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   Okay enough from the boys and their scho 21-Nov-01 anepalikt
     Do you know what a Japanese Advertisemen 21-Nov-01 GP
       GP ji: Since noone has responded (yet 21-Nov-01 anepalikt
         Anepali kt, i was thinking of the sam 21-Nov-01 NK
           Hey! Where iARE Sunakhari, Himani, amina 21-Nov-01 NK
             yes, where are you, women?! show your s 21-Nov-01 anepalikt
               and to think I always thought sunakhari 21-Nov-01 joie de vivre
                 Don't assume anything, my friend! 21-Nov-01 NK
                   oh and just in you're all wondering why 21-Nov-01 joie de vivre
                     friends are foes, foes turned out to be 21-Nov-01 NK
                       i hate girls i hate girls ewwwwwwwwww 21-Nov-01 le chef du nuit
                         MAHENDRA BHAWAN gals are the BEST!!!! 21-Nov-01 Fan
                           btw, dont send your sons to single-sex s 21-Nov-01 le chef du nuit
                             So right you are. You are a mysogynist 21-Nov-01 anepalikt
                               OK, that guy needs to be beaten. 21-Nov-01 _BP
                                 Well, I am here in Japan for last 10year 21-Nov-01 GP
                                   yup, i need to be beaten tied up and sp 22-Nov-01 le chef du nuit
                                     Sexual harassment can be defined differe 22-Nov-01 Alu
                                       Alu, I am not talking about asking a 22-Nov-01 GP
LADIES!! here I am! Thanksgiving trip 26-Nov-01 Sunakhari
   Hope you all had a great holiday weekend 26-Nov-01 amina
     Now where is everybody else??? 26-Nov-01 sunakhari
       we have moved on :) dear sunakhari. 26-Nov-01 NK
         yeah seems like I've lost touch! But I'm 26-Nov-01 sunakhari


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anepalikt Posted on 21-Nov-01 09:50 AM

Okay enough from the boys and their school loyalties! Let's hear from the girls!

Let's talk about the good old days in St.Mary's, Mahendra Bhavan, Kantiiswari, Banasthali, or whatever schools you attended in Nepal or India. Let's hear about growing up as a female in Nepal, teenage angst, crushes, pimply faced gawky geeky boys, nasty headmistresses, inspirational teachers, childhood dreams, and whatever else that jogs your memory when you think about girlhood in Nepal!
GP Posted on 21-Nov-01 10:08 AM

Do you know what a Japanese Advertisement says:

"Kao ga yabai yo, body dayo body?"
[facial beauty is weak and does not last long, but, good body/shape
always looks same] and She asks audience to buy a facial lotion, i.e.
to mean it works for all ages. Its time for Nepali girls to
go ahead, good body means good health too. As long as you
keep silence, you are less aware of your body literally, your health
too. Just have fun. Today everyone talks the same thing,
but, indirectly. Japanese call it as a BODY LANGUAGE.

Did I interfare you dear ladies. Keep up. hati hoina
dati hidnu paryo naya generation haru le. Rekha Sarma
ko tarasai bata bhagera hoina datera Aimai ko rights
ko defend garnu paryo ni.


GP
anepalikt Posted on 21-Nov-01 12:46 PM

GP ji:

Since noone has responded (yet), I would say no, you are not interfering. As for the ad... well, what can I say. It is an ad trying to sell yet another beauty product to women, appealing to all the insecurities bred into us. And the Japanese are not known to be terribly gender neutral either. I have Japanese and other freinds with Master workign in Japan, being treated like little tea and coffee girls! So much for the twentyfirst century!

And I thought it was:
hati hoina dati ladne, nepali ko bani huncha... and who is Rekha Aharma?

Anyhow, yes, this is about fun, but noone is joining in yet! Boo Hoo hoo........
NK Posted on 21-Nov-01 12:52 PM

Anepali kt,

i was thinking of the same thing. who in the wolrd is this Rekha? But growing up in Nepal. That brings me so many memories, I could write a book. Let me just touch upon the school. How it was for me in a co-ed school. In one word? Harassment. That is the 1st thing I think of. Really, I think I need to go back and revisit everything, think coolly about it and write. Maybe tomorrow.
NK Posted on 21-Nov-01 12:56 PM

Hey! Where iARE Sunakhari, Himani, amina and others?????!!!!!!!1
anepalikt Posted on 21-Nov-01 01:29 PM

yes, where are you, women?! show your solidarity....................... well actually maybe this is a good indication. without soem major gender stereotyping here, maybe women don't necessarily feel comfortable to talk about our experinces in a public forum such as this.

NK, interesting point about co-ed schools. I always wondered what it would have been like going to a co-ed school. I think I was spared having gone to a all-girls school, not that there were no pimply faced geeky gawky boys and men in leather jackets hovering outside the school trying to accost and traumatize the girls! :)

anyhow....
joie de vivre Posted on 21-Nov-01 01:43 PM

and to think I always thought sunakhari and anepalikt were the same person....
NK Posted on 21-Nov-01 01:44 PM

Don't assume anything, my friend!
joie de vivre Posted on 21-Nov-01 01:49 PM

oh and just in you're all wondering why I'm as quiet as a mouse in this issue... I didn't study in India or Nepal and other than having to fight off racist bullies I'm no complaints about my school years... BUT I'm ready to back up and support whatever you ladies say about being in a co-ed school in Nepal! There, how's that for solidarity? :)
NK Posted on 21-Nov-01 02:01 PM

friends are foes, foes turned out to be friends, sunakhari happens to be just sunakhari and anepalikt happens to be not-sunakhari. some time ago somebody thought I was writing as Sunakhari agreeing with myself! Holy cow!

I just remembere one incident that happened a long time ago in my school (co-ed). This was one of the few funny things that happened in that school. There was this girl bau russian, amma nepali. really well built, strong and yeah beautiful too (that is not important but thought i shuould add it). Anyway she challanged this guy to duke it out. He was a pest through and through. Boy, did she thrash him for good or what! After that he stopped being such a pest at least for a while.
le chef du nuit Posted on 21-Nov-01 04:56 PM

i hate girls
i hate girls
ewwwwwwwwww girls
they are nasty
they are silly
they are gross
take them away
lock them up
throw away the key
the key to the survival of MANkind is the removal of all women
women are the cause of strife
from the mahabharata to the trojan war (which, by the way, are the same stories told by different cultures, i think)
kill all the women
murder
mutilate
KILL
KILL
KILL
KILL
KILL

damn it, i think i need to get laid
Fan Posted on 21-Nov-01 04:58 PM

MAHENDRA BHAWAN gals are the BEST!!!!
le chef du nuit Posted on 21-Nov-01 05:00 PM

btw, dont send your sons to single-sex schools
they'll turn out to be violent mysogynists who think of women as sex objects
im a prime example
so, anyone, wanna Ć’uck?
anepalikt Posted on 21-Nov-01 06:44 PM

So right you are. You are a mysogynist and a misanthrope really.

People like you are gross disgusting and vile!

There is nothing funny about:

"kill all the women
murder
mutilate
KILL
KILL
KILL
KILL
KILL"

I really feel bad for the poor woman who raised you, your mother, or any female would is related to you in anyway!

Please take you vile sick mind elsewhere and DO NOT feel like you have to share your repressed sociopathic crap with the rest of us.
_BP Posted on 21-Nov-01 06:54 PM

OK, that guy needs to be beaten.
GP Posted on 21-Nov-01 08:20 PM

Well, I am here in Japan for last 10years. I know how
women are treated here in Universities, work places
and other govt. offices. Because I had worked in
all these places. Let me tell you something interesting:

1. "Otoko da na" (mard bhako le), "OTOKO RASHI" like male
(when some fe/male does some great things successfully)
" Otoko rashi kunai" (=kasto janana rahichha, chura pote lai diye hune)

2. Yes, women are treated as tea and coffiee girls. True.
Well, the clerks job (= nepali peon+mukhiya+khardar) are always
given to women. Quite sometime, when the clerk of my office room
used to absent from office, the lady Engineer who is also
researcher has to serve 10am and 3pm tea to all colleagues.
It was a another body language. No one says, but, expected.

3. Gift is usual in Japan, especially in companies.
Once someone from outside my office gave a big box of
excellent apples. The female colleague "clerk" was
distributing everyone two apples, ..... rest scenario
was disgusting, and sexual harassement is visible.
Once a fresh univ. graduate asked the clerk,
"yo question sodhna ta nahune ho, sexual harassement
ho khas ma, tara pani sodhou hai ... he asked .... "
The question was again frightening. Only a week back
before the organization had given a few hour class
and lecture on what is sexual harassement and
what is corruption.
4. Going through those classes what is Sexual harassment
and corruption, I was amazed to find Nepal's work places,
schools, colleges, student unions all fall under the
source of sexual harassement. A very simple example of sexual
harassement is to ask your female colleague "Lets go for Lunch"
during Lunch time. You can think it as bottom line. Forget about
telling "you look so beautiful", blah blah ... at work places.
Is not this time a right time to start having discussions on
sexual harassment and abuse at work places. It can not start
from male, should start from female, you have to be bold.
I really feel sorry, knowing the definition of sexual harassment
and corruption, and knowingly or unknowingly we [including me] male have
committed such mistakes and it can be brought to right track only
through education and discussion to debates.

5. FYI, in Japan, places like in Tokyo, girls are given full power to identify
a guy suspected to have abused her in trains, called "Chi-...in japanese" .
The girls can call any subway or railway station employees and tell,
"this guy abused me". She don't need any proof or witness. Then, guys either go
to court or pay 50,000yen immediately and escape the scene. But,
if you (male) resist and deny that you did not do any abuse or touched
her sacred parts, you will be staying in Jail for 2 - 3 years before you
prove your self clean. Well, some high school girls have misused it, and they
just asked ransom and if denied went to station master and haldinchan ujoor.

One italian guy was jailed for 3 years who denied to pay 50,000yen
(quivalent to 500US dollar). Finally, released as clean. What will happen
in Nepal if we have such laws? First to be jailed will be police. Tthis time
when I went to Nepal and then to TIA to see off someone, I saw
police talking to a woman and group of his friends enjoying the words
used by his friend. I took that Police's photo. The police asked
me "kina khichhya tyo picture". In a country of Bhadragole, its
difficult to decide where to start?

6. Rekha Sharma : She is the head of Maoist affiliated women organization
who torched the Alcohol factory, and asked to ban all fashion shows
and beauty contests, Because of her call, this year, the beauty contest
was cancelled.
le chef du nuit Posted on 22-Nov-01 12:05 AM

yup, i need to be beaten
tied up and spanked
handcuff me and whip me.. mmmmmm
orgasmic, really
Alu Posted on 22-Nov-01 08:36 AM

Sexual harassment can be defined differently in various countries. GP, said that asking a girl out for lunch is sexual harassment... are you pretty sure about that??? Did you hear everything properly. Its not that I am doubting you, but I think that its not sexual harassment unless the female/male says "NO" and the victim faces the same thing repeatedly. But the case about girls accusing guys is amazing... Hope you dont get in trouble GP..... Stay outta girls Man!!
Later,
Alu
GP Posted on 22-Nov-01 09:00 AM

Alu,

I am not talking about asking a girl outside your office,
or work place, but, within your office room, if you
ask a girl who is junior to your rank, and ask her
alone to go for Lunch, you can surely be in trouble.
Its because she is junior in rank,

1. she is afraid to deny you.
2. You are requesting only her to join you in your lunch khane program.

BTW, have you ever gotten any manual from your employer
about sexual harassment? Did you ever join any counseling or
classes in sexual harassement? Then, you can realize what is
Sexual Harassement. The rule of sexual harassement is more
strict in government offices than in public companies, because
the govt. officers have been enjoying salary from TAX paid
by money and also they have free access to mass media.

You will really get surprised with the manual and classes on
sexual harassement. Timro naam kin Alu bhanera timro
sangai kaam garne keti naam bhako khanda ma sodhyou
bhanni Guru, you may find next day in court room? That is
extreme case.

Lessons in sexual harassements are like teaching Malasian
or singaporean law to sons of Nepali smugglers. Next day
you finish the classes, the sons will deny joining their fathers
business. But, if you teach loopholes in the law, too, to these sons, then,
they might try carrying hashis to America, but, still not to Singapore.
Some will find ways "loopholes" to harass women, despite of strict
laws/rules. But, our aim is to minimize using existing law, technology
and knowhow.

GP
Sunakhari Posted on 26-Nov-01 10:02 AM

LADIES!!
here I am!
Thanksgiving trip was long and fruitful (at times) :)
I went to school in India and did I have some awful teachers who thought Nepali gals sucked?? PLENTY!!
BUT yes, friends turned out to be foes and foes friends. Judas I had one :(.
Have to catch up on my work but just wanted to let all the smart ladies (ahem!) who frequent this site that I'm still alive and kicking - thank you.
AND I am me! :)
amina Posted on 26-Nov-01 10:31 AM

Hope you all had a great holiday weekend.
Mine was GREAT :-)
Growing up as a female in Nepal..hmm
I went to a co-ed school in Nepal. Girls were always the minority in class in number. When I was younger ( grade 3-4) some of the boys were extremely patronizing..I used to get beaten up by a group of guys in our class after school..that's probably the worst experience I have of my school days. Well actually that wasn't so bad. I think getting teased and harrased as we walked along the corriders was worse...but funny enough, some of those guys became buddies when we were in class 9 and 10 and I am still very good friends with some of them. And now we laugh about it...I never had problems with girls though..
I think I am glad I went to a co-ed school..
sunakhari Posted on 26-Nov-01 03:09 PM

Now where is everybody else???
NK Posted on 26-Nov-01 03:11 PM

we have moved on :) dear sunakhari.
sunakhari Posted on 26-Nov-01 03:35 PM

yeah seems like I've lost touch! But I'm glad to know its "moved on" as opposed to "moved out" (of GBNC).
PHEW
:)