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   Hi ashu: Thanks for zealously purs 06-Dec-00 Biswo
     >Hi ashu: > > Thanks for zealously p 07-Dec-00 ashu
       Ashu: No,I am not making any comments 07-Dec-00 biswo
         Hi Ashu: In the previous comment, I 08-Dec-00 Biswo


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Biswo Posted on 06-Dec-00 11:50 PM

Hi ashu:

Thanks for zealously pursuing the Safa Tempo stuffs.It is very
long report to be read in the final test time,though,I promise
I shall give every attention to the article and write my comments.
(Hopefully,others who were also interested in the subject in
the past!)

My request is: if possible,please try to write down a small
'blurb' regarding the article and writer whenever possible,so
that I can have little bit idea about the writer and the context
of the article also.It was also not very clear if I can raise any
question should such need arise.(Though this be assured that
I am not apt to make any appreciable predisposition about the writer
and article depending upon such introduction!!)

In another note:your movement for free jagga to kamaiyas seems
to have succeeded,though quite not your way(not 10 kaththa).I
was all along convinced that this 10 Kaththaa demand was
inordinate.So,I think the government decision,if some conditions
are attached regarding the transaction capacity of the lessee in
the future,is pretty much commendable.Remember,there are simply
too many pauper citizens in Nepal to allocate them limited land.
Random land allocation in such resource constrained country
can end up in massive deforrestration and other problems !
ashu Posted on 07-Dec-00 09:32 PM

>Hi ashu:
>
> Thanks for zealously pursuing the Safa
>Tempo stuffs.
>It is very
>long report to be read in the final test
>time,though,I promise
>I shall give every attention to the article
>and write my comments.

Thank you. Yes, take your time. Also, please
alert others about this site too so they too
can read the report.

> In another note:your movement for free
>jagga to kamaiyas seems
>to have succeeded,though quite not your way(
>not 10 kaththa).


Well, just this coming Monday, there's a big
protest rally in Dhangadi re: the ex-Kamaiyas'
demand for 10 katthas of land.

Our research shows that:

a) there are chunks of undesignated
land AVAILABLE in the Far Western Nepal in
Kanchanpur and Kailali.

b) you don't have to cut down the forests
to give land to the ex-Kamaiyas.

c) If the government has bighas and bighas
of land to give out to sukumbasis, as it
has been doing, its PRIORITY now should
be the recently freed Kamaiyas.

d) this one to five kattha thing is NOT
to be taken seriously. The government
makes easy promises and does not keep
any of them all. These promises are
tactics to premptively mollify the Monday
ko Andolan.

We'll see how things go.
I haven't forgotten your questions.

More later.

oohi
ashu
biswo Posted on 07-Dec-00 10:23 PM

Ashu:

No,I am not making any comments yet.Just looked at the report ,
which is a commendable effort from the writer, and as you can
guess,the first place I saw was about the battery disposal.

She writes:

>>
The most debated issue in the environmental implication of EVs that is, the
lead emission from the spent batteries would be solved if the existing
system for lead recycling in Nepal could be improved. The battery
collection system can be expanded with the inclusion of EV batteries and
delivered to the lead recycling plant, where the recycling should be
properly carried out.



and another problem in the article is the omission of annex1
which ,unfortunately, is also about the battery.I hope you will
try to post the omitted part later.Again,because of my final exam,
Please expect comments around Christmas.Thanks for pursuing the
subject.As you are befriending the businessmen themselves,be
careful not to be suggestible to their all assertion(I am sure
you will not),as you know nobody doing business of a vehicle
says his vehicle is inferior.(Again,you may term it cynicism,I
like to say this is skepticism.)

And hey,sukumbasis and kamaiyas are same.Once granted sukumbasi
land,they no longer count as sukumbasi(acc to rule).Those who
are still considered sukumbasis are sukumbasis because they have
not received any state-furnished land yet.As unfortunate and
as poor as kamaiyas,I guess.Or in the word of Marx"With only
shackles and chains to lose,but the whole world to conquer.."
Biswo Posted on 08-Dec-00 01:05 AM

Hi Ashu:

In the previous comment, I quoted the writer as

She writes:

>>
The most debated issue in the environmental implication of EVs that is, the
lead emission from the spent batteries would be solved if the existing
system for lead recycling in Nepal could be improved. The battery
collection system can be expanded with the inclusion of EV batteries and
delivered to the lead recycling plant, where the recycling should be
properly carried out.




but forgot to write the comment on the excerpt.

Here it follows:

Does this paragraph mean we don't have any existing facility
(satisfiable) for handling the lead disposal.I actually don't
see any difference in recycling the battery in KTM and Hetauda
because we need to save Hetauda's environment as that of KTM,
though I recognize KTM bears momentous importance if prioritized.
And isn't it naive to assume that lead will be kept on being
exported to unpredictable neighbor who can anytime stop them(The
only other effective way to avoid the lead pollution in KTM as
described by the writer,as long as I can see in the posting.)?

Anyway,battery disposal has been termed a problem, and it is
imperative that the problem be addressed effectively before
lobbying for something that is going to be equally dangerous in
the long term!

And may I know the brandname of EV battery being used in those
tempos? Is it imported or made in Nepal? I am asking this just
to appraise the capacity of the battery being used,as the power
production of several brands of battery is one of my interests.
And as you can guess,they provide insight of the vehicle,
especially the vehicle with such a mammoth weight of battery!

Thanks again.There seem to be relatively few websites offering
info on Nepali safa tempo,isn't it?