| Username |
Post |
| san |
Posted
on 15-Mar-02 01:20 AM
Dear Visitors,
Over the past couple of days, the site seemed to have been 'taken over' by posters who were showing no regards of others - using derogatory language and showing no respect to others.
Although I am an avid supporter of freedom, I support the freedom that respects each individuals right to be respected. I do not support the freedom in which anyone can bad mouth anyone and/or use derogatory terms just because it's their personal preference.
Having said that, I would like to welcome comments from visitors who respect others without having to stoop to a lowly level of writing foul language to express one's dissent, rather than participate in discussions in a mature way.
This site will seek to support a democratic community, not an anarchy.
Best Regards
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| _BP |
Posted
on 15-Mar-02 04:17 AM
San, I would not worry too much. This site has graduated, become popular, and is now like any other site with tons of visitors: with the whole range of humanity frequenting the site. As pointed out by Ashu in another string elsewhere, the key is not to be offended by profanity in some of the postings, as if we haven't heard or seen it elsewhere before. This stuff is rife in the real world, and Sajha is becoming more real world everyday. We ignore what we want to in real life, and we can do the same here.
I agree with your advice above. No one can argue with that. I just don't know how realizable it is. But come on, even I read some of the profane arguments that go back and forth here, by choice, because it is entertaining. But people who jump into the fray usually get included in the discussion, which is only natural. The bottom line is, we like to argue and discuss issues with others who think like us, regardless of how different we think they are. When people who really think differently than us jump into the fray, we get offended easily, or don't have anything to say...which may be the best response.
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| san |
Posted
on 15-Mar-02 05:40 AM
BP, I agree with you. The only point that I want to make is that although difference in ideas are welcome, outright offensive and derogatory comments are not.
Example at hand. Just because someone did not like a poster's opinion, he went on to say something to the extent, ... 'f.uck you bitch, s.uck my c.ock'. This is the type of posting that I have greivances against.
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| arnico |
Posted
on 15-Mar-02 09:23 AM
I completely agree with San's concern. _BP, it is not just a matter having fun, it is a problem of people who put time and energy into writing their genuine thoughts getting sh*t thrown in their face. It is a problem of friendly discussions degenerating to the point where the discussions cannot go on. And it is a problem of San ultimately being responsible for what is being hosted on his site. Yes, the site now reflects a wider range of realworld characters and vocabulary... but the real world does not have everything mixed together in one place either. It may be a bad analogy, but you don't usually find people shouting profanities and insults inside a gompa or a church, do you?
I know this has been brought up before, and I will bring it up again: I believe that the only way to avoid personal attacks, insults, and offensive language is to only allow registered users to post messages. Let anyone read, but if you want to post, you have to log in. Then the administrator can trace people's e-mail addresses, making people more accountable for what they post (just look at what fraction of nasty posts come from non-registered users!). Much easier than tracking IP numbers of people who use multiple machines.
I have read/posted on/watched a large number of internet bulletin boards, and have found that they have all resorted to this in order to clean up the contents and to avoid chasing away valuable contributors. San, let me know if you want me to cite examples.
Perhaps one precaution, given the political situation in Nepal today: let the database of e-mail addresses/passwords/poster identities be hosted behind a firewall on a machine in the US that cannot be remote accessed from Nepal. And let that be known to all. That way, there is no point for Maoists or the police to kidnap/arrest San to try to learn the identity of anti-Maoist or anti-Monarchist or anti-Deuba posters on this site.
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| Suna |
Posted
on 15-Mar-02 09:35 AM
Arnico,
Yes, I think the time has come to let only registered users post on some threads. Maybe cater to the needs of a section of our society which still needs a place to spit out bile and have an "open" discussion there.
I think anepali kt had asked San for some (a) ip address and I am also tempted to do so. I do not feel safe knowing that the person who addressed me in such a vile manner knows specifics of my life and if thats the case then it goes way over the disclaimers posted on GBNC/SAJHA.
I refuse to call this fun and deplore any body's sense of "fun" in these types of attacks.
Time to make a stand against this "trait" of our society. This can start right now and here!!
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| _BP |
Posted
on 15-Mar-02 04:37 PM
True, true. I am all for curbing this mindless profanity. As you know from early on I was all for having registration be mandatory on this site and making it hard for such postings. At least it will prevent people from having to "react" to such attacks, and providing more "fuel to the fire." I find it amusing when someone calls Arnico an "idiot" for example, being familiar with his background a little. But I suppose it would be different if it were me. I am just putting forth the idea that in case we cannot rid this site of all such activity, it is not a big loss for this site. In other words, the "State of Sajha.com" is still good.
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| arnico |
Posted
on 15-Mar-02 04:44 PM
>fire." I find it amusing when someone calls
>Arnico an "idiot" for example, being
>familiar with his background a little.
of course I am an idiot. What are you talking about ?
:)
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| bhasu |
Posted
on 15-Mar-02 05:12 PM
It is sad that we cannot discuss things without getting into an argument. We have to learn to agree to disagree in lot of cases.
There will always be people that will attack others by utilizing all sorts of expletives and there will always be those that will get offended by simple things such as the use of the words, "hell", "damn", and such.
San, I think the majority of the visitors of this site are intelligent and thoughtful people and don't let the minority dictate the direction of this site...
BTW ... why don't you program in the "bad words" filter?
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| Mildly Retarded Kancha |
Posted
on 15-Mar-02 05:38 PM
Dear all,
I am the source of all this discussion, I should not have used some words as well as character assasination in few of my posting. It was wrong on my part to do so,
And I had appolozized for my act. If thats not enough let me know. You can email me: ronniew77@hotmail.com
In my opinion people should not abuse the power in what ever form or shape. And I thought power was being abused. I may be wrong here and I snaped. May be thats my style but it still does not give me the right to say crazy things about others.
This was one of my experimentation and it worked well. My goal was to find how people would react or respond to different kinds of topic. If you want to know about my findings email me.
Once again I am sorry to all who might be offended by my past posting. Enjoy your weekend and see u all soon.
MRK
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 16-Mar-02 03:52 PM
When someone apologize, we should close the matter. It is esp significant when
a man(woman) who is using a fake name so that no one knows him/her is
apologizing. It is very likely that the person really thought that what he/she was
doing was wrong.
If I am wrong, please inform me MRK.
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| NK |
Posted
on 17-Mar-02 01:54 PM
San, if I were you I would give a full consideration to Arnico's suggestion:"allow only registered users to post messages."
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| Mildly Retarded Kancha |
Posted
on 17-Mar-02 09:30 PM
If Sajha wants to ban people and their post, here is my suggestion.
Define Sajha purpose clearly (lets say that you believe in democracy but practice autocracy) because the last time i read "about sajha" there was no clear guidelines of what can be posted.
Call it your self Sajha PRIVATE LTD instead of Sajha, because the your intentions are deceiving.
Or have memembership kinda thing so I can only respond to someone's post if I am asked to. Not when or how I want to.
If you want to go that way why not just do it and have the whole thing to yourself so you can play your lil pranks and self indulge with a smart comments you made to your exclusive group.
People might post porn or other stuff but was that allowed? If you want to ban porn just say in the guidelines that no porn allowed, end of story. You cannot just give a key of a candy store to a kid and tell him to have one candy. It does not work that way. Either you make the clear guidelines of what can be posted or just make it a exclusive club, let say a country club and admit one or two black person who think the way you think or the way you want them to think.
IN Free Expression I Trust.
MRK
>San, if I were you I would give a full
>consideration to Arnico's suggestion:"allow
>only registered users to post messages."
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| Mildly Retarded Kancha |
Posted
on 17-Mar-02 10:39 PM
Dear Biswo,
You are not wrong. I was sorry for the way i used words that hurt some people. I never wanted to do that in the first place, I was banned for about two days.
My only purpose for posting here today is that the power of admin should not be abused or some friends of admin should not take advantage of the situation. I dont know if there was anything wrong done in that regards but I sincerely felt that admin power were being abused at that moment and I commented.
But if you look at the larger picture, my comments had made some difference in the way you think now about sajha. Once again if sajha is a free forum let it be that way or at least have a guidelines for posters. Because as of now there are non.And I see some folks being banned and their post taken away. I think thats wrong again, and in my point of view its abuse of power again. Either you like it or not you cannot just say that you are democracy and rule like autocracy. Why should someone be banned from posting here? If this was meant to be a public forum, let it be that way and not abuse the power by banning people.
Once again the power should not be abused, in any way, form or shape.
MRK
>When someone apologize, we should close the
>matter. It is esp significant when
>a man(woman) who is using a fake name so
>that no one knows him/her is
>apologizing. It is very likely that the
>person really thought that what he/she was
>doing was wrong.
>
>If I am wrong, please inform me MRK.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 17-Mar-02 10:49 PM
Dear MRK:
I understand your concern. I have my sympathy for you too. I guess at times your
postings sounded too racial, sexist and risque to people. You can't blame others
for this collective perception about your posting, and I laud you for the way you
assumed responsibility and apologized.
Like you, I am also concerned about abuse of administrative power. Forgive me,
but I still see your decent postings, and if postings like link to porno sites and
personal attacks (like ta ta ra ma ma, phohori gaali etc) are removed, then the
reason behind this is because this Kurakani is G rated. People , including teenagers,
read this, so why not make it little bit sanitated? If it is not stated as policy, then
this is something like 'constitution of England' (honored by long tradition!).So,
please respect this wish of other of your fellow posters.
I enjoyed some of your funny postings. I hope they represented your true self,
and I am looking forward to reading them in future.
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| suna |
Posted
on 18-Mar-02 09:22 AM
MRK
I have seen apologies flying from you all over the place and had decided not to reply but since I was the sole one targetted here (apart from trashing San's name), I want a few clarifications from you which may save us both a lot of headache and money. Before that, I want to reconfirm some things that most women posters MAY feel.
Our personal and private lives are our own. What we may be away from this forum is of no concern nor of interest to anyone of you nor will it directly influence your life. When we post here, we do it in the name of socializing,learning and providing information. We do not post here so our personal lives are trashed and distorted by a few.
1. While trying to prove that JDV and I were the same, you went on to say that i had had a couple of husbands, spoke french and had a boy toy(disgusting term!). What was your point and how was that related to your posting?
2. You claimed that I was having a "thing" with San. Prove it!
3. You stated that I was full of bull or maybe tried to sound like someone who knew stuff. Prove that I am full of bull.
I was offended by all of these three points and would like to be addressed personally for them. You started this, therefore. end it like a man.
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| Biswo |
Posted
on 18-Mar-02 09:56 AM
Dear MRK:
Let's listen your defense regarding Suna's questions. You need to answer them,
man.
I think you goofed up. You just thought you were 'free' to say/write whatever you
wanted. Sadder thing is you made a girl the target. May be because most Nepalese male are misogynist, sexist and relish to make fun of women. Because
they think they had nothing to lose, and because they think women can't fight
back.
I still suggest you to mend fences with her. Say sorry for what you wrote without
thinking 'then'. That will be a good step to move forward.Everybody is good at
heart. I hope you will prove this.
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| Sangey |
Posted
on 18-Mar-02 10:08 AM
And just to drive home the point, MRK, please note that there are lot of folks like me who are waiting to hear your explanation. Please do so at the earliest.
Communally, what you have done is quite reprehensible in the name of free speech. But even more so, being a friend of Sunakhari, I personally am offended by your behavior. Address those issues asap or face the consequences. Please.
Sangey.
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| Nepe |
Posted
on 18-Mar-02 12:53 PM
MRK is certainly a smart guy. Some of his arguments are interesting too. Now I am waiting to understand why he decided to abuse himself. I am waiting to hear your response to Suna, MRK. Please don’t hide your face under the veil of blanket apology. It does not cut.
Nepe
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| ashu |
Posted
on 18-Mar-02 01:46 PM
MRK has dug a slyly clever verbal hole (using, of course, provocative means),
and Sunakhari, in her righteous indignation, has led all her supporters right
into it.
Oh, what a day!!
Who is MRK?
S/he is an ANONYMOUS poster who is itching to piss off a few people.
Who's Sunakhari?
S/he is also an ANONYMOUS poster who asks that lies (or so one assumes)
against her/him to be proven in public by her anonymous foe.
Two ANONYMOUS posters trashing one another, and the only result is
some entertainment because no VERIFIABLE truth is going to come out, and
that's that.
I mean, even if this anonymous MRK "proves" that anonymous Sunakhari has two husbands, is that instantly credible?
I think NOT.
And I thought that the whole point of being anonymous or using pesudonyms
here is to PROTECT your real name and your real personas from any social/emotional damage.
If this is not, then, why not use your own names when posting stuff?
As a sajha.com visitor, I would worry about and relentlessly defend ONLY and ONLY instances in which real people who use real names here get unjustifiably trashed and attacked. That's a serious no-no.
For everyone else, take a deep breath and relax.
Unless you blow your own cover by providing too many personal details, your anonymity provides you with enough protections so that you can't be bothered about a few attacks here and there.
Of course, if you insist on taking personal offence on behalf of your FALSE Web persona, then, the only emotional energy wasted will be yours and yours alone.
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| suna |
Posted
on 18-Mar-02 02:35 PM
Ashu
GET BUSY and FIND SOME MORE LINKS TO POST. You are getting yourself into unwanted territories. But wait, who am I replying to?? the GREAT ASHU who usually avoids my postings because he thinks I'm not up to his calibre as I don't disclose my name???Why are you suddenly interested in my affairs? Why are you so insecure about our web personas??
Do you think anybody cares about what you YOU deem credible or not?
If I feel anyone on this site is WORTHY of knowing me personally or is DECENT enough for my TASTE then I will CHOOSE to disclose who I am. For the rest, I am suna and that should suffice!
I don't need your little digs ASHU. I am not up for your little games. I detest stupid little games knowing that if I am really pissed at you, I won't be able to hop onto a plane and come have it out in person with you. I am the type who likes to have a WOMAN TO MAN type. GO FIGURE!
AND PLEASE, practise what you preach!!
"Of course, if you insist on taking personal offence on behalf of your FALSE Web persona, then, the only emotional energy wasted will be yours and yours alone." It hasn't been long and maybe San can help refresh your memories about the countless rounds of arguments you had with others on this site.
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| suna |
Posted
on 18-Mar-02 02:37 PM
and while you're at it, correct and read:
"I am the type who likes to have a WOMAN TO MAN type. GO FIGURE! "
I am the type who likes to have a WOMAN to MAN talk. Go Figure.
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| Mildly Retarded Kancha |
Posted
on 18-Mar-02 06:08 PM
Dear All,
I hope this reply was not the most anticipated thing for most of you today. For the final time I would like to say this, I did not have sex with that women, Lewinsky. Man that was my favorite quote from Bill Clinton. Oh wait, this one is even better "Read My lips, I am not gonna raise your taxes" oh boy was Bush senior in big trouble after saying that.
Ok now to the questions and answer session.
You in the Front row, Ms. Barbara Walters what is your question for President of Mildly Retarded Country, MRK
Mr. President: While trying to prove that JDV and Suna were
the same, you went on to say that I had had
a couple of husbands, spoke French and had a
boy toy(disgusting term!). What was your
point and how was that related to your
posting?
MRK: Oh Nelly, I knew that was coming. Thanks Ms. Walters, my points were based on the circumstantial evidence, while surfing through Sajha, I came across this French learners club and saw lots of posting from Sunakhari I hope they are the same person if not I am guilty and that’s how I guessed that she must be fluently in French again that’s only circumstantial. Regarding JDV and Suna being same person, again that’s circumstantial, if you all clearly read my previous posting and posting of JDV and SUNA in Soul Mate Wanted, I first mentioned that either SUNA and JDV knew each others passwords, or are good friends or same person and they later agreed that they were pulling the prank or one of them was puling the prank on other. Again this is all circumstantial. Regarding husbands I have no proof, this was a big mistake on my part I should have restrained myself from that one. Thanks.
Ari Flisher: Ok, before going to the next question, Mr. President would like to make a statement.
MRK: Dear fellow mildly retarded Citizens; the bombing of Chinese embassy in Belgrade was a mistake. We regret having sent that cruise missile. Our goal was to hit a Serb Munitions depot but I guess our map was not updated or were having problem login and would log differently, should have updated the system but I take full responsibility and it was hard to divert the missile, it was too late.
Ok Back to questions:
You sir, yes you from CNN Mr. Blitzer what’s your question for the President MRK.
Mr. President: You claimed that I was having a "thing"
with San. Prove it!
Again Mr. Blitzer, please read my statement above, sometimes there are civilian casualties in war. It was an honest mistake. I thought the map and evidence were accurate and I launch the missile but later realized that it had hit the Chinese embassy not the Serb Munitions depot. I am just human like you, I make mistake just like you. So once again I want to say sorry to the families of those hard working folks in China, who were killed by my unintentional cruise missile.
Next question, yes you sir, you with long hair, Mr. Howard Stern. Yes Mr. Stern, what is your question for Mr. President?
Howard Stern: Yes Mr. Retarded, I mean president, You stated that I was full of bull or maybe tried to sound like someone who knew
stuff. Prove that I am full of bull?
MRK: Howard I am disappointed, I thought you were gonna call me Bubba or Slick Willy, oh well that’s for loving. Again Howard I have no proof that you are full of bull, I just listen to your radio show every once in a while when I get a chance. Most of your comments are posted in sajha.com so I deduce my reading from that. But I do not have any concrete evidence that you are full of bull. Again If I have hurt you by saying that you are full of bull, Howard just get out of your system, and accept my appolizies. Thanks.
Ari Flisher: Ok folks that’s all for this session of Q&A. I sincerely hope that answered all your questions. Now Mr. President has to go to University of Welfare to give a lecture on middle management. Which is good for our retarded country.
Once again thank you all.
MRK
>MRK
>I have seen apologies flying from you all
>over the place and had decided not to reply
>but since I was the sole one targetted here (
>apart from trashing San's name), I want a
>few clarifications from you which may save
>us both a lot of headache and money. Before
>that, I want to reconfirm some things that
>most women posters MAY feel.
>
>Our personal and private lives are our own.
>What we may be away from this forum is of no
>concern nor of interest to anyone of you nor
>will it directly influence your life. When
>we post here, we do it in the name of
>socializing,learning and providing
>information. We do not post here so our
>personal lives are trashed and distorted by
>a few.
>
>1. While trying to prove that JDV and I were
>the same, you went on to say that i had had
>a couple of husbands, spoke french and had a
>boy toy(disgusting term!). What was your
>point and how was that related to your
>posting?
>2. You claimed that I was having a "thing"
>with San. Prove it!
>3. You stated that I was full of bull or
>maybe tried to sound like someone who knew
>stuff. Prove that I am full of bull.
>
>I was offended by all of these three points
>and would like to be addressed personally
>for them. You started this, therefore. end
>it like a man.
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| NK |
Posted
on 18-Mar-02 06:50 PM
Hahaha@Fully Retarded oops, make that mildy retarded Kancha.
Suna, I ask for your forgiveness. Will you?
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| gaunle |
Posted
on 18-Mar-02 07:12 PM
Some of you guys have suggested San to allow ONLY registered users to post messages. Since San can track posters by IP address, it does not make any difference for HIM if you are registered or not. Also, there are many users who have registered using different user names, San knows that too. All you need is an email account. Whether you're registered user or not, all San can track is where you are located, but not who you are unless you tell him or use real name.
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| ashu |
Posted
on 18-Mar-02 08:17 PM
Thank you Sunakhari-ji for your comments.
Enjoyed reading them.
Thank you.
Unlike Sangey, I do not know you personally and that's fine. But do enjoy
your anonymity -- with that wonderful name Sunakhari.
Even if, as per your command, this anonymous MRK guy somehow "proves"
that you have two husbands and so on here, rest assured that I, for one,
am NOT going to believe any of that.
So, you are free to miss my point and rant and rave against me and squander your emotional energy all the more. That is your problem.
But the only way I can continue to pay your anonymous-self respect is by REFUSING to believe these attacks against you. I am sure there are many reasonable sajha dot comers who do NOT believe these garbage against
you. You just have to have faith that there ARE any good people out
there who outnumber MRK by heaps.
As I have said before, smear campaigns against you or me or against
anyone else just does NOT work here on sajha.com.
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| ashu |
Posted
on 18-Mar-02 08:19 PM
Thank you Sunakhari-ji for your comments.
Enjoyed reading them.
Thank you.
Unlike Sangey, I do not know you personally and that's fine. But do enjoy
your anonymity -- with that wonderful name Sunakhari.
Even if, as per your command, this anonymous MRK guy somehow "proves"
that you have two husbands and so on here, rest assured that I, for one,
am NOT going to believe any of that.
So, you are free to miss my point and rant and rave against me and squander your emotional energy all the more. That is your problem.
But the only way I can continue to pay your anonymous-self respect is by REFUSING to believe these attacks against you. I am sure there are many reasonable sajha dot comers who do NOT believe these garbage against
you. You just have to have faith that there ARE any good people out
there who outnumber MRK by heaps.
As I have said before, smear campaigns against you or me or against
anyone else just does NOT work here on sajha.com.
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| suna |
Posted
on 18-Mar-02 08:45 PM
I just drank a cup of tea with 3 spoons of sugar!!
UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHh
I hate the taste of sugar.....tastes bitter when taken in huge doses!!
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| Nepe |
Posted
on 18-Mar-02 11:44 PM
I still do not see MRK looking straight into Suna’s eyes (There seems a mild ego preventing to do so). However, perhaps he said enough.
=============================================
Ashuji’s refusal to give recognition to anonymous self/personality/life is a disappointment to me. I understand Ashu’s point that real name and anonymous name differ by VERIFIABILITY. But let’s not forget that when VERIFIABILITY is not a question at hand, there is no difference between them in the cyberworld of kurakani. I can not differentiate between, for example, Ashu, Biswo and Namita Kiran, and Suna, Sally, JDV and Paschim, and oh yes, Nepe. To me, all of them are real persons with distinct personalities, emotions and private lives. If they were not, I would not be writing this.
That said, a friction between two anonymous persons is emotionally the same as that between two real persons. Perhaps, that between a real and an anonymous person is different (Ashu might be right right here). Therefore Suna questioning MRK does not have to be dimissed. Both of them are virtually real persons. Virtual reality is virtual but also real.
Nepe
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| ashu |
Posted
on 19-Mar-02 02:32 AM
Nepe,
I would assume that someone as rational as Sunakhari uses that name here
on the Web PRECISELY to protect her real self from being hurt by these silly
attacks. Else, why would she not post in her real name, right?
As long as some fictitious name is voluntarily being dissed by ANOTHER fictitious name in a public forum, that's NOT an exchange of truth: that's simply low-level entertainment which you can read or not read about.
But on seeing that, why should the rest of us then start chanting about community standards and the rest? We don't need to do that. Let them sort it out between themselves, for Christ's sake!!
Sajha.com -- like the real world -- is NOT a risk-free forum, and some of the postings here may be injurious to one's sense of self, and to one's sense of
self-esteem. Let's accept this REALITY.
I'd leave it up to Sunakhari, in this case, to sort out for herself how she wants
to deal with those attacks . . . but, at the very least, going by the evidence, her asking MRK to "prove" those allegations have only, as far as I can see, given MRK an upper-hand to reduce the whole thing to a level of sheer absurdity, further making fun of Sunakhari. So, I am not sure what exactly Sunakhari gained here anyway, though she can continue asking for proofs and more.
Community standards, allow me to remind you, can ONLY take root when
members of that community are verifiable and identifiable and are accountable to one another. That is why, schools, colleges and offices and hospitals -- all
CLOSED communities, mind you -- have their own rigidly enforced community
standards.
But in an OPEN forum like this -- where we don't know one poster from the
next -- talking about community standards like trying to be a substitute for Atlas, trying to an impossible task. Sure, it's desirable and makes us all warm and good all over, but enforcing such standards are hopelessly khattam UNLESS a clear
and unambiguous ownership is asserted (by San).
Meantime, all we can VOLUNTARILY and HONESTLY keep on doing is:
a) encourage people to assume anonymous identities, if that's what makes
them feel comfortable to post stuff.
b) remind people that posting on sajha.com is NOT risk-free, and that they post
at their own risks.
c) remind people that they are NOT going to like everything they read and
hear here.
d) remind people that in the event of whatever damage between them and other posters, the posters themselves, as individuals, bear all the costs -- emotional, social and the rest.
At the end of the day, let's face it, it's a tough world.
And we might as well learn how to live in it -- online and offline.
That said, the best way to drive out khattam postings is NOT by asking for protections, but by ignoring them in this OPEN forum.
After all, I'd estimate that only 5 per cent of the postings here belong to that category, and the rest of the 95 per cent of stuff is of great quality.
To argue that 5 per cent can eventually drive out 95 per cent, and hence need protections is to UNDERESTIMATE, demean, disparage and even insult the social and intellectual capital that many who are among the 95 per centers have long been voluntarily providing to this cyber-community.
oohi
"yes, I type quite fast" :-)
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| Manus |
Posted
on 19-Mar-02 09:46 AM
PEOPLE CAN WE GET ALONG !
bLING bLING ! This is like Tamasaa in Ratna Park. y'ALL BUGGIN' Do these folks even know each other ? This is a perfect example of He said She said(Clash of the egos). People are taking this a bit too far. Man bringing PERSONAL MAMALAS HERE IS JUST WRONG(Ashu perpect example). Disclosing personal information(about someone else LIKE ASHU DID TO NK) is also wrong(could be suedfor causing emotional distress). But most people assume things LIKE MRK assumed.....but unless it if that arrow hits the bullseye of egotistic people....it will just faze away(because that information is wrong anyway). Its funny how people get sooo consumed in what others say.....Most of the time you don't even know these people....Does it even matter ? tHIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF "HEIGHT OF PARANOIA"
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| joie de vivre |
Posted
on 19-Mar-02 10:12 AM
Quite the double-talker isn’t he? I’m sure most of us will remember that not too long ago, Ashu demanded some poster to furnish proof that he was/wasn’t a mental case. As for his comment that Suna and MRK should sort it out themselves, I’ve never heard anything funnier. Wasn’t it Ashu who brought the whole issue of his receiving hate-emails to the forum? If I remember correctly, he said he’d rather talk it out here than engage in a battle of emails.
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| Manus |
Posted
on 19-Mar-02 10:34 AM
He was also the first one to bring Personal mamala here ...him and his stalemate with his former room-mates. HE is a hypocrite. I wouldn't take one bit advice from him. He is just full of crap thats all(even Harvard breeds insecure and of course egotisitc humans).
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| Ashu's fan |
Posted
on 19-Mar-02 10:30 PM
Dear JDV and Manus,
You people are badmouthing at Ashuji out of jealousy. Perhaps you don’t like fame and respect he is getting from sajaha.com visitors. His all postings are meaningful, based on truth, encouraging and worthy. Since you guys could not get respect and attentions as he is getting from sajha.com visitors, you people are bad mouthing him.
You should have real guts to reveal your identity as Ashuji is doing. Nevertheless it’s your right to post anything on this open forum, but try to respect others as well. Do not try to disgrace anyone just because you MIGHT have personal differences.
Ashu’s fan
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| Manus |
Posted
on 20-Mar-02 09:24 AM
Ashu's Fan,
Before you start blindly defending someone blindly...look at the facts. Bad mouthing him ? Go back to the past threads..... reead blindman. JELOUS OF HIM ?? Gotta be kiddin' me. I would not want to be in his shoes for even a second. Mr insecure, self proclaimed intellect. Any Nepali can be like him if they had the time and resouces. I would never evrrr evrrrrr evrrrrrrr want his kind of attention. Talking about revealing identities look in the mirror MR ASHU'S FAN.
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| test1234 |
Posted
on 22-Mar-02 03:46 PM
I was just wondering. If the registration on sajha is working. Coz it seems that the nick i want to register are having problem registering. Does one has to be a registered person to post here. waiting for answers. Thanks
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| test1234 |
Posted
on 22-Mar-02 03:51 PM
I guess u can just post here without registering. sorry to bother all, but are some ip addresses blocked? Or some people are banned to post it here? Well since this is a private property i guess its alright to block people.
thanks
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| JhismiseBihani |
Posted
on 22-Mar-02 05:11 PM
Ashuji,
I humbly beg to differ with you on this issue. I think Suna is right in demanding an explanation for the peronal attacks she suffered from MRK. I would have agreed with you had MRK been just attacking her beliefs or ideas but the attacks were personal and although, as you said, this is a sample of the real world, it does not make such personal attacks right or justified.
We cannot fight against every wrong that's out there in the world but we must fight those wrongs and defend basic sense of social ethics whenever we can
no matter how insignificant they migth at that time. We should stop making excuses for these recklessness in our society which I have been seeing since I was in school in KTM and I am tired of it.
Suna should have and did voiced her anger because sometimes its ok to be angry instead of just letting others walk all over you.
sincerely,
JM
p.s. I enjoy reading your postings by the way.
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