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| HahooGuru |
Posted
on 12-Feb-02 06:55 PM
PM’s resignation sought at CWC meeting
KATHMANDU, Feb 12 - About half a dozen members of the ruling Nepali Congress party’s Central Working Committee Monday demanded the resignation of Prime Minister Sher Bahadur Deuba at the party’s CWC meeting.
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The corruption wagon lead by Girija (and his daughter on the back ground)
and his associates like Govinda Raj Joshi, has now come to standstill.
Like addicted smackists in Nepal, crawl for another pop of Smack
Smoke, and when they don't get it on right time, they keep on
crawling and finally, do any thing for Pop of Smacks. They become
crazy, and rule out all ethics, all laws, and become violent and
mad in the society finally, commiting a crime. (I had seen one
such guy who stole my Shoes in one night and caught while taking
it to sell it. The same guy stole many bycicles, shoes, clothes...
I mean they get crazy).
Similarly, the Girija and Govinda Gang (I heard Govinda Raj Joshi
's compartment has 12 corrupt MPs lead and fed by GRJ), they
are suffering from the sickness of Money Vending Powerlessness.
You can smell from this news posted at KOL.com . Girija
was the same guy who allowed Maoist supporter students to
vandalize nations school and close for cont. 5 days, and he spoke
not a single word. He is the one to bring country into mess. He
is the one who was silent for the problems and misusing it for his
own personal benefits. He tried to keep his eyes closed to make
peoples feel that country had no problems, like the one that
had 5 days cont. school shutdowns. He exploited for all his
benefits. Some even say that his right man Govinde
(1 of the most corrupt man in Nepal) once tried to illude peoples
that he was target of Maoists, when his Pakka Rato Ita ko ghar ko
gate was fired. Shame on you Girija. Among The CWC members
appointed by yourself are almost 90% BS categories of people
who are your bhada ka tattu, who can speak and do anything
for you. It will not be surprising to us to find your gang passing
some Agenda against Deoba through CWC because you can nominate
50% (i.e. 18?) CWC members out of 37? by yourself as President
of NC. I have not seen anyone better person from those 18 nominated
peoples by you except, Sher B. Deoba. I feel very sorry that
Deoba is the only one whom you appointed because of pressure,
if possible, you wanted to avoid him too. You are real BS in Nepali
politics, you are the one who created all this messup and
worst situations. Shame on you and your gang-bangs.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 12-Feb-02 07:20 PM
Hahooguruji:
Congress is moving in a vicious self-destructive circle and is claiming that it is
moving ahead.Imagine Govinda Joshi accusing others of being corrupt, and Khum
Bdr Khadka defending the charge!
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| Distressed |
Posted
on 12-Feb-02 08:31 PM
Kangress are Paangress? What about UML? Diplomatic relations with the West they are far behind Kangress. Do they have the kahunas to change Nepal? Will Maoist problem be better if UML comes to power-- some of the current maoists leaving their friends to join with UML in the hopes of betterment?
Its well understood that UML are no saints (but its hard to say they are exactly like Kangress either), but will Nepal be better off than now or worse? Any inputs?
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| ashu |
Posted
on 13-Feb-02 06:14 AM
PM’s resignation sought at CWC meeting
KATHMANDU, Feb 12 - About half a dozen members of the
ruling Nepali Congress party’s Central Working
Committee Monday demanded the resignation of Prime
Minister Sher Bahadur Deuba at the party’s CWC
meeting.
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Well, if Nepal were a company, the Congress CWC would
see itself as the Board of Directors with a mandate to ask the
CEO (i.e. PM) to resign.
But Nepal is NOT a company.
And Congress CWC members are NOT members akin to some
company's Board of Directors with a mandate to fire the CEO.
In fact, and this is a point many people never seem to
take seriously, this Congressi CWC is not even a
Constitutionally valid entity.
Legally, it has a bogus standing, and historically it has created
NOTHING but mischief and unstability, internal
quarrels in all the wrong places and for all the wrong
reasons and basically WEAKENING the parliamentary
system.
In other words, CWC is where a little bit of
Panchayati self lives in every so-called democratic
political party in Nepal.
So, look what they are doing now -- asking Deuba to
resign.
If Deuba is to be removed, why not let the voices of
opposition come in the Parliament, from the elected
MPs of the Lower House? After all, it's them the MPs
who elected Deuba to be the PM, no?
And why should we, ordinary voters, even care about
these Central Working Commitees?
Did we elect the CWC people?
No.
Are they accountable to us -- the janata?
No.
Did CWC even elect the PM?
No. He was elected by the MPs, (some of whom are CWC members)
So, who are the CWC people accountable to?
To their Party leader, Girija, who -- surprise, surprise -- has
filled half the seats in the CWC with his own
chamchas.
And so, it boggles my mind to see these these
CWC-wallahs (GRJ, Khum Bdr, and so on) being so
powerful . . . beyond the reach of the law and
normal parliamentary procedures.
This is -- the whole idea of CWC -- is what is WRONG and ROTTEN
in our democracy.
In light of this, I am convinced that for Nepali
democracy to get better, CWCs need to be abolished
once and for all.
The abolition of CWC will create an open field for
competition for top leadership, and there is some
chance that good leaders will emerge, trying to be
more accountable to the MPs, and by extension to
the janata.
Else, thanks to this secret, cabalistic CWC, Nepali
Congress ko leader for now is Girija . . . and then
Sujata (she'll be in CWC before she becomes an MP) . . . . and
then perhaps Sujata's daughter and so on and on.
This brings me back to my earlier point.
That so-called Central Working Commitees are the roots
of all evil in Nepali democracy.
The sooner they are eradicated from our political landscape, the sooner
we can actually implement the basics of of good governance. As they
stand, making use of perverse incentive schemes, CWCs serve NO positive function in Nepal.
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| Nepe |
Posted
on 13-Feb-02 05:24 PM
I agree with Ashu's view that CWC of parties have become antithesis of democracy in Nepal and I don't think anybody will disagree on this 'gham jastai chharlanga kura'. But I am not clear about how they can be abolished from our political landscape. An organized political party will always have a central leadership or CWC for that matter. So we can not eradicate CWC without eradicating the party itself.
If, on the other hand, it is about bringing forth new constitutional/legal provision to regulate them such that either they have to be accountable and/or their power do not have power to interfere the government, then it probably possible at least theoretically.
Or else, are we talking about Presidential system ? In that case, at least the president (ok prime minister) will have his own team working without fear of the sword/whip of CWC.
Or I am too naïve here ?
Nepe
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 13-Feb-02 06:37 PM
Yep.
CWCs in Nepal take themselves more seriously than required. That's the reason
why rejected, unbalanced people like Shailaja dare to ask an elected PM to resign.
You can't abolish CWCs. But CWC shouldn't think itself as an entity which can
control popularly elected leaders. People, and parliament should be THE place
to decide on people's future, not sequestered meetings of some crazy bunches.
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| ashu |
Posted
on 14-Feb-02 12:04 AM
With so much unaccountable power to play with, there is NO way CWC people
are just going to reform themselves and defer to normal, democratic
parliamentary procedures.
They just are not.
Let's not fool ourselves on this.
In Nepal, as things stand, to have real political power that you can visibly thump and assert, it's NOT enoughto be a ma-mooli elected MP.
You have to be a member of the CWC of your respective political party.
Else, you don't count as a heavyweight. One added benefit of being a CWC member is that you can be as corrupt as Satan himself, but you get pretty
much full immunity/protections through God-knows-where and what political/legal provisions.
Given such a sweet deal, which (corrupt) neta in his right frame of mind would
not want/yearn/crave to be in CWC FOREVER?
And so, MPs be damned; it's the CWCs that rule the roost, often -- as we have seen -- to disastrous results as far as democracy, for the people and for the nation are concerned.
Solution?
Let the PM -- whoever s/he might be -- have the full power, and let him be accountable ONLY and ONLY to the Members of the Parliament, who, in turn are
to be made directly accountable to their respective voters.
With this ravan-like head called CWC cut off (i.e. abolished, destroyed and so on), the rest of the political bodies will survive even more and prosper in many ways. And MPs can direct their attention to the voters without having to kowtow to
CWC bigwigs.
After all, what should have been a ceremonially advisory body (i.e. CWC) without teeth is having too much power to abuse to serve its own interests.
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| GP |
Posted
on 14-Feb-02 12:36 AM
Ashu, who is going to hang the bell?
Layman Simulation:
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CWC peoples pay money to bring their voters
(party cadres) to election booths, as it happened
in Pokhara. They do not bring all, but, only those
who are going to elect you. So, if you are honest
guy, then, there is more chances that your voter
be left out in village.
Then, President can nominate 50% in case of Kangress.
Thus, President has full hold over the CWC decisions.
Now Girija has. Girija being an old man, going to die
very soon, just a matter of few months to couple of years.
Then, on the day he dies, the CWC will bring Sujata on
the CWC as a token of sympathy, its how peoples in
south asia and Nepal do. To get public sympathy,
Sujata will be given President's position, whether you
believe it or not. She will be heading for PM position,
because she has nothing to loss, so she will be agressive
with the help of all corrupts like Govinde, Khume ...
and become PM of Nepal. Thats what CWC means.
(you can see the same situation in UML where they
tried to replace the void left by Madan Bhandari by
asking his wife to stand, and she won the election.
I mean Nepalis are very emotional, when some one
puts pitty issues infront of public while requesting votes
and weak peoples pour vote on their favor. Similarly,
Sujata will become head of the CWC of NC. Imagine
what will happen afterwards.
Jai Nepal. Bhagwan ko bhalo chahane.
GP
PS: when I go to temples, I don't ask "God Bless me",
but, I always say "Bhagwan timro bhalo hosh". Peoples
around me look towards me, some laugh, and some get angry,
"K bhannya tyasto. Bhagwan sanga ta magne ho, bhagwan
lai bar dine ho ra". I wish similar bar to CWC peoples "God Bless CWC
Members", and if they were good and were there for peoples
cause, then, only then I would be happy to say "CWC Bless us".
When you know very well that the entity that is not for you,
why waste time on expect him/her bringing you some thing good.
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| GP |
Posted
on 14-Feb-02 05:00 AM
While searching a word NeKaPa (I was trying to search NEpal KAngress PArty
, but, turned out to be Nepal Kamunist Party). What will happen if I
register NEKAPA.org truel to mean to blast Girija and Associates Pvt.
Ltd., but, it seems Ne Kam Pa people might get angry for the misuse
of their short name. Well, in english our Communist Parties write
CPN, thanks to them, that NCP means Nepali congress Party, not,
the Nepal Communist Party). If I can register NEkAPA.org one day,
it will be set to forward to Sajha.com. Will this idea have any impact?
http://www.nepalnews.com.np/contents/englishweekly/spotlight/2000/nov/nov24/briefs.htm had following scoop on corruption erradication (it reminds me
one story read in elementary school days: Cat joining Rats in Banarash Tirtha Yatra, where Cat promises to stop eating Rats, and just follows Rats, do you know what happens when Banaras arrives? Guess it.):
Maobadi Thanks Kuber Sharma
In his reply letter written to Kuber Sharma, President Green Nepal Party (Hariyali Nepal Party), the Secretary General of the Nekapa Maobadi, who prefers to call themselves Jungalbadi, has expressed their heartfelt thanks. The gist of the letter received at our office from Sharma is as follows: "The letter written by you as a sequel to your Party's central committee's decision on 16 Kartik 2057 regarding the talks between the Maoists and the government was received. Your assessment that the Maoist People's war has generated hopes of deliverance from poverty, corruption and misrule deserves commendation. We have greatly appreciated and given importance to your suggestion that our party should give top priority to confiscate the illgotten properties of the corrupt politicians and jail them as a condition for the talks. Consequently, our party heartily accepts your selfless sacrifice and your resolution to face any consequence including jail sentence which concurs with our party principles. With thanks — Secretary General Nekapa (Jungalbadi)."
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| ashu |
Posted
on 14-Feb-02 06:09 AM
GP-ji,
You are right: Who is going to bell the cat?
I have no definite answer to that.
But I would think that even the process of publicly questioning/challenging
CWC ko role is a good enough start for now. Who knows this process of inquiry
will lead? One just has to be optimistic and keep on doing one's work, I supose.
Here's another example of CWC and its distaste for dissent and opposing views
within its own party.
I mean, CWC felt justified to publicly criticize Deuba just two days ago. But, look, these guys cannot handle criticism of their party leader from a member of the Cabinet. In a democracy, if you can't take it, why dish it out in the first place?
I rest my case.
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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CWC members demand action against Gachchhedar
Post Report
KATHMANDU, Feb 13 : Three Central Working Committee(CWC) members of the Nepali Congress Party demanded disciplinary action against Minister for Water Resources, Bijay Kumar Gachchhedar, here today.
The three members , Binay Dhoj Chand, Dr. Ram Baran Yadav and Sunil Kumar Bhandari, filed a complaint against the minister and CWC member, to the party’s central disciplinary committee.
They have claimed that Gachchhedar had violated party norms and discipline by using derogatory words against party president Girija Prasad Koirala and the nominated members in the CWC, while the CWC meeting was about to conclude Tuesday.
Gachchhedar had blamed Koirala for making decisions arbitrarily on the strength of the "Bhajan Mandali"(subservient pimps) of nominated members of the party.
"We have taken this as a case of serious misbehaviour against the party president and the members of the party," said, one of the petitioners.
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