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| garibnepali |
Posted
on 08-Feb-02 12:23 AM
Anybody wanna guess who is top 10 ghusiyaa in Nepal
1) Suryabahadur thapa
2)Girija koirala
3)Ramsharan Mahat (remember his bank account in NY bank?)
4)GRJ (I don't think I need to mention)
5).....
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| Huri |
Posted
on 08-Feb-02 12:38 AM
Besides the politicians.....
1. Deep Basnet (former chief of the customs. Madbadhi businessmens' favourite).
2. Lok Man Singh Karki (former D.G. of the customs, linked to Mafia).
3. Khagendra Basnet (former secretary of the civil aviation, who I heard once took 2 corer as a bribe. He is the elder brother of Deep Basnet).
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| Ghusyaha |
Posted
on 08-Feb-02 07:47 AM
Just adding on to the list:
Bijay Kumar Gachhedar (arabaun ko sampatti)
Jalanath Khanal
Mainali bandhuharu
Can you imagin one punlic servent of HMG has $1.2 Million in a foreign bank?
Unbelievable !! God save the country !
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| Yup it's me |
Posted
on 08-Feb-02 12:42 PM
Deep Basnet, Khagendra Basnet???????????? My goodness, I know them. If they are hung tomorrow in Tundikhel, will I be able watch the ramita? Will I throw up? Will I rejoice? Who knows. Who knows.
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| same old me |
Posted
on 08-Feb-02 12:46 PM
Make it "if they are hanged" not "hung."
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| JackAss |
Posted
on 08-Feb-02 01:22 PM
The first time I went to get my citizenship card made, I did not bribe anybody.... I almost had a fight with the dhaka topi wala. He used to take files from one desk to the other and mofo was slower than a snail..I ended up going back home without a card. I was very pissed, decided not to get the card made but that was not an option coz I wanted to come to the U.S. and citizenship card is required to get the passport made. After several months, i went back to the AnamNagar office and that assfuk was there, shining his ugly face amidst 25 saddened applicants. I got through all the processes within an hour, of course I gave him some money to do that. The only time I had to bribe a retard who wouldn't move without Ruppess bait. He is the biggest ghush khaa that I know and I hate him.
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| inSearchOf |
Posted
on 08-Feb-02 02:48 PM
How about top 10 Nepali Ghushya currently in US? Anybody know Narayan Shrestha from Boulder Colorado?
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| golmal |
Posted
on 08-Feb-02 03:00 PM
>How about top 10 Nepali Ghushya currently in
>US? Anybody know Narayan Shrestha from
>Boulder Colorado?
I heard he has a business in colorado... let us know more...
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| SIWALIK |
Posted
on 08-Feb-02 03:03 PM
We should have a permanent corner in this forum for this kind of exposure. As "Taat" suggested registered users should then be allowed to post about the corruption against the culprits. We might even have to make a category based on time frame, regions, or magnitude of corruption they are involved in. We can discuss the detail on the best way to start this process. Personal testimonies are crucial. This might even increase the number of registered users.
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| serfer |
Posted
on 08-Feb-02 03:30 PM
The most corrupt guy is Girija Prasad Koirala, with Krishna Prasad Bhattarai a close second.
Why?
Girija, Girija Putri, et al, have not only amassed a great wealth, as the Nepali Congress Prime Minister (taking office repeatedly) and party president, he is singularly responsible for the biggest decline in country's - economic fundamentals, law and order situation.
Forger WB and IMF aid, look at the statistics, the number of poor people in the country has actually gone up in the last one year. Koirala, short-sighted that he is, once said, when he was Prime Minister, "Everyone's complaining about bikas bhayena. Ma yek dinma katti ota oodghatanma janchhu. (I inaugurate so many new things everyday?!).
What do you expect from him. But yes, we elected him, did we not. We can't run away from that. K. Bhattarai is bad too. These too, and UML leaders to a great extent, are eating into vitals of our society.
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| serfer |
Posted
on 08-Feb-02 03:33 PM
pls read number of poor people...in the last 10 years. Not one year
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| kale |
Posted
on 08-Feb-02 03:43 PM
garibnepali Posted on 02-08-02 12:23 AM Reply | Notify Me
nybody wanna guess who is top 10 ghusiyaa in Nepal
1) Suryabahadur thapa
2)Girija koirala
3)Ramsharan Mahat (remember his bank account in NY bank?)
4)GRJ (I don't think I need to mention)
5).....
garinepali,
How could u blame Dr mahat's account was from GHUSHYA money. For ur kind information dear, he used to make almost $100k per year at UNDP head quater at NY and Pakistan.
Having bank account of $45k at NY is not surprise money, he had been making almost $100k for 5-6 years. And that balance was there before he had quit UNDP job to go to poltics.
don't u feel bad urself to call somebody Ghushya with false reason.
I know him well, he is very good and straight guy. Go his office or home and talk abt giving him Ghush, he will kick u out. He did not go nepal for money, he already had enough money.
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| Horizon |
Posted
on 08-Feb-02 04:10 PM
Kale,
You are right, Dr. Mahat's $$$$$ was white money. The only problem was that he couldn't maintain account in foreign currency outside the country and had to declare the foreign currency within a month or two of arrival which he didn't do. Now this is wrong especially being the finance minister, both legally and morally. I must say that he is comparatively better than other leaders though.
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| gorey |
Posted
on 08-Feb-02 05:53 PM
He is not ghusiya, but if u remember, he discouraged foreign investment when in fact he had saved some $$$$ in a New York Bank. Isn't that contradictory or what? Also, he hid this fact from the government.
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| HahooGuru |
Posted
on 08-Feb-02 05:59 PM
Its time to switch to USERGROUPS on Corruption topic. So, that
we will not be discussing the same topic repeatedly, but, also
make it easier for backups in future under this topic. Thanks to
the fellow who created this USERGROUPs.
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| Digital Maniac |
Posted
on 08-Feb-02 09:25 PM
My list will include the following:
1. Mr. Ashutosh Tiwari: He has taken GHUSH from Harvard School of Don't know what. His only argument seems to end up in the risk/reward of anything. His scholarship can be viewed as GHUSH for flourishing the AMERICAN Agenda which Mr. Ashutuosh has been doing with all his flandering posting.
2. Mr. Hahoo whoever that is: It is not clear what sort of outcome the GHUSH givers expected from Mr. Hahoo. His agenda has been unclear at most of the times and limited to crazy ideas. The GHUSH givers might have ceratainly felt the misuse of their GHUSH, however, they are still pouring in their GHUSH to protect their investments so far.
3-10. There are other GHUSH khoris (hard to name due to indistinct results from the GHUSH) who seem to supporting Mr. Ahsutosh or Mr. Hahoo to fulfill their masters desires.
Ghush can be in many forms, Ghush can be taken or given even without realization. The Marwadi community were best in Nepal when they would play cards with Government Beaurocrats who refused GHUSH. They would loose knowingly and make them indebted. I am sure you catch my wiff in regards to Mr. Ashutosh and Mr. Hahoo.
Lets hear your points of views GHUSHKHORES!
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| HahooGuru |
Posted
on 08-Feb-02 10:59 PM
In Japanese, Digital Maniac will be called as "kawai so desu ne",
looking at the anger he pours on Ashutosh and HahooGuru.
Taking revenge against those who were telling
Govinda Raj Joshi, a former head
master turned home minister turned Arabpati in Nepali currency,
as the Nepal's Number One Ghushyaha. GRJ is the first number
one ghusyaha who took money from 10000s of Nepalis, and
still DM claims GRJ clean.
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| kale-goray-fafoo |
Posted
on 09-Feb-02 08:25 AM
1)Why so much talk of ghushkhoris? In the last two decades, there have been scandals after scandals, both small and bigs, raking the shaky economy of the country. I do not think anyone is made to return the money they stole. They simply lost the job but came back later in another form to suck the country again.
Interestingly, if you examine carefully who has been prosecuted and who has served the jail term, it is clear that jail terms are reserved only to the people belonging to a certain ethic groups. Why? Excepting a certain ethnic groups, who have no one to hang on to, rest of the ghuskhoris and their families are still intertwined in this family or that family due to a caste factor,marriage or sharing of wealth, who are always in power. No matter who comes to the power, no matter which government comes to power, you alwyas have someone to look after you.
2)Why list only top ten ghuskhoris? They are already known to all. If your parents, relatives, or friends are involved in "ghush eating or giving", start right with them. Even more importantly, if you received a scholarship, a job or a visa through the undue influence of your natedars or ghush, denounce it first. This holier than thou attitude is not taking us anywhere. Talk of ghushkhori is cheap; action is hard when it involves you and your natedars. Let's clean it up first right from where it began and where it is still thriving.
3)Leave Ram Sharan Mahat alone sor far it comes to his sin of having a foreign bank account. He fell into the trap and had to pay for it. That is fine. However, his deposit in a foreign bank was from a clean source; he had earned it through a fair means.
4)Lastly, currently the country is being raked by the fake certificate walas. Many of the decisions were made or implemented by these fake certificate holders who are at the decision making levels. Many of the students were taught, or still being taught, by these fake certificate holding educators. When most things are fake, where is the fate of the country?
I know with power --came the fake, or vice versa, and preserved and protected the fakes and their interest. Why isn't a serious debate going on about these fake certificate holders and ways to ensure to keep these fakes away in the future? These are moths which have been eating the very root of the country's economy and stability.
Has the time changed so much that we need to revise the dibyopdesh to: "Ghush linya ra dinya bhanya dubai desh ka param mitra hoon...?"
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| ashu |
Posted
on 09-Feb-02 09:23 AM
Hi Digital Maniac,
My grandfather tells me that Ashutosh in Sanskrit means: one who is
quickly made happy.
And so, after having read your above posting, I am 'quickly made happy'
that your sajha.com login name of Digital Maniac is so well-deserved.
That said, ladies and gentlemen, in a few days, Nepal's well-known
anti-corruption crusader Mr. Bharat Jangam MAY well join our
sajha.com network to lend support/credence to our various,
disparate anti-corruption postings.
Whether you like him or not, Mr. Jangam already IS a full-time anti-corruption crusader in Nepal. And so, it's time we got to know him and his ideas/arguments better to understand this scourge called corruption better. I have also contacted a couple of people at Transparency International - Nepal Chapter to come here and share with us what TI is doing to combat corruption in Nepal.
Stay patient, and stay tuned for more at your favorite Web site: sajha.com
oohi
"one who is quickly made happy"
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| eager |
Posted
on 09-Feb-02 01:54 PM
Can't wait to read Mr. Jangham and TI's report!!
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| SIWALIK |
Posted
on 09-Feb-02 02:23 PM
Ashu: Thanks for that information on Mr. Jangam's crusade. I would like to hear his input. I would be willing to team up in that effort once I return to Nepal. I sure would appreciate if I can find any report that he might have brought out.
On a different note, I recently attended a panel discussion on Argentine crisis. Here are the points that were highlighted as plausible reason:
1. Overvalued peso: fixed rate of one-to-one convertibility to dollar. When dollar value went up, so did the peso. export and revenue declined, deficit in public expenditure ballooned. More bonds were issued, but international crisis and Brazilian devaluation sucked the wind off its sail. Capital flight to more secure market. Pessimist consumer lined up at the banks to withdraw their deposit.
2. Marginalization of large section of population by the political process, especially the senior citizens. Argentina's youth are fleeing abrad and the country is burdened with long-living senior citizens (something in US future, too).
3. Rampant corruption: Heard this term first in that panel; Argentina, where the corruption is a tourist attraction.
4. Failure to see the political cost, i.e. high salary of bureaucrats who produced nothing--i.e. just lazing at work and collecting pay checks. This created a perverse system of incentives rewarding not hard work but lazy asses
5. High social expenditure, i.e. 40 percent of the budget, equivalent to Switzerland but without the accompanying service.
6. Total disrespect for private property.
7. Transfer of wealth from poor citizens to middle and upper class by way of public institutions, e.g. public universities...
I believe these are all forms of corruption one way or the other. Not all currupt practices are direct as bribes. It is the hidden corruption that eats away the fabric of our societies and nations. We do not even understand these hidden evils and we end up targetting the obvious.
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