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| Biswo |
Posted
on 28-Feb-02 10:34 PM
A recent interview of Udit in Saptahik tells it all: that some people tried to question
his nationality out of ill will.
Why is that everybody keeps on asking about his nationality? People have willingly
renounced their nationality here in USA, yet we discuss about their prospect
of getting nationality back, and yet we don't say they are not unpatriotic. But
Udit is being questioned. Is it because he is from Terai? Is it because he is
so successful that people can't stop being jealous?
For rest of us, Udit has always been an impression from our childhood. His super
hit songs, his failed venture as a movie actor, his struggle in Radio Nepal, you can
find hundreds of people who will tell their story of encounter with Udit in the past
in Nepal. Udit is 100% Nepali, and it is not to the like of Ashok Sharma or Pushkar
Shrestha or Krishna Malla to decide who is Nepali or who is not Nepali.
Thanks to Saptahik for making contact with Udit again.
http://www.kantipuronline.com/saptahic_html/manoranjan.htm#1
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| sparsha |
Posted
on 01-Mar-02 08:33 AM
Biswo ji,
Link didn't work ni ta. K ganrey? I wanted to read that piece.
"People have willingly
renounced their nationality here in USA, yet we discuss about their prospect
of getting nationality back, and yet we don't say they are not unpatriotic. But
Udit is being questioned."
I agree 99.999999999999999999999999999....%.
"...and it is not to the like of Ashok Sharma or Pushkar
Shrestha or Krishna Malla to decide who is Nepali or who is not Nepali. "
Here I agree 199.999999999999999999999999.....%.
the remaing 0.0000000000000000000001..........% is reserved for in case...
:)
sparsha
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| jira |
Posted
on 01-Mar-02 09:18 AM
I guess Biswo is right. People are jealous because of his fame. If he had stayed in Nepal, he would not have earned same name and money like he does right now.
Who does not seek for an oppertunity? Think about nepali in US migrating by any means to seek better oppertunity.
Forget about his singing career, Udit is an established person by differnet kinds of perspective. I am pretty sure that he would not gain so much if he limited his periphery within Nepal only. He made the choice without harming Nepal & Nepali. So, what is his sin? Nonetheless, he still had tremendous afford in Nepali music . After being resided in India for so long, he might have changed his citizenship status, so what? People come to US just to change the status and he may have done by circumstances, anyhting wrong?. Can you compare this who is right or wrong? I bet huge percent of Nepali will change their citizenship status providing that they are given oppertunity to come to US. Guys! think logically.
If you are asked about your status, you can lie and say that you are still a Nepali citizen inspite of taking the blue passport. Nobody will damn investigate you because you are simply one in zillion and perhaps you do not posses any quality to be a public figure. But, if he is asked the same question, he should utter by the validity of his status. Media is after him.
Further more to add, do any of the fuc..... nepali who vigorously criticize Udit's comment ever worry about Aruna Lama who was never given Nepali citizenship despite her lifetime givings for Nepali Music. Think about Sukmit Gurung! who has not been given Nepali citizenship yet. If she does get, do you think is it logical when you see an indian crying on Sukmit geting Nepali citizenship?
Please do not just throw comment just for the sake of it.
It will not make you less of a Nepali if you support Udit.
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| Bhaladami |
Posted
on 01-Mar-02 12:10 PM
Yes, it's correct there's no difference between getting US citizenship or Indian citizenship. However there's difference when a naturalized US citizen says "I'm nepali american". I was born and raised in Nepal and naturalized to US. Versus Udit Narayan who on TV and newspaper interview said that he's indian born Indian. His home is not in Nepal (Rajbiraj) but in India. That's the difference.
Whether by telling this any damn thing will matter to Nepal, Nepal's current situation or Nepal's economy that's different question.
I think it's just the matter of how much love you have to your birthplace. Materiliastically speaking there's no difference.
Bhaladami
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| sunakhari |
Posted
on 01-Mar-02 12:21 PM
JIRA!!!
YOU GET A STANDING OVATION FROM ME!!!!
You have no idea how much you have validated the point I try to make all the time with people here on the board and elsewhere about being a Nepali no matter what citizenship ram, shyam or ghanashyam think I have!!
BRAVO!!!!
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| sparsha |
Posted
on 01-Mar-02 12:23 PM
Bhaladmi,
Have you heared Udit on TV and newspaper interview saying, "I'm indian born Indian. My home is not in Nepal (Rajbiraj) but in India..."?
If you have then I can understand and support your point otherwise why blame Udit Narayan for something he did not say.
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| sparsha |
Posted
on 01-Mar-02 12:51 PM
I haven't heard Udit saying, "I am India born Indian" but in Saptahik he maintains that he is a Nepali. That's good enough for me. He probably is much better than many of us who in one hand claim to be "true or pure" Nepali but desperately are looking for a chance to flush away our Nepali citizenship and some of us already have.
Once a cousin of mine in Nepal said, If I ever get a chance to get out of this country, I will never come back to this kuhiyeko (rotten) nation.
Who are we talking about? A guy called Udit from Bhardaha or a highly popular singer of hindi songs? Believe or not we have recognized his reputation. We are confused on Udit. We are caring more for his reputation than for him. If Rame goes to India ; cleans tea glasses for 10 years somewhere in Gorakhpur or Mumbai; becomes an Indian citizen then says "hell with Nepal" how many of us care?
Udit says he loves Nepal and is a Nepali, then what is the problem with us to accept that? I don't see any reason why he needs to prove he is a Nepali. Many of us are no longer Nepali citizen (crying from DC) and what right do we have to frown upon someone who says he is a Nepali and still holds a Nepali citizenship?
Just because he is from Bhardaha and not from Darchula or kaski or Ilam it does not mean that we should question his affection to Nepal.
Just my thought.
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| suman |
Posted
on 01-Mar-02 06:53 PM
I think we Nepalese should be able to convince him that he is Nepali and not the other way round. We should love him, his songs his story etc. He certainly has an Indian heritage and has every right to love and sing Indian songs, call himself Indian etc without jeopardizing his nationality. If for some reason he declares he is an Indian, although He is not, then it's more of our tragedy than it's his.
What will you say about Lord Budha? We Nepalese should be smart enough to claim him to be a Nepali hero, not the Lord himself!
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| villageVoice |
Posted
on 01-Mar-02 07:12 PM
Udit is being targetted because he is a Madise.
No one hounds Manisha, though she's as successful. How many times do nepalis from terai have to tell the parbates: We are as Nepali as you are. It's really not fair.
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| ashu |
Posted
on 01-Mar-02 07:25 PM
There's an ancient Chinese saying: Beware of a man who has no enemies,
for he is NOT living an authentic life.
Successful Nepalis, in and out of Nepal, are more likely to have
fire-breathing
morose
sulky
bitter
crafty
gossipy
frustrated
and
"daara-keeting"
and often cowardly
enemies whose sole
overt and covert obsession is to
badmouth
disparage
denigrate
impugn
criticise
make life difficult for
pooh pooh
their successful, famous, high-abilty compatriots.
Doing the negatives gives these enemies an emotional outlet to vent their anger
and frustrations and helps them cope with their own inadequacies
and insecurities.
But thankfully, cream of the cream -- now matter how much you
beat it -- always rises to the top.
And so, it is with sympathies to both Mr. Pushkar Shrestha (a so-so editor of Kamana magazine) and Mr. Krishna Malla (a so-so actor desperate for a comeback), I -- a mere consumer of music -- offer a toast for a continuous professional success of Mr. Udit Narayan Jha, in and out of Nepal.
oohi
"dusgusted by the way some people in Nepal keep on hounding UN on issues of
citizenship under the crafty pretext of patriotism"
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 01-Mar-02 09:08 PM
One more point worth noticing in Udit's case is he was actually born in India. His
mom was from India. Those who understand that a lot of Nepali ,esp in Terai, has
marital relation in India find it no surprise.
Unlike a lot of us whose first trip to India is in school's shaikhik-bhraman, a lot of
people in Terai has half of their relatives in the other side of border, and they
keep on going there. This is a fact we need to respect. Udit Narayan , therefore,
doesn't share Krishna Malla's hatred against India.In our petty jingoism, we
shouldn't try to force people to go against somethign we don't like unnecessarily.
I have heard that all Udit Narayan said in one interview was something like this: "
See, I was born in my maawali, in India and I was raised in my house in
Nepal........"
I think it is not necessary to repeat here, anyway, because Sajha.com visitors
overwhelmingly support Udit. Best wishes to him!
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| Bhaladami |
Posted
on 01-Mar-02 11:26 PM
In recent "Saptahik" may be he said something like he's born in India but grown up in mawali. However in early 90s, it's the time that he got award for his "Qayamat se Qayamat tak" song "Papa kahate hai", he gave interview to Indian newspaper. I don't remeber which one, but in that interview he said that he was born in India and he's indian.
He went to school Nepal, he went to Ratna Rajya College in kathmandu, he lived at Putali Sadak.
Nobody is putting him in jeopardy because he's terai basi. I don't think so. Manisha Koirala has never given any interview saying she is Indian.
I have no say to why he became Indian, why did he go there. We all know that. However Amaa is Amaa. Wherever you go your mother is always your mother. No matter how poor she is, no matter what she could give you or not, mother is mother. He could have proudly said that he's nepali Indian.
In fact his first wife is still living in his Bhardwa house. She by birth is Indian but living in Nepal waiting for Udit to come back.
Bhaladami
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| uks |
Posted
on 02-Mar-02 05:07 PM
I Manisha is not criticized because everyone knows she is a Nepali. Even the journalists write her as a Nepali beauty. Udit has been controversial not because she is from Terai, but because he unsuccessfully tried to prove that he is not an alien to India (and hence all the confusion). This distintion should be accepted.
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| uks |
Posted
on 02-Mar-02 05:09 PM
Manisha is not criticized because everyone knows she is a Nepali. Even the journalists in India write her as a Nepali beauty. Udit has been controversial not because he is from Terai, but because he unsuccessfully tried to prove that he is not an alien to India (and hence all the confusion). This distintion should be accepted.
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| sevendust |
Posted
on 02-Mar-02 08:50 PM
hey suman
I don't think that we need to convince Udit about anythning. If he says that he is an Indian born Indian, then put a stick up his ass. I give a damn about him. it is definitely not our tragedy than it is his because I feel like I'm the luckiest guy in the word to born in Nepal.If he says that he was born in India then its his tragedy not ours. And to be successful in Nepal, you have be as talented as Narayan Gopal, Bhakta Raj, Jhalak Man, or !974AD. Udit Narayan was not like any of these guys that's why he had to take a hike towards India where you don't need any talent.
Suman ji aba thesto jatha bhavi lekhne hoina hai. mata thok diula.
rebelious Sevendust
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| Gariv_Nepali |
Posted
on 03-Mar-02 09:42 AM
Few Words!!!
Many people in Nepal is jealous because he is THE MOST POPULAR NEPALI in the world. He is reconized all over the world where it has indian community. From South Africa to Austrilia, from United states to Fiji...I mean all over the world. He is equally popular is South as he is singing Tamil, Telegu songs. I am sure that no any other Nepali is ever reconized in any field like Udit Narayan.several hundred millions people reconize him from all over the world. I feel proud of Udit Narayan's success in bollywood where there is countless talent guys.
I never see any artical or interview where Udit Narayan said I am indian. He always include name of Nepal when question comes about nationality. Once he told he still have Nepali passport.
Again he is singing Nepali songs below than his regular price. What you people want? You guys want him to do injustic to his talent, quit bollywood and come back and sing in Radio Nepal to show he is pure Nepali.
Finally we should be proud of Nepal as he is helping to reconize Nepal in the world. Whenever any articals are written about him Nepal is always associated with it. Doesnot that enough?
Gariv Nepali ko Awaaz
Gariv Nepali
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