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| ashu |
Posted
on 16-Dec-01 06:07 AM
Hi all,
If receiving a series of hate emails made San -- the Web master -- rightly pissed off enough to block the access of certain posters from certain ISPs here, what about those of us registered users who have by now (yawn!) learnt to DELETE anonymous hate mails -- by way of gbnc.org -- that greet us everytime we open our inboxes? I certainly have lost count of how many hate emails I get!!
Fortunately, as individuals, we too can take steps. We can block emails from certain addresses from ever reaching our inbox, and that's good.
On another note, I am SAD that two forums (economy class and business class, to use the disliked metaphor that seems to have stuck most vividly in people's mind here!) do not exist anymore.
Oh well.
That's life.
I must hnestly confess that though I have long known Ranjit Rana to be a LIAR, of all of Arnico's reasons, what persuaded me the most was his statement that whenever he recommended this site to anyone else, he ended up feeling embarassed (later seeing the kind of garbage posted here!)
Episodes of similar embarassment had happened a number of times to me too, and, frankly, being a human being, I was tired of embarrassed about gbnc.org.
In retrospect, of al the reasons, this was that influenced me the most to push for the two sections.
But, but, but maybe -- after some thought and more experimentation -- I have realized that none of us really needs to be embarassed about anything.
I mean, at the end of the day, no matter what, the reality is some people here ARE going to take advantage of anonymity to spread lies and innuendos about others WITHOUT ANY ACCOUNTABILITY to the truth, let alone to themselves.
That's not going to stop at all. (Fortunately, since this is an open forum. one can always hit back at liars with the truth, and that's good.)
And some people will post objectionable stuff, and on and on.
Maybe that's what -- as Siwalik says in so many words -- democracy IS anyway.
Live and let live.
Anyway, that's what I am thinking these days
That said, I still request all to sign up as registered users.
But it's also great to do experiments and see what works and what doesn't.
Only an open forum allows that kind of learning.
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| SIWALIK |
Posted
on 16-Dec-01 10:45 AM
Ashu: I think you have matured in realizing that there is nothing for you to be embarassed about what other people post about you or anyone else. Each posting is a reflection on the person's mental attitude and health. That is why you find a variety in it all. It is not a fault that we as humans would like others to see our point of view and even think like us, have the same norms and principles, and conform to what we prefer, accept and take as truth. But at the same times, as humans, that is not possible. We also like to rebel, disagree and be outright defiant, not conform. This forum is just a reflection of life. So you can find the equivalent of an inner city ghetto everywhere. I am glad that you do not feel embarassed about behavior of some people in this forum. While I think that is a correct response, I feel that we all have to be embarassed about it. But that does not mean we censor; we have to fight back. Remember the greater forces at work in life as a whole: GOOD vs. EVIL. If there is evil amidst us, I would rather accept that it exists than try to be in denial, sweep it under the carpet and pretend that life, and everything else, is all dandy and clean.
As Nepalese are the most frequent users of this forum--my assumtion only--the level of discussion here is an image of Nepal itself. And you are well aware that ours is a "sick" society, existing in the margin of modern world. Look at the HDI report where we stand: Literacy rate--40.4%; life expectancy at birth--58.1 yrs, and GDP per capita (PPP)--$1,237; overall rank 129th in the world. But even the 40% literacy rate is deceptive. How many of us actually are educated? Here I am making a distinction between being literate and educated. By educated, I mean someone who is literate enough to make independent analysis and judgement. Nepalese schools, for the most part, just make our society literate. We do not encourage "critical thinking." Our society does not encourage it either. so while our society may honor guests, respect seniority, etc. we do not much foster an atmosphere for questioning authority. But I may be digressing now.
So my point is this: We cannot reflect what we are not. Majority of our society is denied any benefit. Those who are not denied--some not all-- feel they are far superior to everyboody--and have a right to demean others and be arrogant and contemptuous. But if we are educated, we will see through such pretentions.
PEACE!
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| ashu |
Posted
on 16-Dec-01 11:26 PM
Hi Siwalik,
It was and is (always) easy for me to change my mind once I saw or see better evidence, better proofs, sharper arguments and verifiable truths.
My attitude is: One cannot remain intellectually honest in public if one neglects or does not recognize better evidence, better proofs and sharper arguments that contradict one's viewpoints/ideas and beliefs. In fact, the most intellectually honest prople I have long admired often seem to have huge self-confidence but a relatively small ego!!
Moving along, one of the joys of being on this site is that this allows to let your ideas be OUT IN THE OPEN for all to see and read and comment upon so that those ideas get -- hopefully -- challenged/modified and attacked by BETTER
ones out there.
As far as I am concerned, such voluntary exchange of views is priceless
learning, and I, as a visitor here, would do anything to foster it all the more!!
I also believe that much good peer-to-peer learning can take place if more of us RISKED going public with our ideas, thoughts and beliefs and learnt to defend our ideas while being open to better ones.
Thanks for your views.
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| _BP |
Posted
on 17-Dec-01 02:52 AM
I likes this line of yours a lot Ashu, in your post above:
"In fact, the most intellectually honest prople I have long admired often seem to have huge self-confidence but a relatively small ego!! "
Be confident in your thoughts, but don't hesitate to be convinced by good evidence to change your mind. It also means, listen to someone else, even if you vehemently disagree. That implies a lack of a big ego.
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| sunakhari |
Posted
on 17-Dec-01 08:48 AM
okay
I will now take the upadhi of golden spoon from you _BP.
the "not disillusioned feminist"
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| anepalikt |
Posted
on 17-Dec-01 11:56 AM
Sunakhari:
Did you sign your name "the non-disillusioned Feminist"? Would I be labelled paranoid if I think you are referenceing a post where I said I gave up on American Feminists?
To set the record straight, and as much as I hate "...ist" ing myself. I am a feminist... just simply disappointed by those who think they speak for all feminists, but in fact do NOT.
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| sunakhari |
Posted
on 17-Dec-01 12:53 PM
oh I haven't read that posting of yours at all anepalikt, I was just referring to the little word thing of _BP's.
Now, Im going to have to hunt for your posting.
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| villageVoice |
Posted
on 17-Dec-01 01:01 PM
Dear Sunakhari:
Didn't quite like your label of a sick society. I realize I am picking up a random graph to argue, but just couldn't help it. Granted, we rank 129th in the HDI index and all that, but if GDP and the likes were the only criteria to define/judge a society/culture, Singapore, many will decide, is a much greater nation than say India, or China. Well, I am frankly not very comfortable with this correlation. Just a thought :)
That said, Ashu, I loved your mantra: high-dose of self-confidence and small ego makes for a balanced personality. Hmmm. Something to keep in mind for forever, and as _BP says listen even when you don't agree. I often put it this way: Our mind is much like parachute; it functions when it's open.
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| villageVoice |
Posted
on 17-Dec-01 01:06 PM
Sorry. The comments were made by Siwalik and NOT Sunakhari!!!
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| sunakhari |
Posted
on 17-Dec-01 03:00 PM
Village Voice
you are pardoned!!
and I was wondering what the heck you were talking about. PHEW!!
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| Assutoss |
Posted
on 24-Dec-01 05:19 PM
I just cannot seem to understand how My Asshole goes on philosophising about democracy and doing the right thing then takes a u turn and wants to ban people that are not registered. Man you better think(your havardness) before you start sputtering like a diarrhea infested anal irritant.
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| SM Sainju |
Posted
on 24-Dec-01 10:44 PM
About 2 years ago, my wife was only 17 month pregnant with my son. Radiologist discovered CPS (choroid plexus cyst). This is sometimes known to cause Down syndorme and trisomy 18- 21. I did a great deal or research to find out about this. Later it came out to be very normal. I thought of sharing this with all the nepalis brothers and sisters. Ranjit Rana (whatever his real name might be) replied back to me with all kinds of abusive words. I contacted Flinders University South Australia (came to know this from his IP: nslookup). The Dean of the School called me and told me a great deal about this guy who is mentally challanged. To this day, he still asks me how my mentally retarded son is doing and also calls me DC-based Jyapoo. Nonetheless, i reserve the right not to disclose the information about this retard who seems to have caused confusion and what not to great deal of people. You can see his recent response to me at www.info-nepal.com (bbs). What else can i say? So I just ignore...... Reminds of a famous Nepali Cliche`, "Goo lai chale Gandha..."
SM Sainju
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| ashu |
Posted
on 24-Dec-01 11:02 PM
Sambhu,
To add to your thought: As of today (Dec. 25, 2001), St. Xavier's School,
Godavari has NO record of any Ranjit Rana ever attending that school as a student in the 1960s or the 1970s.
His allegations against late Fr. Moran -- as his allegations against you and your family -- seem to have come out of his mind and NOT based on any verifiable strands of evidence.
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| Assutoss |
Posted
on 25-Dec-01 12:43 AM
There is a difference between that person and others that post over here. when people are confronted with facts or statements made by certain someone. People who visit here have every right to attack that person(registered or not). True Democracy would never leave anyone behind, e veryone is equal. CRYING MOMMY everytime someone says something about you is childish and immature(for a harvard grad).
Mr Asshu wants to form this club of elites descriminating the rest of us. iTS OUR CHOICE NOT YOURS whether we want to register not(this site is not your property). If it says ASHU.COM its a different case. To come to a community site and trying to put restrictions on certain people ??? If this moron can go this far in just a public website.... just imagine how far he will go if he become an elected goverment official. This is exactly what is wrong with Nepal and its people. Even if you went to Harvard. Kukur ko puchhar bangai ko bangai. You definately are showing us your true colours my friend.
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| Assutoss |
Posted
on 25-Dec-01 12:43 AM
There is a difference between that person and others that post over here. when people are confronted with facts or statements made by certain someone. People who visit here have every right to attack that person(registered or not). True Democracy would never leave anyone behind, e veryone is equal. CRYING MOMMY everytime someone says something about you is childish and immature(for a harvard grad).
Mr Asshu wants to form this club of elites descriminating the rest of us. iTS OUR CHOICE NOT YOURS whether we want to register not(this site is not your property). If it says ASHU.COM its a different case. To come to a community site and trying to put restrictions on certain people ??? If this moron can go this far in just a public website.... just imagine how far he will go if he become an elected goverment official. This is exactly what is wrong with Nepal and its people. Even if you went to Harvard. Kukur ko puchhar bangai ko bangai. You definately are showing us your true colours my friend.
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| le chef du nuit |
Posted
on 25-Dec-01 10:49 AM
dude
whatever you say may be right
to register or not to register is ones one choice
but if you continue to use that name that you use "assutosh", who the f will care what you think?
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| autoss |
Posted
on 25-Dec-01 11:40 AM
What's in a name but fact is fact and truth is truth.
People can say whatever but this was just an honest observation I made.
Take it or leave its your choice. I am trying to imply or impose anything here.
Just an ordinary Joe making an honest observation and I just hate hypocrites.
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