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| dariwal |
Posted
on 06-Dec-01 11:10 PM
Emergency could be averted politically, says Nepal
KOL Report
KATHMANDU, Dec 6 - The General Secretary of the main opposition CPN-UML, Madhav Kumar Nepal, Wednesday said that the present state of emergency in the country could be averted through political negotiations. He also called upon the army to carry out its duties in a righteous manner.
The CPN-UML chief was speaking to journalists at his party’s Balkhu headquarters in the capital. Nepal also said that if the army does not go about its mission in a proper way, his party would have to think about employing “negative means”.
Nepal said that the mobilisation of the army could spell danger to the democratic process. He also said that if the army action fails, there is a possibility of foreign forces entering Nepali soil. “But we are working consciously to find a way out of both these possibilities,” said the former deputy prime minister.
Nepal also said that this state of emergency is nothing new for the country, as it had been in such a state much before the official declaration of emergency. (yo)
>>Nepal also said that if the army does not go about its mission in a proper way, his party would have to think about employing “negative means”.
What does he mean? Is he threatning the army instead of giving a full support. I think this is just to drag attention of peoples and to show the teeth as an opposition. I think he also said something about keeping an eye on the moves of army and gov.
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| thito |
Posted
on 07-Dec-01 12:09 AM
dariwal
If u have closely watched the UML CPN movement in the post democracy era, you will see a tactical trend in its ploy.
1. Birodh ko lagi birodh
An opposition party always needs some stuff for their comrades, the easiest one is to protest cynically of every government move. UML has never done any thing so far that can prove that they are more patriotic than NC, but just for the sake of birodh, if they dont find out any flaw in the government's move, they bring these two words- democracy and nationality khatara ma chha.
2.For UML party cadre first, then army, then people and then police
I was several times shocked when I saw the remarks of makune during Pre barta maobadi attacks. Every time they indirectly deplored the action but very unabiguously tried to justify the death of innocent police and civillians. At that time maobadi were near to uml because both of them belonged to the same fraternity- communist. There was no remorse on the death of those unfortunate policemen who were fighting there protecting a democratic government and makune et al . There was no remorse on the death of an innocent farmer simlpybecause he was a supporter of Nepali congress or RPP. So for a communist party death of a civillian makes no difference unless he is a party worker putting on same tag. A glimpse to a newspaper like Dristi would tell you how indiffernt they were to the death of all other nepali except uml. You will see out cry for the death of a dozens of uml cadres but hardly find any words of condolence for those innocent police and civillian. I dont have any words to condemn these political tycoons, every wretched word i know is less for them. During counter isurgency, it is inevitable to have death of some civillians. However unless a few UML cadre die during this emergency, there wont be any thing 'unpleasant" from these bastards et al( this goes to all blood suckers who belong to the same family but bears different name of subspecies just to show how worse they are from the worst).
Looking at the support NY firefighters and police got from the national and international community, I feel ashamed of the patriotism that we manifest by condeming police and army who are at the front line fighting and loosing their lives for our babu ama didi bahini back at home.
I salute all of them.
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| DiG |
Posted
on 07-Dec-01 01:31 AM
Thito: Your thoughts and intellegince has certainly been bought out by the mass media and you are trying to "Americanize" the problems of Nepal.
The 911 problem was done by terrorists outside of the US, few people who actually carried out the act. The maoists of Nepal are our brothers and sisters. They are not the same as Al Queda network as you seem to suggest from your writing.
UML is alsmost speaking the language of the WEST- like what the European Union said. The maoist has to be quelled- but if military actions are seen as the only means to end it-- we will experience a long-fight like that of Sri Lanka, Phillipines or even Columbia. We are not America- you must realize that first. The "maoists" themselves are "victims" of our "samanti" culture which will take a while to be uprooted. The concept of democracy needs to seep to our culture which will take quite a while.
If you look at the history of our country, mass of our people have really not felt the revolution- this might be one of the cause of the maoist uprising. We still have rituals and tradition which degrades fellow humans (caste system), we still value less of others human rights (most of you have "kancha" at home who does the dishes while you watch TV).
Of course you can close your eyes and compare our problems to the 911. But if you open your eyes you will see it different. My point is not if UML is right or wrong, but rather what should be right step for us.
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| Nepali |
Posted
on 07-Dec-01 01:45 AM
As my best knowledge, Makune stand for thief, ChOOR, Taag, Daka and Gadha man of NEPAL
Nepali
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| dariwal |
Posted
on 07-Dec-01 05:06 PM
Dig!
i agree with you in the matter that the situation is not as of america and unfortunately we are fighting against our own peoples. But my concern here is the lack of unity between these party leaders even if its a matter of national crisis.I'm not for or against any party. The question here is now the army has been deployed to take care of the problem and even UML had agreed upon that.Now, once you are already in the frontline, aren't we supposed to give a full support to the army or police instead of threatning them with whatever the "negative means" are.
And even the scene is different than 9/11 in america, i agree with thito in the matter of supporting the police and army like the firefighters and police were supported over here. Just beacuse the case is different dosen't mean that we can't learn from the good side.
Anyway, i disagree with the statement from Madhav kumar nepal and i think he needs to come to the mainstream and support whatever the Gov, police and army are trying to do.
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| dariwal |
Posted
on 07-Dec-01 05:11 PM
And one more thing, having a "Kancha" at home dosen't mean that they are bad people. I do agree that those kanchas needs to be treated fairly and I also think that that's just a job they are doing and nothing more than they are being employed, or educated by the so called samaniti(?????) by sending them to schools which they could not have afforded if not employed.
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| numb |
Posted
on 07-Dec-01 08:45 PM
MAKUNE==== madav kumar nepal, chor ho chor, nepal bechney chor haru ko leader ho
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| DiG |
Posted
on 08-Dec-01 01:36 AM
"Kancha" here I mean by "hiring" some kid and not treating him right. Most of them are not sent to school and rather used and abused. These kids are rarely paid- just room and board. I understand the argument that these kids might be way better off than their own home- but that does not mean we should keep quite and let them be what they are. Its like if you are from Nepal- its ok to be paid $2 per hour at McDonalds, because you would make less in Nepal.
I think UML supported the goverment- without UML's support there was no way Deuba Government could have done anything, by the same token, UML also did not have a choice but to support (international pressure or internal pressure) the government at this time.
The postion of the army and the police of our country is a little different than compared to the good ole US of A. The Army seems to at time alienate from the government (as past experience has shown). The government itself at times has not shown to be on the people's side many a times. So there is some distrust between the government and the people of Nepal. A lot of innocent people have been killed by the government in the past in the name of the maoist erradiacation (Kilo Shera 2 etc. etc.. The government is controlled by these "samanti"'s at the local level who have always oppressed the uneducated, imporvished people of Nepal.
If you look at the Army histroy of Nepal recently- they have been used by the leaders/kings to oppress the voices of the people and not in fighting a foreign enemy. So that level of distrust with the army exists widely. Some people in Nepal are skeptic that the army will take over and total Monarchy will return. While this might not happen, but there are people in Nepal, who have experienced 17 saal or 36 saal or 46 saal believe so.
So now tell me why should one blindly support the Army? If you look at the Army structure-- there are major problems-- the lower caste/poor Nepalese who are in the Army always remain at the bottom- mostly working as servants (ardhali) to the high ranking "Chetri/Thakuri" officers. While their family is being oprressed by the 'samanti's at their village, they suffer at their work.
The firefighters of NYC risked their lives to save others. The US army/marine/navy are fighting against the Taaliban/Al Queda. Our army is fighting against our own people- the maoists of Nepal- whom I bet are maoists by force or by their imporvished oppressed lives by than their choice. The question is are they really our enemies. Are the RNA fighting for us and the democracy or they have their own agenda-- these are serious questions, speculation certainly arises- and UML or every Nepali citizen for that matter has a right.
The Army has to prove themself first, the police has to prove themself first, the government has to prove themself first- to get our support.
It has taken years to build the United States, it will take years to build Nepal.
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