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| HahooGuru |
Posted
on 19-Jan-02 01:29 AM
How do you recognize a pure pakheNepali, even
after living years outside Nepal:
1. Always late in a Nepali organized programme to dinner or lunch.
2. Sake samma hatale khancha. Throws kata-chamcha away. Jhyau.
3. Takes lunch pack full of dal-bhat-tarkari, everyday.
4. Hates to talk local currency in local name, but, calls it paisa
Dollar lai rupiya, cents lai paisa. Yen lai rupiya.
5. computes 1dollar equal to 80rupees. Bachaunu parcha.
6. Buys clothes in 2nd hand store. Pretends as if new.
7. Lies with fellow nepalis, especially, when invited in
paid parties. He does not say its expensive, but, aaj
mero kaam paryo .... but, when invited in home party
sponsored by host, cancels all programs and attends the
party.
8. Plays playing cards. Thats his game or excercize..
9. Unmarried Nepali pakhes try to find another foreign women,
become happy when a girl approach them, other Pakhe Nepalis
say, tysle ta tyo keti lai patayo. In reverse, if a Nepali girl
walk with other boys of othe nationality, tyo keti lai tyasle
bhyayechha jasto chha. spreads rumors.
10. ............. Plays politics, and if some one else does not
belong to other political party supporter, s.he does want to
even talk to the Nepali, but, khoiro khancha.
Guruji
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| arnico |
Posted
on 19-Jan-02 11:37 AM
...as I can only fulfill points 1 through 5 I must be just half a pakhe Nepali.
GPji (?)... good to see you try some of the oohi 10 point lists as well.
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| Dariwal |
Posted
on 19-Jan-02 02:56 PM
1.Being late definetly is a bad habit if it is from carelessness but i don't think how it is related to be pakhe.
2.Whatever you feel comfortable with, that's how you should eat. It's just a matter of choice.
3.If you like pizza then you would like to eat that most of the time.So, what's wrong eating dal-bhat tarkari.
4.Again it's whatever you feel comfortable with.
5.How would you compute? 76.56 or whatever. Even in math you round it and try to come up with a whole number.
Looking at your points, you seem like you ought to do what you are told to do. do you even have a choice of yourself or don't you feel like doing something differently if you're comfortable with rather than what you are told to do or expected to do even it bothers you.
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| BMP |
Posted
on 19-Jan-02 04:23 PM
HahooGuru,
I like your one point ..
". Unmarried Nepali pakhes try to find another foreign women,
become happy when a girl approach them, other Pakhe Nepalis
say, tysle ta tyo keti lai patayo. In reverse, if a Nepali girl
walk with other boys of othe nationality, tyo keti lai tyasle
bhyayechha jasto chha. spreads rumors".
Even if some Nepali people are here for a long time, They are still conservative.
One day I was walking with a Nepali brother. Other Nepali people called and asked me Is he your boy friend? I hate that.
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| sunakhari |
Posted
on 20-Jan-02 09:34 AM
GP I presume you don't do any of the things you have pointed out.
"1. Always late in a Nepali organized programme to dinner or lunch. "
Most Nepali dinners start late and since I eat as soon as I get home around 5:30/6 pm - I have to wait till I can digest a second dinner.
"2. Sake samma hatale khancha. Throws kata-chamcha away. Jhyau."
I don't know about you but dal-bhat-tarkari just does not taste the same if you eat with kata chamcha. Try eating khasi ko masu with your fork and knife!
"3. Takes lunch pack full of dal-bhat-tarkari, everyday."
And you point is????
Who says its a crime to take leftover dbt to work? If my colleague can eat a stinking pizza everyday, I have my rights to my own kind of food.
"4. Hates to talk local currency in local name, but, calls it paisa
Dollar lai rupiya, cents lai paisa. Yen lai rupiya. "
I'll call it (1 dollar a rupiya) what the heck I want to. But that doesn't mean I'm a moron and I think its a rupiya when its a dollar.
5. computes 1dollar equal to 80rupees. Bachaunu parcha.
And you don't/didn't??? good for you!
"6. Buys clothes in 2nd hand store. Pretends as if new. "
GPji, if you don't know by now. Let me educate you. Its called consignment clothing and its the new hip thing dear!
"7. Lies with fellow nepalis, especially, when invited in
paid parties. He does not say its expensive, but, aaj
mero kaam paryo .... but, when invited in home party
sponsored by host, cancels all programs and attends the
party. "
Considering how our Nepalese people will make fun of him if he says he cannot afford it, he would rather lie! And plus, heres my pet peeve, most Nepalese parties are catered through Indian Restos, why the heck would I pay to eat Indian food AGAIN?? groan! And most of our daju bhai work in such restos, why would they even PAY to come to such a party?
"8. Plays playing cards. Thats his game or excercize.. "
AND?? you are a sumo wrestler?? If you're not shame on YOU!! Living in Japan you should!! You have to!! DUHHHHH
GP, I think there are things that one comes to terms with while living abroad and I don't think the ones you have outlined above are any pakhey traits. In fact, I think on your point of second hand clothes, to me you sound like an average Nepali who tries to outdo the other by wearing new clothes and shoes and givign people the wrong impression that you make a lot of money or whatever although you would be living in a one bedroom with seven other people trying to save money for your next endevour.
I also think you have a lot to see/do and learn before writing these 10 characters.
"9. Unmarried Nepali pakhes try to find another foreign women,
become happy when a girl approach them, other Pakhe Nepalis
say, tysle ta tyo keti lai patayo. In reverse, if a Nepali girl
walk with other boys of othe nationality, tyo keti lai tyasle
bhyayechha jasto chha. spreads rumors. "
I have to totally agree with you here. But this is a trait of a too-out-of-context wannabe opportunist americanized Nepali who does not see the hatti on his dadh but sees the jumra on anothers'.
AMEN
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| Brook |
Posted
on 20-Jan-02 05:21 PM
Good think you posted this reply. I was going to give Mr. HahooGuru a mouthful for his presumtuous, narrowminded hypocrisy.
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| HahooGuru |
Posted
on 20-Jan-02 07:59 PM
Voodoo Nut wrote in other threads:
This is one of the main reason for depression. You can't help not becoming 'americanized' in this culture. As they say "in Rome, act like a Roman". If you can't act like a roman in rome you'll be left out. But if you do become a little americanized in your way of life, do you suffer from any negative consequences?
For most Nepalese people who've been in the US nearly half their life, Americanization is a difficult process. What values of american culture do you want to embrace? What Nepalese values do you give up? Can you give up all Nepalese values?
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In this current thread "Oohi PakheNepali: 10 characters ",
I was not trying to call the new comers as Pakhes, but, my
points were on those who are staying in others country for
more than couple of years and still could not leave some
bad habits like late gathering than requested time, start
playing PLAYING CARDS when fellow Nepalis (esp. women)
are working hard to prepare foods. "Yaar, hijo rati paplu ...
khela sutnai pako chhaina..... "
I think regarding LIE in No. 7, I would rather prefer to tell
frankly that the party is expensive. I did it while I was in
AIT, of course, I earned some enemies, especially, from
those organizing committee against my straight objection
on the way they created a borderline on different rates.
I think there is no need to lie, you can be frank, may be it
will be a good feed back to those laukes organizing expensive
parties and turn them to POTLOK parties.
As someone wrote, that his friend was eating food all clothes
off because the spicy in his kitchen will smell at his work place.
I would rather suggest them to use Kata-chamcha if you are
going to office or school after having spicy food or take
enough hand wash (several time to avoid yellowis hand
-Besar ko rang from nail corners), and have enough
tooth brush, if possible take a better chewing gum, especially,
if you are going to a place where peoples consider Spice's
smell as a bad, not as kasto mitho Basna ....
I think its a good thing to take lunch pack to work place, but,
I was trying to point out that it should not be same dal-bhat
tarakari-ji-dhan sarkari motto of Nepal, you should also be
trying to get what kind of tastes people in the country of your
stay eat or have, at least there shoudl be frequent changes
in taste.
In this context: not a better date to have a date if you had
dal-bhat-masukotarkari (spiced)-- while your counter part was
having steak. The smells will be so much repelling, you may
hate each other........
Regarding No. 6, I think I was partly (major) wrong, I withdraw
it. I should not have written it. I will replaces it with
new No. 6:
Always like sleeping. Miss classes and continue sleeping usual long hour
overnight sleep. (this does not apply to those hard working guys
who have to miss the class because they could not have time
to sleep because of parttime job in order to the school fees).
There are some who love sleep-eat-sleep attend only minimum
classes.
HahooGuru
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| gaule |
Posted
on 20-Jan-02 08:23 PM
Even if a Nepali or a NRN is 1) prompt for meetings/dinners 2) eats lunch at Tabla (Mr. non-Pakhe must know what this is) 3) with silver everyday 4) calls $ "buck" 5) spends lavisly 6) wear coture 7) goes to Tommy Hilfinger parties every weekend 8) jet-sets to Monaco and Vegas 9) doesn't assume anything about other people & 10) doesn't play politics, S/HE WILL STILL BE A POOR NEPALI IN EVERYONE'S EYES (ESP IN AMERICA) AND IT DOES NOT MATTER WHETHER S/HE IS PAKHE OR SAHARIYA.
If you really want to undo your pakhe-heritage, there is only one thing you can do, change your freking skin color :)
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| HahooGuru |
Posted
on 20-Jan-02 08:50 PM
Gaule writes:
If you really want to undo your pakhe-heritage, there is only one thing you can do, change your freking skin color :)
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True in Japan too. Change your skin to "PINK", eyes to blue, you might
be treated better. In Nepal too. In India too. In Singapore too
In Thailand too. In Africa too. Well, if you go to remote africa
you will be called as European, because Nepalis look like Spanish,
some peoples say.
When I was in LA last year, around the end of days travel, the
tourists asked the Bus driver how is safety in this area. I was
surprised with the sentance by that bus driver, "As long as you
don't have affair with Black guys, you will not be in trouble.
Keep yourself away from Blacks. Do not debate or discuss
with them". Is this true?
Well, Nepali Pakhes are of two types:
1. Unknowingly having some strange behavior. I am not talking
some special bahviors that need not be changed. Some are
good to be changed: like mukh aaaa gari gwam gwam awaj
nikali khane. gwam gum ek chin ma nai sakne, no side talk
nothing, only eat and eat....finish in 10minute. Those who
are having or trying hard to improve their behaviors to suit
the society they moved to, may be a matter of time, but,
my points were on the peoples who fall under category 2.
If you don't know something well, its better to watch or
ask someone, how can you behave properly. One of them
I was surprised in Japan, was knocking the prof.'s door.
In Japan, when you knock someone's door, one Assoc. prof.
who rallied me to diff. prof. on first day of my arrival here
about 10years back, was to knock only 2time, neither more
nor less, just 2. Twang twang. If you do more, you are
considered pakhe, mannerless. As we Nepalis who were
in Nepali college, we used to enter in Campus chiefs room
to dept. head or other prof. 's room without appointment
without knocking the door. When the HOD introduced,
rules to take appointment or knock the door, our leaders
were competiting who can enter in his rooms without
following rules. One section of our society is moving towards
avoid rules while others are calling it "manner nabha ka
manche" : Pakhe peoples. I think there are certain good
things to learn, if you behaved them because you did not
know.
2. Knowingly pakhe: Those who pretend to be slept and know
that certain behaviors are bad, like one mentioned in previous
point, but, continue to show. Yastai ho hamro chalan......
HahooGuru
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| Durcheruwa |
Posted
on 20-Jan-02 09:04 PM
Man, what can I say, despite having so much education so much internation exposure, why we find utter sense of satifaction belittling our fellow Nepali people. I know we are not perfect, nobody in the World is perfect. Kura katnu, haatlae khanu, keti lai paye jiskaunu, backbite garnu these are all our qualities. I proudly admit I do that. I am pretty sure the guys who were sounding here so perfect are not immune to these imperfections either. I am not going to ride on the bandwagon of bashing these imperfections of Nepali people unless if I am sure I could stop doing that.
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| HahooGuru |
Posted
on 20-Jan-02 09:45 PM
Why do I feel that I am a unique(typical???) Nepali Pakhe:
1. When I eat stomach full.
2. When I drink too much alcohol (beers) and
sleep on the floor unconsciously.
3. Drink tea with surup surup awaj. / Daatma kehi
adkida hatle / aula jhiknu parne situation aauda.
4. Leave house without early morning bath.
5. Wear T/shirts withou Iron.
6. get angry with my kids or wife for theri minor mistake, especially,
when under pressure.
7. When I dislike some one. Or, arooko kura katda.
or, think his/her act cynically or sarcastically, or
doubt on his/her honesty.
8. When I am in hurry and cross the road while it
has red signal for pedestrains.
9. When I miss appointments by a few minutes or seconds.
10. When I enter meetings "Hasyan fasyang" .
11. When I am too much confined by my likings, or away from
my dislikes.
12. When I reject peoples, just because they are Akhile "ANNFSUE"
in nature.
13. When I remember my first year of affiliations with e-Mail,
TND/SCN. I was so Pakhe. My early emails were really cowardly.
14. When I realized that I didn't know where to stop, i.e. keep on
moving or run my profanity when my audience are feeling
Yawnnnnning ....
HahooGuru
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| SIWALIK |
Posted
on 20-Jan-02 10:06 PM
Comments on Nepalese attitude about the opposite sex seems right on the mark. I am familiar with the "Paplu" culture as well. Certain things cannot be learned if you were not taught in school. I knew a certain person in Alabama who used to eat and drink with lot of noise.
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| NK |
Posted
on 21-Jan-02 09:34 AM
Enjoying your say/views on "paakhe" GPji.
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