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| Trailokya Aryal |
Posted
on 02-Dec-00 09:59 PM
Namaste,
I am not following Mr. Rajencdra's footsteps, but this piece of news on yesterday's South China Morning Post really caught my eyes.
South China Morning Post is the most widely read HK newspaper and has the reputation of being BOLD at times and is also noted for its controversial news pieces on CCP, Beijing and China's leaders.
Trailokya Aryal
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House of misfortune haunts police chiefs
DHRUBA ADHIKARY in Kathmandu
The country's new police chief, Pradeep Shumsher, is apparently having second thoughts about moving into the official residence, a house with an inauspicious past.
Two people died during construction of the house 20 years ago, the Vimarsha newspaper reported. One of them was buried alive.
Since then, misfortune has followed the residence's occupants. No chief of police in Nepal has completed his four years in office without controversy.
Mr Rana's immediate predecessor, Achyut Krishna Kharel, was forced into early retirement five months before the end of his term. His departure followed a daring attack by Maoist rebels on the Dolpa District Police Station in September, when 14 policemen were killed.
The officer who held the post before Mr Kharel stayed for only eight months.
Chiefs who preceded him received either prison terms on corruption charges or were forced into early retirement. One of them died after receiving the sudden news of his removal from office.
Mr Rana's friends and family have, however, advised him to move in slowly so that Hindu priests have time to perform purification rituals in and around the house.
Regardless of whether Mr Rana takes up the official residence, controversy has already arrived on his doorstep. The Public Accounts Committee is investigating allegations that the police force concluded an illegal commercial deal with the Indian Oil Corporation.
Under the deal, the oil company was made the sole supplier of lubricants for all police vehicles for 15 years and was permitted to operate a petrol pump at police headquarters.
Mr Rana has denied reports that the police force was directly involved in the shady deal. A parliamentary committee is investigating the matter.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 02-Dec-00 11:13 PM
>South China Morning Post is the most widely
>read HK newspaper and has the reputation of
>being BOLD at times and is also noted for
>its controversial news pieces on CCP,
>Beijing and China's leaders.
>
I am surprised that you find this SCMP so pro-democracy.
Robert Kuok ,the owner of SCMP, was never a democrat.He was just
interested in making money.Just how he can go against CCP can be
guessed by these facts: he owns 87.5% of rights of Coke production
in Mainland China.Just after handover,Kuok hired Feng Xiliang,
former China Daily Editor, as editorial consultant.As you can
guess,it is not Jonathan Fenby,formerly ok editor, who runs show
now, Feng's impression is everywhere in your BOLD paper.Now if
you remember that Apple's former columnist and owner Jimmy Lai
was forced to sell his Giordano stocks after his critical
piece on Li Peng appeared in his Apple magazine ,after which
Giordano stores were all close in China and allowed only after
Jimmy sold them,you can predict how far Kuok can go criticizing
CCP.
Actually,Kuok also has interests in Burmese jungles and is
criticized by environmentalists.Some even accuse him of having
ties with Burmese Drug lords(I actually don't believe this last
one,however)...
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| rajendra |
Posted
on 03-Dec-00 12:06 AM
I agree that Robert Kuok was never a democrat in the true sense. However, despite his ownership, SCMP remains to be fairly autonomously run. And SCMP remains to be the most widely read in HK because it is perceived to be the most democratic and bold.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 03-Dec-00 12:31 AM
>I agree that Robert Kuok was never a
>democrat in the true sense. However, despite
>his ownership, SCMP remains to be fairly
>autonomously run.
Rajendra,with all respect to your view, I want to differ from you
here.With Feng Xiliang as consultant, and with self-imposed
sensorship widespread in SCMP building,SCMP publishes only
sanitized articles,sanitized with the shrewd mind of Fenby and
other economically savvy editors.
Just imagine, for an unscrupulous owner like Kuok,who went to Myanmar
with Mitsubishi(dubiously honored as the world's first corporate
destructor of jungles) to cut down trees and who owns,as I
mentioned above,Coca Cola's lopsided majority of stocks(Coke
by 1999 had invested more the 500 million dollars in mainland),
what will be more important:the newspaper or ingratiation of
Chinese bosses?
>And SCMP remains to be the
>most widely read in HK because it is
>perceived to be the most democratic and bold.
SCMP
Most widely read:I agree.But,before Kantipur,there was one survey
I read,which showed Gorkhapatra had daily publication of 47000,and
was the most widely distributed(read or not,I don't know) paper in
Nepal.This distinction can come from wide variety of sources.
Most democratic and bold: I beg to differ.What about Apple? What
about Apple daily? What about Wen WeiPo? What about Oriental
daily?
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| Trailokya Aryal |
Posted
on 03-Dec-00 01:49 AM
>
>I am surprised that you find this SCMP so
>pro-democracy.
Namaste Biswoji,
I am not saying that SCMP is pro-democracy. But it has, at times, published reports on corruption and anti-CCP views. And is very different than the People's Daily
>Robert Kuok ,the owner of SCMP, was never a
>democrat.He was just.........
>
>Actually,Kuok also has interests in Burmese
>jungles and is
>criticized by environmentalists.Some even
>accuse him of having
>ties with Burmese Drug lords(I actually don'
>t believe this last
>one,however)...
This piece of information is new to me.
Do you subsribe to the e-edition of SCMP? I think its a good newspaper to read. Plus, now they have a column on Joseph Baker's book, The CHinese -They publish excerpts of this book once every week (I forgot which day though).
Trailokya
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| Trailokya Aryal |
Posted
on 03-Dec-00 02:05 AM
>
>Do you subsribe ..... on Joseph Baker's
>book, The CHinese -They publish excerpts of
>this book once every week (I forgot which
>day though).
>
>Trailokya
Please accept my sincere apologies, it should have been Jasper Becker's, who is also the SCMP beijing bureau reporter.
Trailokya
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 03-Dec-00 02:09 AM
Trailokyaji:
>I am not saying that SCMP is pro-democracy.
>But it has, at times, published reports on
>corruption and anti-CCP views. And is very
>different than the People's Daily
zenmeshuo ne, SCMP publishing (seemingly)anti-CCP views is more
or less comparable to Kantipur publishing Maoist leaders'articles.
Something innocuous, a kind of front for omnipresence and
impartiality,I mean Trailokyaji,you know it very well about
these newspapermen,that doesn't necessarily represents the crux
of their view,they just publish them.
And anti-corruption articles are now 'rampant' even in mainland.It
is already an official theme in mainland.You know, Zhu and Jiang
having already reached the paramount position,are damn serious
about corruption and are more likely to be bloodthirsty in their
quest.They have actually unleashed their anti-corruption body to
the extent that halters are already set to the necks of more than
few governors and high leve official.So,it is not so courageous
and bold news.
>
>>Robert Kuok ,the owner of SCMP, was never a
>
>democrat.He was just.........
>>
>>Actually,Kuok also has interests in Burmese
>
>jungles and is
>>criticized by environmentalists.Some even
>>accuse him of having
>>ties with Burmese Drug lords(I actually don'
>
>t believe this last
>>one,however)...
>
>This piece of information is new to me.
You didn't believe it or what?Come on,this is commonplace
knowledge among democratic activists in Hongkong.
Hongkong tycoons evince one good dovetail of communists and
capitalists: the communists provide and discipline multitude of
workers for producing merchandise and the tycoons distribute
and sell them,raking in that glittering wealth everybody see
in Hongkong.(Btw,both are benefitting..)
>
>Do you subsribe to the e-edition of SCMP? I
>think its a good newspaper to read. Plus,
>now they have a column on Joseph Baker's
>book, The CHinese -They publish excerpts of
>this book once every week (I forgot which
>day though).
>
I get technology news only from them.But I sometimes go to their
website just to know about what Martin Lee is doing these days.
I get so many junk mails that I don't dare to subscribe anymore
e-edition.I presume you do.
The reasons I wanted to know about tech-news vary,but mainly wanted
to know what Richard Li and his company are doing.(Never got money
to buy stock there.)I will try to read Baker's book.Seems you
really enjoy that, huh?
Good night,buddy.
(btw,I hope you are disabused about that Kuok.Don't think that
SCMP represents democratic movement.Every hardcore democrats there
actually bays for his blood..)
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| Trailokya Aryal |
Posted
on 03-Dec-00 02:00 PM
>
>zenmeshuo ne, SCMP publishing (seemingly)
>anti-CCP views is more
>or less ....just publish them.
Namaste Biswoji,
Zhen me shuo ne :-) Zhen de wo bu zhi dao Rubert Kuok ye ta de guan xi ye biede biede dongxi le-- wo zhi zhi dao South China Morning Post shi yi ge you ming de bao zi!
(Really,. I didn't know about Robert Kuok and his businesses. All I know is South CHina Morning Post is a famous HK newspaper).
Having said that, I am thankful to you for the info on robert kuok.
>
>And anti-corruption articles are now '
>rampant' even ....
I agree! BUt at times, when the People's Daily was hesistant to publish those news, SCMP would publish those.
>>This piece of information is new to me.
>
>You didn't believe it or what?Come on,this
>is commonplace
>knowledge among democratic activists in
>Hongkong.
No, I believe. I really didn't about all this.
>I get technology news only from them.But I
>sometimes go to their
>website just to know about what Martin Lee
>is doing these days.
>I get so many junk mails that I don't dare
>to subscribe anymore
>e-edition.I presume you do.
HAHAHAHA I agree. Good things, bad things follow each other. And, I really enjoy reading Jesper Becker's excerpts. Its a god book, if possible read it at your break. Its a good book, talks about the changes and becker starts each chapters with his anecdots etc which gives the personal flavor and ...... (just woke up so can't think of good words, duibuqi pengyou!)
Zai Jian,
Trailokya
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 03-Dec-00 03:37 PM
>> I really enjoy
>reading Jesper Becker's excerpts. Its a god
>book, if possible read it at your break.
I think I enjoyed Mike Chinoy's(I think you know this guy of
CNN,who was there in TianAnMen massacre)book on China.As long as
they try to write without peppering their own ideology,or rabid
anticommunism,I think it is good to read.But I don't want to read
those books which are nothing but spewing of personal views and
subjectivity.Hopefully,Becker writes with impartiality.But read in
this break?very much unlikely Trailokyaji,gotta finish my Thesis.
Thanks for recommending the book.And please share any such new
book whenever you know about them.Being technical line person,
time constraint has been prominently featured in my daily routine
these days.No more digression,only course work,course work &
course work..Ironically,while in China,in my undergrad,I really
knew immediately about almost every new books on China,whether
written by foreigner or by dissidents..I am sure you will be
surprised to hear this but it is true.
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