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| AmritK |
Posted
on 19-Feb-02 06:59 PM
All of those living abroad should privately fund the Royal Nepalese Army and do their bit for Nepal. If you have personnel in the army then maybe you should put forth the idea so that the Army can open an account for collection....I am sure there are a lot of Nepali patriots out there who will be more than happy to help out in such trying times for Nepal.
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| Baythit |
Posted
on 19-Feb-02 07:50 PM
I think this is the best piece of suggestion I have heard so far on the chat. My suggestion is that all of us who believe in legitimate, democratic government contribute to a relief fund that will go to the bereved families of the policemen and soldiers who laid their lives to defend a constitutional system against the likes of Polpot. Such a gesture would greatly raise the morale of the people on the frontline. Empty talk is too cheap! Any takers?
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| anepalikt |
Posted
on 19-Feb-02 08:14 PM
I think the Nepali government should fund the Nepali Army! Instead of allowign corropt elected officials, their cronies, royalists, royals and extortist maoist to fill up their coffers with money earned by the blood and sweat of Nepalis, I think the government simply needs to buckle down and show some political will.
Citizens who live and work in Nepal pay taxes for these reasons. At at times like these, the government might need to reallocate other resources to be applied to this end. The committment shown by the government will be a far stronger morale booster for Nepali Jawans than the pidly sums expats Nepalis can contribute. But hey if someone want to, that is great!
The suggestion of starting a relief fund is one to consider though. I think this could be a real goof thing, but there is obviously much to learn from 9/11 relief funds here in the states. The question that has come up often is why shoudl just the victims of 9/11 get all the money from gove sources as well as relief funds? (It is projected that some families might receive 100s of thousands if not higher when all is said and done, in cash, scholarships and other aid.) What about folks from the Oklahoma bombing or say the families of police who die while on duty everyday? The same question could be asked in the Nepali context. in addition, after the big Red Cross debacle, who in Nepal can you trust to adminster teh funds in an equitable, transparent and accountable way??!!
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| Santosh Neupane |
Posted
on 19-Feb-02 08:25 PM
Yes! I'm ready for it if it's going to be spend properly.
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| chintak |
Posted
on 20-Feb-02 08:33 AM
Why fund the army??????? why not the cops?
seems like nobody feels bad for the horrible suffering of the cops for the last six years. I wish the cops had modern weapons six years back, then the present situation would have never happened. how can one manage to defeat the scores of enemy pouring on you when you need to load the bullet in your gun every time you fire??????????? I really dont think the cops were defeated coz they were ill trained. the recent massacre of the the entire platoon of the army has proved this because this time the maoist were heavely armed with the arms they looted from Dang.
I think it was such a wrong decision that the government recently gave out half the budget to the army but didnt even think about buying modern weapons for the cops.
so why not fund the cops if we are really into it, so that they can strengthen their fire power after all they are the one to provide the security to the society in the long run.
kancha
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| Nepe |
Posted
on 20-Feb-02 10:50 AM
AmritK, Baythit, Santosh,
While you love for our country is commendable, it is clear that you have failed to understand the intricacy of Maoist problem. Maoists are not an independent problem but A PART OF the large problem of the system that runs our country. They are not a separate disease but a symptom of the disease our system is suffering from. Maoists are the fever of Typhoid of our system. Cold water is not going to cure it. You need to feed the system with antibiotics. If you want a permanent solution to Maoist problem, you need to cure people’s frustration, disenchantment and loss of faith in the people who are ruling the country. You need an antibiotics that kills the germ called corruption. The epidemic of corruption in today’s Nepal is the source of people’s disenchantment and the popular disenchantment is the source of Maoists’ power. If you understand this, you should understand that THERE IS NO MILITARY SOLUTION TO THE MAOIST PROBLEM. Everybody knows this. Even Gyanendra and Colin Powell are saying the same thing. Fight against corruption, good governance, social and economic reform is the permanent solution to Maoists problem. Raise fund for that purpose, you will be making a positive contribution. If you raise money to buy weapons for army and police, you will be treating a typhoid with cold ice. On the other hand, if you want to raise a fund for philanthropic purpose i.e. supporting the victims of Maoists violence (and victim of army/police operations too), this is a pious cause.
If you still insist on helping police/army financially, let me tell you this. The corruption in the country has really reached to an epidemic scale. Nobody is untouched. Nobody cares about the country anymore. Everybody is after making money by whatever means. Everybody is after short-cut means to make money. And police/army is also made of flesh, bone and stomach like everyone else. You don’t trust me ? Just listen to what the Police chief told to his officers in a ceremony a few days ago in the capital. I didn’t say that.
It is very easy to boil your blood, but just don’t waste it in a wrong place.
Nepe
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| Parbate |
Posted
on 20-Feb-02 11:32 AM
Dear Nepe and Anepalekt,
I think the proposal was for raising a fund to be given to the families of the policemen and soldiers who died from Maoist bullets. It is not for buying weapons! Expart civilians can not buy weapons even if they want to! And I think the size of the fund is irrelevant, it is the gesture of goodwill and remembering that will matter most to the mothers and fathers we saw grieving at Aryaghat. It is to show that there are some people(not all of course) who recognize the deeds of dear ones who gave up their lives...I think they are the real martyars for democracy for now, not the political class.
If the US raises relief fund for its victims of 9/11, not was not only for economic reasons...it was also symbolic. So I don't think it is a bad idea for Nepalis to do the same for our own victims of terror monsters on the loose.
Jai Nepal.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 20-Feb-02 11:43 AM
I think it is not good to raise funding for military.
Let's face it, emotional suggestions can't be part of larger solution. Anyway,
Maoists, though ruthless they are, are not our only problem.
First of all, why should we contribute now? Why not we say the same thing as our
donors are saying to our government? Trim the evil list of minister and make step
forward to eradicating corruption, make sure that snakes like Govinda Raj Joshi
can never raise their evil head under the umbrella of democracy and poison it,
make sure that every nationality and genders get equal share of national
resources, and make sure that the country will ,at least, move forward.
I wouldn't like to contribute my money as long as there is a possibility that my
money will end up killing another innocent Nepali, as long as there is possibility
that my money will be hoarded in someone's personal account like the national
revenue are being hoarded today.
To raise money for military, why not we ask the leaders of NC and some of UML
leaders who earned billions in this decade alone to contribute their riches?
Maoists are evil forces, no doubt. But Nepal's current disease stemmed from
several causes.
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| !@0 |
Posted
on 20-Feb-02 07:00 PM
Idea fo raising fund for Police and Army is good.
I strongly support it. Is there any account or organization who would take care of this matter.
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| HahooGuru |
Posted
on 20-Feb-02 07:10 PM
I strongly support the idea of Biswo ji.
Nepal Govt. has enough money in reserve and if we send more
money, then, Khume and Govinde will funnel it to their pocket.
I heard Khume is too busy these days in funneling govt. money
in his pocket via purchasing of helicopters (over invoicing)
and other stuffs. He is real cheat. As long as Deoba has such
ministers, the Maoist problem will not get solved. I remember
the former President of Sri Lanka Premdasha, he used to sell
(it was reported after his death) Army amunitions and weapons
to Tamil tigers and ask govt. troops to die for him. I am very
much afraid whether Khume and Govinde are playing such
games in Nepal too. Because none of the top level corrupts
in Nepal are never harmed or nor threatened, so far. There
must be some reason inside it.
HG
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