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| raju |
Posted
on 01-Feb-02 09:48 AM
indians are verywhere in this world. they think they can do whatever they want.
they don want nepali people to be top. and sure in canada and america we dont have any nepali professionals like engineers, doctors, police,etc. we nepalis just tend to talk but not take any action..people view us as indians so comoon nepali friends i urge all my nepali brothers and sisters to wake up and prove to these dhotis that we can be better than dhotis and we must be roconized as nepalis. not indians, chnese or anything else but NEPALESE to the international world AND BE RECONIZED WE MUST DO GOOD JOB AND RISE UP. REMEMBER THE SKY IS OUR LIMIT, NO ONE CAN STOP US FROM MAKING NEPAL AND NEPAIS RECONIZED AS A INTERNATIONAL PLAYER ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.. WE MUST FORGET OUR GRAND PARENTS, WAY OF THINKING TAHT THE MORE BUFFOLES YOU HAVE THE MORE RICHER U GET. ITS NOT THAT..WE MUST COME TOGETHER AS COMMUNITY AND BECOME RECONIZED AS NEPALIS ..WLL THE NEPALIS ARE WASHING DISHES IN DHOTIS RESTURANTS IN USA AND CANADA, AND WE THE NEW GENERATON MUST CHANGE THIS AND MAKE DHOTIS WORK IN NEPALIS .
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| JackAss |
Posted
on 01-Feb-02 12:39 PM
Dude,
Are u on speed??
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| SK |
Posted
on 01-Feb-02 12:40 PM
Dear Raju,
You have a very good point that we should stand as Nepali, we should do something good that we can be known as us. However I don't agree with you that you're comparing with India.
Before saying anything bad about Indians, before being jealous to Indian, first look at their history, thier size, how hard they work. Can we do hard work like Indian does.
You go to any corner of the world, remote places up in the Himalaya, you'll find a Indian (marawadi- the common business man term) doing some kind of business.
Look at our history, we like to be Lahure, Jagire, and now going aboard to find some kind of jagir. The most popular jagir for Nepali in Notrh America and Japan is working in Indian Resturant, in other countries like Malaysia, Korea, Arabian country labor but still jagir.
Lots of people who are going aboard for jagir sell their houses, lands, pay upto 10 lakhs to the broker. I'm not talking about students here. BUT if he/she could have invested that 10 lakhs money in Nepal, he/she could have a very good business in
Nepal.
When we think about job, somebody have to give us either Govt. or some Company but never think about creating job by ourselves.
For example look how many small business, family business are there in US. US Govt. encourage to create job by small business rather than finding a job in Govt. institution. That's the way to develop country economically.
The bottom line is we don't like to take risk. We don't have enough enterpreneurship, leadership, decision making skills.
However it's still not too late. We can start anytime wherever you are.
Jay Nepal.
SK
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| raju |
Posted
on 01-Feb-02 12:58 PM
brother let me tell you sumthing .i hope u have heard the saying " size dont matter in order to be successfull""
look at the size of switzerland, japan, isreal, uk, etc. india is twice in fact 3-6 times bigger but look their economy is leading eventhough they are very small countries comparing with india, china, us , etc.
but i am really concerned for my country nepal and for my countrymens. do u think india wants to see nepal being successful and have a world class economy????
i believe u that dhotis are hard working people infact they even collect purano kagaj and khali sisi for money. but look they have also 1.4 billion people and still ahead of nepal.. all i am saying is even in america and canada we are still way behind indians in every aspect, also in europe they are ahead of us 10 times. when are we gonna rise to our own god given feets and stop working as cheap labours in indian resturants ?
they (indians ) are taking advantage becos nepalis are regarded as honest, hard working people and even if they get $1000 rupees washing dishes in indianresturants , they dont speak up and say i need more. cos they cant talk or they are scared. if u think fo a moment , they dhotis should be working in nepali's business and we should treat them like dogs as they treat our cuntry mens.
but i am saying when wll this happen??? look in americas they have their own tv shows, professionals and what we nepalis have?? bullshit !!!!
so common my fellow nepali citizens i aurge you all to stop relying on dhotis and go your own way. and work also for the betterment for your community. i have a hope one day all the people through out the world reconize as nepalis and not indians..my other hope is that one day we will stop working as dogs in dishwashers and make them our dogs in our businesses..
jay nepal.. god bless us all
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| ke cha |
Posted
on 01-Feb-02 01:26 PM
No freaking way. Not in our lifetime and at least not until the attitude among Nepalis start changing.
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| SK |
Posted
on 01-Feb-02 04:03 PM
Exactly, not unless we change our attitude.
Dear Raju, as I told you I agree with your point that size of country doesn't matter, population doesn't matter. If we develop our people/ ourself to work hard we'll not be very far from India, Japan or US. BUT this is all after we work hard, changing our attitude.
What I don't like in your posting is please don't compare with India. Instead you did in your second posting by inviting to our community for unity and start working. Also please don't call all dhotis are Indians. There are our Nepali people also who wear dhoti. Somebody will be offended.
To answer your question, no India doesn't want to see Nepal successful. In fact not only Nepal, India doesn't want any of their neighbor be successful. However this is one of Human nature, politics which is beyond our control.
What is under our control is: control ourself, behave well, work hard to raise our economy. For example take Japan, how fast they came to this point. Do you know how hard they work? I have seen japanese working in Nepal and japanese working in Japan. They won't rest until they're done no matter how long it takes. Versus Nepali man always "bholi garunla, bhare garunla". Kura ma nobody in the world can beat Nepali person.
There are lots of Nepali professionals also living abroad. They claim they couldn't do in Nepal because the environment was not good for them but they don't do living abroad also because .... They find some good excuse. There are very few people I know who does whatever they can to the community.
It'll be nice if everybody think that way about our Matribhumi.
Jay Nepal
SK
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| raju |
Posted
on 01-Feb-02 04:23 PM
so sk ji
you trying to say we should let india stand in our way ???
buddy can you tell me the populations of nepal?? i am say #1 npalis, not duplicate..
in our country we dont have any laws that protect its citizens.
there is no law and order. u can pay money and get out from jail how ever big the crime is.
more than half of nepali populaion is dhotis. they come to nepal becos in their country they dont get respet and in our country thy can eat our poor peoples blood and gt a citizenship quickly than in other countries.
brother i know one cant do everything but look even our trained government police and law enforcement officers do duplicate things. they are not serious about the countrys development and economy. look in our country only 27% people can read and write . only 14% have electricity and u know our country have much much resources but u know what these so called bastards mantris do??
seelll our resources to india even if the people in nepal are suffering..
and i say we should kick all these illegal people out from nepal, and put more emphesis to education, rural development, education , and i gurentee u if our deuba government does all this we will notbe less than switzerland or japan in 25 years but look our government and law enforcers are corrupt. they will even eat gu and seelll their own nepali people for money. how can we have such mother f*****s leaders and expect to develop our country???
collin powel s the first state seceraty to go to nepal after 30-40 years . they dont go becos nepal isnt a international player , its economy is one of the poorest, and they view nepal as india..they say whatever business we do in india , nepal comes in..
so its the 21st century and nepali mantries still have an ancient way of thinking. how can we have these deuba, grija,krishna who just want money and chair to be prime minister lead our country???
who know if they can sell our people , one day they might sell our country nepal..
so brother ,unkle,whatever i shall call u ..thanks for taking part in my conversation and taking time to read my concerns for my country nepal and my country mens.
thanks.
jai nepal
pashupati nath lay hami sabai nepali ra nepal lai kalyan garoon..
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| JackAss |
Posted
on 01-Feb-02 04:32 PM
yes...Indeed....you are on speed...
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| Raju on Speed |
Posted
on 01-Feb-02 05:01 PM
JackAss Bro,
You are right. I am on speed. I just got kicked on my ass by Indian. They don't want to sponsor for my GC. What to do? That is whay I am going NUTS.....
:-))))))):-(((((((
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| SK |
Posted
on 01-Feb-02 05:05 PM
Dear Raju.
No I'm not saying that we have to let India stay on our way. I'm as emotional as you in this matter. Theoretically you're right and I support. But think for a moment is it possible to do overnight? If we kick all the leaders Krishna, Girja, Deuba who's our next leader.
I'd like to remind you again, I don't know from which part of Nepal you're, but you cann't say all dhotis are Indian and illegal. Illegally Indian can never be illegal in Nepal so as Nepali can never be illegali in India. We can buy property in India and get work with out work permit. That's our treaty between two country.
Let me tell you one thing from my experience. If you don't have enough power, money, and you're no use of anything nobody cares about you, nobody listens you. but if you have power, money and you can be useful of something then everybody comes after you.
For example take the 100,000 Bhutanese refugee in Nepal. Our Govt. are not very storng, our country is not storng, we don't have backing from any powerful country, therefore even Bhutan smaller than us doesn't listen us. Hamilai hepchha. Bhutan still is backed by India. Who do we have behind us? Nobody. That's why even UN doesn't care. Yes officially they pretend like they do, and give couple thousands dollar.
Now take the example of almost same number of Albanian refugees in Yugoslavia. There's different story.
So my point here's rather than India sanga nihu khjonu, keep them in status quo, make them happy and get as much as you can, build yourself and become stronger. So that atleast in another 10 years or so we can make deal with India and get more recognised.
I know we all are frustrated with our gu khane Netas but we have no choice right now. Let's work together to the positive direction whatever we can and whereever we are. If we go together with that attitude we'll get there. If not us atleast our next genration must see good and strong Nepal. That should be our goal.
Jay Nepal.
SK
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| SK |
Posted
on 01-Feb-02 05:09 PM
Oh!!!! ok now I understand why you're behind Indians.
Bro, this is life. Not only Indian does that thing anybody can do it. Please be patient. Think coolly and get job some other place. Don't get too emotional.
Good Luck!
SK
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| raju |
Posted
on 01-Feb-02 05:35 PM
dear sk ji what treaty wth india???????
tel me.. that india will allow more nepali dishwashers in india ..in my opinion bhutan is a country who is worser than nepal cos look id dont care if its cirizens get stranded in toehr country.
brother tell me the truth from the bottom of your heart..would you come to the americas or euope if nepal was a developed country??? i wouldnt but i havta. what can i do...
an about netas..ok can u tell me what is deuba or krishana or grija number 1 chor have done since democracy?? why do they get paid 25000 rupees per month???
you know why our country is so corrupt its becos of our buffalo like netas and the open boder between nepal and india..
ya its that treaty that gives india more power over nepal than nepal has on its self. on the treaty it say the water resources is half nepal and half india. the treaty is written like in the ancient times.
we need young leaders who are capableof taking nepal forward, economically, socially, and look at the living conditions of our nepali people. look at the health conditions of our nepali seniors.
and nepalis overseas dont take any action to do anything..one day they say we will do this and next day we will do dis..and after all they do jack.
look at indians in north america. look how successful they are. if we need to goto a doctor we havta go to a dhoi doctor or gore or anyother doctor.
bro in my view we have common goals in life .we wnat to see our country reconized in the world and see nepalis be successful but this wont happen until sher deuba, grija, and krishna and all the corrupt bloody bastards die . and look nepalis are voting for these jack asses..
since we have same view sk brother i think we should lead our country of nepal and show the outside world what nepal and nepalis are all about.
and all other kids who are making fun of me and sk keep on barking cos thats all you can do. we cant as a community in north america or anywhere cant get nowhere becos of jack shits like u..kepp on laughing and showing your yellow teeths.
jay nepal.
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| Anand Agrawala |
Posted
on 01-Feb-02 09:47 PM
RAJUCHA, YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER "PATRIOTIC WANNABEE" HYPCRITE. I HAVE ONE WORD FOR YOU "GROW UP." DON'T EVEN COMPARE NEPALIS WITH "DHOTIS." I THINK YOU ARE PLAIN JEALOUS AND TRYING TO BRING FORTH A COMMUNAL FEELING. YOU DUMB UML BASTARD.
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| SK |
Posted
on 01-Feb-02 11:37 PM
Poor Raju,
I feel sorry for you. After all you didn't get my point.
With this type of attitude we will never be able to do what we want to see.
Good Luck!
SK
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| Nepalidai |
Posted
on 02-Feb-02 01:24 AM
Poor Raju,
SKji is right and i feel sorry for you too. Finally, it does not make any sence from your all this stuff. Looks like u r from VA. hehehehehehehe........
Good Luck and have a nice day brother
Nepalidai
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| Sujit Shrestha |
Posted
on 02-Feb-02 06:45 AM
Friends, Nepali Daju Bhai, Didi Bahini,and countrymen....
Lend me you ears. Time has come to prove that we Nepalese are far more capable and deserving that our Indian neighbours. Time has come to show that world that we have our own individualilty and that the F***ing Indians showed get the hell out of our land ( Whoever the F**k decided to start this 'open Border' thing with the Indians. I really think that it is the core of all problems. You walk in Kathmandu and you'll see that there are more Indians that Nepalese on the streets, In the shops,...just everywhere. For God's sake Kathmandu is the capital of Nepal !!! These F***ing Indians have taken up all the biggest shops, all the good businesses...just about everything of Nepal's economy. And where does all that money go ??? It stays in Nepal ????? No !! All of it goes over to India !! India is draining our economy ! Its about time that the government decided to do something about the open border with India.
Jaya Nepal
Sujit.
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| raju |
Posted
on 02-Feb-02 10:40 AM
dear sujit dai,
exactly thats my point. u r right. the core of this poblem is indians and crooss broder terrirosim and open border between nepal and india.
and the maobadhis are all indians trying to give a bad image for nepal and trying to bring instability in nepal so india can take advantage of bad situation in nepal.
where do these maobadhis get all the weapons??? guns,gerneds,bombs etc???
from dhotis india..i we had a close border first of all they (indians wouldnt be in nepal) , maobadhis would be extint in 2 moths cos they wont have weapons to fight , the nepalis would have better living condditions becos they nepali citizens would take the igga and betta jobs that dhotis are taking now . so really india is on nepal way as surjit dhai explained
and listen if we dont raise our voices and take action now then what will be the future for our nepali people?? they will have to suffer generations from generations to come and indians will be enjoying.
in an article i read it said that indian border guards and nepali border guards are also involved in smuggling , duplicate things , and who is monitiring what these so called border guards are doing?? and also heard that they are taking the border marks or pillars off and taking nepals land in india side bit by bit and settling indians on that land ..
but what are the so called mantries doing about that?? they only act superior to poor, ordinary nepalis. they cant even say a word to india or outside world cos they are scared that outside might do sumthing.
anyways surjit dhai thanks for adding sweetnss to my point.
jay nepal
raju
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| SIWALIK |
Posted
on 02-Feb-02 02:42 PM
I understand the anti-Indian rhetorics expressed here and even share some of them. However, we must give the devil its due where it is called for. While no one feels inferior to anyone, especially Nepalese to Indians, we must understand that India, as the regional hegemon, has better standing in the international arena. Even in the USA, India is more of a presence than Nepalese ever will be. I just read an article and would like to share with you an excerpt:
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source: http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/living/0203southasian.html
.....But South Asians are a special case among ethnic communities in America.
The "model minority" image is a myth built on a quirk of history, says Indian-born Vijay Prashad, author of "The Karma of Brown Folk." Prashad, a professor at Trinity College in Hartford, Conn., says South Asians are disproportionately successful in America not because they are inherently more intelligent or work harder, but mostly because of immigration law.
In 1965, Congress passed the Immigration and Nationality Act. The act was intended in part to fill the country's need for more scientists at the height of the space race with the Soviets, Prashad says. Most of the South Asians who subsequently immigrated to the United States fit the bill: They were the elite.
Between 1966 and 1977, Prashad says, 83 percent of Indians who immigrated to America entered under the category of professional and technical workers: about 20,000 scientists with Ph.D.s, 40,000 engineers and 25,000 medical doctors.
Not surprisingly, those immigrants did well. Now, Prashad says, they expect their American-born children to follow the path they chose, right down to being top achievers at every level. "Parents are setting up INS [Immigration and Naturalization Service] standards for their kids," he says.
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As you can see, Nepal will never be able to compete with the seer power of Indian education system to produce high-skill manpower. I understand that India has not been the best of neighbor in our region, but we still need to maintain a cool head when it comes to international politics and understand that Nepal start almost at a non-existant role, and is not able to influence anything. Individually, maybe one can go on "bhok dartal" or leave work without prior notice and cause minor problem, but as a state...... Nepal will be a big loser to try to compete politically. Now beating India in sports is entirely different matter, and we should aspire to do that in every field: soccer, cricket, boxing....
Jai Nepal!
Siwalik Nepal
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| MD |
Posted
on 04-Feb-02 09:29 AM
On the original question, yes maybe Indians are more succesful than Nepalese. But so what? Why is it of concern to some people if Indians are more successful ? What is the need for making the comparison in the first place? Is it becasue we always define ourselves by what we are not (Indians) which is why we feel we need to look at the whole world through an anti-India prism?
Lets face it, India maybe a shitty neighbor, but we've gotta learn to live with it. Spitting venom on India will not solve any of our problems or make Nepalese more successful than Indians. Hard work and hard play just might.
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