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| ashu |
Posted
on 20-Mar-02 11:13 PM
San,
Our friend Paschim's "prem rog" thing is getting unbearable.
Surely a solution exists to such a problem.
I think it's fair to say that no smart, witty, well-paid, well-educated and globe-trotting single Nepali male with a bright future such as Paschim should be
deprived of female company which may well turn into a life-long, married relationship.
May I then, San, on behalf of Paschim and hundreds of others like him, request you to kindly start a prominently displayed matrimonial section right here on sajha.com so that Nepali visitors who are singles/divorced/separated can start
to take those first tentative steps toward finding potential spouses of their dreams?
What say you?
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| DSharma |
Posted
on 20-Mar-02 11:39 PM
ashu, i am curious now...
are u also in a position like Paschim????
just curious...and nothing else.....
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| Revival |
Posted
on 20-Mar-02 11:46 PM
Ashu,
I don't know if you know this or not but there is a site called http://www.nepallove.com I am guessing that site is also maintained by San.
San: correct me if I am wrong.
Check it out !
Waiting for a new beginning...
Revival
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| Paschim |
Posted
on 21-Mar-02 02:52 AM
Talk about a friendly provocation...the reason it’s often hard to disagree with Ashu’s prolific musings is that they are so utterly representative of a caucus within a Nepali generation that he and I are both part of. These causes that he takes up in the laudable spirit of camaraderie and patronage embody such accurate portions of shared pain and joy that one is forced to wonder, would he really be able to be fair to his friends’ woes if he didn’t feel these agonies most intimately himself?! So, thanks, Ashu, but you must allow me to say, good luck, too :)
Just came from a refreshing working lunch with Joe Stiglitz. Amidst the technical discussions on SDRs (special drawing rights) and an innovative menu of financing global public goods (in the context of the ongoing Monterrey Summit), I couldn’t stop thinking, why did this guy just dump Stanford, shun Harvard, and settle for Columbia after deciding to go back to academia following ten years of policy flirtation in DC? Columbia, I assure you, is a fine educational establishment, but his choice was hardly influenced by its tradition of scholarship. I was told, this 60-year Nobel Laureate had divorced recently; but just found a new girl, the new girl works in New York, and she'd rather dump Joe than move cities!
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On a serious note though, despite all this light-hearted hullabaloo (my way of defeating boredom and exaggerated seriousness in life), I’m doing very fine on this front. How are you doing?
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| NK |
Posted
on 21-Mar-02 05:25 AM
hmmmmm psychologists call this phonomemon projection?
Projection is as Freud says:
"A defense mechanism in which the individual attributes to other people impulses and traits that he himself has but cannot accept. "
As I read more about 'projection' I realize it is mostly a negative trait. All I wanted to say is Ashu, what you are feeling you are projecting unto Pachim, maybe ? :)
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| Nepe |
Posted
on 21-Mar-02 12:53 PM
Paschim,You are so sweet to read. When Ashu uses plastic coated bullet, you use sugar coated bullet. And you don’t misfire. Don’t know much about Joe. Not my field of expertise.
NK, you have got hold of a Brahma astra. I wish I were your disciple. I probably will try to be a Yekalabya. I have a question, though. Is there a higher grade weapon ? What about ‘projection’ of a ‘projection’ ?
Nepe
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| NK |
Posted
on 21-Mar-02 01:22 PM
hmmmmmmmmm.......
(shh... I am thinking)
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| Suna |
Posted
on 21-Mar-02 01:32 PM
Paschim
Never ceases to amaze me :) and NEPE YOU ARE RIGHT, this time it was those sugar coated bullets that caught me by surprise.
Ma chai guru thapna paryo.
:)
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| Manus |
Posted
on 21-Mar-02 02:52 PM
Through all the years I had known him(@massachusetts), I never saw him in presence of a female(girlfriend). Hhhmmmmm... Now this makes me think.....
I have read about him not having social skills somewhere here in past. Makes sense of NK's analogy. Using Pashim as a vehicle to project himself maybe BLING BLING!!
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| ashu |
Posted
on 21-Mar-02 07:34 PM
Paschim,
A lunch with Joe Stiglitz?
Some people have all the luck :-)
I only get to read his syndicated musings in The Nepali Times.
NK,
Enjoyed your foray into psychoanalysis.
Now, if you could please explain, using Freud as your guide, why some people have this atavistic predilection to fall into these hopelessly romantic long-distance relationships (which are, by nature, high on longing and low on intimacy) one after another, that'd be very comforting :-)
Maybe like Mr. Stiglitz, I should also change cities and move to that cosy apartment on Rue Mouffetard.
Oh well.
Manus,
Was amused by your "because I saw this about him, this must be true" kind
of reasoning in public. Or, for that matter, "because I have heard this about
him, this must be true" kind of swagger.
Very interesting, my friend!!
Stretching your kind of logic further, should I then say in public that I have
heard and seen that if you drop that letter 'm' from Manus-ji's name, his
true personality shines through for all of us to enjoy?
Keep up the good work!!
San ad others,
Nepallove.com is fine and good for those seeking romance and spice.
Still, a prominently displayed matrimonial section could go a long way
to -- ahem!! -- attract more visitors, both nubile and not-so-nubile, to
this site.
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| Paschim |
Posted
on 21-Mar-02 08:47 PM
Ashu, that lunch with the Nobel laureate wasn’t exactly one-on-one, it was with a small group of us, although I do now have the good fortune of just having published a paper in an edited volume where his paper also appears. Anyway, my inflated ego aside, it is the love lives of these celebrity scholars that I’ve been finding more fascinating these days than their words of wisdom, which after a threshold, just starts to become predictable. Another Nobel Laureate, Amartya Sen, of three wives fame (Nabnita Devi, Eva Colorni, and Emma Rothschilds) for example, has been a particular disappointment recently when it comes to novelty of ideas.
Didn’t really intend the good-natured charge of ‘projection’ against Ashu to be over-stretched, but he did fall in the trap by adorning me with all the ‘qualifications’ that suit him more. While we’re all honing our senses of vanity, I’ll add the most flattering ‘fan mail’ I have ever received from an anonymous correspondent: “Paschim, You don’t know me, but I’ve seen you, and you’re a replica of Rahul Khanna. Can I please be the mother of your child?” And that word ‘please’ was italicized, colored, and underlined :)
My very new romantic interest (I only work on one project at a time) lives in a different time zone. So dates are to be fixed two months in advance at locations like the Arrival lounges of airports in Goa, Maldives or Bali. But the “high on longing, low on intimacy” characterization of Ashu’s long-distance pursuits isn’t that bad when you factor in a fact that “distance nurtures the best forms of fondness.” But if it becomes a pattern, as you admit, I guess one just has to “find locally, act locally” :)
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| mit_guy |
Posted
on 21-Mar-02 10:27 PM
guys ...guys... if the thread on matrimonials (to which I can't add much) is turning into a discussion of long-distance relationships (of which I have experienced way too much) or braggings about meals with Nobel laureates, well then I have to jump in too... after all I am having dinner with Oscar Arias tomorrow evening, along with Mario Molina...
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| ashu |
Posted
on 22-Mar-02 02:20 AM
Paschim,
Delighted to hear about your paper.
Congrats!!
Look forward to reading it at some time.
The only way for us to get ahead is to publish, publish and publish.
BTW, I thought Rothschilds is Sen's fourth wife. Then again, you never know with these world-famous professors who stride onstage with a halo around their head, and always around a bevy of comely graduate female students and more, who follow them the way, say, sultry Brazilian fashion models run after Mick Jagger.
***
Re: "distance nurtures the best forms of fondness", well, I used to believe that too, until reality threw cold water upon me some years ago when a then
object of my affection (long-distance) ran off with someone who started out sharing her office space and eventually her heart :-)
It was devastating at the time, but now I look back, smile and nd think that
the whole thing has become, in its own exaggerated importance, merely
useful background for perhaps a Samrat Upadhyay-like short story
someday!!
Still, you never know with these long-distance business.
Life happens, you know.
That said, San, any thoughts on starting this Matrimonial section?
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| Paschim |
Posted
on 22-Mar-02 05:04 AM
Mit_guy, do let us know what the 1987 Nobel Laureate Oscar Arias tells you about how they've used research from the MIT labs in atmospheric sciences to tame pollution levels in Costa Rica, and also what his views are on your leaving behind your lovely significant other back in Cambridge when you are frolicking in the beaches of Costa Rica with unidentifiable representatives of the other sex :)
And Ashu, losing Nepali women to third parties is so documented a phenomenon that even Dilli Bhurtel had this to report from Hanoi in his last letter to Gaunthali:
"He called himself Kautilya, after the Indian Machiavelli who helped Chandragupta Maurya ascend to the Nanda throne, circa 321 BC...Two of his past goddesses, he claimed, had eloped with old Sikh men from Ludhiyana. He had his own guess about why deceptively decent Nepali girls prefer colorful Punjabi turbans to the disarming simplicity of Nepali men, but he didn’t elaborate."
As his creator, I think I know what Bhurtel is talking about. As I said someplace else, too often, art imitates life :)
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| Manus |
Posted
on 22-Mar-02 09:01 AM
Ashu dai,
Just like you dropped the M from my name and add it to your name..
M+ashu= Mashu
But if we break it up and add another AS
Mashu= MA ASS HU
Just like you have your resources(for info.), we all have ours. I trust mine just like you do yours. I have never judged your reporting on any matter. Hope you'd do the same. I was reporting facts given to me by a group of people. Now if you have problem with that then attack the facts not my name Almighty Ashu Dai. I have READ a lot of posts by you reg. personal attacks. PLEASE PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH ASHU DAI....
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| Pokche Prasad Pyakhurel |
Posted
on 22-Mar-02 09:12 AM
Seems like the thread veered off on a tangent from the intial post.
Maybe the first matrimonial could be this old chestnut?- "Age no bar, caste no bar, sex barambar".
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| dasein |
Posted
on 22-Mar-02 09:17 AM
Manus,
quit talking about add-drops, do you realise what your name turns into when we take off the M at the front ?
Answer: Anus
please spare the details of real lives of the posters on this board, they're mostly boring.
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| Manus |
Posted
on 22-Mar-02 02:32 PM
Oh yeah Mr Da Sein,
Ooooh I really really did not know that all my life I had find a IDLE smartass like you to point it out. thanks
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| ashu |
Posted
on 22-Mar-02 09:09 PM
Manus Bhai, Since I care about my Bhais' intellectual growth, this posting is specially for you.
You wrote:
" I was reporting facts given to me by a group of people. Now if you have problem with that then attack the facts not my name Almighty Ashu Dai."
Your point is well taken.
Bur let's look at this way: You must have noticed that whenever I give out
certain information in public, I also let people know about my sources.
I use real names of my sources; I use credible links that you can also visit,
and so on and on.
Doing this is the ONLY way one can build credibility about one's postings
on the Web, and this is what I, as a visitor, would like to do
here: build credibility.
And I would urge others to build credibility too.
You said: "I was reporting facts given to me by a group of people."
That's fine.
But the question is: Are these people credible, reliable, fair, impartial source of info? If so, let's hear their names in public, shall we?
After all, you will agree that there is NOTHING shameful about standing behind the truths (aka facts) in public, right?
If so, what are the verifiable names of your sources?
Let us hear.
If you can't publish their names in public, then, Manus bhai, you should accept that what you have are NOT verifiable facts, but pieces of gossips, gossips and gossips or lies , lies and lies.
And, hey, reporting gossip or lies is fine too.
But just be honest and say: Here are some pieces of gossip or pieces of UNVERIFIED truth I have heard about you.
This way, you maintain your honesty and you don't try to pass those stuff off
as facts.
If you care about the truth, you should have the couage to ask me directly:
I have heard this and this about you. Is this true?
And I can say, WITHOUT fudging my answers, what the truth is, and give
you VERIFIABLE evidence.
I can do that.
But can you do the same?
I hope, as your dai, I have made this distinction between gossips and facts
clear to you.
Finally, let it be said that just as you wouldn't ask Sadaam Hussein what he thinks of the USA and then publicly report Sadaam Hussein's statements as FACTS about America, there are some people you wouldn't ask about me because -- well, no matter hw much gloss they put on ther personalities -- they are simply NOT credible.
They know this, and that is one reason why they can NEVER confront me
directly with truth and evidence.
As an ancient Chinese saying goes: beware of a man with no enemies, for s/he is not living an authentic life.
Have a good day, Manus bhai.
oohi
ashu dai
ktm, nepal
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| dasein |
Posted
on 22-Mar-02 09:19 PM
>Oh yeah Mr Da Sein,
> Ooooh I
>really really did not know that all my life
>I had find a IDLE smartass like you to point
>it out. thanks
My pleasure mr tonto, but don't make it a habbit of poking your nose into other people's (even if it's Ashu) privates! ( meant affairs)
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| uks |
Posted
on 22-Mar-02 09:27 PM
I don't see any reason why Ashu had to go that far with respect to Manus. I don't think there was any reason to be offended. Unless they have personal enmity.....
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| arnico |
Posted
on 22-Mar-02 11:54 PM
>are frolicking in the beaches of Costa Rica
>with unidentifiable representatives of the
>other sex :)
>
UNIDENTIFIABLE? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
I am only hanging out with friends :)
...and I am not on the beach... we are up at about
1100 meters, at the Costa Rica Marriott and at INCAE,
a Latin American business school.
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| arnico |
Posted
on 22-Mar-02 11:57 PM
oops, that reply was to go to Paschim by e-mail... not trying to bore anyone else here with details...
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| ashu |
Posted
on 23-Mar-02 06:30 AM
UKS,
Your point is well taken too.
It's only in an OPEN, FREE, EXCHANGE-friendly FORUM like this, where, with a
real name and a verifiable address, one can go on to expound one's philosophy (shaped, of course, after some usual lessons that life teaches all of us!) about how the truth can be determined --
NOT by one-sided versions of events or by one-sided judgements of other
people, but --
by with continuous CROSS-CHECKING of information with various different sources, including the people in question.
This was the idea I was trying to convey to Manus Bhai. He is free to ignore it,
of course, and that's fine.
oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
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| An Indun Poet |
Posted
on 23-Mar-02 07:26 PM
Now we know An Indun Poet is not much of a lier.
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| testing |
Posted
on 24-Mar-02 12:32 PM
sorry for the test
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| Manus |
Posted
on 27-Mar-02 12:05 PM
Ashu Dai,
What is a credible source ? You seem to have the assumption that only your sources are credible others are not. Look at Watergate washington Post still has not revealed their sources(DEEP THROAT) but that does not mean that they are not credible. I would like to reflect on your statement" Are they credible, fair, reliable, impartial lets get their names in public." Yes I think they are all of the above, they all hold highly respectable positions in various sectors.
Now the point comes to people saying things about you(negative), you always seem to regard them as not credible sources. I have a problem with that because I know I have made mistakes in the past that I am not proud of. I would not launder mine or anyone else's dirt in public. But You chose to go public, now every Tom, Dick & Harry knows about what happened. I am not saying that you have to defend yourself. But please do not say he is not credible or she is not credible because you don't even know who these people are. There are people here who come and post info from all over the world. Now I am not going to ask each and everyone of them who their sources are everytime they post something(like asking their credentials like MD or PHD or whatever) . That is just ridiculous(also called descrimination).
I would also like to know what a verified fact is. In this virtual world there is no such thing as a verified fact. Its all he said she said. Under those assumed ID's you could be anyone. Am I really talking to Ashu Dai or someone with his assumed name, I don't know. I think its useless to ask for clarification when you don't even know who you're talking to.
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| Suna |
Posted
on 27-Mar-02 12:49 PM
And to drive the point home, all that went on in the (not so long ago) past, confirms even more and more why people should not disclose themselves if they choose not to.
Manus, your points were well stated and I, for one, can say that you spoke for a lot of others.
Credible sources, uncredible sources, you should react this way, you were not right to react that way. .. and so on and so forth uffffffffffffff. Unsolicited advices.
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