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| Biswo |
Posted
on 14-Mar-02 02:20 PM
As a student, I frequently rode the blue Sajha Bus (and some green ones too) on
my way to Kathmandu or Chitwan. They were sleek, beautiful buses, and were
famous for their timely service, and dependable drivers.
The popularity of Sajha bus, however, gradually introduced some problems. People
flocked to Sajha as if there were no other buses. I had to buy tickets three days
in advance just to go to Kathmandu from Tandi. I could see a lot of helpless
standers in the bus the day I travelled to Kathmandu. Having a seat to sit on,
sometimes, looked like a privilege. And, sometimes when I had to travel
without any seat,whenever the bus jolted or joggled and I shoved the passenger
sitting in the seat near me accidently, I felt his prickly and disapproving eyes
hurled to me.
The crowd in Sajha later proved baneful. The drivers, and the conductors all
became corrupt. They raised money to feed themselves. Passengers became
rowdy and reckless.The seats started to frazzle,& the bus was stinking all the time.
Its proverbial timely arrival-departure became a story of past.Some weeks ago,
with rarely any accident record, and without any decrease of public confident ,
the Sajha Bus went bankrupt. I don't know how those corrupt karmachaaris, and
drivers/khalasi/conductors feel now. I don't know how the passengers who
vandalized the Sajha feel now that they are paying exorbitant price in private
buses.I just know they killed a Soon Ko Kukhuraa.
And finally, I believe most of our readers agree that some of our visitors resemble
the rowdy passengers of Sajha. Guys, why don't you realise this is the common
and perhaps only global vehicle of Nepali to interact?
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| suna |
Posted
on 14-Mar-02 09:53 PM
Biswo
I have another twist to your story.
Sometimes, when I would be late to go to work and the office vehicle would not wait for me, I would have to take the tempo upto Pulchowk. Some times there would be nice people to share the ride with, most times there would be lecherous men sitting next to me whose only pleasures in life would be to rub their knees against mine. I would feel so ashamed that I would not react, my eyes would not leave the ground while my whole body cringed!! I was 16/17 then.
Looking back, I felt violated, dirty and disgusted!!
Well 10 or so years later and what do I see??? the same TEMPO mentality. Nothing has changed much!!
Its a sad sad situation
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 14-Mar-02 10:20 PM
Suna:
I don't think you should feel violated. The major weakness of Nepalese ladies is
their feeling that they are inherently weak, and that protest against a male abuser
makes 'them' weaker. And almost every 'man' in our country feels that he can
verbally, physically abuse a girl without impunity.Ladies in Nepal need to stand up
and protest loudly.
Now, think about this:
1.Almost every incidence about boksi(witch) I have heard involves a weak old
lady being victimized. Man is rarely accused of being witch.
2.One day I went to a newly established Sukumbaasi basti in Chitwan. Men were
playing card, and drinking ale. Women were carrying water, and washing dish.
3. All classes I attended in my life in Nepal had male female ration 1:5 or more. Even one elite school BNKS, for some reason, didn't accept girls then.etc. etc.
As long as girls are treated as second class citizen, lechers will be the first one
to take benefit from that.In our lawless country, there is an infinitely long list of
victimized women. I really feel sorry about that. And I also feel sad about the
current trend in Sajha.com where even educated 'foreign based' boys forget
the decorum and shamelessly attack , esp girl, posters.
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| suna |
Posted
on 14-Mar-02 10:42 PM
Biswo:
Mildly put, thanks for your views.
I think you hit the bull's eye. Some female posters I have spoken with are shocked by some of the things that go on in this forum these days. They all turned to this forum for one reason and ONE reason only: They felt they would not be belittled for their ideas and point of views. They felt they could contribute to the accumulation of knowledge and knowledgeable people. They felt that the males who frequented this site were in many ways vastly superior to the "tempo-type males" and were EDUCATED and would behave in a decent manner. Much to our disappointment, unfortuntely, we don't feel that any more.
And YES there are different kinds of posters and people and men and women but one bad potato in the sack spoils the whole sack.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 14-Mar-02 11:16 PM
Suna:
Again you are entitled to your views, which are very justified.
But again, rather than expecting a cushy world, why not expect a bumpy world
where you have to protect yourself, retaliate furiously and prove your emotional
maturity? These protestors who jumped at female posters will have their fifteen
minutes of fame and will extinguish like a meteor.Even in their regular appearance,
they are buch of cowards who hide behind veil and snipe at decent people in the
board.Why to let them take control of this site? May be fear factor, right?
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| ashu |
Posted
on 15-Mar-02 12:47 AM
Hi Biswo,
When a thing belongs to everyone, it belongs to no one.
I have been following the co-op business models in Nepal for sometime, and
have concluded, with evidence, these things do NOT work.
Sajha bus was a necessary service in the '70s and the '80s when there were no or few other privately-run public buses in Kathmandu and in Nepal, and when sajha buses had had a monopoly on Kathmandu's streets.
Those days are long gone now.
The government's biggest mistake was NOT to have sold off, with certain safegurads in place, the entire sajha yatayat years ago to interested private parties, who would have looked for ways to make the whole thing profitable by reducing unnecessary costs and innovating their services.
Instead, the government allowed the sajha bus system to muddle along -- even when there were and are plenty of private-sector competitors -- with all the usual PERVERSE INCENTIVES backed up by taxpayers' money, and now look at the result.
The whole thing is gone.
Forever.
Sometimes, you know, we avoid bitter cures now only to die out altogether
later.
Now, if only the goold old RNAC could go the way of sajha yatayat soon,
I'd be one happy economist (dismal scientist) in Nepal. :-)
OK, please do not misunderstand me: on a serious note, the sajha yatayat case illustrates three things.
First, it's NOT the job of the national government to run public buses.
Government's job is to make sure that people (i.e. voters) who ride on those buses feel safe, have insurance and have choices as to where and when they want to go with minimum hassel. In other words, let the government be an umpire, or a regulator and NOT the driver of the bus to do as it pleases with the bus.
Second, government can start a few things when the start-up costs of NEW
things are too high for the private sector, and then, over time, allow the private sector come over and run the thing.
If only the government had let the private sector management take over sajha yatayat a few years ago, with certain safeguards in place, it's conceivable that the whole thing would be still running, at a profit with fewer but more accounatble employees. Aand all that the government could be doing would be: enforcing regulations and collecting taxes.
Third, and this is a harsh judgment: The only way we can afford sajha yatayat now is to have it in a dead form. That's because to get the buses up and running now will be major expenses for all of us consumers in terms of money diverted from education, health and so on.
Like I said, if only RNAC goes the sajha way soon, there will be a lot less
burden on us taxpayers.
Others can agree, disagree and voice their concerns/comments.
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 15-Mar-02 05:50 PM
Ashu:
My analogy of Sajha was not intended to applaud the ownership of Sajha, and it
was just intended to be analogy. I respect private enterpreneurs out there who
are doing good job in transportation sector.(consequently, I think the syndicate
system in Western Nepal should be abolished, and any kind of clique formation by
a group of people against consumer interest should be made illegal.) So, I
agree with your comment regarding Sajha.
But, I am now little bit confused. Was Sajha started as a transportation business
or was it a corporation started because a capitalist country (Japan) donated a
few buses to the government of Nepal ?
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| naresh_karki |
Posted
on 15-Mar-02 10:04 PM
Suna,
10 years is a very short period of time to anticipate such drastic change. You have to wait few more decades. Who knows situation goes even worse??? And you don't expect all people who visit this site are highly educated. If you people want to certain adademic level to post something, make it clear. We will not post nothing here. Every body is not educated......and different people has different level of thinking. In this free net, you should be mentally prepare to accept all these things after all we do know where we are and how we are. Sometime you guys make me laugh.
Naresh Karki
Baltimore
Biswo:
Mildly put, thanks for your views.
I think you hit the bull's eye. Some female posters I have spoken with are shocked by some of the things that go on in this forum these days. They all turned to this forum for one reason and ONE reason only: They felt they would not be belittled for their ideas and point of views. They felt they could contribute to the accumulation of knowledge and knowledgeable people. They felt that the males who frequented this site were in many ways vastly superior to the "tempo-type males" and were EDUCATED and would behave in a decent manner. Much to our disappointment, unfortuntely, we don't feel that any more.
And YES there are different kinds of posters and people and men and women but one bad potato in the sack spoils the whole sack.
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| suna |
Posted
on 16-Mar-02 06:20 AM
Naresh_Karki
10 years is a LONG time for most people. I personally think ten years is a long time. But it depends in what context you are talking about. So lets just leave it at that.
People do not need a degree to be decent, they do not have to have any kind of formal degrees at all. In fact, some of the nicest, courteous people I've met have been illiterate. The concern here was of DECENCY not DEGREES.
Naresh_Karki, I think you are still in the phase where the word SAJHA means free and mero bau ko hoina so lets bash it up and break it. Well, since you know where you are and how you are, may its also time to realize that this SAJHA is NOT the big blue bus that was all nice and shiny when it first came to Kathmandu and was a wreck a short while later.
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| Homophobic |
Posted
on 16-Mar-02 01:43 PM
Sajha bus was good for me. I had plenty of opportunities to fondle PK girls hehehhe
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| Radha |
Posted
on 16-Mar-02 04:06 PM
Homophobic is unstable. He is unpredictable. Tries to put a good fron but his inner demons take ove again and again. He tries to be nice, very hard, then unravels himself and goes to deep in the pit where filth and garbage is abound. He plays with it and then realizes that is not what he is supposed to do. And he aplogizes.
He is a sociopath. So is Naresh Karki and so is that Fully Retarded one-eyed, lecher kancha.
Be aware of these three. They have a potential to be a serial killer or a mass murderer.
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| Homophobic |
Posted
on 16-Mar-02 06:35 PM
Radhi: its funny how you described me 100% accurately. See ya tonite honey.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 16-Mar-02 06:44 PM
Homophoboicji:
Will you let this thread be free of your foul words, sir? It is very immature way
of dealing with your inferiority complex of your inner self.
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