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   Hi all, It's really interesting for m 14-Mar-02 ashu
     Well if it is like this-- Who would post 14-Mar-02 hmmm....
       I appreciate Ashu’s call for resil 14-Mar-02 Nepe
         "So, you, regular posters, let's not wor 14-Mar-02 suna
           Suna, One effective way to make evil 15-Mar-02 ashu
             Suna, Who would police the traffic he 15-Mar-02 diwas k
               I agree with Ashu that let us not give a 15-Mar-02 13-thum
                 Ashu and Diwas I do not mean to say w 15-Mar-02 Suna
                   Folks FREEDOM is a double edge 15-Mar-02 kOKO
                     To all the Freedom of Speech advocates: 15-Mar-02 hmmm....
                       Suna hai Suna....lau ayoo suna.... How 15-Mar-02 Makuro
                         Hmmm.... So what are you 15-Mar-02 Koko
                           This is for makuro: If you feel that 15-Mar-02 what's up!
                             So Koko: Is sajha.com the avenue for 15-Mar-02 hmmm....
                               ashu et al, if the "bad" is to follow gr 15-Mar-02 smp
                                 Hhhmmmm, I am not advo 15-Mar-02 Koko
                                   KOKO Paranoia is a disorder and let me 15-Mar-02 Suna
                                     Suna, So what are all you's say 15-Mar-02 Koko
                                       THEY'RE NEPALI AND THATS WHY I'M EVEN MO 15-Mar-02 Suna
Suna, I did not read that in yo 15-Mar-02 Koko
   Koko, I am one of the people asking to h 15-Mar-02 arnico
     1. In a democracy, exclusive clubs are a 15-Mar-02 hmmm....
       Dear all, I know, I'm the cause of st 15-Mar-02 Mildly Retarded Kancha
         I also got to apologise for my "juvenile 15-Mar-02 big d
           Hi All, Those Mcdonald's nuggets were 15-Mar-02 Mildly Retarded Kancha
             Hi All, Those Mcdonald's nuggets were 15-Mar-02 Mildly Retarded Kancha
               Dear What's up! If I were refuting th 17-Mar-02 makuro
                 I do not understand why people are so he 18-Mar-02 Koko
                   The problem with your response all the t 18-Mar-02 yourProblematicReponse
                     Koko, The reason I say that is 18-Mar-02 KOKO
                       But Koko then your argument is rarely he 18-Mar-02 yourProblematicResponse
                         Well, You read it. Now thats a 18-Mar-02 Koko


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ashu Posted on 14-Mar-02 08:23 PM

Hi all,

It's really interesting for me to watch how some of us react when this site gets invaded by not-so-palatable postings by our fellow Nepalis.

Our reaction is this: we retreat. We keep quiet. We ask for protections. We
get nervous. Or we pooh-pooh free speech advocates for being militant, and
so on.

My point is this: we need NOT do any of that but keep on posting. The only
thing we need to fear is fear itself.

Why?

Because the bad may drive out the good.
But only temporarily.

In the long run, the good will win over the bad.
We just have to have faith, and keep on doing one's good work.

I mean, if our faith in sajha.com is broken/shaken/shattered by a few allowed khattam postings, then, maybe, you know, let's face it, our faith in this site
and in our collective abilities was never really strong to begin with!!

And I say that with more than 5 years of Internet posting history behind me.

These not-so-palatable postings will have their 15 minutes and then lose steam alogether. That's the way it always has been; that's the way it will be here.
Next week, this time, I am sure, there will be more thoughtful postings on this
site than the garbage ones. That's the way free-for-all Web sites seem to go
on -- in cyclical terms.

On this site, for instance, you all know that I have been attacked so viciously and so maliciously in the past that looking back on the whole thing now seems quite amusing. But hey here I am -- still standing and smiling and posting and being productive and all that, while the anonymous attackers are nowhere to be
seen. This is just one small example.

So, sure, you can get your 15-minutes of fame on this site by attacking and spreading lies about other people or by posting graphic sex-related stuff, but
you CANNOT sustain such stuff over a long haul.

It's as simple as that.

So, you, regular posters, let's not worry too much about having to wade through khattam postings here. Those postings too belong here because they reflect, in their own way, our Nepali mindset. And that's fine.

It's just that they won't be here forever, and that the sun will come out -- slowly but surely.

Here's a toast to the resiliency of sajha.com

oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
hmmm.... Posted on 14-Mar-02 08:43 PM

Well if it is like this-- Who would post? Why Post? For what?

With all the anonymous posting, this site is going no where.

All you guys dreaming about taking this site to the next level-- how you gonna do like this?

If I am a leader, businessman, or any proffesional, why come here and mix with the shits.

You may say these shits will weed out, but I see new breeds growing. So whats the use, if the cycle of shit will keep on storming this site.

Gotta do something about it-- if you are to protect the Freedom of Speech.

But like this, sajha.com will never move up but will be lingering in its own filth and will die and weather out.

before you defend Freedom of Speech, remember who's freedom of speech you are defending (wonder if the Taalibans in Cuba have freedom of speech?)

things that make you go hmmm.....

Hoohi
hmmm....
Hamrika
Nepe Posted on 14-Mar-02 10:40 PM

I appreciate Ashu’s call for resilience against recent swarming up of ‘not-so-palatable’ (I would rather call them disgusting one) posters at Sajha. I agree that the best way for descent posters to show that they don’t mean much to them is to ignore these dirt and keep on posting the descent, thoughtful and intellectually provocative stuff as usual. These trash are not going to last long for natural reasons. Nevertheless, they have succeeded to put off my, like many of yours, mood at this time. When this dirt starts to clear up a bit, perhaps then I would feel comfortable to post anything serious. I know these garbage holders will come even after me for these few words (have they left anybody ?), but I will let them have their few minutes lives. Meanwhile I am taking a good night’s sleep. However, I join Ashu calling all descent posters to bring Sajha’s life back.


Nepe
suna Posted on 14-Mar-02 10:52 PM

"So, you, regular posters, let's not worry too much about having to wade through khattam postings here. Those postings too belong here because they reflect, in their own way, our Nepali mindset. And that's fine. "

Ashu, I don't think this particular "mindset" is something to be proud of. AND ITS NOT FINE.
Please look up the word FINE in the dictionary!
"Characterized by refinement or elegance."

It is not fine that one day I have a son who would behave in the same ugly manner that these posters have and men around him and say, its fine - its a Nepalese trait!

Your pleas to posters to continue posting sounds almost like an excuse to me.
ashu Posted on 15-Mar-02 01:20 AM

Suna,

One effective way to make evil (however you define it) back off is by:

a) accepting its presence.
b) looking straight into its eyes, so to speak (i.e. being fearless enough to go
on to do one's work)
c) and. telling it very clearly that it just cannot last long.

Viewed this way, my use of the word "fine" refers to (a) above, and NOT wholesale agreement with or approval of khattam postings.

To do otherwise is to allow evil (however you define it) too much importance
and to allow it to take over your life.

oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
diwas k Posted on 15-Mar-02 01:35 AM

Suna,

Who would police the traffic here..? Internet is a big experiment in chaos, and people's attempt to bring some order to it. In an open forum like this one is bound to come across materials that is not in one's taste. And this is not the first time (nor will it be the last) these questions have come forth in GBNC.org or SCN.

This is like the public library dilemma. Most of the public libraries (in the US) use some sort of filtering software with thier internet browsers. You would not be able to look up some forbidden word in the internet through those filters. But, what if that "forbidden" word was what you were investigating, and you were using a library resource to look for the information. Should your search be filtered out? The point here is that with the technology we have now, and with our definition/understanding of FREE & PUBLIC forum, internet policing would still be a full time (+overtime) job for a human.

What's our (user's) recourse? I guess it would ultimately fall on the us to use judgement and discretion when accessing information at GBNC.org and other public forum websites.

Here's a Ukhan from someone... sorry if it offends anyone... "Naya naya musalman, jyada masjid jata hai..". Maybe this explains some of the "tasteless" postings here...


>
>Ashu, I don't think this particular "mindset"
> is something to be proud of. AND ITS NOT
>FINE.
>Please look up the word FINE in the
>dictionary!
>"Characterized by refinement or elegance."

I wanted to add my two cents.. but will leave to big thinkers to delve into this FINE thing...

_diwas
13-thum Posted on 15-Mar-02 01:48 AM

I agree with Ashu that let us not give any importance to these khatam posters and with time they will disappear. The only way to deal with these people is to be indifferent from them. If we start atacking them for each of their comment, they will be more encouraged and we know how low they can get to make offending comments.

Let us come up with more interesting and informative threads like Biswo's Sajha Bus.

13-thum
Suna Posted on 15-Mar-02 09:03 AM

Ashu and Diwas

I do not mean to say we should REGULATE, heck I would have a hard time in here then. What I mean is this kind of behaviour is UNACCEPTABLE in a DECENT society. Educated and decent MEN should be setting an example and saying something about this. Saying its FINE or whatever is FINE is NOT setting an example!!! Be MAN enough to stand up and go against such behaviour. Keeping quiet about such matters does not IMPROVE OUR SOCIETY.

ASHU, lets not deviate from the subject and dwell on the word FINE. I could go on and on forever on the proper usage of words as well. Thats not going to get us anywhere.
kOKO Posted on 15-Mar-02 10:22 AM

Folks
FREEDOM is a double edge sword. Those so called degrading posters also belong to the same Nepali community as you and me. We can request these visitors to behave and respect each other. But banning them would definately be a backlash to all the freedom advocates that gather here. If we ignore and not respond to such idiotic and senseless statements I feel that those so called pest posters will have nothing to feed their egos on. But if we respond then I would have to say "Let the Games begin(tamasaa)"
This is like being in a mosh pit... If only you and your friends are moshing a lil push or shove would be fun and harmless. But when strangers start coming and start headbutting everyone then you would move away from the pit to the side and be a spectator. And would join in only you you see it fit. If you feel its getting bit rough then get outta there and only come back when you see its ok. But you do not have to get rid of the pit.
hmmm.... Posted on 15-Mar-02 10:40 AM

To all the Freedom of Speech advocates:

You need to redefine Freedom of Speech with this new public junctions. Tell me where is this kind of Freedom of Speech is allowed? Your home, Your Temple, Your public Radio station, Your Television? Where my friends where??

If you speak obscure, the newspapers won't publish, the radios and TV's don't broadcast.

If you go in public and speak like that (like some people did here), you will be jailed. And here advocating Freedom of Speech for anonymous posters whose sole propose is to belittle and degrade other human beings.

Some of you are blindly supporting this kind of behaviour in the name of Freedom of Speech. Open your eyes. Yeah, all of you studied in the US and were taught about Freedom of Speech, but most of you seem to miss the point.

Nayaa Jogile Kharani Dherai Ghascha
Nayaa Mullahle Nawaj Karaarera Padcha

hmmm....., I am practicing my Freedom of Speech
Makuro Posted on 15-Mar-02 10:52 AM

Suna hai Suna....lau ayoo suna....
How are you everybody?

Hey the best medicine to cure the cancer of indecency in this site is ignore them. Popularity or celebrity status is something everybody wants. Accept it or not those people who regularly contributes to this site are celebrity. Suna you are celebrity here so are Ashu, Biswo, Hahoo( where is he now?), Purwa-Paschim, Nepe, NK, JDV and many more. You folks didn't earn this status overnight. You earned it because of your consistent dedication to this site.

Ok think of the guy/girl who just happens to come across this site yesterday. He/She is envious of you -envious of your ability to generate response from differnt people, envious of your status in this site, envious of everything about you. Instead of earning the status like you guys earned here, that person thinks s/he can earn that easily by posting lewd untasteful stuffs. That person wants you to be angry and offended and most importantly that person wants you to repudiate what he/she did. Once you start voicing your discontent over his/her views and action...Bingo..s/he achieves what s/he wanted. So Sunaji best medicine to this cancerous phenomenon is just to ignore them. In this situation, don't taut good regular poster to drain their energy to refute such behavior. Please don't think their silence as not being 'Manly'. If all well known people( in this site) starts attacking that kind of behavior here, I am certain buyoued by the new attention he/she got, that person won't stop. Sometimes, keeping quiet and ignoring such thing is best recourse ....ki kaso???
Koko Posted on 15-Mar-02 02:06 PM

Hmmm....
So what are you suggesting ? Just bescause you are not exposed to obsecure newspapers(strong sexual content to marijuana lovers), or net radio(pirate radio to napster), or cable TV(naked news to spice channel) does not mean they don't exist. They do exist and you with your freedom of choice chose to ignore them. But that is your choice.
My point is that we cannot ignore these folks. They are part of your community like it or not. True democracy would include all peoples not just the socially HIFI ones. This being the net... reflects the true form of democracy from where the porn industry gous hand in hand with the financial companies(if you look at all the junk mails you get on you yahoo hotmail or msn mail accountsl).
Same thing with public figures.. if they start talking in lackluster language. Of course the general public will loose faith in them. I do not know of any political figure who is successful who speaks like that. And the general public knows better anyway(have faith in people). So lets not get tooo paranoid here.
what's up! Posted on 15-Mar-02 02:07 PM

This is for makuro:

If you feel that “to ignore" is medicine, then start it up from yourself. Do not make any comments relating those posting, just keep quite. Why you are here to make noise? Don’t give advice to anyone like DO THIS..DONT DO THAT.. You are against your own sayings. From your posting it is also clear that you are much offended. How could you say that those people are seeking for attentions, when they are not with their own identity? They are not like Ashu, NK, Bisho, Hahoo, Trilokya…etc whom are known personally. My bottom line: Some friends who are posting those things are not seeking for attentions. Perhaps they are not satisfied with something, something right here in gbnc.

So makuko don’t make any net here to trap prey.
hmmm.... Posted on 15-Mar-02 02:24 PM

So Koko:

Is sajha.com the avenue for all the Nepali PORN lovers. Is this the outlet?? Its not about stopping them or eradicating them. Its about proper attitude at proper place.

This is a public forum, just like one can't go naked on the public streets (there are laws guiding that), we should make these people stop.

Kharani dherai naghasau. Thats all I am saying. Freedom of Speech vandaima jaha pani j pani garna paaidaina. If that is what you understood, then you are wrong.

hmmm....
smp Posted on 15-Mar-02 02:46 PM

ashu et al, if the "bad" is to follow gresham's law by any chance, it WILL drive out the "good". not that i am taking any sides. and i am also not getting into what is "bad" versus what is "good."
Koko Posted on 15-Mar-02 03:11 PM

Hhhmmmm,
I am not advocating anyone here. I am just saying that whether you like it or not they exist. You said it yourself, its a public forum. Public means everyone including the porn people(if you insist on cornering porn industry), juveniles delinquents, poor, rich...everyone. IF IT IS REALLY A PUBLIC FORUM THEM ALL PEOPLES HAVE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES. But in a proper way, like SAN put 18+ waring on SexUsergroup. Now there is a start.... AT YOUR OWN DISCRETION....the choice is in your hand.
Suna Posted on 15-Mar-02 03:15 PM

KOKO
Paranoia is a disorder and let me assure you, I am not paranoid. Anything but!

While I understand all the freedom crap here (in the sajha/gbnc context), I do not buy for even a second that we should be targetted and trampled upon by a few people who feel they can just about do anything and can get away with anything - wasn't that what democrats blamed Pancheys for doing??? MY MY in the name of democracy and freedom of speech.
Maybe just maybe we, as a society, have not evolved so much as to have a democractic system and might just have to revert to the panchayati system(registered users to post threads) or even a communist system where its one all and all for one(theoretically speaking). And before anybody pounces on me for this analogy, think hard.
Koko Posted on 15-Mar-02 03:37 PM

Suna,
So what are all you's saying. That these people do not have to express themselves ? I am sorta lost here. They might be stupid, sensless, juvenile, or porn addicts but BOTTOMLINE THEY ARE NEPALI AFTERALL. We cannot ignore them. If we were talking about a similar situation here in the States, your organization will be sued for DESCRIMINATION. I don't post very often, but when I see something I do not like I voice my opinion. The same way they also voice their opinion too in their own way. But people don't realize that not everyone that posts here is as afluent in English language as the regular posters. So they revert to obscene languages. Now whether we repond to it is our choice.
Suna Posted on 15-Mar-02 03:45 PM

THEY'RE NEPALI AND THATS WHY I'M EVEN MORE DISGUSTED.

BUT you are right - when one doesn't have ample vocabulary one resorts to swear words but people have been expressing themselves in perfect English here WHILE resorting to vile language. I wonder what you would say about such people then.

And DEAR, let me flip the coin for you. (since you seem to be verbant in the language). If the man was to behave in the same manner in PERSON, then there would be suits of all types against him.
BUT ANYWAY, who is asking for them to be demolished from this site?? Have you read that in any of my postings here??
Koko Posted on 15-Mar-02 03:54 PM

Suna,
I did not read that in your posting. But I wal talking about all those folks who want to make this into an exclusives only club. THAT IS NOT DEMOCRACY. aND THESE ARE THE VERY PEOPLE WHO MOCK DEMOCRACY.
arnico Posted on 15-Mar-02 04:16 PM

Koko, I am one of the people asking to have the forum be such that only people who registered can post. That is NOT being exclusive. Anyone who can access the internet can have a free e-mail address. And anyone who has an e-mail address can receive a password and post messages. Simple, easy. Everyone can do it, except when San banishes them from the site for a good reason (which he now occasionally does anyways).

So, when ANYONE has the right to register to post messages, that does NOT make the forum exclusive. RIGHT?

I don't see the connection to democracy. A democracy still has rules by which people live, and still has bylaws about how people get treated who don't follow the rules. If it is decided that one of the rules for sajha.com is that we don't want people to wear masks and shout out profanities from behind them, and that anyone who wants to speak has to be identifiable, then that does not make it any less democratic.

Democracy does NOT mean the freedom to say anything. It also does NOT mean the freedom to insult and trample on others. Democracy simply means that decisions (about how to govern, how to live together) are made by a majority of citizens. So far San has made decisions by polling users. But sajha.com is not an elected government. It is owned and run by one incredibly hard working person who is putting his personal resources into making it possible. If San wants to make decisions based upon majority opinion, then great. But if he disagrees with the majority, then fine too. It's his site and we are all guests here.
hmmm.... Posted on 15-Mar-02 04:29 PM

1. In a democracy, exclusive clubs are allowed.
2. I agree with arnico, if every one who is willing to post can join, then registration shouldn't be a problem.
3. Freedom of Speech Argument seems to be stemming from Larry Flint vs State, which is totally different from the issues raised here by Suna and others.
4. Nobody is blocking Freedom of Speech, but rather we are raising the issue of Accountability and or proper place (like porn stuf on the porn section) and those who want to blast blasphamy, they should be held accountable and can't hide behind just the psuedonames.

On a light note, I still haven't registered though, if its regquired, hmmm.... I guess I will.

hmmm....
Mildly Retarded Kancha Posted on 15-Mar-02 06:21 PM

Dear all,

I know, I'm the cause of starting this all. I may have hurt some of you and amused some of you of my stupidity.

My ip was banned yesterday so it was hard for me to post. Coz everytime, I try to type www.gbnc.org or sajha .org . I would get something else. San knows this. But I was still able to post my appolozies using some software that make your ip like drop ofwater in ocean, last nite. Once again I sincerely appolozize for my personal attacks, some of the people might have join in the attack but it was not me.

This was an experiment as well but that does not give me any excuse to charcter assasinate people and I am truly sorry for that. I believe in free speech. And people should be able to express what ever way, shape or form they deem., As long as they dont break the rule of law. So if I have broken the rule of law then I am guilty as charged (England) and innocent till proven guilty (In usa).

I felt that the admin power was being abused and I snaped. I could have just posted in different way but then I realize i would not get good response. I might have been wrong in assuming the abuse of power by few friends of admin for their instant gratification. But still it does not give me to say the things I said.

My experiment was, how would nepali people react to some topic and not to others. Lets say for instant I bring the something sexy topic like Miss Nepal Usa
and lets see what would they say about "THE NEXT MAOIST ATTACK".

Well u all know the result but as u know the next maoist attack was in the valley as I predicted or related to valley.

You can define democracy and free speech in many ways but there is no such thing as true democracy and free speech.

Time for me to get a chicken nuggets for my lil kancha. Till next time

MRK


>Hi all,
>
>It's really interesting for me to watch how
>some of us react when this site gets invaded
>by not-so-palatable postings by our fellow
>Nepalis.
>
>Our reaction is this: we retreat. We keep
>quiet. We ask for protections. We
>get nervous. Or we pooh-pooh free speech
>advocates for being militant, and
>so on.
>
>My point is this: we need NOT do any of that
>but keep on posting. The only
>thing we need to fear is fear itself.
>
>Why?
>
>Because the bad may drive out the good.
>But only temporarily.
>
>In the long run, the good will win over the
>bad.
>We just have to have faith, and keep on
>doing one's good work.
>
>I mean, if our faith in sajha.com is broken/
>shaken/shattered by a few allowed khattam
>postings, then, maybe, you know, let's face
>it, our faith in this site
>and in our collective abilities was never
>really strong to begin with!!
>
>And I say that with more than 5 years of
>Internet posting history behind me.
>
>These not-so-palatable postings will have
>their 15 minutes and then lose steam
>alogether. That's the way it always has been;
> that's the way it will be here.
>Next week, this time, I am sure, there will
>be more thoughtful postings on this
>site than the garbage ones. That's the way
>free-for-all Web sites seem to go
>on -- in cyclical terms.
>
>On this site, for instance, you all know
>that I have been attacked so viciously and
>so maliciously in the past that looking back
>on the whole thing now seems quite amusing.
>But hey here I am -- still standing and
>smiling and posting and being productive and
>all that, while the anonymous attackers are
>nowhere to be
>seen. This is just one small example.
>
>So, sure, you can get your 15-minutes of
>fame on this site by attacking and spreading
>lies about other people or by posting
>graphic sex-related stuff, but
>you CANNOT sustain such stuff over a long
>haul.
>
>It's as simple as that.
>
>So, you, regular posters, let's not worry
>too much about having to wade through
>khattam postings here. Those postings too
>belong here because they reflect, in their
>own way, our Nepali mindset. And that's fine.
>

>It's just that they won't be here forever,
>and that the sun will come out -- slowly but
>surely.
>
>Here's a toast to the resiliency of sajha.
>com
>
>oohi
>ashu
>ktm,nepal
big d Posted on 15-Mar-02 06:37 PM

I also got to apologise for my "juvenile" behavior, Imma soften up.
Mildly Retarded Kancha Posted on 15-Mar-02 06:59 PM

Hi All,

Those Mcdonald's nuggets were Yummy my lil kancha loved it, he see's his future to be in the middle management of this company. What I meant to say in my last post was not clearly expressed by me so give me your eyes for two more minutes, first the quote from last post:

"This was an experiment as well but that does not give me any excuse to charcter assasinate people and I am truly sorry for that. I believe in free speech. And people should be able to express what ever way, shape or form they deem., As long as they dont break the rule of law. So if I have broken the rule of law then I am guilty as charged (England) and innocent till proven guilty (In usa). "

What I meant to say was I am guilty as charged (England), Innocent till proven Guilty (USA) and next future king (Nepal).

As you know all these three countries are democracy. So how do u define democracy in the point of view of crooks.

later

MRK
Mildly Retarded Kancha Posted on 15-Mar-02 07:02 PM

Hi All,

Those Mcdonald's nuggets were Yummy my lil kancha loved it, he see's his future to be in the middle management of this company. What I meant to say in my last post was not clearly expressed by me so give me your eyes for two more minutes, first the quote from last post:

"This was an experiment as well but that does not give me any excuse to charcter assasinate people and I am truly sorry for that. I believe in free speech. And people should be able to express what ever way, shape or form they deem., As long as they dont break the rule of law. So if I have broken the rule of law then I am guilty as charged (England) and innocent till proven guilty (In usa). "

What I meant to say was I am guilty as charged (England), Innocent till proven Guilty (USA) and future king of (Nepal).

As you know all these three countries are democracy. So how do u define democracy in the point of view of crooks.

later

MRK
makuro Posted on 17-Mar-02 01:33 PM

Dear What's up!

If I were refuting the postings of those untasteful posters, then I would have been contradicting myself. That I haven't done so. By ignoring, certainly, I dont' mean we should forfeit our rights to post, express and exchange our ideas. How did you get (idea) that ignoring those Hoooligans means keeping quiet and not posting! So i don't understand your accusation of ' you are against your saying' thing.

About attention your argument was since they are not using their real names thus they are not seeking attention. I don't think that is the case also. Attention we all love it. I am posting this to seek your attention because I love it too. And certainly my real name is not makuro.

At the end you wrote " My bottom line: Some friends who are posting those things are not seeking for attentions. Perhaps they are not satisfied with something, something right here in gbnc." If they are not happy(satisfied) with gbnc, are u suggesting it is ok to trash gbnc ? If ther is a problem in the house such as if the window is broken or door doesn't close, then we dont' go and burn the whole house do we? Similarly if they have serious discontent over gbnc, then they should voice their discontent in appropiate manner withour resorting to character assasination and pornography.
Koko Posted on 18-Mar-02 12:24 PM

I do not understand why people are so hell bent on having only registered people only. Why ? THe whole registering process is a sham anyway. Any Joe Shomo can go to any site and get an email account with fake name. then what are you going to do ? Ban them too ? I, for one still have not registered, and I don't plan on registering in the future. But I am a Nepli Boston resident, Does this men I won't be able to post here anymore ? I feel that people should not have to provide their life history or their John Hancock every time they want to say something. Of course unless if you are trying to market visitors information in exchange for $$. Right now we have a lotta posters, they might not make any sense to the intellects HERE. But we are not cutting off access Hari or Mohan, Ramkumar here. They have a voice tooo. Are we saying that those voices don't matter(like Nepali govt.) ??
Its funny to how all those folks that come in here quoting philosophers, politicians, femnists etc etc and take about turn on the very issues they love to and talk about when faced with it. It just show the true nature of the so called registrered posters here that TALK IS ALL THEY'RE GOOD FOR. So what if you can quote these people, if you cannot implement them in practicality in your real life then what good is that knowledge ? If this is truely a site FOR THE PEOPLE (as the logo claims), then its should welcome all Nepali people REGISTERED OR UNREGISTERED, obnnioxius OR NOT. We should not leave anyone behind.....
yourProblematicReponse Posted on 18-Mar-02 01:25 PM

The problem with your response all the time, Koko, is that you generalize
everything.You write things like "They come here and say this..", but ,hey, you
need to pointedly say your stuff, ok. Who said what? Which feminist said what?
etc. etc.
KOKO Posted on 18-Mar-02 01:52 PM

Koko,
The reason I say that is because I do not want personal involvement. I donot want to start a fight. I am just making a mere observations from the sidelines here. I hear people quoting all sorts of intellects from authors to philophers all the time(I will not give out names to feed egos). If you come here often enough y'all know what I'm talking about. Is this what this site is all about..... who said what and when and who where ?? If you want to start up a fight YEAH I will ask those questions. But I think we can do better than that.
yourProblematicResponse Posted on 18-Mar-02 02:00 PM

But Koko then your argument is rarely heard by anyone who you are pointing to.
Just like a lunatic ranting in Chakrapath goes unnoticed even when he is cursing
prime minister for 'taking away his wife'.
Koko Posted on 18-Mar-02 02:37 PM

Well,
You read it. Now thats a start. As I said I am not trying to get attention, start a fight, or gather support.....I am just a mere bystander making an observation. And as a member(of Nepali community) making a statement with something I do not agree with. I do not expect response, but if I see something I do not agree with of course I will voice my opinion(not to start anything).
As for the lunatic in Chakrapath....He is also Nepali isn't he ? Just because his significace to the society is negligible does not devalue is membership to our NEPALI society(after all he is human). We should not undermine anyone, I would pay attention to that lunatic beacuse that would affect how other lunatics are treated. IN ORDER FOR US TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE LUNATIC I WOULD PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT HE HAS TO SAY(its a learning process)