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A reply to Rajendra, re: "rudeness"

   Rajendra, our "copy and paste" master wr 06-Dec-00 ashu
     You are right again, this time about the 07-Dec-00 rajendra
       Our palpably impatient "copy and paste" 07-Dec-00 ashu
         Yet another tiringly long response? Boy, 08-Dec-00 rajendra
           Rajendra Dai wrote: >Yet another tiri 08-Dec-00 ashu
             In case you didn't read me right before, 09-Dec-00 rajendra
               >In case you didn't read me right before 09-Dec-00 ashu
                 Don't know if any of your family member 10-Dec-00 rajendra


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ashu Posted on 06-Dec-00 08:29 PM

Rajendra, our "copy and paste" master wrote:

>For all the lecture about humbleness and setting an
>example, I always think it's wiser to be setting one
>of your own

Dear Rajendra,

Greetings.

Thank you for your confidence in me.

Despite your confidence, however, I am aware that I still have
a long way to go before I reach the level of
Dr. Gongal.

That is why, on this journey of life, for now anyway,
I prefer to draw lessons from Dr. Gongal's life by
using his OWN PUBLISHED words to urge us all,
especially his youngest son Shailesh Nath (who's a GBNC
Board member too) to:

a) not be rude to others.
b) not lose patience over small things.
c) not lose emotional control so as to damage
long-standing friendships.
d) not pit friends against friends.

I hope the lessons I have drawn are clear enough.

>than to keep talking about others and their children.

Rajendra, I regret to see that you insult Dr.
Gongal by calling him "others".

He is not some "others". He is a PUBLIC figure in
Nepal whose words are taken seriously by the
public.

Besides, you also insult Shailesh Nath by calling
him "children". Shailesh Nath is no "children".

Shailesh Nath too, if I am not mistaken, spends
all his waking hours thinking about how to make
the GBNC better, and in this, we all should
support him by also making his father's lessons
crystal-clear to him.

>Also, short sweet responses are more likely to be
>read than lengthy filibustering lectures!

Rajendra, you are entitled to your views, and
I support your right to express your views.

But I remain quietly confident that I do have
have a sizeable audience on the Net that reads
my postings and is always free to agree or
disagree with my views.

oohi
ashu
rajendra Posted on 07-Dec-00 05:08 PM

You are right again, this time about the size of your audience! One probable reason for that is you write, dare I say, such lenggggthy tirades... ugh!! If I were you, I'd also cut down on those silly presumptions and cheeky patronizing better known as being condescending(?)... after all, I'm probably older than you!!

rajendra dai
ashu Posted on 07-Dec-00 09:12 PM

Our palpably impatient "copy and paste" master
Rajendra Dai wrote:

>You are right again, this time about the
>size of your audience!

Thank you, Rajendra Dai.

But logically, if I have the audience I claim,
and you agree with my claim, then your lecturing
me about the length my postings is not to
be taken seriously, don't you think?

If people are reading my postings, whether
they are long or short, why is it any
of your business to advise me what's long
and what's not?

>One probable reason
>for that is you write, dare I say, such
>lenggggthy tirades...

Rajendra Dai, if my "lenggggthy tirades..." are
attracting more intelligent and older people
like you for comments on this Web site, then
I must be doing something right, no?

>ugh!! If I were you, I'
>d also cut down on those silly presumptions
>and cheeky patronizing better known as being
>condescending(?)...

Well, you are not me.
And I am not you.
So that's that.

Again, look, however hard it is for you to
believe, I have been praising Dr. Gongal and
his youngest son Shailesh Nath on this Web
site. For all this, if anything, I should be
thanked.

Again, let us all salute Dr. Gongal in Nepal
for his forthright admission in public
about his explosive temper that has/had caused
much damage to vulnerable patients and
their families, to many colleagues and
to the public at large.

It's always gratifying to learn lessons
from our elders.

Let us also take Dr. Gongal's lessons on
humility and patience and kindness as our
bedrock principles as we get on with the
journey of our own lives.

I have always seen Shailesh Nath's elder
siblings as models of decent human beings.


But it's Shailesh Nath alone, the youngest
son, who sits on the GBNC Board, who needs
all the advice and lessons from his Pop re:

a) not blowing up over relatively trivial
details, thereby avoid burning down the house
to fix a window.

b) not turning smarter friends into tenacious
enemies.

c) not pitting friends against friends.

d) not nursing grudges over trivial matters
so as to negatively influence others.

e) and always using sensitivity, care and
understanding when dealing with friends
and acquaintances.

A better, calmer and more emotionally
reasonable Shailesh Nath can do a lot
more for the GBNC, and we all need
that.

There you have it, Rajendra Dai. This
posting is long: But people are free to
read or not read this.

You are free to lecture me again about
the length and the whole thing.

From my side, I thank you again for
allowing me to repeat my points.

oohi
ashu







>after all, I'm probably
>older than you!!
>
>rajendra dai
rajendra Posted on 08-Dec-00 03:41 PM

Yet another tiringly long response? Boy, you are one deeeeeeep volcano!

Anyway, lighten up buddy! Life is too short to be angry (and be writing) sooo long! :)

And what's with Dr. Gongal and his youngest son again and again? Do they owe you money??

Take it easy and yes we are all God's children, aren't we?
ashu Posted on 08-Dec-00 08:58 PM

Rajendra Dai wrote:

>Yet another tiringly long response? Boy, you
>are one deeeeeeep volcano!

Dear Rajendra Dai,

You know, you have every right NOT to
read these comments :-)

As for being a volcano, well, that's
your assessment, and one is free to
agree or disagree with you.

>Anyway, lighten up buddy! Life is too short
>to be angry (and be writing) sooo long! :)

Far from being angry, Rajendra Dai, I was
distilling lessons to lead a happy, longer
life. Where did you detect anger in these
postings?

>And what's with Dr. Gongal and his youngest
>son again and again? Do they owe you money??

I have nothing against Dr. Gongal but the
highest of respects.

As for the youngest son, he shows great
potential to be a good guy if he
follows his own father's advice.

>Take it easy and yes we are all God's
>children, aren't we?

Oh, yes, we are.

oohi
ashu
rajendra Posted on 09-Dec-00 01:26 AM

In case you didn't read me right before, let me say it again more clearly: if Dr. Gongal or his youngest son owes you money, this is not the place to ask, not even seek vengeance. If you respect someone, you don't keep harping on them. How come you hardly harp about your own father or your siblings here, I'm sure you have respect for them too, no?
ashu Posted on 09-Dec-00 02:56 PM

>In case you didn't read me right before, let
>me say it again more clearly: if Dr. Gongal
>or his youngest son owes you money, this is
>not the place to ask, not even seek
>vengeance.


Let's get certain things clear,
all right?

If you think I am seeking vengeance
here, well, so be it. You know, you
are FREE to believe whatever it is
that you want to believe. Who am
I to stop you?

Personally, I see nothing wrong with
vigorously spreading Dr. Gongal's words
about humility, self-control and a
little kindness.

If you disagree, then, fine.

Let's just disagree and go our
separate ways.

It's as simple as that.

>If you respect someone, you don't
>keep harping on them.

No.

If you respect someone, then, yes, you
do take that person's name again and
again.

Don't you? I certainly do.

Now, if you are specifically uncomfortable
with my repeatedly taking the youngest son's
name here, well, you have my sympathies.

But, you know what, at the end of
the day, it'd be YOUR own discomfort
that YOU -- and NOT I -- have to deal with.

Others, as I have always said, are FREE
to ignore or not read these postings.

Live and let live, hai na ta?

>How come you hardly
>harp about your own father or your siblings
>here, I'm sure you have respect for them too,
> no?

My family, for better or worse, has
never made any PUBLIC statements
that I can post here or anywhere.

I have, as you well know, only used
Dr. Gongal's PUBLISHED words that were
his own.

Enjoy!!

oohi
ashu
rajendra Posted on 10-Dec-00 12:48 AM

Don't know if any of your family member made a public statement, but you surely seem to be making one here! And the message one gets is a do-good, am-good headline laced with vengeance and personal grievance between the lines. Or maybe it's just me?!

Anyway, there you go again, yet another lengthy harangue!! I've gone from reading to glancing -- if you don't mind my saying so, you might be losing even more readership!

PS. By the way, what's your father's name?? Maybe I can come up with something! (Just kidding!) ;)