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| ashu |
Posted
on 16-Nov-01 09:19 PM
JVD wrote:
>Ashu, what on earth did you
>do to these people???
Hi JVD,
A while ago, I disagreed here, quite strongly, with Namita Kiran hyphen Theune's hopelessly muddled and emotionally strident thoughts on the issue of 'globalization'.
She was offering globalization as a reason for September 11th ko terrorist
attacks, and her arguments were khattam.
At the time, I DARED point out the sheer inconsistencies in her arguments with some counter-examples drawn from her own life, and since then, she seems to have developed this Hindi filmi "mai tera khoon pi jaa.oon.gaa" style.
Since then, as Nobody and others have quietly observed and also commented, I
have been attacked right and left by her at every opportunity, AND by people who post under such sexy names like Kris, Juhi, Sabnam and the rest.
This was and is all expected and accepted in this FREE public forum.
By now, I am quite used to these attacks here and even have learnt to have
fun at Namita Kiran hyphen Theune's righteous expense.
(An aside: I am also used to my usual enemies from Somerville then jumping into such attacks -- anonymously, of course -- to milk Namita Kiran hyphen Theune's anger for their own eagerly-awaited emotional nourishment. But, hey, as I promised to San, Arnico, Gokul and others via private emails, I am NOT
going to get get involved further with these Somervillains here on
this site. )
Anyway, this is how this game gets played here.
Then again, after a good night's sleep, I have suddenly realized a number
of COLORFUL reasons as to why Namita Kiran hyphen Theune would INDEED
stoop low to call other people "dogs".
I am afraid that I cannot give out all those colorful reasons in polite company
in public.
Meantime, I hope Namita Kiran hyphen Theune, having written a poem and a play, now gets riled up enough to spend her TIME writing a book or a screenplay or
an epic about her favorite GBNC Web site visitor: Ashutosh Tiwari.
Can't wait for her another magnum opus.
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| wonderer |
Posted
on 16-Nov-01 09:36 PM
feri namita kiran ra ashutosh tiwari ko bull shit suru bho baa...
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| bostonian |
Posted
on 16-Nov-01 11:51 PM
There he goes again and again... yes, tell us again how you were hacked 5 times as you love to keep reminding us, whether or not we want to hear it.
Haven't you heard the ukhan "kaag karaudi garchha, pina sukdai garchha"? Now don't get offended my "calling" you a kaag!
You certainly have an ego of Voldemort but not the belly for it.
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| _BP |
Posted
on 17-Nov-01 01:08 AM
I wonder what would happen if we all met one day. Would there be fist-fights and hair-pulling or would we all enjoy a good laugh? I must admit now that I am more addicted to this site than ever before. Not for the intellectual content unfortunately, but just because of the arguments. I am sure all you guys are decent regular people, but God how we can disagree!
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| ashu |
Posted
on 17-Nov-01 01:34 AM
Hi there BP,
Let us chat and do guff-suff. Please send me an email re: your time (LA time)
and a site so that I too can log in and we can have a back-to-back conversation.
Tihar week-end in Nepal is always a lazy week-end anyway.
Meantime, don't let these attacks get to you at all.
If anything, please accept my invitation to enjoy these attacks for what they
are. As for me, I have learnt to mentally FRAME these attacks as deal-able mini-exercises that can only help me happily deal with LARGER mess I encounter in
the PUBLIC sphere in Nepal day in and day out.
I mean, these anonymous snipers can attack me all they want, hate me all they want and resent me for this and that for all they want.
What else CAN they do anyway?
But to take the words (both private and public) of the Web master San
Pradhan (who was a year behind you at school, if you remember), this site
is what it is today IN PART because of my being here.
And lest one of these stupid attackers now accused San of being my "chamcha", let me say that San has no reason to butter me up.
So, the truth is this: My attackers (there are only three of them out of 1000 or
so Nepalis in Boston-- but because they post the same hatred using various names, it can, at times, appear as though as though everyone were against
me! SO, be aware of this tactics)
Anyway, as I was saying, my attackers can hate even San's statement with all their might and drive themselves crazy with hatred and anger and give
themselves ulcers, but even they CANNOT DENY the the TRUTH in
San's point.
As the motto of Cal Tech goes, "The Truth Shall Set You Free", and, I firmly believe that sooner or later, the truth, the truth and nothing but the truth is
what that matters in the PUBLIC sphere to generate trust, and NOT raw,
reptilian emotions of pampered adults.
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| _BP |
Posted
on 17-Nov-01 01:47 AM
Ashu, who are these three people you refer to? And why do they attack you? I haven't been in touch with you for a while, and I am sure a lot of bystanders on this site are wondering the same thing. Did you know them when you were in Boston? Why the bad blood? Is it just over what has been posted on this site? I think a quick summary would be appreciated. I mean, these people definitely seem madder at you than you are towards them for sure.
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| _BP |
Posted
on 17-Nov-01 01:53 AM
By the way Ashu, why don't we chat right here in the GBNC chatroom? We can chat privately if your attackers crash the party :). I am usually free in the evenings (when not on call)...I guess you can figure out what time that would be in Nepal, probably early-mid afternoon. By the way, I have had a good experience in the GBNC chatroom. It is a nice set-up. Thanks to San Pradhan. I think I do remember him...:)
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| ashu |
Posted
on 17-Nov-01 02:23 AM
>Ashu, who are these three people you refer
>to? And why do they attack you? I haven't
>been in touch with you for a while, and I am
>sure a lot of bystanders on this site are
>wondering the same thing.
BP, allow me to post this GENERAL yet specific
message here.
My message to my usual attackers is this: Guys, let
us grow up, and put things in perspectives, shall we?
Unless my plans change for whatever reasons, I will be in Boston
for some time next year (2002), and I take this opportunity NOW
and in PUBLIC to invite you both to dinner at Tanjore Restaurant
in Harvard Square.
Over oven-fresh naan, Chickan Tikka Masala and copious supply
of Corona beer, let us have an open-ended guff session like mature
adults -- with sins of all parties forgiven and forgotten -- and
letting bygones be bygones and preparing to start -- even
skeptically -- afresh.
What do you say?
Sure, we don't have to be the best of friends from thereon. Nor do we
have to keep in touch with one another thereafter, but, at least, there
would be this FINAL CLOSURE to this whole saga.
What do you say?
If you are busy, I'd appreciate a simple yes and no in your own name here.
Though details of such a bhet-ghaat can be worked out later, CONCEPTUALLY, I am committed -- as I have promised to San, Gokul and Arnico and others -- to
this TOTAL "cease-fire" from my side.
So, Arnico -- I hope you are reading this too. I respect your neutral stand
on this matter, but just wanted to let you know that I am following parts
of your advice here.
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| _BP |
Posted
on 17-Nov-01 03:04 AM
This sounds pretty fair to me. I hope you guys can work out your differences. I must say Ashu, that even though you barrage your detractors with words, I admire the fact that you refrain from profanity and meticulously argue your points. And I must say it is courageous of you to offer to meet these guys in person. I guess it was wrong of me to ask about how the bad blood started. As Arnico stated in the other thread, it is most advisable to keep personal things away from this board unless volunteered by the writer. PErhaps you can tell me in private, because I certainly am interested!
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| San |
Posted
on 17-Nov-01 07:50 AM
Ashu (dai),
For the record, I would like to thank you for being an avid poster and promoting this site. BUT, that does not necessarily mean that I agree with everything you do or say. I do not subscribe to the philosophy - that someone bring on their private affairs into a discussion to get an edge in the discussion or to indulge in a smear campaign against an individual or individuals. There's a different form of communication medium that needs to be used in these private matters and that is called EMAIL. As soon as any discussions head on to personal mud slinging contests, the participants need to start using their personal emails to continue the mud slinging.
In my view, a public discussion board like this has more value when discussants use the public space to discuss valid issues, to let off a little steam from a monotonous day - all this WITHOUT bringing up negative personal issues - after which all discussions get stuck in a loop of never ending downwards spiral of one ego against another. I have seen many valid discussions end up in these spirals because, at some point in time, it would have been better if the participants had taken it further in their emails; but because the debates heat up in a public space, each person probably feels a need to have the last word. Thus the saga keeps getting restarted in order to get that 'last word' in - because the EGO only gets satisfied with that 'last word'.
This is just my view and I know that a lot of people will have views differing from mine and it's all fair and good to disagree. But it's another thing bringing up what I did last summer!
Just like I've mentioned to you, I would like to say for the record that - This site is what it is today IN PART because of anyone who has contributed to this site, posted a comment, an article, a classified or a literary piece or simply just visited the site. You have contributed more than lots of other people, and the thought provoking postings are indeed appreciated. The beauty of having a free discussion forum is the array of intelligent people it attracts. Everyone of these people have equal rights to participate in or start any discussions they want.
As the site admin, I've always been responsive to everyone's feedback and suggestions to improve this site, and I hope that the visitors understand that I am accessible to ANYONE who has comments or suggestions to make this site better.
Ok, sorry if I digress, I just got back from pulling an all nighter celebrating the last day of tihaar. Hope you had a nice Tihaar too. I miss Nepal.
Best Regards,
San
>But to take the words (both private and
>public) of the Web master San
>Pradhan (who was a year behind you at school,
> if you remember), this site
>is what it is today IN PART because of my
>being here.
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| ashu |
Posted
on 18-Nov-01 08:21 AM
Hi San,
Thanks for your views.
Yes, you or anyone else need NOT agree with everything I write/post here,
and that's quite expected and accepted in a free and open exchange like
this.
I also appreciate your kind words about me and others. You can count on my total, uncompromising support to make this site an interesting/provocative one -- without, of course:
a) using profanities.
b) equating others with canines, and, other such pathetic stuff.
Then again, the advantage of an OPEN forum is thet one's mistakes can easily
be corrected (for they are RIGHT OUT THERE for all to see) and that learning goes on and on.
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| nemesis |
Posted
on 18-Nov-01 09:15 AM
>.For the record, I would like to thank you for being an avid poster and >promoting>this site. BUT, that does not necessarily mean that I agree with >everything you do or say. I do not subscribe to the philosophy - that someone >bring on their private affairs into a discussion to get an edge in the discussion or >to indulge in a smear campaign against an individual or individuals. There's a >different form of communication medium that needs to be used in these private >matters and that is called EMAIL. As soon as any discussions head on to personal >mud slinging contests, the participants need to start using their personal emails >to continue the mud slinging.
Ashu,
Do you know what the Site Admn. is trying to say here? translation:
You are pathetic and your tactics to bring personal email to prove you are great is pathetic.
Site Admn. again says in this paragraphs and nemesis quotes:
>I have seen many valid discussions end up in these spirals because, at some >point in time, it would have been better if the participants had taken it further in >their emails; but because the debates heat up in a public space, each person >probably feels a need to have the last word. Thus the saga keeps getting >restarted in order to get that 'last word' in - because the EGO only gets satisfied >with that 'last word'.
Do you git this? Or Not? Look at the key words. Not everybody goes to post a 500 0words silly posting like you do. I know you are pretending you don't git it what he is saying, but that just shows your sorry state of mind. All the best in digging dirt of Sommervillians and "Namita kiran hyphen Thuene."
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| Trailokya Aryal |
Posted
on 18-Nov-01 01:47 PM
Dear San,
I too want to add something to this discussion. I also think that we shouldn't misuse, not only this, but any public forum. We should develop some respect to the public space. And, I totally agree with you. Many good discussions here end up getting ugly and personal. But, we can't blame these peoplew ho get personal, and post deregatory comments to each other. I think it has something to do with the way we are brough up. For example, if you want to protest, go break the bars around Ratna Park, if you don't buy any politican's views, throw stones at his/her house.. if you want to make your point, go burn the cabinets.. This is the nepali attitude. We don't respect anything that is public. But, when pade-lekheka people who frequent this site misuse this forum to satisgy their ego, then it gurts. Aaakhir, what these people learned in America/Europe/Japan? If this priviliged group of people who have seen the world, and who have probably dealt with a zillion people, indulge in such acts, then they have no rights whatsoever to comment on common folks in nepal who do tod-fod, or on maoists, because thesepadhe lekheka people are no different than those who go on to destroy public property or maoists go kill people. The only difference is, our pahde lekheka intellectuals do it with words, bichara sarbasadharan nepalis and maoists do it with their hands.
I have read many nepal-bachau, nepal ko bikas garne yojana etc in this forum, but, before making nepal, before changing the face of nepal, I think some of those who frequent this site should change themselves . It doesn't harm to admit one's mistakes, and it won't make you less of who you are if you admit your mistakes, it will make you a better human being.. and only then it suits you (generalization) to talk about Nepal ko bikash etc.
just my views.
Trailokya
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