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| ashu |
Posted
on 28-Jan-02 09:52 PM
An interesting article.
There is a lesson for Nepal-based software gurus too.
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/jan2002/nf20020128_4904.htm
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 29-Jan-02 12:09 AM
I don't agree with this thing, and I shall tell you more reasons later.A quck note:
Just look beyond these hypes, and name one package, JUST A SINGLE
SOFTWARE PACKAGE, Indian software companies made and competed in FREE
market and gained upper hand.
It is still a software sweatshop out there.
India, however, can be software giant if its foreign based intellectuals start
working innovating things, by funding for genuine research projects in India and
market them in the world.
In this era, innovation is the only major success. And I loud little Germany, which
despite its lackadaisical attitude to IT in the beginning, makes a big splash with
SAP lately!
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| Maneesh Dhaubadel |
Posted
on 29-Jan-02 11:28 AM
Not entirley clear what your point is, but I do think India is pretty much a powerhouse when it comes to information technology including software. Oracle and Microsoft are two big brands that spring to mind that have their products developed to a great extent in India. India also has a lot of technology consulting firms like WIPRO, TCS etc which are major palyers in the IT services sector.
But I do agree with with that there is no major Indian brand name at least in the products space. However, products are not always the number one things to sell and the bulk of what is happening in India are services related. I would be a little hesitant to brand all of India as a sweatshop, because there are many firms like INFOSYS, TCS and others that have a pretty good pay scale by Indian and even Asian standards in addition to the sweatshop kind of firms you mentioned.
Just my thoughts ....
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| krishna |
Posted
on 29-Jan-02 01:38 PM
france is to whine as india is to char sau bis.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 29-Jan-02 02:22 PM
Maneetji:
I understand what you are trying to say.
>because there are many firms like INFOSYS, TCS and others that have a pretty
>good pay scale by Indian and even Asian standards
Sweatshops do pay in local standard, and that's exactly what I am saying. The
main leverage of Indian software industry right now is its CHEAP price, let's have
no qualm. The reason China is unable overwhelm global market right now is
because of its slow start on software sector, and government's initial apprehension
about openness that Internet could bring forth.
Now, back to original question. The topic of this discussion says France is to Wine
as India is to.. and as long as I understand French wines are made on French
technology and can compete in global market against anyother companies. The
things made in India can be made anywhere. Because the originating technology
of those products lies elsewhere. Recent report also points to the downward
export rate of IT products from India.
As long as India can't make its own brand name product, and is making things for
others, it can't claim itself to be Superpower or whatever else. I understand that
scientists of Indian origins are capable of doing a lot of innovative things, so we
can hope they will make some innovative things in future. But, a cursory look at
brandnames, IT journals(# of writers from Indian technical institutes) etc doesn't
support any claim that India is a powerhouse.
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| biensure |
Posted
on 30-Jan-02 08:26 PM
biswo ji, just wanted to tell you that i completely and wholeheartedly agree with you! India cannot claim its grip over the IT industry unless it starts producing independently. Being mere servants of the global giants, its pretty disilluioned i must say, comparing itself metaphorically to french wine!
and just to top it up, france is to wine as india is to feign. It identifies the country to an extent.
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| Amateur Wine Enthusiast |
Posted
on 30-Jan-02 11:49 PM
In general, I agree with Biswo's contention that the "Indian Success" mainly stems from providing service to the booming IT infrastructure of the West (stemming mainly from Western innovation). And the Indian use of the English language being the main competitive advantage for India over, say, China.
Less substantially, here's where I disagree :-):
>Now, back to original question. The topic of
>this discussion says France is to Wine
>as India is to.. and as long as I understand
>French wines are made on French
>technology and can compete in global market
>against anyother companies.
The analogy is, I think, not appropriate. My understanding is that wine, in itself, is not a "French" invention. Or, for that matter, ANYONE's "invention". You could perhaps say that winemaking (or some sort of fermentation process with the use of yeast) dates back all the way to the greek god Bacchus. Or, more appropriately, in the godly courts of Indra, where Apsaras and Madira/Som-Ras were abundant :-). The french advantage is the varietals, with the French coastal valleys providing optimal climate for multiple varieties of excellent wine-grapes.
In this regard, contrary to what you claim, France is quite LIKE India, exploiting an ages-old "invention" to take advantage of its resources. So, then, (as it seems) am I now arguing that innovation is perhaps not necessary? Surely not. :-)
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