09:08 PM

Diwasji and Biswoji:

Very good idea. Let's get the ball rolling. Subas Gurung needs a fair trial, a voice.
Siwalik Posted on 07-Nov-01 04:25 PM

Fund-aising is a good idea. So is looking after the interest of one of our brethren. But is membership a good idea for arising fund? I do not necessasrily agree that membership is the way to go. Simply starting a campaign in the community is a good way to go. If membership is introduced, then does it mean that those who do not contribute cannot participate in discussion? We have to look at greater impact on what membership means before we go ahead with such ideas. By the way, I am no where near Boston. I have spent one night and a day (in total ) out there.
Biswo Posted on 07-Nov-01 05:41 PM

Siwalikji:

Membership is not for any body to show it off, or to prevent somebody
from participating in discussions.It will never be used as discriminatory mean.

Membership was proposed so that it can be used as something for the purpose of
record keeping, organizational strength evaluation and making target more
easy(like we plan to have this much members next year etc. etc.).