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| ashu |
Posted
on 28-Nov-01 08:16 AM
Sunakhari wrote:
Now Ashu, a question!
I am wondering if you, like most people in Nepal, look up to those who are revered by others as well or do you place the person in scrutiny BEFORE you back the person. I am merely inquisitive.
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Hi Sunakhari,
I place the person in scrutiny before I back that person -- no matter how
famous or how unknown. The point is to play a fair game.
For example, if I call someone a traitor in public on the basis of something I read, and, if it turns out that what I had read was turns out to be not true, then I have no problem making a public apology to the party concerned. This is what GP-ji did, and I respect him all the more for that. My ego does not get tied up to hiding my mistakes. To me, making such an apology is an example of playing a fair, right game.
Sure, disagreement alone is NEVER a reason for apology, and I agree with that.
But to slander somebody by calling that person a traitor and so on on the basis
of what turns out to be FALSE, and then refuse to RETRACT one's statements, let alone apologize to the party concerned. . . well, to me, that's not playing a fair, right game.
Another example: If someone disagrees with my views, and starts calling me a dog and so on, and I do NOT respond by calling the other person "bitch" and so on, well, that too is playing a fair game on my part. :-) I do not have to use adjectives to make points in public. Nouns and verbs strung together with logic and reason are enough to make convincing points, and avoiding name-calling and adjective-hurling is also playing a fair right game.
That said, I am well aware that misunderstandings, errors of judgment or other such stuff happen among people in public, and when those things happen, it's
best to try to seek explanations FIRST, and base further decisions on those explanations.
I did not learn the above things from birth, but have concluded that those are the right approaches after making my own share of mistakes, trials and errors and so on. . . And that's life: a work in progress.
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Sunakhari wrote:
Nevertheless, I think I should clarify before I get branded as an anti-kunda dixit person that I find his articles EXTREMELY refreshing after all the patronizing ones that appear left and right.
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Yes. He is an excellent writer with a wry sense of humor.
I thought his humor piece last week "Bijuli ko tar, tar, tar" was a greatly funny piece.
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 28-Nov-01 11:30 AM
>Sure, disagreement alone is NEVER a reason for apology, and I agree with that.
>But to slander somebody by calling that person a traitor and so on on the basis
>of what turns out to be FALSE, and then refuse to RETRACT one's statements,
>let alone apologize to the party concerned. . . well, to me, that's not playing a
>fair, right game.
Ashu,
Now as I see you whining everywhere with your 'apology' thing, I am wondering
about the limit you can go to please some person in KTM.
You are so disturbed, so frightened, and so much excited in callow emotion, it is
almost analogical to the emotion of last fighters of Taliban in Kunduz and Kandahar.
Let me repeat again, GBNC is not a celebrity fan club. We can speak our mind here.
We are not here to ask people
1. "Dear Kunda ji, I am a great fan of your, and I was hurt when I read your
comment in TOI. Could you please explain that to me. I know you didn't say that."
type of questions.
2. Then, when Kunda sends his denial, send apology to Kunda for asking that
question.
If that is what your world of debate in Kathmandu, fine. You can live with that and
brag to be broadening your gamut of knowledge. I feel dizzy in such environment
where chamchagiri and chaplusi is called the intellectual practice.
If you think GBNC is celebrity fan club, and we will be asking only nice questions like
"why you are so popular?" "Why girls like you so much?" "Why are your teeth so
shiny and why are you so beautiful?" to some celebrity descending here, forget
that. GBNC is not here to please some so called intellectuals.
I liked Dixits, and you on some occasions. But this time, forget about such praise.
And I am surprised to see you in every thread, everywhere asking for apology to
Kunda Dixit or advocating for it. I hate to see people being more "pro-X" than "X"
himself.
I hope my views are clear for you. If not, please read it again, and quote properly
where I said what you thought I said, before trying to flay me and pontificate
about your high moral ground!
Have a good day.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 28-Nov-01 11:40 AM
And one more thing:
If people like a, b or c can't come here and reply sane questions, you better not
invite them. At least, you need to tell them what type of questions they can
expect here. This is not a highschool forum, my friend. This is place where people
wants to practice their wisdom, not to be preached endlessly.
This is definitely not a celebrity fan club, let me repeat it again. We have seen
enough of people like Milan Karki who came here, preached us about human right,
and when asked some questions, left the site , and tried to come again with vile
purpose. We also read so called 'computer scientist' who wrote Nepal reads
multiprogramming computer now, and when asked about that, never replied. I
have seen enough of charlatans of Nepal in Nepal. We ain't need no more of them.
You know this, I know this.
next time, Ashu, please try to write all comments about me in one thread. So that
I can reply all of them in one place,and not bother others. Also, here are some
suggestions for you:
1. Please don't leave a thread when people are discussing in that thread. Where
should I look for your comments and reply them? If you want to make comments,
and don't want people to look at that, or to make reaction, that is fine. Don't
pretend you want debate. But if you think you want debate, you want the
replies for your comments, try to stick to one thread. That makes a lot of sense
to me, and to a lot of other readers.
2. Don't give your old , stale reply to my suggestion. Your typical reply is: " You
like my comments, fine. You don't like my comments, you can always ignore it."
No, you can't avoid every comment as that. I am, as you always know,
vehemently opposed to garbages spewed in public places.
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| Sunakhari |
Posted
on 28-Nov-01 11:47 AM
Ashu
thanks for your rather concocted answer!!
I think you did try to stick to my question in the first line. About the rest of the answer - all I will say is (AGAIN ---GROAN!!!!!!!!):
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