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Sajha.com loosing its charm?

   1. Too much flashing banner ads. 2. Dis 04-May-02 hmmm....
     Mr. Hmmm Do you think Sajha.com has a 04-May-02 Shanti
       hmm, frankly there have been some quali 04-May-02 uks
         hmmm.. Thanks for putting me in the l 04-May-02 Biswo
           Hmmm... What do you want from me, bl 04-May-02 NK
             It is interesting that the same person H 05-May-02 Observer Immaculate
               Ok, let me explain. Yes I do like it th 05-May-02 hmmm....
                 Mr. Hmmm In your first posting, you s 05-May-02 Shanti
                   Let me clarify to Dhukuti.com personnel 05-May-02 hmmm....
                     It gets very redundant, boring and just 05-May-02 Observer Immaculate
                       Oh you shut up, For Christs Shake! hm 05-May-02 hmmm....
                         Hmmm, In another thread "Best site fo 05-May-02 Shanti
                           some body just emailed me this thread an 05-May-02 baljoshi
                             Most of you have seen that guy "jared" i 05-May-02 genX
                               Bal K joshi, Hoga Foshi What are you 05-May-02 Newar
                                 This ID 70285839 so called Newar, sounds 06-May-02 Hercules
                                   Boy its tough when you need to explain e 06-May-02 hmmm....
                                     Ok! Enuf! For a change listen to Me 06-May-02 NK
                                       My god NK ... you listen to Handel ?!! 06-May-02 Messiah?
And, why not? Dont' you????bgv 07-May-02 NK
   And, why not? Don't you???????? 07-May-02 NK
     No ... 07-May-02 Messiah
       I for one do not think the site has lost 07-May-02 koko
         That goes for you too, Koko. Loosen up 07-May-02 NK
           NK ... while you are generally amusing, 07-May-02 Messiah
             Whatever San says-- but due to the skunk 07-May-02 hmmm....
               Dear Hmmmmm, I am not sure I understa 07-May-02 san
                 San Wrote: About Rabindra Mishra - th 07-May-02 Paschim
                   Hmmm wrote: "Maybe sajha.com is getti 08-May-02 ashu
                     >But I also know that posting stuff on t 08-May-02 Biswo
                       Oh, well... (that is for messiah, not Ha 08-May-02 NK


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hmmm.... Posted on 04-May-02 05:49 PM

1. Too much flashing banner ads.
2. Discussions limited to pathetic Ethnic degradation.
3. Sajha.com turning into a mere commercial site. Sajha.com loosing its "sajha" nature.
4. Lack of input from "hastis" like Hahoo Guru, Ashu, NK, Bishwo, Paschim, Nepe in the recent weeks.
5. I see this site to be no different than others Nepali sites. I just hope it does not go down like sukulgunda.com

A Sajha.com well-wisher.
Shanti Posted on 04-May-02 06:35 PM

Mr. Hmmm

Do you think Sajha.com has a Dollar Tree?

What else do you want free?
uks Posted on 04-May-02 06:58 PM

hmm, frankly there have been some quality discussions lately. if you do not believe look at some of the recent postings by the very "hastis" you mention!
Biswo Posted on 04-May-02 08:42 PM

hmmm..

Thanks for putting me in the list. I certainly do miss postings of a lot of our
contributors, some of whom you mentioned in your list. But I don't think sajha.com
has lost its charm. Its number of visitors has increased, so has the number of
postings.

I have also enjoyed your image uploads too.
NK Posted on 04-May-02 08:51 PM

Hmmm...

What do you want from me, blood? (Ok , only half kidding)

I have posted a poem just recently. You are the one who is quiet. Agreed, I have not said anything on 'Politics and Hope,' but sometimes it is better to be quiet than make a fool of yourself. How come you have not said anything there either?????????? huh???[ :) :) :) :) ]

There! Now, you cannot accuse me one of the 'hastis" from your list, not posting stuff!
Observer Immaculate Posted on 05-May-02 01:39 AM

It is interesting that the same person HMMM.... who started this thread responded to another thread saying that "thamel.com" is the best gift site...

now, doesn't Thamel.com have flashing banner ads?
isn't thamel.com a purely commercial site?

He says he hopes to see more sites open and start having price wars, so why does he seem to have complaints when sajha.com starts a gift section? Why does he think Thamel.com is the 'best' gift site, while sajha.com is losing it's charm?

his generalizations regarding discussions being limited to pathetic discussions and lack of input from 'hastis' is baseless since most of the posters he mentioned are still posting very regularly, and there's been more diversity in the topics posted recently.

which that leads me to wonder if hmmm is just jealous because of sajha.com's success and its ecommerce venture.

For myself sajha.com has never ceased to keep me entertained, keep up the good work! I think the introduction of the gift section was long overdue as far as service rendered to the general visitors is concerned. This could be a mutually benefitial partnership for the site visitors as well as sajha.com itself.
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Posted by hmmm....
ID: 99228779 Posted on 05-04-02 5:40 PM Reply | Notify Me
I think Thamel.com is the best gift site. Khasi to flowers...... everything is there. Well, they are very innovative, and service is quite good (could be better).

Haven't bought anything from Munchahouse or Dhukuti.com yet, but I am sure they are very good as well.

However, all of them are not cheap. They think we have $$s so they charges us 100% more than the market value. I hope more sites open and we start having price wars...

don't you think, hmmm....
hmmm.... Posted on 05-May-02 08:24 AM

Ok, let me explain. Yes I do like it there to be more gift sites. The only reason I said Thamel.com is the best "gift" site is because it has complete dedicaiton to be a fully commercial site. I was quite satisfied by their service and their innovative ways. I have bought stuff for myself from Dhukuti.com and was quite satisfied as well. I have not used munchahouse.com but had e-mailed them for certain products and they were very responsive.

I think with all the banner ads as well as other banners and scrolling marquee, sajha.com is loosing its austhetics. And since our "hastis" have slowly retreated-- prime example: Hahoo Guru and Ashu and few others, newer faces have not been either able to make arguments with same fierceness or Sajha.com is not attracting the cream. You can see the new disuccions and make judgement for yourself.

NK, If I was a vampire, it would be a different story. I am glad you are still alive, the only real, poetic, female soul of sajha.com.

Bishwo, I enjoy your articulate postings as well, but I think you try a little hard with your choice of words (my personal opinion), which by the way makes it a little difficult for layperson like me to understand completely-- the dictionary.com is a great help. However, it gives opportunity to expand my vocabulary as well.

Sajha.com- I think it can do better.
Shanti Posted on 05-May-02 08:45 AM

Mr. Hmmm

In your first posting, you said that you have not bought anything from Munchahouse.com and Dhukuti..com yet. Thamel.com is best.

Later you said you have bought from Dhukuti.com also and they're good too. How do you explain the two conflicting posting.

Are you trying to promote Thamel.com or what? I don't understand the motive of your this posting. If you're trying to promote Thamel.com why don't you just advertise directly like others have done.
hmmm.... Posted on 05-May-02 09:16 AM

Let me clarify to Dhukuti.com personnel here :)

I have never bought gifts to Nepal at Dhukuti.com. I have bought few CD's and some cards from Dhukuti.com. Although there is not much to talk about the cards, CD's were good, they arrived on time and was satisfied.

Well, you are really giving me a lot of opportunity to advertize my liking of Thamel.com, so let me explain again why I like Thamel.com to gifts to Nepal:

1. They provided voice confirmation to products I sent to my granny far away from Kathmandu.
2. When I called my granny, she was more than enthrilled by the gift (which might have very little to do with Thamel.com), however, it reached on time and the bottom line is my granny was happy.

I think I have promoted enough of Thamel.com. But let me say again, I did feel thta I overpayed for the gifts. I think with limited gifting sites right now, I did not have much choice. But in the coming days with a lot of gifting sites, there will be more competition and customers will have better choice.

So which part you did not understand?
Observer Immaculate Posted on 05-May-02 12:11 PM

It gets very redundant, boring and just plain sad when people start repeating themselves like parrots. While Shanti seems to have NO ulterior motives besides appreciating the site she posts in, hmmm on the other hand seems to have ulterior motives and No appreciation for the site that he's shamelessly advertising in.

I think it's shameful to shit on the same plate you eat in.

Amen
hmmm.... Posted on 05-May-02 02:47 PM

Oh you shut up, For Christs Shake!

hmmm....
Shanti Posted on 05-May-02 09:39 PM

Hmmm,

In another thread "Best site for gift to Nepal", you said you own the Thamel.com site. In this thread you said, you bought from Thamel.com site and you like their service.

What I don't understand is why do you have to buy yourself from your site?
Question to you.

If you have to advertise, just come and post your message as from Thamel.com for example we have best sevice or something like that. Do not try to confuse people like you're a consumer.

I have nothing against you or Thamel.com. I just couldn't resist your conflicting posting. In one thread you say you own Thamel.com in another you buy from Thamel.com and like the service.

Good luck with your Khasi business.

In fact I really appreciate all the nepali enterprenuers. This is one way to help people in Nepal and our country.

Our number one Tourism business has gone down almost null. Carpet industry is also same. We need help Nepal and Nepalese economy by doing business ourselves.
baljoshi Posted on 05-May-02 10:08 PM

some body just emailed me this thread and I want to clearify that hmmm does not represent anyone from our company thamel.com. He seems like one of our proud customers who have helped us grow.

Self promotion is something my company does not promote. I don't think there is anything wrong with one of our customers talking about our site. Referral after all is the best way to build customer base Pls don't assume that the person talking about the site represents the company. . In our company policy with our employees it is clearly mentioned that self promotion on Nepali websites can result in termination since it destroys our brand!

Shanti thank you for you appreciation of Nepali Entreprenuers who are utilizing technology to develop sustainable businesses that is making a difference in some ways. Ex patriate contribution to Nepal is higher than any other industry.

In hmmm's comment pls notice he said "I own thamel.com then with NOOOOT! Which means he is joking. "

If you have any questions or comments pls contact me directly!

Bal K Joshi
thamel.com
genX Posted on 05-May-02 10:16 PM

Most of you have seen that guy "jared" in Subway commericals. May be Thamel.com will use hmm for tiier advertisement;))...And free supplies of nepali CDs for a year...:)
Newar Posted on 05-May-02 11:44 PM

Bal K joshi, Hoga Foshi

What are you talking about? All these posting is just a "Natak" of so called sites like thamel.com,dhukuti.com,munchhouse.com

Newar
Hercules Posted on 06-May-02 10:12 AM

This ID 70285839 so called Newar, sounds like he's a sick guy. What's not Natak for you? May be dish washing in Indian Restaurant is not Natak for you then.
hmmm.... Posted on 06-May-02 11:17 AM

Boy its tough when you need to explain everything.

A simple sarcastic sentence like this

"I own Thamel.com --- NOT!!!!"

can not be understood.

Can you not read or you just don't want to understand.

I wish I owned Thamel.com with the lumps of money they are making. A freaking cake for $25 (that's like Rs. 2000 almost).

And didn't the dude who owns the joint explain things for you.

Here is a thought for your M'am:
You can wake up a person when the person is asleep, but a person who is faking their sleep, you can't wake them up.

hmmm....
NK Posted on 06-May-02 11:34 AM

Ok! Enuf!

For a change listen to Messiah by Handel. It is beautiful!
Messiah? Posted on 06-May-02 10:50 PM

My god NK ... you listen to Handel ?!!
NK Posted on 07-May-02 09:37 AM

And, why not? Dont' you????bgv
NK Posted on 07-May-02 09:38 AM

And, why not? Don't you????????
Messiah Posted on 07-May-02 10:36 AM

No ...
koko Posted on 07-May-02 12:31 PM

I for one do not think the site has lost its charm one bit. Yes people were here, are here, and will be here. As they say variety is the spice of life. I f you look at news there are different types of news from TIME, Newsweek, entertainment weekly to national enquirer. Its the same here. But all are under one banner. Its even better. Every averge Joe can say whatever he or she wants. It might not appeal to High intellects here what average Joe has to say but Hey thats life. They are also part of our society like it or not.
NK calls these people Skunks or whatever you want to call them. You will have to listen to them at one time time or another. You cannot ighnore them. If you keep ignoring them then you will have to deal with an uprising in the near future because educated people like us choose to ignore them. There are a lot of things posted in this site I don't approve of. But thats life man, everything will not always be ok. Shit happens..
So why don't you all shut the hell up and take it as a man.
NK Posted on 07-May-02 03:36 PM

That goes for you too, Koko. Loosen up will you for Pete's sake?

say happy b'day to Brahms btw, today is his birthday.
Messiah Posted on 07-May-02 05:16 PM

NK ... while you are generally amusing, do you realize that you talk nonsense sometimes?
hmmm.... Posted on 07-May-02 06:40 PM

Whatever San says-- but due to the skunks lot of people (who most of the time smell good) refrain from posting here.

Whenever I was yapping with girls, I used to mention this site-- and that used to be a plus point. Nowadays, I say if someone says did you read what hmmm.... wrote today on GBNC, I act as if its not me and my reply is-- Oh really, I haven't been to GBNC in a long while.

Maybe sajha.com is getting more visitors, but you can see its not meant for everyone. Poor Ashu, he tried so hard to bring people to Sajha.com and it was probably the most humiliating experience for few of the 'genuinely proffessional' people he bought here.

Look at Rabindra Mishra, the charismatic BBC (Nepali) radio anchor/correspondent-- he passes his message through Paschim-- wonder why??

My major point is-- sajha.com is turning into other similar websites-- nepalhomepage.com or e-nepal.com.

I have no complains about Sajha.com making money through the leverage of this site, but I think the presentation could be better.

Well I really can't whine that much. I practically am on sajha.com 24/7.
san Posted on 07-May-02 07:20 PM

Dear Hmmmmm,

I am not sure I understand what you are dissatisfied with.

Can you please list what you are dissappointed with, and it would be helpful if you can list the solutions to these complaints. From my point of view you have to tell me exactly what bothers you so that I can try to make it more pleasant for you.

Your reference to Ashu is unclear, because Ashu is a proponent of 'free speech' a supporter of 'no-bars-discussions' and who disagrees with 'censorship'. Although I am one of his number one fans, I disagree in a no-bars discussions with NO censorship. I feel that each regular poster has a right to be protected from baseless anonymous personal attacks, hence censorship is done on these kinds of postings. I digress, but please do explain what you mean.

About Rabindra Mishra - the charismatic BBC anchor passing messages thru Paschim, there could be a hundres reasons why. Maybe Paschim can shed light on this.

You seem to think that sajha.com is turning into other similar websites... How? Please explain. And I am not sure what is wrong with the other websites. In fact I go to these sites frequently and I never thought there was something wrong with them - http://www.nepalhomepage.com and http://www.e-nepal.com

Please do explain how the presentation could be better.

I normally wouldn't reply to one or two postings expressing displeasure, but since you have posted quite a few messages expressing your dissatisfaction, I am writing so that maybe I can do something about it with your help.

Thank you and Best Regards,
San
PS: I do realize that it is not possible to please everyone but there's no harm done trying.
Paschim Posted on 07-May-02 08:01 PM

San Wrote:

About Rabindra Mishra - the charismatic BBC anchor passing messages thru Paschim, there could be a hundres reasons why. Maybe Paschim can shed light on this.

------

NEVER has Rabindra Mishra posted messages on this board through me. Two sets of comments attributed to him on "Politics and Hope" were lifted out of his private e-mails to me. They were done so without his permission and knowledge the first time and I made that clear giving two reasons why I thought that was justified. I informed him of my action ex-post. If Mishra is/was unhappy with that, his displeasure would be communicated to me privately as it was as issue of trust and confidence between us. The second sets of comments were also contents of his follow up email to me on comments I'd sent him. I made the decision to post them judging the public relevance of those private remarks. Here too I exercised my judgment on my own.

Mr. Mishra is an irregular visitor of this site and is fully capable of posting messages here himself. He did so most recently in April.
ashu Posted on 08-May-02 12:59 AM

Hmmm wrote:

"Maybe sajha.com is getting more visitors, but you can see its not meant for everyone. Poor Ashu, he tried so hard to bring people to Sajha.com and it was probably the most humiliating experience for few of the 'genuinely proffessional' people he bought here. "


**********

Hmmm,

I am surprised to read the above.

As one of the hundreds of unique visitors here, I am proud to be associated
with sajha.com. And, time-permitting, will promote this site wherever I go.

But I also know that posting stuff on the Net -- no matter how many requests one makes to other so-called professional people -- is simply NOT everyone's cup of chiya in Nepal and among Nepali communities for a variety of reasons, and that's perfectly fine.

What's so "humiliating" about any of that?

Posting good stuff on the Net -- like learning to enjoy 'pate de foie gras' or appreciating fine wines -- is an ACQUIRED habit, and, hey, it takes time
for most of us Nepalis to get into the posting "good stuff" habit, and that's
fine.

That said, I, for one, remain grateful to sajha.com for allowing me to expand
my own personal and professional networks. I am sure others too have
benefitted similarly, and that's great.

Though, yes, due to increasing personal and professional responsibilities, I
can't spend as much time here as I wish. But I will continue to seek sajha.com's help in seeking help, advice, and even making new, new friends while retaining many old ones.

oohi
ashu
ktm,nepal
Biswo Posted on 08-May-02 08:20 AM

>But I also know that posting stuff on the Net -- no matter how many requests
>one makes to other so-called professional people -- is simply NOT everyone's cup
>of chiya in Nepal and among Nepali communities for a variety of reasons, and
>that's perfectly fine.

I agree with you, Ashu.

There can be alot of reason for this. Some have problem with web. Some are
slow in typing. It seems to be a matter of confidence also. A lot of people have
risk-free image as experts, which they don't wanna lose by interaction with others.
Sajha.com allowed us to see very clearly people like Mr Milan who talked
about human right situation in Nepal, but managed to pursuade people that he
was just a charlaton.

In an easy culture of fame in KTM,(this doesn't include those hardworking honest
people of KTM who by the way are probably in more than majority, but there is
certainly a minority of experts who are not experts, who are just charlatons),
people more and more feel comfortable in forming elitist clique, and living
comfortably in cocoon rather than letting themselves tested by mass.
NK Posted on 08-May-02 09:40 AM

Oh, well... (that is for messiah, not Handel's though)