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| Bhainsi |
Posted
on 06-Feb-02 10:55 PM
My choices for contemporary Hindi movies (in no particular order)
Chandni
Lamhe
Kuch Kuch Hota Hain
Hum Dil de chuke Sanam
Lagaan
Monsoon Wedding
DDLJ
Kaho na pyaar hain
Satya
Ajnabee
Kasoor
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| Xena |
Posted
on 07-Feb-02 09:24 AM
Hi..
Liked your choices for the movies, but have you seen kabhi kushi kabhi gaam....it's just amazing.really superb movie..you ought to have a look at this movie too...Iam sure you won't be disappointed! as always...xena
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| Nhuchche |
Posted
on 07-Feb-02 09:40 AM
Hindi movies, although entertaining, could cause severe dysfunctionality in life. Many time hindi movies play with your emotions. The said movie kabhi khushi kabhi gum does the same that too many times in the movie. What are the chances of a SUPER rich business tycoon marrying a poor girl from the slums? What are the chances that a father is willing to severe ties with his son for doing that?
Movies are built on the premise of chances - which are unlikely but possible. When these possibilities border upon one's own life as in K.K.k.G. as in we are all living in a foreign country with our families being in a different country, it creates an emotional twist, that touches us. Which I think is playing with our emotions.
Even while growing up, we watched a lot of hindi movies. Can anyone who've watched a decent amount of hindi movies deny that these movies have had an impact in their lives? That these movies have created different expectations with regards to family life, relationships, friendships, etc? How different would you have been if you hadn't grown up watching all these emotionally charged plots that slowly shape up who you are.
That's a question that I ask myself.
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| fren |
Posted
on 07-Feb-02 10:16 AM
It's not just with hindi movies, it's with any movies. Movies are not reality based. For instance, take Preety women...what is the chance of a business tycoon marrying a prostitue?
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| Nepe |
Posted
on 07-Feb-02 11:28 AM
> For instance, take Preety women...what is the
>chance of a business tycoon marrying a prostitue?
On a lighter note, pretty much. If the prostitute is Julia Roberts.
On a serious note, still pretty much. We make choices based on our perception of reward/penalty associated with it. I do not see how an independent American tycoon will see penalty in marrying a beautiful and quite different type of ‘prostitute’. On the other hand, he may see following rewards 1. Getting a beautiful, kind, loving and trustworthy young woman, 2. Getting satisfaction of rescuing a beautiful woman (note that it is not the same as rescuing an ugly woman), 3. Getting his brief yet eventful relationship have a glory and meaningfulness and a fairy tale beginning of his new life. The list could be longer. So I say there is pretty much chance that the tycoon will marry the ‘pretty woman.
The scenario in India (I haven’t seen KKKG. In fact, I haven’t any Indian movie in past several years), however, is pretty much different. The penalty will outweigh rewards.
Nepe
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| Santosh |
Posted
on 07-Feb-02 12:32 PM
Nepe:
Chances are there. I myself fell in love with a beautiful girl while a visit to India. Not to brag, our family were extremely rich compared to hers. We were talking in Karods while her family were merely talking in lakhs. Being rich everything about our family was (is) about money. Her family was different. I think it was fate that I brought us together. The Hindi movies reminds us of our past and some hope for the future.
Me and my wife currently reside in UK and yet to reconcile with my folks. I hope the time comes soon.
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| nm |
Posted
on 07-Feb-02 01:48 PM
who cares what your favourite movies are?
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| mn |
Posted
on 07-Feb-02 01:50 PM
oh really? how much you got in your wallet than, mr.rich??????????????/pls don't make us laugh.
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| limit 3 |
Posted
on 07-Feb-02 02:01 PM
hindi movies suck....I guess...cause I can never watch it all the way thru. I get bored or agitated. maybe I'm way too much influenced by english movies....you know what I mean...
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| NK |
Posted
on 07-Feb-02 02:38 PM
ugh. hindi movies? have not seen for 10 years and don't miss a bit. that tells you something, doesn't it? pathetic, song and dance and revenge and in your face villian, and then they have this need to tell their audience what is going on in the movie, like anybody can miss it! and what's up with that dance number where a protagonist is compelled to dance suddenly with two rows of extras in a excruciating outfit?? they take the audience as a fool and treat them as such. aghh. just talking about it makes me aggravated. it sucks, big time. it has not moved forward from last past 30 years. it is stuck like a broken record showing same thing over and over.
i liked Satyajit Ray's movie though. it was in bengali with english subtitle. oops gotta go to work.......
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| Nepe |
Posted
on 07-Feb-02 03:08 PM
Santosh wrote-
>Chances are there. I myself fell in love with a beautiful
>girl while a visit to India. Not to brag, our family were
>extremely rich compared to hers. We were talking in
>Karods while her family were merely talking in lakhs.
>Being rich everything about our family was (is) about
>money. Her family was different. I think it was fate that
>I brought us together. The Hindi movies reminds us
>of our past and some hope for the future.
>Me and my wife currently reside in UK and yet to
>reconcile with my folks. I hope the time comes soon.
Interesting ! Here is someone whose example defies my theory on South Asian reality. If Santosh’s story is true, it deserves a book or better a movie from Bollywood. It will save Bollywood from the cliché that it makes movies founded on unfounded fantasies.
Nevertheless I am not endorsing ‘pretty womansque’ relationship for South Asian rich kids who get inspiration from Hindi movies unless Santosh has otherwise to say.
Nepe
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| Santosh |
Posted
on 07-Feb-02 03:57 PM
Dear friends:
Just wanted to make things clear, when I said rich, I was comparing the difference amongst our families in monetary wealth, my wifes family were far much richer in heart. I left my family's wealth for my love and I do not have any regrets.
I know some other people in the same situation as me. One of the people whom I admire (as well as inspired) greatly for the sacrifice he made is from one of the most prominent family in Nepal. He married to his wife from a lower caste poor family-- before the marriage he was "in" with the business, in fact he had several companies under his name. After marriage he was fully disowned by the family. The family took losses in karodes just to make him suffer. The companies in his name were literally collapsed due to the big family's influence. Some of the lawsuits against him are still pending. When asked how he would pay over 80 lakhs thats due from the lawsuits he lost, his reply is simple. I don't have a house, I don't have any money, what can they take?
He still walks around Kathmandu, lives at a rented place somewhere in Maharajgunj, rides buses and smoke Shikhar while his brothers drive in Mercedees and Pajero. Some of you who know him know its true and most of you will have a hard time believing
Recently he was called by his father (he was in the hospital), he went and visited and still there has been no ammends. Now if in the future his father takes him back, wouldn't it be the same like a Hindi movie?
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Hindi movies are nice, its fun to watch, a lot times its predictable and its fantasy. Song and dance numbers fulfill their own purpose. Those of you who think Hindi Film as nothing but nonsense, I would like to remind you that your choice might as well be nothing but nonsense. If you look at everything in a critical way then: Are English movies any good? Opera's any good? Is Jazz any good? WWF any good? Basketball any good? and so on...
Hindi Movie provides entertainment in its own simple ways for simple unsophisticated people (unlike you), if you do not like watching hindi-movie thats fine with me but to make mockery out of those who watch, you are yourself rediculing yourself.
Thank you.
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| ke cha |
Posted
on 07-Feb-02 04:02 PM
Kabhi Khusi Kabhi Gam ! That was a pathetic movie. I got sick of all the ladies sobbing at nonsense.
One good Hindi movie that I have really liked is BOMBAY. There are probably a few more, but a good hindi movie is more an exception than a rule.
I admit that I still watch some Hindi movies becasue despite the fact that they aren't the greatest, I grew up watching them and there is something fun in watching them and making fun.
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| Dude |
Posted
on 07-Feb-02 04:19 PM
Have you seen any Nepali movei ? Who cares hindi movie...
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| Sonic |
Posted
on 07-Feb-02 07:10 PM
I watch Hindi movies for the song and dance. Who says movies have to based on "true story" or sensible? Fantasy is good.
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| ke cha |
Posted
on 07-Feb-02 07:38 PM
Oh, let's not talk about Nepali movies. They are more like home videos that anything.
Worst thing ever.
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| ya ya |
Posted
on 07-Feb-02 07:54 PM
I agree with sonic. Hindi movies are the most entertaining movies in this world. I go to watch movie to relax and entertain my mind. Songs, dance and some simple stories are lot of fun compare to other movies. I don't want to spend time by concentrating what gonna happen nest, and no time to read the book (story about the movie) before go for movie. Recently, there was news that hindi movies are getting populor in japan too, since it entertain the workers who are tired after long work hour.
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| ashu |
Posted
on 07-Feb-02 08:12 PM
Some of the dances in that Nicole Kidman-starrer "Moulin Rouge" were inspired
by Bollywood. Another Bollywood director Shekar Kapoor directed "Elizabeth"
not too long ago.
And in "Monsoon Wedding" (a likely Oscar contender this year), the former
Boston resident and film director Mira Nair pays homage to "Dilwaley Dulhania
Ley Jayange" -- a run-away Bollywood blockbuster (the way Chinese director Zhang Yimou pays homage to "Titatnic" in his love story "The Road Home").
Acting-wise, more and more Bollywood actors today are more likely to have Film School background and/or serious theater background. In the past, a few sch prominent examples were: Nasaruddhin Shah, Om Puri, Sabana Azmi, Smita Patil and so on. Om Puri, for instance, has played -- to critical success -- in a number
of Western art-house productions. He was great in "My Son the Fanatic".
Today's beautiful, glamorous and smart Bollywood actors and actresses are also more likely to have solid American college degrees. Amisha Patel, the heroine of "Ka Hona Payar hay" is a Tufts University graduate. Until a few years ago, Amitabh Bacchan's son Abhisek could be spotted around the bars at Boston University. And Times of India routinely reports of smart, articulate and successful Indian beauties giving up solid jobs at firms like Accenture, KPMG and
so on to be . . . Bollywood actresses!!
These people are not dumb.
There si something else at work here.
Surely, whether you like it or not, there seems to be this incredible vibrancy, vitality and even self-confidence surrounding the Indian movie industry today -- whether in mainstream Boollywood, or in regional-language movie industries or in what they call "auteur cinema" (the type usually associated with Satyajit Ray, Ritwik Ghatak, Shyam Benegal and so on).
In Boston, a good place to watch so-called "parallel Indian cinema" is Harvard Film Archive.
http://www.harvardfilmarchive.org/
As writer Yves Thoraval writes in his encyclopediacally entertaining "The Cinemas of India:1896-2000" (a 500-page book that makes, no offense intended, great bathroom reading), cinemas of India have always been amazingly DIVERSE --
giving platforms to lots of known and unknown talents.
Finally,as a movie-lover, I like to see all kinds of movies, and like to decide for myself why some are good, some bad and some just jhoor, khattam and
hopeless. Discussing restaurants and movies are two topics I never seem to
get tired of :-)
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| fren |
Posted
on 07-Feb-02 08:13 PM
Well the thing is movie is movie, be it Hindi, Nepali, or English. Talk about that movie with Robin Williams going to heaven and meeting his daughter there and blah blah blah. Does that happen in real life...I don't think so! It hasn't happened to me and that's where my assumption is coming from. Anyways, Hindi movie is unique, distinct and it has some flair to it. Rest of the world thinks that the songs are ghetto, crap, goofy. But, they are still sticking to their originality. I applaud them for that.
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| Bhainsi |
Posted
on 08-Feb-02 12:15 PM
as per ashu's comments, monsoon wedding cannot be considered for oscar's cos lagaan beat it to be india's submission for the foreign film category. But I have to say us Nepali people (especially those who live in Nepal) are quite hypocritical when it comes to Hindi movies. They'll make fun and say "dhoti" and stuff like that but in their heart of hearts will listen to hindi songs and go watch salman khan and madhuri dixit dance around trees. There is no harm accepting that hindi movies are really entertaining. No doubt there is a crop of really shoddy movies, but there are also very solid hindi movies. besides, i think they have gone a long way in bringing together the NRIs all over the world together. i wish the same could be said for nepali movies and kollywood (again, not suggesting there aren't good nepali movies). just my $0.2 cents
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| Kasam Paida Karne Wale |
Posted
on 08-Feb-02 02:22 PM
check this link that shows pictures of hollywood actors/actresses when they were young http://pardesh.homestead.com/hindicinema.html
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| moni |
Posted
on 09-Feb-02 09:11 AM
GUYS!!!!!!For Pete's sake,MOVIES ARE FOR ENTERTAINMENT!May it be Robin Williams meeting his daughter up there in heaven or millionaire Shahrukh marrying a damsel from the gutter or dogs and pigs talking or about life in the next 100 years or so called 'mummies' chasing live ppl's asses.That's why they're called MOVIES,...HELLOOO!!!
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| curious |
Posted
on 09-Feb-02 01:12 PM
nk,
i totally disagree with you especially if u haven't watched a hindi movie in 10 yrs. hindi movies have come a long way. try watching dil chahata hai and monsoon wedding. old ones like salaam bombay or mississippi (sp) masala. give these movies a shot. i am sure u'll like them. on that note i like satyajit ray's movies too.
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| villageVoice |
Posted
on 10-Feb-02 12:34 AM
(Hi NK)
Long time!!!
Talking about hindi movies....can't help quoting Indian cricketer Sunil Gavaskar, "Hinid movies are made by the asses for the masses." I for one never seem to have enough of our heores and heroines going round and round the trees in the park, singing, dancing, jumping...Whoever tries to make sense of two people in love anyway - and Indians at that.
Not everything around you makes sense, right. You can try. I just take them for what they are - Hindi movies meant to entertain, as Gavaskar says, one billion people. I am one of them.
That said, I was once heavy into the so called art movies, but got really tired of them after a while. Kinda too intense...too real...My own life was no less real - or interesting. It's nice - very healthy, in fact - to take a flight to an unkown world once in a while...I certainly like the dream merchants. They have made life, well, interesting. What say???
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| XoXo |
Posted
on 10-Feb-02 08:16 AM
I was surprised that nobody mentioned "Dil Chahata Hai"
DIL CHAHTA HAI is a film about these three distinct characters, their individual relationships and the effect that those relationships have on the three (Aamir Khan, Saif Ali Khan and Akshaye Khanna) of them. The performances of the three lead stars are marvellous. Even the music is refreshingly different. The makers have experimented with a new sound and it works.It is so different then other hindi movies. It's like an english film and has an urban look and feel to it and only a faction of cinegoers would take to this kind of a script.
It's a landmark film for Aamir Khan, who proves his supremacy yet again. The actor goes through this difficult role with precision and bolsters the fact that he is the best actor amongst the current lot. Saif Ali is funny and delivers his career-best performance. I think he might take a best supporting Actor award. Akshaye is good too.
Anyways, It's a cool movie. I've seen it many times and it's worth watching it!
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| Distressed |
Posted
on 10-Feb-02 03:13 PM
The real link was messed up but try the following link to find out about:
Bollywood Meets Broadway In "Bombay Dreams"
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/a/g/nm/?u
Now tell me those Bollywood naysayers and Broadway lovers aren't you just following or trying to be "west" and not realizing that no one is "really" better but its just that our lives and desires are different.
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| NK |
Posted
on 12-Feb-02 10:45 AM
(VillageVoice, kata bepatta?)
Just a quick response to your affection for hindi movie. I am ok, really no kidding, if people like these hero heroines bursting into songs with a borrowed voice. I am not among them, but I am ok if people are entertained by it. What about lack of subtelties in Hindin movies? why does everything happen to be over the top, in your face? Generally I find Hindi movies very unsophisticated, don't you think so? somebody has mentioned it has changed in last 10 years. But I did see a movie when I was in Nepal (now i rememeber. that makes it in 10 years i have seen one hindi movie)some four years ago. Kuch kuch hota hai. My sister, a great fan of hindi movies and their (actresses) great outfits dragged me to the theater. I just could not hold myself, I just burst out laughing in some (several) inopportune times. I don't remember exactly but i noticed some character (minor or major) has to come to the screen one time or another to explain what is actually happening there! And then the song. First time it was ok, even melodious - kuch kuch hota hai. Then it happened. just in case you did not notice for he first time the song was nice, they made sure you hear it and remember it by doing it 7 times at least. In slow motion, in disco rhythm, in background - i mean they did this song in every possible combination until your head start to split into many many fine pieces.
About the so called "arts" cinema. I just like to see good cinemas -independent cinema with unknown casts, a big hollywood block bluster - any cinemas. Since I have to select carefully (as we all know the time factor)where I want to spend how much time I would go only to those which I think I will like it. And most of them fall into non-mainstream. I have not seen the dream merchant. that is on my list. will get back to you.
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