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| Trailokya Aryal |
Posted
on 11-Mar-02 12:00 PM
Some basic words/phrases
Ni hao [pronounced, knee how]- hello*
Nin hao ma [pncd. Knee-how-ma (aama-ko- ma)- How are you?
Wo hen hao [pncd. Wo (wo as in wonderful), hen (hun in honey) hao]- I am fine (I am very good)
Wo hai hao [Pncd. Wo (‘’) hai (pncd. As guy, replace G with H)- I am still surviving, I am OK
Ni ne, [Pncd. Ni as in knee, ne as in nepali-ko ta, tha, da dha, na]—and yourself ?
Ni Jiao shen me [pncd. Knee , jiao (same as in nepaliko jwywal, just forget the “la” part, shen [sun] ma [aaama ko ma}—what is your name/what are you called?
Wo jiao…….(I am called…)
Wo de ming zi jiao [ pncd. De (as in English ‘the’, ming as in ming dynasty, zi (nepali ko satjal bhaneko jasto (just omit the s and l sound)—my name is…
Wo shi (shi as in nepali ko moto sha)- I am…(xue sheng- student) [pncd. Nepaliko suya aani shangh)
Zhi shi.. (nepali ko chara ko cha ra moto sha…) this is
Na shi (narayan ko na, aani moto sha)- that is
Shu (English ko Shoe)=Book
Ben (not Ben affelack ko ben, but, hariiyo ban, Nepal ko dhan ko ban)- notebook/copy
Lai ( nepali ko malai, tyaslai ko lai)- come
Wo lai..(I come)
Ni lai (You come)
Wo zai …… zhu ( zai bhaneko chaya hindi ko samjhine, aani instead of ch, use z sound)\.. aani chu khe, bhaneko newari ko jasto… tara chu khe ko chu lai z le replace garne)—I at/in (place name)……. Live.
Wo de (my)
Ni de( your’s)
Ta de (ta ko pncd. Nepaliko ko tha-thaa, thi, thu ko thaa jasto)- his/her
Ta shi (he/she is..)
Now time for the most useful phrase:
Wo ai ni (just as English I, ni as in knee)= I love you
Wo xihuan (xi as in simara ko si, huan just a huanga (wide open in nepali ko huan)..I like (here you can say any noun, verb) for example wo xihuan ni (I like you)
Nan (nan roti ko nan)- male
Nu (new)- Female
Fu Qin (fu mantar ko fu, aani hamro bishal chimeki chin ko chin.. please note, q is pronounce as nepali cha..ka kha ga gha nga pachi ko cha jasto.. chara cha ko cha)—father
Mu qin (mu as in muaaaaaaaah!)—mother
GeGe (ge as in ka kha ga ko ga, dui choti bhanne, ga ga bhanera)- Big brother/elder brother
Da ge (da as in nepaliko bhanda-bhanda bahneko jasto.. just forget the bhan part…) – Big brother (gangster)
Hao ma? (is it okay)..
Biswoji, da ge and others, what do you feel of this technique to teach Chinese by using similar sounds of nepali/English):? I think this makes learning Chinese a lot more fun to the beginners. Plus, people in Nepal, if you are interested in learning basic colloquial Chinese, feel free to email me, and I can teach you over the phone, 15 mins. Every alternate days and in three weeks time, you will be able to talk…its like experimenting, I am trying to experiment with this new approach of teaching/learning Chinese.. anyone interested can send me an email).
Biswoji, I hope you would take some time off your busy schedule to post messages and help us all learn Chinese.
Xie xie ni (say-say knee)- thank you.
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| raju |
Posted
on 11-Mar-02 01:42 PM
hey aryal mUjI why do we need to learn chinese ????
you foking deek head go learn chinese your self fok head.
we need to learn our mother language which we know nepali and we need to learn international language which is english. so go fock your arss betch hole...
proud nepali kancho
jai nepal and jai nepalis in nepal and abord
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| SIWALIK |
Posted
on 11-Mar-02 02:36 PM
TAjee: Thanks for the brief phrases. Now I will stun my Chinese friends with them.
Raju Jee: Let's not be so narrow-minded that we cannot accept learning a neighbor's language. We might as well be prepared to benefit from China's rise in the world. If we want to trade with them, it might suit us better if we have some knowledge of their language.
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| Trailokya Aryal |
Posted
on 12-Mar-02 05:42 AM
Chinese Language- 2nd class
Let’s review:
Hello (ni hao)
How are you (ni hao ma?)
Wo hen hao (I am fine/I am very good.
Wo shi xue sheng (I am a student)
Wo jiao… (My name is…)
Wo ai ni (I love you)
Wo Xihuan (I like any noun/verb)
Now, let’s move on…
Here’s a dialogue:
Ram : Ni hao, shyam.
Shyam: Ni Hao, Ni hao..
Ram : Ni Shi Xue Sheng ma ? (if there’s ma at the end, then its a question)= are you a student?
Shyam: Wo shi xue sheng, ni ne? (ni ne=what about you) (yes, I am, what about you)
Ram: Wo ye (pncd. A as in English), shi xuesheng. ( I am also a student)
Shyam: ni chi (pncd. Chirrr.. npali ko chara ko cha with r sound…) fan (san pradhan ko san ko s lai f le replace garne..) le (just as in nepali ya, ra la, wo ko la) you (yo) mei (may) you (yo) ? [have you eaten]*
Cultural note: in china, its not unusual for people to ask whether they have eaten or not, just like in nepali.. bhaat khayo ta? It’s a standard greeting..] ni chi fan le you mei you?
Ram. You (yes)/mei you (no)
Shyam: zai (zai means again, pncd. As chai in hindi, but replace c with z), jian (see, pncd. Just as English ko ian with J sound)= see you again.
Chinese is a tonal language, however its not necessary to focus on tones at the beginning, all it matters is how you say the words, if you pronounce them correctly, then people will understand what you are saying)
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 18-Mar-02 10:30 AM
Huh, there is this group also? I hope to contribute some in future. Where is da ge?
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| suna |
Posted
on 18-Mar-02 10:42 AM
TA
I am interested in learning some chinese as well but I tried reading some of the phrases you have outlined and I'm at a loss for the phonetics of certain words like xue. Maybe it would help us a lot if you could break down the phonetics of such words that are not at all prevalent in our language. For example, the use of x and u together.
Thanks
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| damn! |
Posted
on 18-Mar-02 11:00 AM
Chinese language Sucks!!!
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| Da Ge |
Posted
on 18-Mar-02 11:48 AM
TAji,
You have initiated a great thing. Hope people can take advantage of your effort. You have gone to long extent about how to pronounce the word. My experience while I was learning chinese was the phonetics helped me a lot. Like when they write X in pingying, I know it is very close to patalo sa from nepali. Also there are limited combination of consonant and vowel pronounciation. That limitation becomes handy when you see weird romanization and you know it is not chinese.
Just my comments since biswo asked for it.
For everybody, Chinese is a beautiful and very rich language. History of its literature goes way back to few hundred BC. But its poetry hit the climax during seventh to 12th century BC. I used to read chinese poetry with the help of my classmates, I still miss it. I realized I forgot all the poems I used to know, what a pity.
For Biswo and TAji, have you guys ever read "Three kingdoms". That is some book. I know they came out with a TV serial which was very popular in SE Asia. If you have not read it, I suggest you to take a time to read it, you won't regret it. FYI, Lu Xun is much more fun to read in chinese. I don't think I can read it in Chinese anymore. I read few of his stories in Chinese while I was in China. It is more interesting in Chinese. Never dared to read "Dream of Red Mansion" although my classmates insisted me reading it.
TAji,
Keep up the good work.
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| Gandhi |
Posted
on 18-Mar-02 12:16 PM
Suna do you have any Chinese friend? I pick up the words and phrases from this thread and ask one of my Chinese friends to listen to my pronunciation and correct me where necessary.
Trailokyaji, thanks a lot. For me, it's fun to learn the neighbor's language.
Gandhi
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| Trailokya Aryal |
Posted
on 18-Mar-02 07:49 PM
Sorry all,
haven't been able to give contginuity to my lessons. I was just busy with some otherw ork, but I will definately be addming more things to it. Da Ge, Biswoji and others, feel free to post your views, culture notes.. so that this thread gets interesting.
Languge learning isn't just learning the language, its learning about the people, culture, history and everything.
Anyway, to Suna: Xue can be pncd. as Shoe (jutta ko shoe) + A (english ko A).. now try saying it , Shoe+A.. a little fast.. yeah.. that's it, you got it.
here's some words:
Let's learn some basics:
Kuai Zi [aadha "ka kha ga gha ko Ka" , wa.a "ya ra la wa" ko Wo ko wa.a ra English Ko A aadha ta "ta tha da dha" ko ta ra "ca, cha, ja jha" ko ja.. kua.ye.t.zi
(pncd. kwa-A-t-zi) Note if the word ends with (zi) then the pronounciation is a (aa. aaa. yi yiiii ko aa).
= Chopsticks
Ji Dan (Eggs)= Biswo-ji ko ji, aani daan-dine/line ko daan
Trailokya
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| China Grad |
Posted
on 02-Apr-02 01:37 PM
Trailokya, Where did you lern Chinese? were u in China long?Which school did you go?just curious ..
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| Suna |
Posted
on 02-Apr-02 02:06 PM
Trailokya
I think its suffice to say that my interest in Chinese is all about ordering the right food :). Alik intelligently heryo bhaney, its the biggest cultural aspect of the chinese therefore, I feel my interest in the lingo is justified (according to your points of why a person should learn a language!)
Thanks for the tips.
Go on...
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| bhangre tilku |
Posted
on 07-Apr-02 03:43 PM
KE BHANCHA..... How do we say, You are beautiful or you are handsome in chinese.
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| Trailokya Aryal |
Posted
on 07-Apr-02 08:01 PM
here's what they saY:
You are bautiful- Ni hao kan.
If you really want to impress the girl then:
Ni hen piao (piaono-ko- piao jastai) liang
ajhai impress garne ho bhane:
Wo xiang ni hen piao liang, ni gen zhang zi yi yi yang!!! (advcd. speakers, how does this sound?)
now, to say you are handsome:
Ni hen suai (i have heard many taiwanese use it, don't know what's the exact word in mainland chinese)
Ajhai impress garne ho bhane:
Ni hen ke ai (ka kha ko kha, aaye)- You are cute
Ni zhen hao kan aa! ( you really are GOOD looking)
OK, I have already posted the pronouciation keys in the earlier threads. Go back to those, and learn pronounciation. Don't worry about tones at this stage.
xianzai wo xiang wo de "mon amour":-)
Qing ai de "mon amour"
Wo xiang ni, wo ai ni. wo xiang ni shi, shi jie de zui piao liang de nu ren, zhen de! ruguo ni bu xin wo, ni ke yi wen.. ke yi wen...bie ren...wo zhi dao mei ge nan ren xi huan ni, ai ni.. ke shi..ni ai wo, suoyi, wo hen HEN hen gao xing aa!
(love letter in Chinese fo those of you dating a chinese girl:-)/ or a chinese looking, cute girl from Nepal:-) Hey, YUE, narisa hai.
Trailokya
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| bhangre tilku |
Posted
on 11-Apr-02 05:18 PM
Thank you for the language lessons Trailokyaji...
I have some more to ask...
How do we say?????..... Have a good/great day or week or weekend.
Is it said differently according to the gender?
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| Makardhwaj |
Posted
on 12-Apr-02 08:11 AM
"Trailokya Jee,
Thanks a lot!
Good job!
When i started learning Chinese in JPN, I always was depressed on the pronounciation.
Anyway,
How do u say
"Timro bubu thulo chha" in Chinese?
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| Trailokya Aryal |
Posted
on 12-Apr-02 09:27 AM
[This is a thread to learn Chinese and to discuss stuffs related to China. If this is boring, dry, jharko-lagne, then you might as well click on other threads, because I know how hard it gets to people who are not interested in the language/culture to go through this thread. believe me, I undeerstand your problems.. Yes, its a real torture, but there are few people who are into Chinese and this being a democratic forum want to disucss, learn, share their knowledge here. Again, a reminder: This can get quite boring and irritating if you are not into language learning. So accept my sincere apologies and click on their threads. There are some really interesting discussions going on, those might help you over come the boredom]
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Dear all curious learners:
Sorry about this delay in replying to you guys' queries:
Now, to someone who asked me where/when I studied Chinese:
I studied Chinese in China for 4 months. I went there as a study abroad student and my program had affiliation with Hua Dong Shi fan Da Xue (East China Normal University, Shanghai). I went there without any prior knowledge of Chinese, and when I returned back to the US, I continued my studyy of China and Chinese language, history and politics. And thanks god that I had the oppurtunity to study with some really great profs. at a small school in the middle of nowhere, which influended my thinking and I added a second major of Chinese Studies to my already existing major.
This is my background. And my Chinese isn't that good. I hope this satisfies someone who was wondering as to where/when/how long I studied in China.
Biswoji, and others, you guys have spent more time in China and speak better Chinese than me, and time permitting please post some stuffs relating to labguage, culture, history and politics to this thread. So, that people can learn not only the language but also the culture of our immediate neighbor to the north. This is a request.
Now, getting back to other queries:
I don't know how to say, have a nice day in Chinese. Some phrases of English can not be translated into other languages, and as far as my little knowledge of the language goes.. I don't think they have something like have a nice day in Chinese. But, I guess you can say, ni you hao tian or just hao tian aa! (aa is pncd. aamako aa). Again, this is a translation and don't blame me if your chinese friend thinks you are weird when you say this to him/her.
About, you have big breasts!
makardhowj ji, you mentioned that you studied Chinese in Japan, so, just try playing with the words.. construct a sentencee and you'll get it. Biswoji, probably knows the exact tranlsaion to this, so I request you to pass this question to biswoji, or our own gangster dai, da ge ji (gangsters know more words code words and common words than we ordinary people do:-), hoina ta da ge ji.
Totally irrelevant to those not interested:
da-ge xian sheng ye bishwo xian sheng , ruguo wo shuo, aa! kan kan , na nu ren de liang ge bao, da da (second da to stress) de (wo de shu, de "de") :-), keyi ma?
Wo yi jing wang le wo de hanyu. Ruguo nimen gei wo fu xi, wo xiang wo hui shuo hao hao de.
Trailokya
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| Makardhwaj |
Posted
on 12-Apr-02 09:50 PM
Trailokya Jee,
Learning language & culture is quite interesting.
I had one friend from Africa. Jairu.
He said he had mastered 7 languages. & hance he has the experience of refusing by 7 girls too.
It was:
His ownmother language
French
Chinese
English
Japanese
...?
Spanish
Once I also learnt the one line "I love you." in 23 different languages:
Wo ai ni.
Kimi wo aisiteru.
I love u.
Me tumse pyar karta hu.
Ami tomako bhalo bhasi.
Kita mahal.
Ma timilai prem garchhu.
Fam lak khun.
Saya cinta kamu.
Ya leblya tebyu.
... ... ...
To be added later
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| China Grad |
Posted
on 18-Apr-02 04:32 PM
Thanks TA,
Do you remember a Nepali who is in a line with you in Shanghai for US Visa In December of 1998?I remember you said your were doing your undergrad? Have you finished?
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| neparujin |
Posted
on 18-Apr-02 08:03 PM
Trailokya Lao Shi,
Ni dui xuexi hanyu de xiangfa wo jue de fei chang hao.
JIA YOU BA!
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| Trailokya Aryal |
Posted
on 18-Apr-02 09:05 PM
aha! china grad xian sheng,
Wo hai ji de ni!!! mei wang le!! xian zai ni zai nali, zai meiguo, zhong guo hai shi zai ne bo er? Early december morning in shanghai..you were just behind me. I remember you now. So, how's everything? This world is indeed a small place, and cyber space has made it even smaller. Its so amzing to come across people that you have met in real life in very unusual circumstances! I don't think I still look like a musalman from xinjiang:-)
aani, neparjin ji,
gan xie ni, fei chang xie ni!
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 18-Apr-02 10:50 PM
Lu kai xiansheng:
(da an she!)
na nu ren de wenxiung hen da!
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| neparujin |
Posted
on 18-Apr-02 11:14 PM
T. Lao shi,
Bu keqi.
Xuexi Hanyu, Wo xian qilai le wo de xueng sheng sheng huo zai Beijing Yu
Yuan Xue Yuan (Xian Zai Bian Ming -- Beijin Xue Yuan Wen Hua Da Xue). Na shi 86 nian.
Xie Xie. Shi wang ni jixu nuli.
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| neparujin |
Posted
on 18-Apr-02 11:36 PM
Tui buqi. xian zai wo mei you jihui yong hanyu, wo cuo de tifang bu shao. Qing ni zai yici rang wo xie.
Xuexi Hanyu, Wo xiang qilai le wo de xue sheng sheng huo zai Beijing Yu
Yuan Xue Yuan (Xian Zai Bian Ming -- Beijin Xue Yuan Wen Hua Da Xue). Na shi 86 nian.
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| Da Ge |
Posted
on 18-Apr-02 11:42 PM
Although I am a self claimed Da Ge. I honestly don't how they say timro bubu thulo chha in chinese. I can think several biological words but they don't sound very catchy. Well, I guess I did not learn chinese as well as I thought I did. But, TAji your translation sounds pretty good to me.
For others:
Yes learning chinese and living in China was one of the most memorable time of my life both while working and going college. I grew so much, learnt so much from my chinese classmates, teachers, foreign students. It was eye opening experience.
China, with its ancient civilization and morden mystique, is certainly an attractive destination for foreigners, specially for us Nepali. Despite its proximity, Nepali academia lacks the basic knowledge of china, chinese civilizaion and its people. I don't know if it is because of the giant mountains and vast plateu that seperate us from china or its mysteriousness that makes it hard for scrutiny. Whatever the cause is, our well being lies understanding chinese culture, language, politics and its people. Because, to be a good neighbor, mutual understanding is a must. Mutual understanding means we know them and they know us.
China is much more than communism, Maoism and the Khasa-imported-goods we buy in night market. It is a civilization that has developed over few millennia. It is a country with area 69 times bigger than Nepal with 1.2 billion people. It is mix of many different nationality from tibetan, korean, han to Ugyur of north west. It is a civilization that has seen many properous times. It is also a civilization which has seen terrible famine, flood, massacre, fire, destruction, any thing you name it. It is a civilization which gave the world money, paper, gun powder and the principle modern rockets, firecrackers and many other things. Yet, inspite of these reasons it is mystery to us. Nepal had few hadrendezvous with China in battelfields. Mainly when they recue Tibet and help them to win wars. But there are few institute that study chinese cultures, chinese language, chinese politics compared to institutes that study our southern neighbor.
As chinese economical, political and military might in the world arena grows, the need for us to understand them becomes even greater. Hope, in coming days, we will not stay idle while it comes to understand our northern neighbor and miss the great oppuritinities to do good for us and for them while establishing a mutually understanding friendly relation.
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| china grad |
Posted
on 19-Apr-02 10:24 AM
TA,I had not imagined that I could find you again.Sure Zhe ge shi jie hen xiao.Wo xian zhai zhai Dallas.Wo xian zhai mei you ji hui so han yu.I left China that Christmas for US and since been here. I spent 15 years in China studying and working.But for any language if you don't use it you tend to forget it over the time.That is what is happening to me now .Good job that you have started this forum.I might as well refresh my Chinese.
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| Da Ge |
Posted
on 19-Apr-02 10:56 AM
China Grad,
Which university did you go? I think I know you. Did you go to Oklohoma or Alabama before you went to Dallas, Just curious.
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| Da Ge |
Posted
on 19-Apr-02 10:58 AM
Here you go, one chinese tongue twister:
Chi PuTao Bu Tuo putao pi, pu chi putao dao tu putao pi.
Try to say it realy fast.. and have fun
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| China Grad |
Posted
on 19-Apr-02 01:22 PM
Da Ge,
why don't you write me an e mail. If you know me I might know you as well.I went to OK before I moved to Dallas.
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| China Grad |
Posted
on 19-Apr-02 01:45 PM
Da Ge,
Here is my e mail if you or TA wanted to write me.
jayshambho@yahoo.com
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 19-Apr-02 02:13 PM
Da ge:
Na nu ren de wenxiung zhen da should be fine, I guess. Is Chinagrad Mr Guru Giri?
Just curious.
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| Da Ge |
Posted
on 19-Apr-02 03:04 PM
Biswoji
I thought so. I was trying to find out.
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| Pauna |
Posted
on 21-Apr-02 11:36 AM
Does "Lu gu sung" makes any sense in chinese????
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| YpsiRocks |
Posted
on 30-May-02 12:26 PM
Laa Goo Soong........ganayo?
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| Lu |
Posted
on 30-May-02 01:58 PM
alright try this:
si shi si
shi shi shi
shi si shi shi si
si shi shi si shi
si shi si shi si shi si
[ 4 is 4
10 is 10
14 is 14
40 is 40
44 is 44]
have fun.. don't forget the tones.
da ge do you know..
yi ge.. tiao (one from jumped.. two frog jumped ..one?]
Here's a song to all those advance speakers::
dui mian de nu hai, kan guo lai..
kan guo lai.. kan guo lai..
zhi li de biao yen hen qing cai, qing bu yao jia chu(q)an bu li bu cai
wo zuo kan you kan, shang kan, xia kan
yuen lai mei ge nu hai dou bu jian dan
wo xiang le you xiang..
wo cai le you cai..
nu hai men de xin shi hai zhen qi guai..
zhen qi guai le le lai lai lai
jim ho nan hai de chang ying pai..
zuo pai pai.. you pai pai..
Yi jing wang le.. ni zhi dao zhe shuo ge ma?
Lu
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| heykancha |
Posted
on 10-May-03 12:46 AM
bu zhishi zhong guo feidian chuanran bing tai yan zhong le.da jia ,ying gai xiao xin yidian,dai shang kouzhao..
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