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       Bhurtel Daile sahi kuro lekhichhan k yah 22-Jan-02 Makardhoj
         Kohi Kohilai man parecha, tyasaile alika 22-Jan-02 Diabolic
           What is it? Daangre or Rupi or Saaraun! 22-Jan-02 An Indun Poet
             Poet Jee, 1 Choti k bhayo bhane, hami 22-Jan-02 MakarDhoj
               Thik Thik- paraai- Gurung/Magarle ho van 22-Jan-02 Diabolic
                 In Pokhara and KTM, another big differen 22-Jan-02 HahooGuru
                   Arko Pokhreli Tarika: When you goto a 22-Jan-02 Diabolic
                     Purva: Damakbata ghurera birtamod ako ki 23-Jan-02 Makardhoj


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Diabolic Posted on 21-Jan-02 11:34 PM

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Harek thau-thauko aafnai Bhasha huncha- thet bhasha. Kaski, Lamjung, Syanja, Parbat, Baglung, Myagdikale alli 'pakhe' bolchan. Americako Southern accent vanejhai, hamro gaun-ghar tira boline thet 'thet' accent kata-kata mildojuldo lagcha. Below are few words spoken by people around the area mentioned.

Kannaa (kando)= your back or dhaadh(Kathmanduma it means buttocks)
Bhatta= soyabean (Kathamnduma Bhatmaas vanincha and Bhatta actually is understood as Pashupatiko Bhatta)
Belauti= Amba
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Style of Speaking:

Ktm: Ani tapaaiko ghar kata parcha?
PKR: Ani aanfno ghara kanh paryo?
Ktm Girl: Oho Harile Seto Pant ra Kaalo shirt lagaeko cha aaja ta. Kasto Handsome dekhieko! Malaai herya herana usle!
PKR Girl: Oho, Harile Seto paaint ra Kaalo kamij laaicha aaja ta, aapui chi, moraalai kasto suaako ho gaanthe! oi mori herna malaai katro aakhale hericcha!
Diabolic Posted on 21-Jan-02 11:36 PM

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Author: Bhurtel Post date: 1/18/2002 1:55:05 AM EST

Ktm Girl: dhilo vo ghar jaau chadai natra mummyle marisincha
Pkr Girl: dhilo vo by, chadai ghara jaam, natra aaja aamale marchin malaai ta

PKR= Aaansi
KTM= Hasiyaa

Author: Bhurtel Post date: 1/18/2002 2:01:53 AM EST

A Husband calling his wife telling her to come over to the house because there are guests. The wife is working in the field below with patuka on her head to get the sun away from her head.

PKR: Ooooooooooooooooooooooi Raaamekeeee aaaan (aan is short for aama), ghara chaadai aaijo aaaijo, talla ghare saanika dula aaichan aaichan!
Ktm: E Raame, jaa ta tero mummylai bolaa, maathi TV herdai che, yahan Jwai Sahab aaaisya cha!
Makardhoj Posted on 22-Jan-02 02:10 AM

Bhurtel Daile sahi kuro lekhichhan k yaha.

Malai Ktm ma man naparne kura:

Sangai hideko tesro sathilai 'Tan' bhanchha yaar sale haru :
A: Kasto kura garchha yaar yo C.
B: Hain thik Garya chha ni sunuus na.
A: C Jee hernus ta ...

I mean they use 'Tan' while talking to others even they are together. They use 'Tapain' again while talking as second person.


Ktm ko boli Newari bhashako effect le hola bigreko chha, sadeko chha, thado chha ... mithas chhaina. Jharrapan chhaina, Thetpan chhaina.
Diabolic Posted on 22-Jan-02 01:12 PM

Kohi Kohilai man parecha, tyasaile alikati thapdaichu.

Pokhreli Talk:

Old Man: E Naaniharu kataa ta jhareka hau? (translation: Katabata)

1st Girl: Jimdaar baa, namaskaar, tyahi Surjeka gaittemkere parnalai vanera, aamda aamdai ghaam astaaye(Jamindaar, Surya, gayeka thiyau, padhnalaai)

2nd Girl: Baa, Namaskar Ani baa kataa lagna laaunu vo ta ni raata bikha

OM: tyanha BCko khet-aan diyaan chirera ek garhonai siddhyaecha, aba gharaka laatheharu kisaani gardina vanchan, yai budhaalai sabai peer. tyo raand beunaaselai euta vaisi palna pani dhau dhau
(Besi, diyaan=gai-bastu, garho=terrace, beunaase=one from Begnaas) The old man does not realize that one of the girl is actually Beunaase's step daughter.

2nd Girl: aba duli-aanle pani katti dhaanun, daaiharu sabai kathmandu sarrich-chan, vaisi navaye dudh khana paainna vanchin, palnalai dhau-dhau. (dulhi-aan is actually dulahi aama, when the father marries a new wife, she is a dulahi)

OM:(now realizing), ani tyo Raame ta amrika jaana laaicha re ho? Pohorta ta baa vandai Dashainma goda-ign dhogna aaityo, yo saal ta mastira pani uklena. mera choraharu pani amrika/samrikaka kura garthe, baru tera dai aaiye baale bolachan vande ek choti.

1st Girl: Jimdaar baa, jaam hai haamita, voli saberai khetaaala jaanucha vai-aanka
An Indun Poet Posted on 22-Jan-02 02:49 PM

What is it? Daangre or Rupi or Saaraun! 3 names for the same bird.
MakarDhoj Posted on 22-Jan-02 07:42 PM

Poet Jee,

1 Choti k bhayo bhane, hami gharko chhatma thiyoun Ktm ma. Dangrele chuchchoma sinkaharu lieko dhekera euta bhanchha:

Paschimeli:
Ee to Dangrele makhaan chheska lieko kahan gund lamna laa racha?
(Chheska=sinkaharu)

Purbeli:
???Dangre? "Dangre" ta som Kamilai gali garda bhaninchha. "Kasto Dangro po rahechha? Kuarai nasunikana bolirachha mattai..."

(Bolirachha=Boliraheko chha, mattai=matrai)

Paschemeli: Uu to charalai k bhanchhan ta ni purba tira?

Purbeli: Rupi bhanchha ni ho som.

Paschimeli: Ho ra hamra gamma ta dangre bhanchhan.

Purbeli: (Jiddi gardai) haina Rupi ho som tyo ta. Dangre bhanne chara nai hunna.

Paschimeli: Sabdakosh chhaina? heram ta, K lekhichha.

Purbeli: Chhaina, k bhanchha ho Ktm ma sodhun na sahu jee lai.

(Sahu Jee, actually he is originally from Kabbhre, comes).

Purbeli: Sahu Jee, u tyo charalai k bhanchha, Ktm ma?

Sahu Jee: E tyo Saaraun ho. Kaha rupi huni? Dangre bhanne pani thaha chhaina malai. Sarauun bhanchha tyaslai sarauun.

(Parena fasad?)


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1. Diabolic jee le "padhai"lai "parhai" lekhnu bho tara I guess it is said by only Gurungs /Magars/Thakalis not Bhahun/Kshetris. They can say Padhai correctly.
2. Beeunase meant "Biu Nasne Manchhe" on me, first.
3. In Ktm, they say "Tan" for elder brothers/sisters. I hate it.
Paschim: "Dazi janu bhao Pakhara."
Purva: "Daju Dharantira lagnu bho."
Ktm: "Mero Dai Baneshwore gaa chha."

Ktm ka bhate haru, you must learn from others.
Diabolic Posted on 22-Jan-02 08:27 PM

Thik Thik- paraai- Gurung/Magarle ho vanne, khasa jaatile padhainai vanchan.

Pokharama arko kuro k vane, galli hundianan.

Horu tyo Ramya gharaka kanna pachadita jaau, dil dilai gaesi dahartira laaga. Thulo pakhuriko buto muni taharo cha, taharaa ta ititi muntira kaainla jeeva baschan.

Horu tyo= U tyo
dahar= galli, usually gia-vainsi hidne bato
buto== bot, rukh
ititi== alikat
muntira== tala
jeeva== hajurbauka pani bau
HahooGuru Posted on 22-Jan-02 10:12 PM

In Pokhara and KTM, another big difference lies on
the "Hamro Ghar" and "Mero Ghar".
"Hamro Ba" --- Mero Buwa
"Hamri Ama" --- Meri Mommy

...

"MA" (I, My Me, Mine) in KTM is usual, and is more personal.

But, in Pokhara, we say "Hami, Hamro, Hamri ..... ".

In my own neighbourhood, a person (now expired)
went to KTM for study and job. Was there for
long time. So, he used "Ma ka aunus na",
but, in Pokhara, "hamro ma aunus na" supposed to
be used. Thus, peoples who visited him were
irrited by "MA KA", and when he returned to
his own home, he still continued "MA KA" and
his nick name, Gali garne name in neighborhood
was "MAKA" + "NE" = MAKANE. So,
KTM peoples are MAKANE peoples.

"they have no word "Hamro" in their private
dictionary", thats what peoples in Pokhara
(that I was in contact) said.
Kasto chhuchcha hai.

HahooGuru
Diabolic Posted on 22-Jan-02 11:03 PM

Arko Pokhreli Tarika:

When you goto a shop: its always- Dai, Baje, Aaama, bahini, didi ek batta churut dinis na.

If you are in KTM: its always O Sahuji, O Sahuni ek batta churot dinus ta.

tessima jhyakne MAKANE haru
Makardhoj Posted on 23-Jan-02 12:12 AM

Purva: Damakbata ghurera birtamod ako ki garmile ramdhuklai diyo ni ho som.
Pani parna antirachha maile chhata lieko chhuina.
Paschim:Syangja ata Pakhera amda ghamle marna laen ni ma taa. Pani amna laa chha masita chhata chhaina.
Ktm: Kalanki aune gadi bhid bhaera garmile kya boar bha bhanya jhandao marna antya ma ta. Pani parnai antya thiyo, chhata thiena ma sanga.

Guru Jee, one friend talked to me that somewhere in Paschim “PUTAURO” is said for “Lohota”. Do you have any idea on it? Is it true? Would you mind to present some examples to show Pokahreli/Paschimeli language better than that of Ktm or Purva?
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MAKANE haru ko ke kura garnu?
Hernus na tiniharuko nachineko manchhesita kura suru garne tarika:

E bhai AsTi maile Thankot ma dekhya keta timi nai hos?

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Pokhara/Syangja: Asti maile hajurlai Naudadama dekhe jasto manchu. Hajur nai hunuhunchha hola ni?