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| kale dai |
Posted
on 14-May-02 04:54 PM
I'm going to tell you some stories that happened in my village (late 2030's BS), which is located in the eastern hills of Nepal. One untouchable teenage girl got pregnant by an upper caste unmarried man in his mid 20's. Obviously the man's family was richer, prestigious, and well connected in our community. The news spread in our village like fire in matter of hours. The girl was seven-months pregnant and God knows how she managed to hide it from others until then.
Within couple of days, a meeting was called to settle the case. Mukhiya, majiya, master, sahu, mahajan, pancha-bhaladmi, and all sorts of people were invited so that no one objects their decision later on. With the help of some gaun.ka legal advisors, parents managed to flee the boy from the village. Almost all voiced against the girl saying that she was characterless and 'ganhayeko sino' who should be thrown out of village. And they did it. They found a guy in his early 40's with 6 kids whose wife was swept away by a river earlier year.
The man confessed that the girl is bearing his child and the girl agreed. Lekhandas wrote and witnesses signed and community board is safe legally. I'm not sure how hard they worked to convince the girl behind the scene. She along with her parents was crying all the time. Others were yelling at them saying that it is the best solution to save community ko naak. The poor parents had no choice but to accept the decision of the community board. The board decided to give the man Rs. 1,000 to take care of the girl and to buy her some cloths. Few people opposed it from the beginning who blamed the boy for his deeds. They made the boy's parents pay Rs. 4,000 instead of just Rs. 1,000. Those who opposed were criticized for exploiting the girl and were labeled as communists. I have due respect for those who sided to provide better justice for the girl. The girl left her parents, friends, and village in tears and I never saw her come back again.
In another incident, a father was caught sexually abusing his 12-year-old daughter and the result was same. They shipped her to a different village to save his ass!
I'm not sure what I'm trying to pass to you guys from this story, but this is life in village. I'm sure there are worse stories throughout Nepal's 4000+ villages. Some people are more oppressed, unequally treated, others are more corrupt, and what not. Politicians are taking advantage of the situation, but none of them are working to improve the quality of life. We talk about patriotism, love to our country and these poor girls don't even have rights to go back to their village. Do we really understand all these things before we address unfair stories of our village? Should we kill these girls if they become Maoist to gain their equal rights? I'm sure Baburam has somewhat addressed this issue. Is he really concerned about these issues? Probably Yes. Is he only taking advantage of the situation? Most probably YES.
On another note, we've heard enough about priests sexually abusing children in the west. I've also heard some 'fathers' doing the same thing in Nepal. I thought it was joke, but not anymore. It's time to keep track of those suckers! Is there any organization in Nepal that is concerned about this?
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| id |
Posted
on 14-May-02 09:10 PM
go brother, lead the way! Nepal needs people like you.
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| suna |
Posted
on 15-May-02 12:26 PM
Kale Dai
Thanks for addressing this issue!
For long I have tried to muster up enough courage to say something about this whole "people's movement" in Nepal and I always backed off thinking I would be branded a communist.
Those case scenarios should be read meticulously and pondered over. Maybe they will give you an insight into why people are flocking towards these so-called-maoists!! Who can these poor girls turn to? or even poor people turn to? the police are corrupt, the army men are known to be wild (excuse my generalization) and the politicians in KTM (with educated people around) are corrupt, so can you even imagine what politicians in villages are like? Okay give and take a few that are faithful and act humanely!
People are only seeing what the maosists are up to in the name of People's rights (which I am totally against) but what went on for years when people could not voice their opinons??
Is it so difficult to understand why this movement has become rampant everywhere else except a few developed towns? But then, wasn't Padma Ratna from Kathmandu??
Maybe Baburam has hit upon a note that should have been hit long ago by the Panchas (oh wait, they were busy robbing the people right under their noses), the Congress (these were busy fighting amonst each other!).
And last but not the least, ever wonder why these "maosists" have suddenly become so noticeable and rampant and probably have more followers than we would like to discover in so short a time compared to how long the panchas were in power and the congress has been in power??
Food for your thoughts!
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| Bhenda |
Posted
on 15-May-02 12:52 PM
People usually like to ignore this serious problem maybe because it is too embarrasing to talk about, but lately I have been wondering if my little brother was molested too. He went to school in India and he started having lots of psychological problems and he got into drugs very young. My family is very simple and we had no knowledge of things like that, but it seems too late to ask him any questions regarging it because he is a young man and he might have more problems if we did..I feel kind of guilty because I being older should have been able to protect him but I had no knowledge about it myself till I was very old. I think we should talk to our kids about it, specially the ones who live in the boarding schools.
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| Namita-Sumita |
Posted
on 15-May-02 01:37 PM
Hi,
Regards to the victims Namita and Sumita,
Two girls were in vacation in Pokhara, they were raped, but there was not any invetigation and arrest regarding on the case of Namita-Sumita in Pokhara in 2036(?).
So, if there is hope for justice, why don't we support Prachanda and hiw followers?
Just a thought.........
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| Namita-Sumita |
Posted
on 15-May-02 01:38 PM
Hi,
Regards to the victims Namita and Sumita,
Two girls were in vacation in Pokhara, they were raped, but there was not any invetigation and arrests regarding on the case of "Namita-Sumita" in Pokhara in 2036(?).
So, if there is a hope for justice, why don't we support Prachanda and his followers?
Just a thought.........
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| huh |
Posted
on 15-May-02 01:49 PM
Alas !!!!!!!!!! person(..X..) who is believed to be guilty of namita and sunita rape/murder case was the main meditator between KING BIRENDRA AND CHIARMAN PRACHANDA which is also mentioned in maobadi statements. Have you read the articles wirtten by maobadi top leaders who wrote that we had "karygat yakata" with king birendra and were mediating through (...X...), But it was unaccpetable to the amrika,bharat and (..Y..) and girija gut, so darbar hatyakada is a big consipiracy ........
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| dead Namita And Sumita |
Posted
on 15-May-02 01:50 PM
Namita-Sumita,
You are a communist too...but they raped us in Panchayat time...there was no investigation because the janatas were nimukhas and the rapists were royalties. If the communists come to power it is going to happen the same like Panchayat, havent you read and heard about what happens in China...they have no freedom, they bulldoze people for speaking up.
What about those gals raped by some Maoists...
we are dead and forgotten...there was no justice for us...
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| huh |
Posted
on 15-May-02 01:53 PM
Alas !!!!!!!!!! person(..X..) who is believed to be guilty of namita and sunita rape/murder case was the main meditator between KING BIRENDRA AND CHIARMAN PRACHANDA which is also mentioned in maobadi statements. Have you read the articles wirtten by maobadi top leaders who wrote that we had "karygat yakata" with king birendra and were mediating through (...X...), But it was unaccpetable to the amrika,bharat and (..Y..) and girija gut, so darbar hatyakada is a big consipiracy ........
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| suna |
Posted
on 15-May-02 01:59 PM
Namita-Sunita
I do get the gist of your message but my message was that for unbeknownst to us, the privileged padhey-lekheyka sabai janney manis haru, the communists got through and are appealing to the general mass in the villages. If the communists were able to pull the country apart like this in the last few months or even a year, where the heck were the politicians of the panchas and the congress all these years??? How come they never even bothered to address the concerns of the public, the downtrodden and the poor? Well guess they were just too smug about their own comforts! And this certainly is a rude awakening to the people and more over to those smug politicians. Maybe it was inevitable. In any case, how long do you think the public would remain illerate and untouched by the media and the outside world?
Some more snacks for your thoughts :).
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| gaunle |
Posted
on 15-May-02 02:15 PM
Kale dai's story tells us that our people, system, community, culture, and all of us are corrupt. And that is the fact. May be some are less corrupt than others, but corrupt.
I've also heard rumors of St. Xavior's father molesting students some 10-12 years ago. We have to be very careful in a country like Nepal where culprits could easily get away with money and power. We need to watch boarding schools run by foreigners. It is hard to detect these people especially in our culture where we don't talk about sex openly in public.
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| namita-sumita |
Posted
on 15-May-02 03:00 PM
hey dead namita and sunita,
here is an answer for you. you can not simply blame any one else you are this and that. what clue do you have that you can say me maoist?
I do not blame you that you are the one the rapist and murderer. you could be if you had deserved for.
Namita-Sumita scandal was a serious one till now. How people had been wounded at that time you never know it and you never feel it.
Maoists are (whoever they are) not completely wrong and likewise they are not completely right either.
If you want justice, why don't you think of for and why don't you think of how to achieve it.
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| maobadi?? |
Posted
on 15-May-02 03:18 PM
The issue of Namita and Sunita is a sad one. This is a fact and we all know that.
There are incidents like this in the panchayat era and in the democracy era. There are number of eyewitness accounts of the horrifying acts including forceful sex and rape from maobadis.
In my opinion Namita/Sunita have been a wild card for the maobadis to talk about the monarchy and democracy.
Maobadi problem is a not a simple one to just say that are the reason of the current or the previous government. Maobadis want total control of the power. Total control!! Are maobadis are better?? If course not. If you still think that the issue of the people is not addressed and the baburam addressed it you are wrong. baburam knows how to manipulate the poor. Now baburam has the army of 5,000 hard-core guerrillas. Little bit of hope is enough for the uneducated poor to be the victims of baburam.
There is lot of problems in Nepal. Which country doesn't?? But baburam or the communism is not the answer for anything. This is another problem that is encircling Nepal.
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| dead Namita Sumita |
Posted
on 15-May-02 03:31 PM
Listen Namita-Sumita,
When Namita Sumita kanda happened I was a little gal, we always talked about that incident at home and how horrible our govt was for not punishing the rapists. I remember being hurt, I lost my trust for the Panchayat then and till now I preach against the Panchayati system and the royalties.
You mentioned why dont we support the maoists thats why I called you a Maoist. Maoists are rapists themselves, I dont think our country is going to be better off if those murderers rule.. it is going to be worse.
We janatas have to be strong and we should speak up for our rights thats the only way we are going to get justice...
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| id |
Posted
on 15-May-02 03:41 PM
would you people stop blaming the whole political systems just because of the rape cases! where do you think in the history rape has not taken place? which political system can promise to be completely rape-less? Why don't you realize that its not the political system but the perversity of the people that promotes rape? And the only way to counter it is to have strong law enforcements(no matter what the political system is). Go for law enforcements, and stop criticizing political systems on the basis of these rape cases.
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| huh |
Posted
on 15-May-02 09:10 PM
Pedophile sentenced to 8-year jail term (KOL Report )
KATHMANDU, May 16 - The Kathmandu District Court Thursday passed an 8 years jail sentence to a school principal convicting him of raping his 9-year old girl student.
The bench of judge Dr. Ananda Mohan Bhattarai passed the judgement in accordance with No. 3 of Chapter on Rape of National Code and Clause 49(2) of Children’s Act, 2048. The rapist Shri Upreti, 33, father of two children was principal of a school in Basundhara, Kathmandu where the two-grader victim was admitted in the school hostel four years ago.
The father of the victim, an Indian armyman resident of Dailekh district, had left the girl under the guardianship of her uncle. She used to visit her uncle and aunt on holidays and vacations. According to the source, the perpetrator had started abusing her on Poush of 2056 (some 17 months ago).
Once she had come to her uncle, she defied returning back to school saying, “ I will rather die than going to the school.” When persuaded, she explained the whole story how she was raped. She repeated the same contentions in the court too. She was rushed to the Thapathali hospital immediately after her statement. The hospital has also verified some evidences of rape. The accused who had accepted in the police custody, later denied the allegation at the court.
It is also known that the court had made the decision on the condition not to make it public considering the effects to be exerted to the girl. Concerned lawyers say it would be a perpetual harassment to the girl if such reports are carried on the media with her real name. The Children’s Act of Nepal also provides that such cases could be reported to media only on the consent of the official who has looked upon the case. (yo)
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| id |
Posted
on 16-May-02 01:33 AM
I was wondering what would be the best way to move on for the wife of the pedophile. Should she forgive her husband, accept it as her fate, and wait for him for eight years, or should she seek for a divorce?
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| ar |
Posted
on 16-May-02 11:37 AM
It is very sad when we hear about any kind of abuses and rapes. I heartily feel for these victims. But I truly think maoist or any kind of political parties are not the answer to the social issues we are facing. However education, realisation of social happenings and strict law enforcement is some of the answers. We have to appoint a trustful representative and pass a law. Also we cannot deny the issues like drug abuse, alcohol abuse, incest and rape which is happening on the streets as well as at home. With law and change of attitude we can achieve a better life. I would also like to quote that reality is far away from dreams and philosophies. What I mean is philosophy of democracy, maoism and perhaps panchayat system was good because it was a dream of some great thinker who dreamt keeping people on mind but as we humans have limited perception, these philosophies dont address everything we need. So keeping past, present and future, we have to revise laws, reforms etc. and change.
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