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| Nepe |
Posted
on 03-May-02 06:18 PM
Here is the complete ghazal 'Pyala bharthe...'
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Pyala bharthe timtra haat ma piudai thiye
kebal tyahi ek raat ma jiudai thiye
Nidayeko thani sustari aaee, mero
aankha chumda timile ma biujhai thiye
Ko salkadaina timra ushna oth.haru ma
timi aago jhai thiyeo, ma ghiu jhai thiye
Bihan mero chihan lee aaundai thiyo
raat fatna fatna khojthyo, ma siudai thiye
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For those who would like to read it using Nepali font:
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| Thedog |
Posted
on 03-May-02 06:22 PM
too sexy!!!:)
< timi aago jhai thiyeo, ma ghiu jhai thiye >>
...angelina jolie got da best damn lips..nice job nepe.
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| badmas |
Posted
on 03-May-02 07:15 PM
Hey nepe why don't you type it in word using nepali font and paste it here. Nepali kabita nepali ma padna pauda momo bhanda mitho huncha ke lata.
Mayalooooooooooooo
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| NK |
Posted
on 03-May-02 08:38 PM
Are gazals supposed to be love poems? Why are they always drenched in such a sentimentality? Why are they always about betrayal and unfullfilled love? Nepe, I like it but just wonderin'.
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| Paschim |
Posted
on 03-May-02 09:20 PM
Kabi-ji Nepe, I loved it. Except the issue of raj-tantra, we really are on the same boat. Kaamuk chha, mitho chha, yo ghazal. But please change that 6th line. As Thebog hinted, the 'taste' is incongruent with the rest of the verse.
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| diwas k |
Posted
on 03-May-02 09:49 PM
Nepe ko sammaan ma,
Here is the ghazal, Nepali ma.. if having difficulty, locate and download kantipur font...
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/ft kmf6\g kmf6\g vf]HYof], d l;pb} lyP+
-nepe
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| diwas k |
Posted
on 03-May-02 09:56 PM
Not sure if nepe intended "hiu" instead of "ghui in the previous, but here is with "ghiu"... oh the Butwal ghiu....
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| 13-thum |
Posted
on 04-May-02 12:45 AM
Awesome, Nepalese Poem in Neplaese Language. Can you continue this trend and have more Nepalese Poem in Nepalese Language.
Where is Gokul these days. I am looking forward to his poem after Mero Desh.
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| Nepe |
Posted
on 05-May-02 03:00 PM
First of all, diwas Kji, thank you very much for displaying the ghazal in Nepali font. I appreciate it. That 'hiu' or 'ghiu' both work fine. But I am inclined to accept Paschim’s honest advice to remove that particular shlok.
NK, thank you for the compliment you gave me in your own thread. I am honored. The question you raised about Ghazals is valid. I ask these questions myself. Like you seems to be suggesting I too think Ghazals or any bidha of sahitya (I doubt if mainstream Ghazals can claim the status of sahitya, though) for that matter should not limit itself to a particular theme. However, as you would agree, the depth and thoughtfulness in expression but not the theme itself should determine it’s literary character. That particular shlok Thedog picked on with friendly fondness and Paschim suggested to remove is, for example, is shallow and therefore lacks such a character.
I haven’t written any, but there are plenty (not really) modern lirerary ghazals in Nepali. Paschim gives me a hunch that he can produce a list of references to that.
The type of ghazal I like most are those which can talk about modern time without abandoning classical ghazalic language. Here is my favorite:
Aba ke dulchhau haawaa ho phoolbaari maa
Jaba Gulaf badaliye attar ko byaapaari maa
Paschim, to my joy to hear your kind word and of course your honest advice. Delighted to hear you saying we are on the same boat. I guess so. Allright Rajtantra is between us. But is it less that we have a common destination ? Ani yo boat ra destination ko prasanga ma euta shlok yaad aayo. It’s for you. Just imagine that it’s not from me, but from a sweet republican Urbashi between 22 to 27 who calls you at a lonesome night in a mellifluous voice....
Pugchhau ki ke thaahaa, haami aafnaa tungaa haru maa
Aaoo chadha nisangkoch meraa oth kaa dungaa haru maa
(I hope Biswoji does not come here to warn you that you have been being again lured by republicans !)
13-thum, thank you for liking it. I too miss Gokulji. Hope he comes with the same kind of touching poems.
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| HahooGuru |
Posted
on 05-May-02 06:51 PM
To NK's wonder why always unfufilled love,
I guess its because philosopher burn when their love turns
out to be miserable, "unfulfilled love". Those who have
fulfilled love, they don't have time to be philosopher . . . .
ki kaso ho. As peoples say, if you get your good spouse
you will have good life, but, if you could not get a good
spouse (opponent?) , you turn out to be a good philosopher.
So, Nepe , Paschim ... are great philosophers, and it seems
bandhu harule pyaar, mohabbat , maya ... bata nachahada
nachahadai pani dherai nai tadha banai diyejasto chha, and they
are trying to find the reason why they could not have a
"FULFILLED LOVE". I am afraid they will be a common man
again if they get a good wife, these Gazhal, Muktak
and ... philosophy will turn out to be historic in their life.
I wish I can read their philosophies, but, it will not happen
looking at the world trend.
hGxP
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| Paschim |
Posted
on 05-May-02 08:07 PM
Nepe, thanks!
But a query: a "republican" Urvasi. Does such a thing exist? Isn't it an oxymoron of sorts, that you can never have Urvasi who's a republican?
I thought MANY pretty, graceful girls - Urvasis - are feudal fascists - mean and brutal - keen to preserve the old ways, order (monarchy) when it comes to romance :)
Ma ekdam kamalo, warm, ra sambedanshil manchhe bhayera maatra yesto faida uthayeka ta pakkai hoinan...
Just joking. Will have to respond later to that thread on Politics and Hope. Some good points there...
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| NK |
Posted
on 06-May-02 08:32 AM
All these talks of unfulfilled love made me write this poem.
Elizabeth Has Some Questions
When I charred my body with a big ball of fire
Did you rush to put out, my dear?
When I lay in that white bed , water dripping in my vein,
Did you push away strands of hair off my face?
Did you pray? Did you shake with fear?
Did you hold my blackened hand and put it against your lips?
Did any tear flow? Did your lips quiver?
Are you going to put a white Lily,
On top of the mound when I am gone?
And, let a slow sigh of relief?
Will you look back? Or, will you look ahead?
Did you hear that phone ringing the other night?
Were the hands too busy to pick it up?
Please, let’s not make this a trip to
An abyss of guilt,
But you see, I have some questions:
Why did not you? What made you not to?
Will you cry my dear?
I am wondering,
My love, Will our paths cross again?
Do you believe in afterlife? Will you then
Hold my hands once again,
And bless me with your embrace?
Are you going to put a whit Lily
On top of the mound when I am gone,
And, let a slow sigh of relief?
Will you look back, Or, will you look ahead?
NK
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| HahooGuru |
Posted
on 06-May-02 06:21 PM
I think the latest piece of NK, is great and
those unfulfilled love based poet must try to
understand the questions probably raised by your
opponents before she abandoned you.
HG
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| porky |
Posted
on 07-May-02 10:23 AM
NK ji,
'twas a delight to read your poem...simple yet prolific!
your 'lily on the mound' totally blew this oinky heart of mine! ...nifty choice of words!
keep it up!
oink oink! :))
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| Nepe |
Posted
on 07-May-02 10:52 AM
Are you going to put a white Lily,
On top of the mound when I am gone?
Amazingly beautiful, smooth and stunning !
NK Bahini,
(may I call you bahini)
Well obviously I have my biases in poetry. So I don’t mean to say other poems of your are not so (they are of superb quality), but this one is awesome. You won my heart.
I want to compare it with earlier works of my favorite writer Parijat. Same amazingly beautiful style, same woe and anguish, misery and sorrow put in a way you want to read again and again, like you play your favorite music day and night. Parijat lost most of that charm after she molded herself into so called progressive writer. I have a great respect for her contribution to promote woman’s right and fight against oppressive regime. But I can not help being sorry that we lost earlier signature of amazing Parijat.
NK bahini, no mother needs advice on what to think about her children. You are a great mother. So I have no advice for you on your literary chidren. But I think sometimes it is not the quality of the work that matters but which audience you are communicating to or how directly you are talking to that audience through your poetry. Last two poems of yours, although you think they are not your best, are good because they talk to us, about us, about our woes. It does not matter how trivial they are. What matters is that they are ours. You gave voice to our voiceless anguish, you revealed grace of our trivial misery, you helped us to trust that every beat of heart counts. Your poetry may be so so for you, but they are wonderful for us.
Paschim,
About your doubt about the existence of republican Urbashis, I think this is another misgivings about republicans. Learned people say there is a positive relation between self confidence and romance. I think repubicans, in comrarison to monarchists, are more confident people. Because a person who is not sure about his/her belief can never never be a republican. But such person can comfortably be a monarchist. (I am not saying that a confident person can not be a monarchist !). Now you do the math. Unless you prefer a Tilottama who is not sure about intimate things !
GuruDev,
Guru ko previous posting ma gurule mero barema lagaunu bhayeko anuman jhandai jhandai satya ho. Tara aru pani thuprai kura bhaye jindagima, kunai kunai pidadayak, kunai kunai samjhauta layak. Tara pirka bhanda achano badhi bhabuk ra sambedanshil hunchha bhanne GuruDev ko ashaya chaai purapur satyatathya ho.
(Personal note: I will be out of the town from tomorrow to the weekend. See you all after then)
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| Paschim |
Posted
on 07-May-02 08:24 PM
NK, this is beautiful too. Very moving. And I think I understood it!
Alas, this sounds like an offshoot of a former union that was at a point "truly, madly, deeply" romantic. I wish my "thingy" with her was this profound :)
Received one of those life-improving tips on junk e-mail the other day. Two tips that caught my eye, i) Fall in love madly at least once in your life, ii) Trust God, but lock your car.
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| NK |
Posted
on 08-May-02 09:39 AM
My heartfelt gratitude to you all. I think Parijat may have been squirming in her grave so to speak, having been compared to me! Nepe (daju), I would like to say something about arts for arts sake or arts as to please. Maybe some other time. In the best possible world I would like to write for the love of writing. A nd also I do understand the importance of having an audience. I think if your creation is worthy, if not now, it will be recognized even centuries later. Again, thank you Porky [oink oink :)], Hahooguriji, Pashcim, and of course Nepe daju for your encouraging words.
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| Brook |
Posted
on 10-May-02 12:58 AM
I tried writing a song once. Only got as far as the first paragraph though. Since it's been languishing in neglect for almost two years now, I think I am going to give it some light.
So, here goes,
adhuraa-aa tee raatka
maun pal haru
aankha timra,
kesh,
tee haat-haru.
samjhana banera chhaunchhan,
aanshu banera jharchhan
yaad haru.
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| HahooGuru |
Posted
on 10-May-02 01:55 AM
Another unfulfilled love. I join NK, we want to see fulfilled love.
So, that we can appreciate whe we have at the moment,
and not we regret on what we had on the past. I want to feel
opon what I own today. Today is always great day for me.
Present is great gift to us. Lets appreciate present day too,
not only past-things.
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