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| raju |
Posted
on 07-Feb-02 04:30 PM
DEAR BROTHERS AND SISTERS
I AM JUST TRYING TO PROVE THAT MAOBADHIS ARE MOR BETTER TANTHE O CALLED NEPALI GOVERNMENT.
I FULLY SUPPORT THE MAOBADHIS BEKOZ THE MAOBADHIS HAVE A BETTRE PLAN OR NEPAL AND NEPALI.
THE NEPALI GOVERMENT NEEDS TO BE OUT OF PARLIMENT AND NEED TO KISS MAOBAHDIS ASS BECAUSEWHAT HAS THEY DONE IN THE PAST 11 YEARS??
GO TO ROLPA AD YOU WILL SEE WHAT MAOBADIS PLAN ARE FOR NEPAL AND NEPALIS IF THEY WIN. IN ROP THERE IS TELEPHONE, WATER PIPES IN EVERY HOUSE, CEAN ENVIRONMENTAND EDUCATION AND MPLOYMENT FOR ALL.
AND WHEN YU GO TO RESTFO THE NEPAL WHERE THE GOVERMENT IS CONTOLLIN ,U CAN SEE EOPLE SUFFE, NO EDUCATION, CHILDRENS WORKIN AS FARMERS ETC. IF MAOBADHIS WIN THEI STRGGLE FOR COMMUNIST STATE WE MAOBAHDIS RPOMISE YOU THAT WE WILL MAKE NEPAL LIKE SWITERZELAND OR SINGAPORE . WE WILL CHILDRENS TO SCHOLL WHER THEY BELONG, WE WILL HELP THE POORS IN VILLAGES AD WE WILL MAKE OUR LAWS STRICTER SO ONE CANNOT ENTER NEPAL AND RUIN NEPAL AS EASILY AS NYONE CAN NOW ITH HE PRESENT GOVERNMENT. THE GOVERNMENT JUST TRYS TO SHOWS THE OUTSIDE WORLD B SAYING E ARE TRYING TO ALLIVATE POVERTY, ILLETRICY BUT ITS NOT DOING ANYHTING XCEPT JUST FOOLING THE OUTSIDE WORLD AND PLAY WITH POOR NEPAIS LIVES SO RICH WILL ALWAYS BE RICH AND POOR WILL ALWAYS BE POOR.
SO WHAT WE MAOADHIS WANT IS EVERYONE TO BE SAME, E DONT WANT TO SEE ANY SUFFERING , AND MAKE NEPAL A INTERNATIONAL PLAYER MEANING PLACING NEPAL IN THE INTRNATIONAL ARENA. WE WANT TO SEE EVERYONESAME (NORICH NO POOR, ) EDUCATION FOR ALL AND WE WILL MAKE OUR ECONOMY IN THE TOP TEN OR TOP TWENTY. NEPAIS HAD ENOUGH SUFFERING AND PAIN . HOW ONG OUR PEOPLE HAVE TO SUFFER??? PLEASE THINK FOR A MINUTE AND COMPARE MAOBADHIS AND NEPAL GOVT.THANKS
JAI NEPAL AND JAI MAOBADHIS
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| limit 3 |
Posted
on 07-Feb-02 05:08 PM
eh gadha! you're full of shit, so full of it.
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| Ke cha |
Posted
on 07-Feb-02 07:12 PM
What an idiot for starting such a ridiculous topic..............brainwashed idiot.
The Maobadi plan is like the old communist plan..............make people believe in something that just doesn't work...............at least stupid people like the one that started this topic believe it.
Maobadis' action are totally contrary to what you are saying. Is murder, pillage, rape and violence part of your f.u.c.k.i.n.g grand plan for Nepal?????? you freaking a.ss.holes.
I am not saying that the Nepal govt is good. As a matter of fact, I hate every inch of ther being. But there is no way I want murderers to rule Nepal.
This freak thinks that if Maobadis come to power, the poor parts of Nepal will suddenly be bustling with development. Unfortunately no answer is immediate. If we are to develop rural Nepal, it is going to be a long and painful process. Try doing that in a constructive way and I'll give you my strength and support.
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| raju |
Posted
on 07-Feb-02 08:18 PM
ehy brother limit 3 and ke cha let me tell you a$$ holes somethin:
before you flap your mouth out here go and do some reseacrh on what maobadhis are what they are fighting for then come and flap your mouth ok.
we are not fighting for ourselves .we are fighting for the betterment of our country nd stop the suffering that nepalis hav been gong throgh for centuries .
jay nepal
jay maobadhi
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| Nepal Bhakta |
Posted
on 07-Feb-02 08:43 PM
Hello Maoist supporters,
Can you have a sustained dialogue right here in this forum about how you are going to develop NEPAL? Just saying you are going to make it into a Singapore is not enough.
Take this opportunity to explain how you are going to develop the country. How you are going to stop corruption.
If you are fighting for the betterment of the country, you must have some sort of vision on what you are fighting for. What is the end product of your fightings? What are you plans to make Nepal better?
Your honest answer is appreciated. Show us your plans if you have any. And show us how it's going to be better than it is now.
Otherwise please don't waste our time.
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| RaiderNation |
Posted
on 07-Feb-02 09:22 PM
Your thoughts are valid though a little misguided. Communism isn't the solution for the ills in Nepal. Democracy isn't at par but I still happen to think that a Westminster style parliamentary government (with or without the monarch) should be stressed on. If a nation of USSR stature couldn’t survive communism and fascism, Nepal most certainly wont. A society has to be progressive not regressive.
I, however disagree with the other view too. Declaring Maobadi terrorists was a slap on our faces. Moabadis didn’t crop overnight; the state has to assume responsibility in its creation. Since 1769, we’ve had monarchy, heredity prime ministerships, absolute monarchy, constitutional monarchy: everything albeit democracy. 90% of our population is under the poverty line. Another 5% struggle to make ends meet. The rich and the mighty have everything, the middle class is busy worrying about what they’ll lose, and the poor have nothing to lose. So the rich and the mighty control the state apparatus, the middle class want status quo and the poor become Maobadis.
People don’t revolt in a balanced and reasonable state. When living conditions become intolerable, mutiny occurs and when farmers leave farming and join the insurrectionists then the general populace has to look into what made them go that distance. The irony of our country is that 23 million people have nothing to eat and a million want them to remain that way. Maobadi is not a political struggle; it’s an economic struggle. Declaring them terrorist, who’s making fun of whom? Nango chati ra bhoko pet ma rastriyata jalkadaina.
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| The Deputy |
Posted
on 07-Feb-02 10:40 PM
Let me say that this is the first time I am visiting this site. And also that I am not a supporter of Maobadi but I am completely against the so called constitutional monarchy as well.
I can understand why most people are against the first posting. I also feel that the 'raju' lacks a proper judgement of what's going on.
May be the Maoists have made Rolpa the Singapore of Nepal. But they didnt do it without hurting someone else. Do you know how many people, banks they looted? I guarantee that if you use all the budget of America for the Nepalese, you'll be able to make Nepal better than America. But how about rest of the world? The principle of Maoism doesnot concern the development process. Rather, it has to do with "the rural and the proleteriates taking controll of the urban bourgoeis(sp?). During that process, awareness among the proleteriats is essential. Now...the maoists should have crated the awareness program thru education--not abduction and mass murder of people. Maoist revolution can never succeed unless the have-nots do not support them. And who are these have nots? Most of us, the Nepelese.including the families of the lower level army and police.The following is a list of deductions I have made from the analysis of the present war:
1.the maoists are never going to win the war. if they do, there will be another war pretty soon(i might be one of the rebels then).
2. Who will loose from the war--the poors and especially the families of the lower army,and police officers and the maoist fighters. Raju, you need to understand that your Pranchada or Baburam will never lose even if maoists have to leave the field first. Also, if you win the war Deuba or Girija wont loose anything. Like your leaders, they too have sufficient bank account to construct a building in Switzerland. It is people like you and me who'll loose the war!! you'll loose because you are in a illusion and you'll support the maoists till your last breadth hoping the pie-in-the-sky would fall in your hand. Your attitude will further "longivate"(this is my own word--makes sense here) the war compelling the govt to divert more resources towards security. Remember, this money could have been used to make a "badh" in your "khet". I'll loose because I am poor too and despite my opposition to maoism, the maoists take 50% of my brothers income. Let me tell you that my brother who works his ass off to feed 7 mouths in the family doesnot affort to give Nrs2000 a month to bastards who kill the lower level army officers. Longer the war goes, more he will have to pay.
3. It is high time that we realise our situation, work towards annointing the war by not supporting the maoists but at the same time not supporting the king either. I know removing the monarchy will take a long time but remember, it is equally essential to have right to speak as to go to school. As long as there is monarchy in Nepal, it will never be democratic. The constitution doesnot permit anyone to speak against the monarchy, every bill has to be red-shielded by this f****** pig--making his living out of our hard earned money--before it is implemented, it is just causing an impediment in the development. Why give this b****rd a luxury if he doesnot allow the elected govt to act, in time, to maintain security in the country?
4. Elites need to cooperate with each other. We need a 24-year old new educated priminister and people like us who can work sleeping only 6 hours a day. Elites need to be in power. No matter how democratic we might claim to be, we'll never be so as long as the same leader-by-jail-experience people keep coming to the power. Let them inaugrate the toilet-opening ceremony, let them be the chief guest wherever they want to be..but let us be the planners..
For this we need to see the bitter realities in Nepal, get involved in loal politics and gradually build a foundation for a better tomorrow.
Instead of cursing the someone else, let us give what we can. Lets make little contributions to our society. Lets learn to be optimistic about the future of Nepal and help those more frustrated than us.
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| raju |
Posted
on 08-Feb-02 09:26 AM
bro the deputy i strongly stronlgy agree with you and appreciate and value what you are saying. thnaks.
brother give us a chance to prove that we will develope our country. look at rolpa , we have made it singapore of nepal and we promise we will ake nepal come out of the turmoil.
but we cant do so until we get the parliment and change the constitution. you know what the constitution say now? "it says poor people should always suffer and rich should always be rich and there should be caste in every part of society. look at the poor dalits people of nepal. their childrens cant go to education due to poverty, government , society and casteism. so these dalits people try to rase their voice but the government just turn its back on them. the govt says we will introduce a bill in parliment for dalits and they do shit. even if the bill is passed the law is not forced properly. what have the government done for the betterment of the dalits and poor people of nepal in the last 11 years of democracy??? richer people have got more richer and poor people are getting more poor.
and to see our own nepalese brothers and sister suffer like thi it absolutely breaks our maobadhis hearts. we want a clean environment for our children ,education, goodhealth , as do all of the parents towards their parents. dont you want your children to live in good environment with any voilence , with education etc??
nepals population doesnt exceed 12 million people. all the others are dhotis who are coming from india from the open border so we wil close the border and make stricter laws to protect our border and the soverginity of nepal.
when ever we try to hold talks with the govt the govt doesnt agree on something like shanging the constitution so everyone can be treated the same. we need the constitution to be changed before we can go to other round of talks but look who is turning whose back.
and lastly whats is monarchy doing for the bettement of our country?? just eationg poor nepalis money and living a life better than bush or clinton. when ever we come in pwoer no one will be rich, no one will be poor, everyone will get eduction, employment, food , health care, and we will strictly guard our borders for any illegal traffiking of childrens as sex slaves in india and we will not let any one in nepal like they come from the open border now and make nepal filthy . dirty, and take nepali people hard worked and earned money by looting .
we will take them in as tourist and after their visas expire tey will either return back or we will track them and deport them.
so dear nepalese brothers and sisters these are some of our plan to improve the living conditions of nepal and cut the suffering of the nepalese that they have been going through for centuries.
jai nepal
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| Khume |
Posted
on 08-Feb-02 10:24 AM
E raju,
wake from the dream man....are you trying to break the grand old record of kumnhakarna by a huge margin to secure your position as of a always dreamer or what? your posting is full of nonsesne. you have made rolpa a singapore of nepal? what do you mean? have you ever been to singapore, bro? Don't throw dust to other fellow citizens' eys man. I was recently in Rolpa, that poor place sucks big time...people are poorer, more scared with sick maobadis than with police or army. they hesitate to tell the truth. they are always under the pressure of maobadis. community service, donation, work exchange, community feast...and all kind of maobadis' extravaganza make their life horrible. Do you want to turn the entire nation into your model freaking rolpa? have you been to rolpa, bro? i doubt. if you were you probably won't have come here to praise rolpa as a singapore of nepal. i bet either you have not been to singapore or to rolpa. you have been to both places and still argue that rolpa is like singapore then you probably are one of the most screwed up people.
in the name of janabad...you are killing janata? you advocate for poor people and look who are you targeting? a haldar? a jamdar? a khardar? don't you mofos see mantris and other big shot corrupt mofos?
you loot poor peoples' money from bank (you ass**** know nepal has no FDIC, don't you?) and claim that the loot is for poor people?
on one thing i agree with you. this so called f**** democracy shit and it's mofos thekedars are worse than chor panches...this congresse, communiste are like chor mathi chakar....Nepal has gone worse from bad in the past 10/11 years. the sys. needs a complete overhaul but maobadis for the betterment of nepal? gimme a break! no mo....fu*****way!
you have no plan but just the rosy outcome picture......go sell your dreams to rolpali...tell them if you get a chance to rule every rolpali will have an apartment in singha durbar and tea party in tudikhel garden.....full of shit...
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| ke cha |
Posted
on 08-Feb-02 11:36 AM
If a bunch of murderers like you Maobadis ever come to power, I will take up arms against you.
Mr. Raju Idiot, don't give me that nonsense of you don't know anything and do some research crap. I am from a village and am very aware of the conditions. And yes, I don't like what the government stands for right now. But, I believe that in due time that will begin to change.......there's hope.
Maobadis- how can you preach what you don't practise.
You insult my intelligence by giving me those b.ulls.hit arguments. I am very capable of knowing what is good and bad for my country. (The only thing I feel sad about is that at one point I actually though Mabadis might have good intentions- what a load of c.rap that was).
Maobadi will always equal violence. If you freaks were so well intentioned then why didi you refuse to come to mainstream politics when everyone was willing to let your past crimes past. You could have won an overwhelming majority and changed the constitution at your will!!! The truth is that most nepalis have seen you for the s.cumbags that you are.
Don't give me that Jai Nepal s.hit.
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| raju |
Posted
on 08-Feb-02 02:37 PM
ok if you dont like the maobadhis and you dont like the government. then who the f*** you like?
maobadhis a**?
timi haroo lai maobadhi ke ho bhanni kehi tha chaina ani afno mukh banda garera basa na ta feri. kina barking ?
why dont you fookers who are barking at maobadhis plan to betterment our country nepal , put an end to our nepalese citizens from pain and suffering go and do something insted of sitting here and drinking ?
at least we are trying ? what are u khates doing?? you just go to bidesh and say oh forget nepal because we are not in nepal. why dont you khates come back here to nepal and do something and let us see what u cunning p****s can do.
you go to bidesh and forget what kind of hardships and dukhas we have to go through in nepal.
you nepalis in america and western world are too americanized and to westernized.
timi haroo lay saab dukha ke ho bhanni kura birseuw?
why is it that we are taking up arms insted of political mainstream??? because the govt is turning its back on us and we have no hope now except fight against the govt.
jay nepal
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| khume |
Posted
on 08-Feb-02 03:30 PM
Raju,
why don't you lousy abhagi creature understand that you need to wake up. in your
nepali world only two despicable forces exist one being the pathetic govt. and the other your stinky maobad. there are other alternatives, too. obviously, you are the one kissing maobadis' as***. i know you too will be sick of them when baurame and pushpe ride your full-of-self-esteem ass to the power, if your comrades ever got that chance. male emale(uml) used to talk the same way before 1990. now all those khates are bhates now. those goddamn mps and ministers who don't even ahve a meter of motorable roads in their districts need f***pajero. Until, yesterday those khates didn't even have money to pay rent in ktm. now have palace looking gauthali gund (prashrite). Give your high ranking comrades and supremo a chance to ride the buldozer of power, they will run over you shattering your dreams and whip your dreamy a***and then you will come to your sesnses..
maobad? k yatrako maobad? khana napayeka bhoka kukkur haruko gang...
quit your pissed maobad and talk something sensible so we can talk...else go back to your singapore, rolpa.
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| Santosh Neupane |
Posted
on 10-Feb-02 05:50 PM
Raju,
I don't know wheather you are posting these messages in here just to see the responses or not but if you are talking seriously and if you understand the politics(sounds like you think you know it) then just tell me one thing without any if and else. If you think that you are doing good for peoples then why don't you just go for the election, have a 2/3 majority(you can certainly do it, if you are there for the good of the people and if people trust) and change the constitution or end monarchy or whatever you think is best for the country.
Now, if you don't have a guts to come to the election, that means you know people are not for you and your maoist plan.
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| daju |
Posted
on 10-Feb-02 09:12 PM
" Mr. Raju Idiot, don't give me that nonsense of you don't know anything and do some research crap. I am from a village and am very aware of the conditions. And yes, I don't like what the government stands for right now. But, I believe that in due time that will begin to change.......there's hope "
MAN, WAKE UP, LOOK AROUND, THERE'S NO HOPE.
” If you freaks were so well intentioned then why didi you refuse to come to mainstream politics when everyone was willing to let your past crimes past. You could have won an overwhelming majority and changed the constitution at your will!!! “
WHAT MAINSTREAM ? WHERE GIRIJA, KHUME, GRJ, MAKUNE, GYANE, PARASE ARE SWIMMING ? THAT’S NO MAINSTREAM, THAT’S SEWER, THAT’S GUHU KO NALI, THAT’S TUKUCHA, MAN.
“ maobad? k yatrako maobad? khana napayeka bhoka kukkur haruko gang...”
YAP, THEY ARE. WHAT’S WRONG WITH THAT ? DON’T TELL ME YOU BELONG TO THE AGHAEKA CHOR KUKUR HARUKO GANG.
“If you think that you are doing good for peoples then why don't you just go for the election, have a 2/3 majority(you can certainly do it, if you are there for the good of the people and if people trust) and change the constitution or end monarchy or whatever you think is best for the country. “
YOU DUMB, YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. A 2/3 MAJORITY IN THE PARLIAMENT CAN NOT END MONARCHY. GO READ CONSTITUTION.
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| ujeli |
Posted
on 11-Feb-02 08:17 AM
Raju Please think hard about what you are trying to preach here. Maobadi views are good but the way they are fighting this war is definitely not going to lead them anywhere. The way they are killing people and destroying national property will not be tolerated by anyone. They are taking away what is left of Nepal. Destroying communication lines, airport towers, looting bank will only deteriorate Nepal economy further down the hill. Did you see the Nepali Issue of Himal magazine? The picture of dead man tied to the tree just broke my heart. What good are maobadi's if they are going to drag teachers out of the classroom in front of his students and kill him brutally? What exactly they are trying to prove by killing innocent people? Do they ever think about how this will affect the students? Is this what we want our children to grow up with? Why are they taking their anger out on the poor people who are already battered by the harsh realities of life? How can they justify their acts? So many questions and I have no answer.
Maobadi did start with good intention for the country and then lost their track along the way. All of the sudden killing and looting was just another thrill for them. It was not about people’s war anymore. People like Babu Ram Bhattarai and Prachanda are not losing anything from this. I bet they are enjoying a lavish life and eating good food while poor people are being killed as terrorist. Who are these terrorists? It hurts us too see that these people are so brainwashed that they are willing to give up their life. No matter who wins this war Nepalese people will end up losing. Right now we are in need of strong leadership. We need a leader who is not power and money hungry and who has a true intentions for the betterment of Nepal. My heart weeps for my motherland who right now is caught between rock and a hard surface
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| YoYo |
Posted
on 11-Feb-02 11:44 PM
From his writings, it is obvious that Raju is a naive young boy (or pretending to be so) who wants nothing but good for his country. Just because he presented his ideas in a crude and unsophisticated form with ample amount of childish naivety, other wannabe political Pundits should not dare to self-promote their own naivety and jundiced prejudice against Maoists. An unbiased criticism is a different thing, however.
Ujeli, your patronizing tone gives sense that you don’t have a sole agenda of defaming Maoists like a bunch of some blinds who give sudden appearance in this site to scribe one-line gali-galauj and then disappear. However, you sound like a naive who is too much influenced by pro-government media or miseducated about Maoists. You are right when you criticize loss of life and property of our nation happened or done by Maoists. But if you do not see in what context these sad things are happening, you are not right. If you do not see what our government is doing (you don't know what it is meant by mobilizing army and declaring emergency !), you are not right. If you do not see what in the first place made Maoists to go into this war, you are not right. You are free to hate Maoists if you feel like, but don't try to make this silly attempt to portray them as having no agenda other than killing and destroying the country. Don’t pretend not knowing who is destroying and looting this country. Don’t pretend not knowing what Maoists are fighting, jyan ko baji lagayera, for. They are fighting to bring monarchy-free democracy. If you don’t like that, it’s your freedom of thought. But don’t dare to tell that they have no right to do that.
Yes, Maobadi did start with good intention for the country and then have never lost their track along the way. They are firm in their determination to free our country from the grip of monarchy. Again, don’t misunderstand it, they are against monarchy, not just against a person. A person can be good or bad for some time or always or for certain things or for everything. Therefore a good king does not justify monarchy, nor a bad politician makes democracy invalid. If Maoists praised Birendra for a few things, you must understand they praised his person, not the system itself, not the monarchy. It is ridiculously funny when some anti-maoists try to prove Maoists having contradictory stands based on that. Nobody in this country is more clear in their goal, firm in their determination and smart to feel the heart beat of the time than Maoists. They are shrewd, they are focused, they are clear, they are determined, they have unshakable faith, they have can-do attitude, they are good strategist, and most important of all, they don’t love our country a bit less than raja and other elected leaders. If you have no problem trusting the king and these politicians, why do you wonder other have no problem trusting Maoists ?
If BRB wanted nothing but to have a lavish life, he could have put KBK, GRJ and name any other corrupt leaders, to shame. Don’t serve me this crap telling their wish for lavish life. Have you ever met a underground activist ? Heard their story ? Certainly you need a dose of a first hand story of them to correct your vision.
Maoists have certainly done some errors, made mistakes, taken some excessive measures. What do you expect in a real revolution ? Revolution is not like a wedding ceremony of a prince, if you thinking so.
Peaceful way ? Gandhibadi tarika ? Can anybody think that monarchy can be thrown away by series of Kathmandu bandha, Nepal bandha and black-outs ? If yes, there is no reason for Maoists not to throw away their arms tomorrow.
So long as you have reason to have monarchy, there is no reason for maoists to question their relevance in the country.
So long as there is no monarchy as agenda on the table, there is no reason for maoists to think twice to walk away from the talk. If you want your monarchy, its not free, it costs. There is no free lunch and there is no free monarchy. The sooner you realize, the better it is for the country.
YoYo
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