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| Huri |
Posted
on 29-Nov-01 05:55 PM
Till today, who do you think has been the best leader in Nepal's history?
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| Tampa |
Posted
on 29-Nov-01 05:55 PM
Definitely Mahendra....
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| Janak |
Posted
on 29-Nov-01 05:56 PM
Prithivi Naryan Shah
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| Daman |
Posted
on 29-Nov-01 05:57 PM
Well, there are quite a few..
1) Prithivi Naryan Shah
2) Mahendra
3) Bishweshor Prasad Koirala
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| concerned |
Posted
on 29-Nov-01 06:14 PM
GYANENDRA
and
shree paanch maharaja dhiraj PARAS bir bikram shah dev...right in a few years..He will lead us like never before...
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| Boston |
Posted
on 29-Nov-01 06:16 PM
BP Koirala
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| MAD DOG |
Posted
on 29-Nov-01 06:26 PM
SHIVA
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| Boston Brhamin |
Posted
on 29-Nov-01 06:37 PM
Former Secretary of Nep-USA Friendship Ass a Laurie Mckinna pagal told me that Baje Ashu Tiwari is the graet dear leader of Nepal and of STX.
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| Ustai ustai |
Posted
on 29-Nov-01 07:24 PM
Who else but Kathmandu's beloved duo Nani Maiya Dahal and Golche Sarki. Others in this category are: Marichman Singh, Jogmehar Shrestha, Nagendra Prasad Rijal, Surya Bahadur Thapa, Lokendra Bahadur Chand, Prakash Chandra Lohani, Bhek Bahadur Thapa, Biswabandhu Thapa, Surya Prasad Upadhyaya, Sailendra Kumar Upadhyaya and many others who are good leaders because they have lead their families to a good and prosperious life.
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| Trailokya Aryal |
Posted
on 29-Nov-01 11:14 PM
Greetings,
Mahendra, mahendra and KING MAHENDRA.. and Marich Man Singh Shretha--
the best leaders we had so far.
Here's the list of worst leaders:
1. BP Koirala (what is samajbaad? BP was a confused fellow, who sometimes appeared nationalist, but, most of the time he appeared nothing but Neharu's puppet)
2. Krishna Prashad Bhattari (This Geeta reading, scotch drinking, paaan chewing neta is the one who crossed all the limits of [in]decency. "bhaarat hamara dushra ghar hai" to "we should have the same currency in India and Nepal" to "India's nuclear test is GOOD for Nepal" .. are just a few of his [in]famous quotes. Furtehrmore, this neta who has the vast knowledge of geeta, is no less than Bhagwaan Krishna. If Krishna Bhagwaan could make love with 16,000 Gopinis, then he too can have a Gopini (anita kapali, hoina ta?). Ajhai pugena.. here's what made me hate him more (and I am sure this is the case with many Nepalis who saw him on TV saturday): There was a meeting of congress CWC to discuss on the Maoists attacks of the night before. All appeared serious because 40 lives had been lost, kids had lost their fathers, didi-bahinis had lost their husbands, aama-ba had lost their choras... and our Neta Shri Krishna Prasad Bhattarai was laughing so hard.. His close up smile at that moment was more excruciating than assuring. The next day Dr. Sundar Mani Dixit sent a letter to the editor of Kantipur about this and I was very impressed by that letter. Its a must read letter..
3.And all these kangressis and commies netas who see threat to "shishu" parajatanta in every thing. 205 samshads..I think we should come up with SOSHAK instead of samshads.
Just my vies, feel FREEEEEEEEEE ekdamai FREEE to disagree.
Trailokya
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| Khushi |
Posted
on 29-Nov-01 11:29 PM
BP was no leader- he was a better literatuer. If he would have been a better leader 17 saal could have never happened.
How can a good leader let go of a government that had mandate by the people -over 2/3 of the votes! He couldn't even last a year? You call that a good leadership?
I think BP was very good at explaining and obeserving things- that's it. He could not lead period.
Having said that- who are the best leader/leaders of Nepal.
Mahendra will come to mind.
Madan Bhandari was climbing the ladder of leadership, but unfortunately we could not see his skills a little longer.
Prithvi Narayan Shah was obviously a good leader.
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| Janak |
Posted
on 30-Nov-01 12:20 AM
It is said that Prithivi Naryan Shah had once told " Do not let foreigners enter our country. They'll ruin it." Well, a part of that had already happened dut to numerous Dhotis.
He also united Nepal when he say the invasion of India by British.
He had visoin, courage, skills, almost everything a good leader needs.
Then came Mahendra who visited every district of Nepal to meet his people. He made Nepal knowm to the rest of the world. He introduced Nepali as an official language.... and many more things..
So definitely.... Prithivi Naryan and Mahendra were the greatest leader of Nepalese history.
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| HOHOHO |
Posted
on 30-Nov-01 12:21 AM
JANG BAHADUR RANA
Anyone disagree?
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| Hmmm |
Posted
on 30-Nov-01 12:36 AM
Well.. I think Mahendra is in a way Clever and Successful leader. But that doesn't make him the best leader. For me, the best leader is someone who could lead the country in his time and give a direction to the future of the country and he failed in later. Were he the best leader, there wouldn't be an uprise against his Panchayat System just after 7-8 years of his death.
Just my thoughts...
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| Sagun |
Posted
on 30-Nov-01 12:55 AM
BP Koirala..........there is no question about that. I think everyone agree about that.
Sagun
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| hehehe |
Posted
on 30-Nov-01 12:59 AM
How about Bin Laden ruling Nepal..? He will definitely show what a good leadership is ;)
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| ashu |
Posted
on 30-Nov-01 01:20 AM
Hi all,
Are we talking about our GBNC.org ko BP or Nepali Congress ko BP? :-)
The latter was -- through his works of fiction -- a damn good story-teller.
Period.
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| gangane |
Posted
on 30-Nov-01 01:30 AM
prachanda and baburam
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| _BP |
Posted
on 30-Nov-01 01:38 AM
I would have to say Brahmachari Biswojit Thapa,
and Sashi Rai.
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| GP |
Posted
on 30-Nov-01 02:20 AM
I will rather copy from most of the Madan Krishana's
Nepali Version of Millionnaire 's Program participants:
"La jja , uhako bichar ma ahile samma great leader nai
janme ko chhaina re".
...
If I have to select from the peoples within the rule
of Shah dynasty period, I will select following guys
with scores:
1. Prithivi Narayan Shah as 100units.
2. Bahadur Shah as 70units
3. Amar Singh Thapa 75units.
4. Balbhadra Kunwar 85units.
5. Junga Bahadur Rana 65 units.
6. Tribhuvan 80units.
7. Mahendra 90units.
8. Birendra 85units
9. Rajendra Laxmi 60units..
10. Aisworya (she resisted Debyani ....) 65units.
11. BP Koirala 90units.
12. Madhav Kumar Nepal 70units
(Before Bhim Rawal bachau)
13. Sher Bahadur 65units
14. Ram Chandra Poudel 50units
15. Babu Ram Bhattarai (before Maoist extortion and looting since
the ceasefire) 70units,
after cesefire 40units.
16. Prachanda (before ceasefire 75)
after ceasefire 80units (
after ceasefire break, 30units.
17. Bal Bahadur Rai 65units.
18. Ganesh Man when denied to be PM : 80units
19. KPB during 2046: 80units, after last time PM 40units
20. GPK ,, 60units
after lasttime PM Lauda scandal 40units
21. Shailaja Acharya 50units
22. BamDev before CPN break, 50units
after break 20units.
23. PRT -10units
24. Govinda Raj Joshi/Gachhedar -100units (check negative sign)
....
...
next generation leaders:
1010 GP +10units (forecast: if practice eng.)
1011 Ashu +25units (,,)
1012 Biswo +20units (,, because Biswo ji will remain leader
among professional people, may not join politics)
1012 Kunda Dixit +20units
1013 NK +15 units
1014 ANepaliKT +??? (not sure, because she is known publicly
who she is in real world) Lets hope 2 digits.
1015 TA (T. Aryal) + 15units.
1016 BP + ??? don't know yet
1017 .....
Just for fun. Don't take those numbers very seriously.
GP
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| _BP |
Posted
on 30-Nov-01 03:29 AM
GP:
That last list is quite funny. I do appreciate you putting a '+' sign next to my name though, even though we don't know how many units. You forgot Arnico though...I think he deserves the largest number.
Here are some quotes on leadership:
What is a committee? A group of the unwilling, picked from the unfit,
to do the unnecessary. -- Richard Harkness, The New York Times, 1960
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn
from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent
disinclination to do so. -- Douglas Adams
When the age of the Vikings came to a close, they must have sensed
it. Probably, they gathered together one evening, slapped each other on
the back and said, "Hey, good job."
Here maybe you can aupplant "Vikings" with "Taliban."
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| Hmm |
Posted
on 30-Nov-01 09:46 AM
BP Koirala for his vision and his bold thinking.
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| amina |
Posted
on 30-Nov-01 09:53 AM
This is something I was just thinking about the other day....leaders in Nepal. And going through the names above, sad to see there are very few women.
Aishwarya Shah, Rajendra Laxmi, Nani Maiya Dahal and Sailaja Acharya..were the ones that came up. But are these women truely leaders ??
In my opinion, a true leader is one that is visionary, able to "think out of the box" so to speak for a positive change and is also able to inspire others to share that vision. I think BP was successful in that aspect and there were others too..King Mahendra ofcourse.
I am still raking through my head to find women leaders...there may not be many that have "lead" in a large scale. But I am sure there are quite a few who are great leaders in their own cause making significant impacts in the Nepalese Society..Oh yes, Anuradha Koirala of Maiti Nepal.
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| Siwalik |
Posted
on 30-Nov-01 10:10 AM
I posted this topic in a different forum a year back. In my opinion, there have been great leaders in Nepal in the past century, especially in recent memory. A nation with a great leader would not be languishing in a state Nepal is in today. My vote would go to Bhimsen Thapa, and wish there were more like him now. These days, Nepal has only-- in MAHA's term-- "parasites".
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| GP |
Posted
on 30-Nov-01 06:27 PM
Amina,
I might have missed some in my list, and I do agree there
are many women leaders who are still not recognized or
still not known in public. Well, Anuradha of Maiti Nepal
can be taken one example. What she is doing is great
job. Why not you give us her location in those yards
that I illustrated. You don't have to follow my yard
stick, but, I do believe that telling so and so person
as great leader will make us difficult whose contribution
is of what level. I had given Prithvi Narayan Shah as
100units, starting point (well some leaders in others
perspective might get even more than 100, i.e. greater
than PN shah), so that we realize and many of us who
might not have noticed the leader's contribution, might
again revisit his/her contribution and change the
position in the yard. Lets make our own (your own
and my own) guidelines and present. When it comes
to a list of more than one we need to grade their
contribution to some landmark, and PN Shah in
Shah dynasty is remarkably understandable to all
of us, but, it does not mean PN Shah is great leader
to all of us.
If you have to give PN Shah as 100, how much would
you give to Anuradha of Maiti Nepal, based on her
contributoin so far?
GP
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| point |
Posted
on 30-Nov-01 06:55 PM
Commedians such as Gopal Raj Mainali would make a great leader. Or even Hari Bansa as the President and Madan Krishna as the PM could be cool.
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| ? |
Posted
on 30-Nov-01 07:39 PM
I am not sure if I will accept PN Shah as a great leader. May be because what I was taught about Nepali History is incomplete. I know he was a great warrior and clever too. (or a "Dhokebaaj"??:) Remember how he married to the daughter of a Kirtipure(or Nuwakote??.. sorry...) king and later fought against his "sasurali"). OK thats not my point. My point is we (or at least I) don't know if he fought for the sake of people or for his own ambitions to become more powerful. In either case, that has resulted in a stronger Nepal..I also think his "dibyopadesh"- "Ghus khanya ra Ghus dinya dubai desh ka satru hun"- is still relevant.
The reason why we do not have a good leader yet is probably because we do not have a long history of democracy. Most of the time, we were ruled by the Shree 5 and Shree 3 and they were confined to the welfare of their own families.
So..I will reserve my vote for the future leader of Nepal..May be someone from this site ...We have already seen leadership qualities on some of us:->
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| GP |
Posted
on 30-Nov-01 08:01 PM
Fren,
Whatever was the motive of PN Shah, and as someone
here wrote already pointing this fact, and the result of
his war, and unification is really worth to us. We have
been enjoying today much better than, if would not
have done it. Someone else would have done can be your
next arguments, who ever has done, if the result is
same, it does not matter for us whether is PN Shah
or NP Hahs .. I won't run behind names.
Lets enjoy on what we have, not on plain dreams
Its my understanding. You might have different one.
GP
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